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		<title>By: McCain&#8217;s McCarthyism. McMaybe. &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
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		<description>[...] A while back, Presidential candidate John McCain said that there was evidence that vaccines cause autism. This did not endear him to me. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: joe harris</title>
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		<description>Dir. of the CDC admitting that they have nothing left after the VSD studies and the Denmark and other overseas studies were debunked by the NIEHS a arm of the NIH
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CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding has delivered a potentially explosive report to the powerful House Appropriations Committee, in which she admits to a startling string of errors in the design and methods used in the CDC’s landmark 2003 study that found no link between mercury in vaccines and autism, ADHD, speech delay or tics.Gerberding was responding to a highly critical 2006 report from the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), which concluded that the CDC’s flagship thimerosal safety study was riddled with “several areas of weaknesses” that combined to “reduce the usefulness” of the study.”CDC concurs,” Dr. Gerberding wrote in an undated mea culpa to Congress, (provided to me through a Capital Hill staffer) adding that her agency “does not plan to use” the database in question, the Vaccine Safety Datalink, (VSD) for any future “ecological studies” of autism.In fact, Gerberding’s report said, any continued use of the VSD for similar ecological studies of vaccines and autism “would be uninformative and potentially misleading.”Ecological vaccine studies are large, epidemiological analyses of risks and trends using computerized data from large populations - in this case children enrolled at several big HMOs - without ever examining a single patient in person. CDC officials conducted at least five separate analyses of the data over a four-year period from 1999-2003. The first analysis showed that children exposed to the most thimerosal by one month of age had extremely high relative risks for a number of outcomes, compared with children who got little or no mercury: The relative risk for ADHD was 8.29 times higher, for autism, it was 7.62 times higher, ADD, 6.38 times higher, tics, 5.65 times, and speech and language delays were 2.09 more likely among kids who got the most mercury.Over time, however, all of these risks declined into statistical insignificance, statistical inconsistency or else outright oblivion: The relative risk for autism plummeted from 7.62 in the first analysis, to 2.48 in the second version, to 1.69 in the third round, to 1.52 in the fourth, and down to nothing at all in the fifth, final, and published analysis printed in the Journal Pediatrics in November of 2003.Vaccine officials attributed the steady drop to the elimination of “statistical noise” from the data through due diligence and the endeavor for excellence in governmental statistical analysis.Indeed, the VSD study was the main pillar of a hugely influential 2004 report by the Institute of Medicine, which also concluded that there was no evidence of link between mercury, vaccines and autism. To this day, public health officials routinely point to five “large epidemiological studies” representing the “highest quality science,” none of which found any link to thimerosal.In fact, the American VSD study has long been held up as the best and brightest of them all (the others were in Sweden, the UK, and two in Denmark). And this reputation has stuck in the minds of medicine and the media.Curiously though, even the study’s lead author - Dr. Thomas Verstraeten, an employee of vaccine maker GlaxoSmithKline — protested that the VSD study “found no evidence against an association, as a negative study would. In fact, he said that additional study was needed, which “is the conclusion to which a neutral study must come.” That’s when Congress stepped in. In 2005, a group of Senators and Representatives headed by Sen. Joe Lieberman wrote to the NIEHS (an agency of the National Institutes of Health) saying that many parents no longer trusted the CDC to conduct independent minded studies of its own vaccine program. Lieberman et al asked NIEHS to review the CDC’s work on the vaccine database and report back with critiques and suggestions.The final NIEHS report was a serious and thoughtful critique of where the CDC went wrong in its design, conduct and analysis of the study. The NIEHS panel “identified several serious problems,” with the CDC’s effort, criticism to which the agency had not responded - until now.In her letter to the House Appropriations Committee, the CDC Director responded directly to many - though not all - of the most important criticisms and recommendations contained in the NIEHS panel report.For example, the NIEHS had criticized CDC for failing to account for other mercury exposures, including maternal sources from flu shots and immune globulin, as well as mercury in food and the environment.”CDC acknowledges this concern and recognizes this limitation,” the Gerberding reply says.The NIEHS also took CDC to task for eliminating 25% of the study population for a variety of reasons, even though this represented, “a susceptible population whose removal from the analysis might unintentionally reduce the ability to detect an effect of thimerosal.” This strict entry criteria likely led to an “under-ascertainment” of autism cases, the NIEHS reported.”CDC concurs,” Gerberding wrote, again noting that its study design was “not appropriate for studying this vaccine safety topic. The data are intended for administrative purposes and may not be predictive of the outcomes studied.”Another serious problem was that the HMOs changed the way they tracked and recorded autism diagnoses over time, including during the period when vaccine mercury levels were in decline. Such changes could “affect the observed rate of autism and could confound or distort trends in autism rates,” the NIEHS warned.”CDC concurs,” Dr. Gerberding wrote again, “that conducting an ecologic analysis using VSD administrative data to address potential associations between thimerosal exposure and risk of ASD is not useful.”Read that sentence one more time. The head of the CDC is saying that its most powerful and convincing piece of exonerating evidence for thimerosal is, in effect, “useless.”I hope everyone will read it, including the recommendations to make the VSD better, and the CDC’s agreement with all of the suggestions.As questionable at the US thimerosal study was, “it was an improvement on other studies, including the two in Denmark, both of which had serious weaknesses in their designs,” Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto, Professor of Public Health at UC Davis Medical School and Chair of the NIEHS panel, told reporter Dan Olmsted at UPI.That leaves very little for the CDC to go on in terms of proving that thimerosal and autism are not associated in any way. Yes, there is always the study of disability services data from California - which seem to be rising among the youngest cohorts of kids, who presumably received little or no mercury because thimerosal was largely removed from childhood shots.But California is an “ecological study” with problems of its own.”Although (this) information is often used by media and research entities to develop statistics and draw conclusions, some of these findings may misrepresent the quarterly figures,” cautions the website of the California Department of Developmental Services (DDS). “Increases in the number of persons reported from one quarter to the next do not
necessarily represent persons who are new to the DDS system.”Even the CDC admits that “there are several limitations” with linking a VSD study design with the California data, Gerberding wrote to Congress, because, among other things, California only counts “persons who were referred to and/or voluntarily entered” the disability system.”It will be interesting to see how the House Committee - and the mainstream media - react to this rather breathtaking confession by the CDC, which does seem to want to conduct the best vaccine-autism science possible (see Gerberding’s replies to NIEHS recommendations for improving the VSD: CDC officials are currently conducting in- depth follow up studies with VSD patients).As the waning months of the Bush Administration get underway, I can’t help but wonder if a little housecleaning might be going on at some of our top health agencies.(And on that note, please see my blog about the upcoming HHS/FDA/CDC/ NIH workshop on autism triggers in mitochondrial disorders (ie, Hannah Poling and her five vaccines).

