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	<title>Comments on: Certifiably Christian</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: fiddlejen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/29/certifiably-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-73592</link>
		<dc:creator>fiddlejen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh - stumbled across this blog whilst looking for something else.  (( I have no idea what your website is about - astronomy?  I&#039;d guess that from the title - but - your post is about an advertising ploy? ))

But anyway, I thought I&#039;d throw in my 2 cents, and tell you that it&#039;s pretty obvious to me what that &quot;certified Christian&quot; logo is referring to.

There&#039;s a very well-known, very heavily-marketed web-based singles-matching service.  (Yeah I could just say the name but I&#039;m not going to.)  You see their ads on TV all the time.  Also, they have ad banners on almost every Christian website.

Well, this particular .com started as a CHRistian dating service.  That&#039;s how they advertised themselves, and they got LOTS of free publicity from well-know Christian organizations.

But some time ago - perhaps a few months (?) before the date of your post - they decided that they No Longer wished to be considered a Christian service.  That they wished to DISsociate themselves from the well-known and well-respected groups who had given them so much free publicity.  That they were no longer Christian.  They sent this in letter to the organizations that had previously lauded them.  Which groups published the letter (&quot;with sadness&quot;) -- and left it at that.

So.  The people who heard this announcement on the radio - ONE TIME - know that ________.com is no longer a Christian Dating Service.  Everyone who missed the announcement, doesn&#039;t know that.  And if you google Christian Singles, you quickly encounter ________.com&#039;s banner ads.

In other words, ________.com is Very Well Known, and many Christians still believe that it&#039;s a christian dating service.  But it&#039;s not, by their own decision and announcement.

A number of people, such as myself, still feel rather miffed about this whole thing.  eH______.com used Christians as a niche market to grow, pretending to be a Christian business developed to help Christians, and then, once there were more profits to made elsewhere, publicly dumped us.

And, now, they still continue to advertise on Christian websites.  They&#039;ve dumped Christians, but still want business from those who will come to them just because they&#039;re supposedly a Christian group.

Given this situation, to me, &quot;Certified Christian&quot; makes perfect sense as a logo on a singles website.  They&#039;re saying, YES, we DO claim to be Christian.  We don&#039;t apologize for it, and we seek your business AS Christians, not as a group ashamed to name the name of Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh &#8211; stumbled across this blog whilst looking for something else.  (( I have no idea what your website is about &#8211; astronomy?  I&#8217;d guess that from the title &#8211; but &#8211; your post is about an advertising ploy? ))</p>
<p>But anyway, I thought I&#8217;d throw in my 2 cents, and tell you that it&#8217;s pretty obvious to me what that &#8220;certified Christian&#8221; logo is referring to.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a very well-known, very heavily-marketed web-based singles-matching service.  (Yeah I could just say the name but I&#8217;m not going to.)  You see their ads on TV all the time.  Also, they have ad banners on almost every Christian website.</p>
<p>Well, this particular .com started as a CHRistian dating service.  That&#8217;s how they advertised themselves, and they got LOTS of free publicity from well-know Christian organizations.</p>
<p>But some time ago &#8211; perhaps a few months (?) before the date of your post &#8211; they decided that they No Longer wished to be considered a Christian service.  That they wished to DISsociate themselves from the well-known and well-respected groups who had given them so much free publicity.  That they were no longer Christian.  They sent this in letter to the organizations that had previously lauded them.  Which groups published the letter (&#8221;with sadness&#8221;) &#8212; and left it at that.</p>
<p>So.  The people who heard this announcement on the radio &#8211; ONE TIME &#8211; know that ________.com is no longer a Christian Dating Service.  Everyone who missed the announcement, doesn&#8217;t know that.  And if you google Christian Singles, you quickly encounter ________.com&#8217;s banner ads.</p>
<p>In other words, ________.com is Very Well Known, and many Christians still believe that it&#8217;s a christian dating service.  But it&#8217;s not, by their own decision and announcement.</p>
<p>A number of people, such as myself, still feel rather miffed about this whole thing.  eH______.com used Christians as a niche market to grow, pretending to be a Christian business developed to help Christians, and then, once there were more profits to made elsewhere, publicly dumped us.</p>
<p>And, now, they still continue to advertise on Christian websites.  They&#8217;ve dumped Christians, but still want business from those who will come to them just because they&#8217;re supposedly a Christian group.</p>
<p>Given this situation, to me, &#8220;Certified Christian&#8221; makes perfect sense as a logo on a singles website.  They&#8217;re saying, YES, we DO claim to be Christian.  We don&#8217;t apologize for it, and we seek your business AS Christians, not as a group ashamed to name the name of Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/29/certifiably-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-73591</link>
		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lars Bruchmann writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;Following the bible is quite difficult, really. I’d have to wear only certain types of fabrics, grow a long beard, etc. Women have to have their heads covered. I’d have to stone adulterers.&lt;/i&gt;]]