This is a toxicologist Boyd Haley “I would like to make one significant point. I and other scientists like the Geiers, Dr. Deth, Dr. Jill James, etc. and numerous concerned MDs have talked at hundreds of autism conferences attended by hundreds of parents. The parents do not identify thimerosal as the most likely cause of autism based on emotion, they know the science better than the MDs at the CDC and their cohorts. They also read the FOIA material from SafeMinds and know a whitewash and “manufacturing of uncertainty” when they read it. There is NO substantial science behind the CDC’s claim that science is on their side. What is holding up progress on the autism treatments and sensible research is the success of the CDC campaign where parents are pictured as emotional while the CDC parrots are presented as logical, well educated experts. Scientists who have done research are not even mentioned so the deception by the CDC is further publicized by reporters who don’t know the difference. If the CDC represent mainstream science, then science in the USA is heading for rock bottom (like a genetic cause for an epidemic would be laughed at by a conference of scientists). Just calling a physician a scientist because he has his name on a few epidemiological based publications is a joke.” Boyd Haley

you see it’s things like the next example of the CDC fraudulant studies

But more importantly, a review of e-mails exchanged between the Danish researchers and the CDC reveals that the statement “From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal” may not have been true.In an e-mail on 11/13/2002 at 09:24, “co-author” Marlene B. Lauritsen informed Drs. Madsen, Thorsen and Schendel of the CDC:
“But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001″.
The sentences, before and after that unequivocal statement, were blackened with a magic marker before they were released through the Freedom of Information Act. (Exhibit II)

It does seem they the CDC uses that black marker a lot, here they are at it again. When byronchild asked CDC spokesperson Curtis Allen for a copy of the contract that would detail the agreement between the IOM and the CDC,
Allen stated that the contract would be available only in a heavily “redacted” or blacked-out format.

The IOM stated “no comment” to byronchild about the leaked transcript
or its
use in the pending civil court case.
If you still cannot figure out these people have done worse than terrorist then you are the one in denialism

Just one more thing the CDC is never suppose to hide anything from the public they are suppose to do everything above board in the public eye with
complete transparency it does appear that they the CDC is acting in self protection mode and that is very dangerous for the public and they have forgotten who they serve for lately it has been exclusively Big Pharma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dir. of the CDC admitting that they have nothing left after the VSD studies and the Denmark and other overseas studies were debunked by the NIEHS a arm of the NIH<br />
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CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding has delivered a potentially explosive report to the powerful House Appropriations Committee, in which she admits to a startling string of errors in the design and methods used in the CDC’s landmark 2003 study that found no link between mercury in vaccines and autism, ADHD, speech delay or tics.Gerberding was responding to a highly critical 2006 report from the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), which concluded that the CDC’s flagship thimerosal safety study was riddled with “several areas of weaknesses” that combined to “reduce the usefulness” of the study.”CDC concurs,” Dr. Gerberding wrote in an undated mea culpa to Congress, (provided to me through a Capital Hill staffer) adding that her agency “does not plan to use” the database in question, the Vaccine Safety Datalink, (VSD) for any future “ecological studies” of autism.In fact, Gerberding’s report said, any continued use of the VSD for similar ecological studies of vaccines and autism “would be uninformative and potentially misleading.”Ecological vaccine studies are large, epidemiological analyses of risks and trends using computerized data from large populations &#8211; in this case children enrolled at several big HMOs &#8211; without ever examining a single patient in person. CDC officials conducted at least five separate analyses of the data over a four-year period from 1999-2003. The first analysis showed that children exposed to the most thimerosal by one month of age had extremely high relative risks for a number of outcomes, compared with children who got little or no mercury: The relative risk for ADHD was 8.29 times higher, for autism, it was 7.62 times higher, ADD, 6.38 times higher, tics, 5.65 times, and speech and language delays were 2.09 more likely among kids who got the most mercury.Over time, however, all of these risks declined into statistical insignificance, statistical inconsistency or else outright oblivion: The relative risk for autism plummeted from 7.62 in the first analysis, to 2.48 in the second version, to 1.69 in the third round, to 1.52 in the fourth, and down to nothing at all in the fifth, final, and published analysis printed in the Journal Pediatrics in November of 2003.Vaccine officials attributed the steady drop to the elimination of “statistical noise” from the data through due diligence and the endeavor for excellence in governmental statistical analysis.Indeed, the VSD study was the main pillar of a hugely influential 2004 report by the Institute of Medicine, which also concluded that there was no evidence of link between mercury, vaccines and autism. To this day, public health officials routinely point to five “large epidemiological studies” representing the “highest quality science,” none of which found any link to thimerosal.In fact, the American VSD study has long been held up as the best and brightest of them all (the others were in Sweden, the UK, and two in Denmark). And this reputation has stuck in the minds of medicine and the media.Curiously though, even the study’s lead author &#8211; Dr. Thomas Verstraeten, an employee of vaccine maker GlaxoSmithKline — protested that the VSD study “found no evidence against an association, as a negative study would. In fact, he said that additional study was needed, which “is the conclusion to which a neutral study must come.” That’s when Congress stepped in. In 2005, a group of Senators and Representatives headed by Sen. Joe Lieberman wrote to the NIEHS (an agency of the National Institutes of Health) saying that many parents no longer trusted the CDC to conduct independent minded studies of its own vaccine program. Lieberman et al asked NIEHS to review the CDC’s work on the vaccine database and report back with critiques and suggestions.The final NIEHS report was a serious and thoughtful critique of where the CDC went wrong in its design, conduct and analysis of the study. The NIEHS panel “identified several serious problems,” with the CDC’s effort, criticism to which the agency had not responded &#8211; until now.In her letter to the House Appropriations Committee, the CDC Director responded directly to many &#8211; though not all &#8211; of the most important criticisms and recommendations contained in the NIEHS panel report.For example, the NIEHS had criticized CDC for failing to account for other mercury exposures, including maternal sources from flu shots and immune globulin, as well as mercury in food and the environment.”CDC acknowledges this concern and recognizes this limitation,” the Gerberding reply says.The NIEHS also took CDC to task for eliminating 25% of the study population for a variety of reasons, even though this represented, “a susceptible population whose removal from the analysis might unintentionally reduce the ability to detect an effect of thimerosal.” This strict entry criteria likely led to an “under-ascertainment” of autism cases, the NIEHS reported.”CDC concurs,” Gerberding wrote, again noting that its study design was “not appropriate for studying this vaccine safety topic. The data are intended for administrative purposes and may not be predictive of the outcomes studied.”Another serious problem was that the HMOs changed the way they tracked and recorded autism diagnoses over time, including during the period when vaccine mercury levels were in