How do you explain the fact that everyone who follows a Bible-based religion nowadays (Jews, Christians, Mormons, Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses, etc.) does not, in fact, stone adulterers?

Have you read the whole book?  All the way through?

Have you even read the legal section you&#039;re quoting?  Any capital crime required two eyewitnesses.  The Jews in first century Jerusalem felt that any Sanhedrin that executed a man more often than once in seventy years was a harsh and judgmental Sanhedrin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lars Bruchmann writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>Following the bible is quite difficult, really. I’d have to wear only certain types of fabrics, grow a long beard, etc. Women have to have their heads covered. I’d have to stone adulterers.</i>]]</p>
<p>How do you explain the fact that everyone who follows a Bible-based religion nowadays (Jews, Christians, Mormons, Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, etc.) does not, in fact, stone adulterers?</p>
<p>Have you read the whole book?  All the way through?</p>
<p>Have you even read the legal section you&#8217;re quoting?  Any capital crime required two eyewitnesses.  The Jews in first century Jerusalem felt that any Sanhedrin that executed a man more often than once in seventy years was a harsh and judgmental Sanhedrin.</p>
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		<title>By: Barton Paul Levenson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/29/certifiably-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-73590</link>
		<dc:creator>Barton Paul Levenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radwaste writes:

[[&lt;i&gt;If Dr. Phil mentions 1987A again, you might want to step out for a smoke or something, since its existence burns a bunch of holes in the Bible and apparently produces “the Blue Screen of Death” on the face of its fans. Please argue about your book elsewhere.&lt;/i&gt;]]

Didn&#039;t do that for me.  I fail to see the connection between SN1987A (not &quot;1987A&quot;) and anything the Bible says.

I won&#039;t argue about my book here if people here don&#039;t misrepresent what my book says.  Fair enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radwaste writes:</p>
<p>[[<i>If Dr. Phil mentions 1987A again, you might want to step out for a smoke or something, since its existence burns a bunch of holes in the Bible and apparently produces “the Blue Screen of Death” on the face of its fans. Please argue about your book elsewhere.</i>]]</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t do that for me.  I fail to see the connection between SN1987A (not &#8220;1987A&#8221;) and anything the Bible says.</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t argue about my book here if people here don&#8217;t misrepresent what my book says.  Fair enough?</p>
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		<title>By: dpa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/29/certifiably-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-73589</link>
		<dc:creator>dpa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 19:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kid you not, the second I pulled this up in google reader (I&quot;m waaay behind) the mormons rang my doorbell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kid you not, the second I pulled this up in google reader (I&#8221;m waaay behind) the mormons rang my doorbell.</p>
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		<title>By: Lars Bruchmann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/29/certifiably-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-73588</link>
		<dc:creator>Lars Bruchmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 03:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following the bible is quite difficult, really.  I&#039;d have to wear only certain types of fabrics, grow a long beard, etc.  Women have to have their heads covered.  I&#039;d have to stone adulterers.  And where does covetting begin?  How far away does a neighbour have to be to not be a neighbour anymore?  I ask because the woman a few houses down is quite something to look at and I may be covetting her each time I drive by!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following the bible is quite difficult, really.  I&#8217;d have to wear only certain types of fabrics, grow a long beard, etc.  Women have to have their heads covered.  I&#8217;d have to stone adulterers.  And where does covetting begin?  How far away does a neighbour have to be to not be a neighbour anymore?  I ask because the woman a few houses down is quite something to look at and I may be covetting her each time I drive by!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/29/certifiably-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-73587</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 15:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tsh RAF. You make it sound as if they are right to make such a dating website.