decline. Such changes could “affect the observed rate of autism and could confound or distort trends in autism rates,” the NIEHS warned.”CDC concurs,” Dr. Gerberding wrote again, “that conducting an ecologic analysis using VSD administrative data to address potential associations between thimerosal exposure and risk of ASD is not useful.”Read that sentence one more time. The head of the CDC is saying that its most powerful and convincing piece of exonerating evidence for thimerosal is, in effect, “useless.”I hope everyone will read it, including the recommendations to make the VSD better, and the CDC’s agreement with all of the suggestions.As questionable at the US thimerosal study was, “it was an improvement on other studies, including the two in Denmark, both of which had serious weaknesses in their designs,” Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto, Professor of Public Health at UC Davis Medical School and Chair of the NIEHS panel, told reporter Dan Olmsted at UPI.That leaves very little for the CDC to go on in terms of proving that thimerosal and autism are not associated in any way. Yes, there is always the study of disability services data from California &#8211; which seem to be rising among the youngest cohorts of kids, who presumably received little or no mercury because thimerosal was largely removed from childhood shots.But California is an “ecological study” with problems of its own.”Although (this) information is often used by media and research entities to develop statistics and draw conclusions, some of these findings may misrepresent the quarterly figures,” cautions the website of the California Department of Developmental Services (DDS). “Increases in the number of persons reported from one quarter to the next do not<br />
necessarily represent persons who are new to the DDS system.”Even the CDC admits that “there are several limitations” with linking a VSD study design with the California data, Gerberding wrote to Congress, because, among other things, California only counts “persons who were referred to and/or voluntarily entered” the disability system.”It will be interesting to see how the House Committee &#8211; and the mainstream media &#8211; react to this rather breathtaking confession by the CDC, which does seem to want to conduct the best vaccine-autism science possible (see Gerberding’s replies to NIEHS recommendations for improving the VSD: CDC officials are currently conducting in- depth follow up studies with VSD patients).As the waning months of the Bush Administration get underway, I can’t help but wonder if a little housecleaning might be going on at some of our top health agencies.(And on that note, please see my blog about the upcoming HHS/FDA/CDC/ NIH workshop on autism triggers in mitochondrial disorders (ie, Hannah Poling and her five vaccines).</p>
<p>This is a toxicologist Boyd Haley “I would like to make one significant point. I and other scientists like the Geiers, Dr. Deth, Dr. Jill James, etc. and numerous concerned MDs have talked at hundreds of autism conferences attended by hundreds of parents. The parents do not identify thimerosal as the most likely cause of autism based on emotion, they know the science better than the MDs at the CDC and their cohorts. They also read the FOIA material from SafeMinds and know a whitewash and “manufacturing of uncertainty” when they read it. There is NO substantial science behind the CDC’s claim that science is on their side. What is holding up progress on the autism treatments and sensible research is the success of the CDC campaign where parents are pictured as emotional while the CDC parrots are presented as logical, well educated experts. Scientists who have done research are not even mentioned so the deception by the CDC is further publicized by reporters who don’t know the difference. If the CDC represent mainstream science, then science in the USA is heading for rock bottom (like a genetic cause for an epidemic would be laughed at by a conference of scientists). Just calling a physician a scientist because he has his name on a few epidemiological based publications is a joke.” Boyd Haley</p>
<p>you see it’s things like the next example of the CDC fraudulant studies</p>
<p>But more importantly, a review of e-mails exchanged between the Danish researchers and the CDC reveals that the statement “From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal” may not have been true.In an e-mail on 11/13/2002 at 09:24, “co-author” Marlene B. Lauritsen informed Drs. Madsen, Thorsen and Schendel of the CDC:<br />
“But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001″.<br />
The sentences, before and after that unequivocal statement, were blackened with a magic marker before they were released through the Freedom of Information Act. (Exhibit II)</p>
<p>It does seem they the CDC uses that black marker a lot, here they are at it again. When byronchild asked CDC spokesperson Curtis Allen for a copy of the contract that would detail the agreement between the IOM and the CDC,<br />
Allen stated that the contract would be available only in a heavily “redacted” or blacked-out format.</p>
<p>The IOM stated “no comment” to byronchild about the leaked transcript<br />
or its<br />
use in the pending civil court case.<br />
If you still cannot figure out these people have done worse than terrorist then you are the one in denialism</p>
<p>Just one more thing the CDC is never suppose to hide anything from the public they are suppose to do everything above board in the public eye with<br />
complete transparency it does appear that they the CDC is acting in self protection mode and that is very dangerous for the public and they have forgotten who they serve for lately it has been exclusively Big Pharma</p>
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		<title>By: joe harris</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 14:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TheBlackCat Says: 
March 5th, 2008 at 11:12 am 
@ KC:

Someone who steadfastly refuses to accept the evidence no matter much evidence is provided is antiscience. That is the definition of one of the two main classes of antiscience, denialism.

At a certain point so much evidence has been accumulated for a certain scientific principle that you simply cannot reject that principle without rejecting science along with it. 

Black cat just where do I start tearing your statement apart Maybe if the studies that found no evidence of a link 
had not been faked and the IOM report been out an out fraud I would have to agree with you. Now for the Proof and exposing CDC lies 

     If you ever told the IOM looked at this and found no link.   
       like Paul Harvey says now for the rest of the story     

This is the proof the CDC bought the IOM but as of recently we have learned that the IOM advised the CDC to seek counsel. This should not be happening in the US.  DOES THIS  1ST EXCERPT SOUND LIKE THEY FOUND NO LINK? IN EXCERPT 2 THEY THE CDC IS ORDERING THE IOM NOT TO FIND CAUSATION IGNORE THE FIVE GOOD BIOLOGICAL STUDIESAND PUT ALL THERE CONFIDENCE IN POPULATION BASED STUDIES THAT WE NOW KNOW HAVE BEEN FAKED AND ACCORDING TO CONGRESS AND NEIHS WAS FATE-ALLY FLAWED and recently Dir. of CDC Gerberdine concurred that the CDC main studies are worthless and the population based studies done over seas are worse IN EXCERPT # 3 THEIR MINDS WERE MADE UP BEFORE THEY SAWANY STUDIES NOT TO MENTION THEY WERE ORDERED NOT TO FIND CAUSATION.    TO THESE PEOPLE OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN  MEAN NOTHING ABSOLUTLY NOTHING. ALL THOUGH IN PRIVATE THEY MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE IT&#039;S A HARD DECISION  WE MAKE KNOWING THAT THEIR WILL HAVE TO BE LAMBS SACRIFICED FOR THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE.   I WONDER IF THAT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GUY THAT MADE THAT STATEMENT KNEW  THAT THEY WERE SACRIFICED SO PEOPLE COULD SAVE FIFTY CENTS TO TWO DOLLARS  A  CHILDAND COST THIS NATION 3.2 TO 5  MILLION $$$FOR THE MAYBE 1 IN 50 WITH A MITOCHONDRIA.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------THIS WAS TAKEN FROM THE IOM MEETING  MINUTES.                                               EXCERPT  # 1&quot;We&#039;ve got a dragon by the tail here,&quot; states a committee member in the
transcript. &quot;At the end of the line, what we know is - and I agree - 
that
the more negative that presentation [the report] is, the less likely 
people
are to use vaccination, immunization, and we know what the results of 
that
will be. We are kind of caught in a trap. How we work our way out of 
the
trap, I think, is the charge.&quot;
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------EXCERPT # 2-When byronchild asked CDC spokesperson Curtis Allen for a copy of the
contract that would detail the agreement between the IOM and the CDC, 
Allen
stated that the contract would be available only in a heavily 
&quot;redacted&quot; or
blacked-out format.

The IOM stated &quot;no comment&quot; to byronchild about the leaked transcript 
or its
use in the pending civil court case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------EXCERPT # 3Specifically sited are statements by the IOM&#039;s study director Kathleen
Stratton, PhD, and committee chair Marie McCormick, MD. These 
statements,
the law firm says, strongly suggest Stratton and McCormick deliberately
railroaded their committee into specific outcomes (all in italics 
directly
from court document):

Dr. McCormick, for example, in speaking of the CDC, noted that the 
agency
&quot;wants us to declare, well, these things are pretty safe on a 
population
basis.&quot; (See Exhibit 1 at page 33).

&quot;The committee&#039;s bias and predetermination of the causality issues 
presented
are found at page 74 in a comment from Dr. Stratton:

Here the CDC Is lying again for just recently the CDC stated that the vaccine schedule has always been flexible this was after they have figured out it might be to many to soon with to many TOXINS causing mito disorders.
As you can see that is not what this statement of Dr. stratton is conveying notice how she says we would not say compensate and in my sons case they did what she said  we would not say compensate so I guess the NVICP is a cruel joke on severely damaged children and their parents by people who seem to be in line for competing with Hitler for the biggest holocaust.
infact these people at the CDC seem not to have a conscinece or for that matter a soul that has not been sold to Big Pharma they are truley sick people  


Dr. Stratton: &quot;We said this before you got here, and I think we said 
this
yesterday, the point of no return, the line we will not cross in public
policy is to pull the vaccine, change the schedule. We could say it is 
time
to revisit this but we will never recommend that level. Even 
recommending
research is recommendations for policy.  We wouldn&#039;t say compensate, we
wouldn&#039;t say pull the vaccine, we wouldn&#039;t say stop the program.&quot;

Similarly, Dr. McCormick, at page 97 in discussing whether autism could 
be
associated with vaccines, stated that &quot;we are not ever going to come 
down
that it is a true side effect,&quot; despite the fact that the committee had 
not
yet considered any evidence on this issue.