Beside the fact that ALL dating websites are retarded, this one is particularly high on the retardation list. It&#039;s prehistoric and close-minded. Also lacks a lot of PC. I mean, if you&#039;re gay you can&#039;t be christian? I know a couple gay christians myself. Also, what is a CERTIFIED CHRISTIAN (The whole point of this blog post)? How do they check that you are a CERTIFIED CHRISTIAN? Do you  have to be ultra fundamentalist or the folks that don&#039;t go to church and don&#039;t quite follow the bible and yet believe in christ also qualify?

Seriously. The owners of the site are dumb to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tsh RAF. You make it sound as if they are right to make such a dating website.</p>
<p>Beside the fact that ALL dating websites are retarded, this one is particularly high on the retardation list. It&#8217;s prehistoric and close-minded. Also lacks a lot of PC. I mean, if you&#8217;re gay you can&#8217;t be christian? I know a couple gay christians myself. Also, what is a CERTIFIED CHRISTIAN (The whole point of this blog post)? How do they check that you are a CERTIFIED CHRISTIAN? Do you  have to be ultra fundamentalist or the folks that don&#8217;t go to church and don&#8217;t quite follow the bible and yet believe in christ also qualify?</p>
<p>Seriously. The owners of the site are dumb to me.</p>
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		<title>By: RAF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/02/29/certifiably-christian/comment-page-2/#comment-73586</link>
		<dc:creator>RAF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, what was the purpose of this particular blog entry?

I could understand it if it were about &quot;christians&quot; trying to get religion taught as science in the public schools, or even the idiocy of &quot;seeing&quot; christ in a potato chip, but it&#039;s not about those type of &quot;things&quot; at all.

I am of the opinion that anyone can believe anything they wish as long as they don&#039;t try and push their beliefs onto others...of course any rational person will agree that creationism/intelligent design has no place in public school science classes...

But this blog seems to be nothing more than an attack against those &quot;stupid christians&quot;, the reasoning being &quot;they are stupid, so lets make fun of them&quot;.

Personally, I&#039;m about the most UN-religious person you&#039;ll ever meet, but I see NO NEED to make fun of people as if it is a form of &quot;entertainment&quot;.

Seriously, Phil...you should be ashamed of yourself for &quot;stooping&quot; so low.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, what was the purpose of this particular blog entry?</p>
<p>I could understand it if it were about &#8220;christians&#8221; trying to get religion taught as science in the public schools, or even the idiocy of &#8220;seeing&#8221; christ in a potato chip, but it&#8217;s not about those type of &#8220;things&#8221; at all.</p>
<p>I am of the opinion that anyone can believe anything they wish as long as they don&#8217;t try and push their beliefs onto others&#8230;of course any rational person will agree that creationism/intelligent design has no place in public school science classes&#8230;</p>
<p>But this blog seems to be nothing more than an attack against those &#8220;stupid christians&#8221;, the reasoning being &#8220;they are stupid, so lets make fun of them&#8221;.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m about the most UN-religious person you&#8217;ll ever meet, but I see NO NEED to make fun of people as if it is a form of &#8220;entertainment&#8221;.</p>
<p>Seriously, Phil&#8230;you should be ashamed of yourself for &#8220;stooping&#8221; so low.</p>
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