Dir. of the CDC admitting that they have nothing left after the VSD studies and the Denmark and other overseas studies were debunked by the NIEHS a arm of the NIH
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CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding has delivered a potentially explosive report to the powerful House Appropriations Committee, in which she admits to a startling string of errors in the design and methods used in the CDC&#039;s landmark 2003 study that found no link between mercury in vaccines and autism, ADHD, speech delay or tics.Gerberding was responding to a highly critical 2006 report from the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), which concluded that the CDC&#039;s flagship thimerosal safety study was riddled with &quot;several areas of weaknesses&quot; that combined to &quot;reduce the usefulness&quot; of the study.&quot;CDC concurs,&quot; Dr. Gerberding wrote in an undated mea culpa to Congress, (provided to me through a Capital Hill staffer) adding that her agency &quot;does not plan to use&quot; the database in question, the Vaccine Safety Datalink, (VSD) for any future &quot;ecological studies&quot; of autism.In fact, Gerberding&#039;s report said, any continued use of the VSD for similar ecological studies of vaccines and autism &quot;would be uninformative and potentially misleading.&quot;Ecological vaccine studies are large, epidemiological analyses of risks and trends using computerized data from large populations - in this case children enrolled at several big HMOs - without ever examining a single patient in person. CDC officials conducted at least five separate analyses of the data over a four-year period from 1999-2003. The first analysis showed that children exposed to the most thimerosal by one month of age had extremely high relative risks for a number of outcomes, compared with children who got little or no mercury: The relative risk for ADHD was 8.29 times higher, for autism, it was 7.62 times higher, ADD, 6.38 times higher, tics, 5.65 times, and speech and language delays were 2.09 more likely among kids who got the most mercury.Over time, however, all of these risks declined into statistical insignificance, statistical inconsistency or else outright oblivion: The relative risk for autism plummeted from 7.62 in the first analysis, to 2.48 in the second version, to 1.69 in the third round, to 1.52 in the fourth, and down to nothing at all in the fifth, final, and published analysis printed in the Journal Pediatrics in November of 2003.Vaccine officials attributed the steady drop to the elimination of &quot;statistical noise&quot; from the data through due diligence and the endeavor for excellence in governmental statistical analysis.Indeed, the VSD study was the main pillar of a hugely influential 2004 report by the Institute of Medicine, which also concluded that there was no evidence of link between mercury, vaccines and autism. To this day, public health officials routinely point to five &quot;large epidemiological studies&quot; representing the &quot;highest quality science,&quot; none of which found any link to thimerosal.In fact, the American VSD study has long been held up as the best and brightest of them all (the others were in Sweden, the UK, and two in Denmark). And this reputation has stuck in the minds of medicine and the media.Curiously though, even the study&#039;s lead author - Dr. Thomas Verstraeten, an employee of vaccine maker GlaxoSmithKline -- protested that the VSD study &quot;found no evidence against an association, as a negative study would. In fact, he said that additional study was needed, which &quot;is the conclusion to which a neutral study must come.&quot; That&#039;s when Congress stepped in. In 2005, a group of Senators and Representatives headed by Sen. Joe Lieberman wrote to the NIEHS (an agency of the National Institutes of Health) saying that many parents no longer trusted the CDC to conduct independent minded studies of its own vaccine program. Lieberman et al asked NIEHS to review the CDC&#039;s work on the vaccine database and report back with critiques and suggestions.The final NIEHS report was a serious and thoughtful critique of where the CDC went wrong in its design, conduct and analysis of the study. The NIEHS panel &quot;identified several serious problems,&quot; with the CDC&#039;s effort, criticism to which the agency had not responded - until now.In her letter to the House Appropriations Committee, the CDC Director responded directly to many - though not all - of the most important criticisms and recommendations contained in the NIEHS panel report.For example, the NIEHS had criticized CDC for failing to account for other mercury exposures, including maternal sources from flu shots and immune globulin, as well as mercury in food and the environment.&quot;CDC acknowledges this concern and recognizes this limitation,&quot; the Gerberding reply says.The NIEHS also took CDC to task for eliminating 25% of the study population for a variety of reasons, even though this represented, &quot;a susceptible population whose removal from the analysis might unintentionally reduce the ability to detect an effect of thimerosal.&quot; This strict entry criteria likely led to an &quot;under-ascertainment&quot; of autism cases, the NIEHS reported.&quot;CDC concurs,&quot; Gerberding wrote, again noting that its study design was &quot;not appropriate for studying this vaccine safety topic. The data are intended for administrative purposes and may not be predictive of the outcomes studied.&quot;Another serious problem was that the HMOs changed the way they tracked and recorded autism diagnoses over time, including during the period when vaccine mercury levels were in decline. Such changes could &quot;affect the observed rate of autism and could confound or distort trends in autism rates,&quot; the NIEHS warned.&quot;CDC concurs,&quot; Dr. Gerberding wrote again, &quot;that conducting an ecologic analysis using VSD administrative data to address potential associations between thimerosal exposure and risk of ASD is not useful.&quot;Read that sentence one more time. The head of the CDC is saying that its most powerful and convincing piece of exonerating evidence for thimerosal is, in effect, &quot;useless.&quot;I hope everyone will read it, including the recommendations to make the VSD better, and the CDC&#039;s agreement with all of the suggestions.As questionable at the US thimerosal study was, &quot;it was an improvement on other studies, including the two in Denmark, both of which had serious weaknesses in their designs,&quot; Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto, Professor of Public Health at UC Davis Medical School and Chair of the NIEHS panel, told reporter Dan Olmsted at UPI.That leaves very little for the CDC to go on in terms of proving that thimerosal and autism are not associated in any way. Yes, there is always the study of disability services data from California - which seem to be rising among the youngest cohorts of kids, who presumably received little or no mercury because thimerosal was largely removed from childhood shots.But California is an &quot;ecological study&quot; with problems of its own.&quot;Although (this) information is often used by media and research entities to develop statistics and draw conclusions, some of these findings may misrepresent the quarterly figures,&quot; cautions the website of the California Department of Developmental Services (DDS). &quot;Increases in the number of persons reported from one quarter to the next do not
necessarily represent persons who are new to the DDS system.&quot;Even the CDC admits that &quot;there are several limitations&quot; with linking a VSD study design with the California data, Gerberding wrote to Congress, because, among other things, California only counts &quot;persons who were referred to and/or voluntarily entered&quot; the disability system.&quot;It will be interesting to see how the House Committee - and the mainstream media - react to this rather breathtaking confession by the CDC, which does seem to want to conduct the best vaccine-autism science possible (see Gerberding&#039;s replies to NIEHS recommendations for improving the VSD: CDC officials are currently conducting in- depth follow up studies with VSD patients).As the waning months of the Bush Administration get underway, I can&#039;t help but wonder if a little housecleaning might be going on at some of our top health agencies.(And on that note, please see my blog about the upcoming HHS/FDA/CDC/ NIH workshop on autism triggers in mitochondrial disorders (ie, Hannah Poling and her five vaccines).

This is a toxicologist Boyd Haley &quot;I would like to make one significant point.  I and other scientists like the Geiers, Dr. Deth, Dr. Jill James, etc. and numerous concerned MDs have talked at hundreds of autism conferences attended by hundreds of parents.  The parents do not identify thimerosal as the most likely cause of autism based on emotion, they know the science better than the MDs at the CDC and their cohorts.  They also read the FOIA material from SafeMinds and know a whitewash and “manufacturing of uncertainty” when they read it.  There is NO substantial science behind the CDC’s claim that science is on their side.  What is holding up progress on the autism treatments and sensible research is the success of the CDC campaign where parents are pictured as emotional while the CDC parrots are presented as logical, well educated experts.  Scientists who have done research are not even mentioned so the deception by the CDC is further publicized by reporters who don’t know the difference.  If the CDC represent mainstream science, then science in the USA is heading for rock bottom (like a genetic cause for an epidemic would be laughed at by a conference of scientists).  Just calling a physician a scientist because he has his name on a few epidemiological based publications is a joke.&quot;  Boyd Haley

you see it&#039;s things like the next example of the CDC fraudulant studies

But more importantly, a review of e-mails exchanged between the Danish researchers and the CDC reveals that the statement &quot;From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal&quot; may not have been true.In an e-mail on 11/13/2002 at 09:24, &quot;co-author&quot; Marlene B. Lauritsen informed Drs. Madsen, Thorsen and Schendel of the CDC:
&quot;But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001&quot;. 
The sentences, before and after that unequivocal statement, were blackened with a magic marker before they were released through the Freedom of Information Act. (Exhibit II)

It does seem they the CDC uses that black marker a lot, here they are at it again.   When byronchild asked CDC spokesperson Curtis Allen for a copy of the contract that would detail the agreement between the IOM and the CDC, 
Allen stated that the contract would be available only in a heavily &quot;redacted&quot; or blacked-out format.

The IOM stated &quot;no comment&quot; to byronchild about the leaked transcript 
or its
use in the pending civil court case. 
If you still cannot figure out these people have done worse than terrorist then you are the one in denialism

Just one more thing the CDC is never suppose to hide anything from the public they are suppose to do everything above board in the public eye with
complete transparency it does appear that they the CDC is acting in self protection mode and that is very dangerous for the public and they have forgotten who they serve for lately it has been exclusively Big Pharma</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheBlackCat Says:<br />
March 5th, 2008 at 11:12 am<br />
@ KC:</p>
<p>Someone who steadfastly refuses to accept the evidence no matter much evidence is provided is antiscience. That is the definition of one of the two main classes of antiscience, denialism.</p>
<p>At a certain point so much evidence has been accumulated for a certain scientific principle that you simply cannot reject that principle without rejecting science along with it. </p>
<p>Black cat just where do I start tearing your statement apart Maybe if the studies that found no evidence of a link<br />
had not been faked and the IOM report been out an out fraud I would have to agree with you. Now for the Proof and exposing CDC lies </p>
<p>     If you ever told the IOM looked at this and found no link.<br />
       like Paul Harvey says now for the rest of the story     </p>
<p>This is the proof the CDC bought the IOM but as of recently we have learned that the IOM advised the CDC to seek counsel. This should not be happening in the US.  DOES THIS  1ST EXCERPT SOUND LIKE THEY FOUND NO LINK? IN EXCERPT 2 THEY THE CDC IS ORDERING THE IOM NOT TO FIND CAUSATION IGNORE THE FIVE GOOD BIOLOGICAL STUDIESAND PUT ALL THERE CONFIDENCE IN POPULATION BASED STUDIES THAT WE NOW KNOW HAVE BEEN FAKED AND ACCORDING TO CONGRESS AND NEIHS WAS FATE-ALLY FLAWED and recently Dir. of CDC Gerberdine concurred that the CDC main studies are worthless and the population based studies done over seas are worse IN EXCERPT # 3 THEIR MINDS WERE MADE UP BEFORE THEY SAWANY STUDIES NOT TO MENTION THEY WERE ORDERED NOT TO FIND CAUSATION.    TO THESE PEOPLE OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN  MEAN NOTHING ABSOLUTLY NOTHING. ALL THOUGH IN PRIVATE THEY MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE IT&#8217;S A HARD DECISION  WE MAKE KNOWING THAT THEIR WILL HAVE TO BE LAMBS SACRIFICED FOR THE GOOD OF THE WHOLE.   I WONDER IF THAT HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES GUY THAT MADE THAT STATEMENT KNEW  THAT THEY WERE SACRIFICED SO PEOPLE COULD SAVE FIFTY CENTS TO TWO DOLLARS  A  CHILDAND COST THIS NATION 3.2 TO 5  MILLION $$$FOR THE MAYBE 1 IN 50 WITH A MITOCHONDRIA.  &#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-THIS WAS TAKEN FROM THE IOM MEETING  MINUTES.                                               EXCERPT  # 1&#8243;We&#8217;ve got a dragon by the tail here,&#8221; states a committee member in the<br />
transcript. &#8220;At the end of the line, what we know is &#8211; and I agree &#8211;<br />
that<br />
the more negative that presentation [the report] is, the less likely<br />
people<br />
are to use vaccination, immunization, and we know what the results of<br />
that<br />
will be. We are kind of caught in a trap. How we work our way out of<br />
the<br />
trap, I think, is the charge.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-EXCERPT # 2-When byronchild asked CDC spokesperson Curtis Allen for a copy of the<br />
contract that would detail the agreement between the IOM and the CDC,<br />
Allen<br />
stated that the contract would be available only in a heavily<br />
&#8220;redacted&#8221; or<br />
blacked-out format.</p>
<p>The IOM stated &#8220;no comment&#8221; to byronchild about the leaked transcript<br />
or its<br />
use in the pending civil court case.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-EXCERPT # 3Specifically sited are statements by the IOM&#8217;s study director Kathleen<br />
Stratton, PhD, and committee chair Marie McCormick, MD. These<br />
statements,<br />
the law firm says, strongly suggest Stratton and McCormick deliberately<br />
railroaded their committee into specific outcomes (all in italics<br />
directly<br />
from court document):</p>
<p>Dr. McCormick, for example, in speaking of the CDC, noted that the<br />
agency<br />
&#8220;wants us to declare, well, these things are pretty safe on a<br />
population<br />
basis.&#8221; (See Exhibit 1 at page 33).</p>
<p>&#8220;The committee&#8217;s bias and predetermination of the causality issues<br />
presented<br />
are found at page 74 in a comment from Dr. Stratton:</p>
<p>Here the CDC Is lying again for just recently the CDC stated that the vaccine schedule has always been flexible this was after they have figured out it might be to many to soon with to many TOXINS causing mito disorders.<br />
As you can see that is not what this statement of Dr. stratton is conveying notice how she says we would not say compensate and in my sons case they did what she said  we would not say compensate so I guess the NVICP is a cruel joke on severely damaged children and their parents by people who seem to be in line for competing with Hitler for the biggest holocaust.<br />
infact these people at the CDC seem not to have a conscinece or for that matter a soul that has not been sold to Big Pharma they are truley sick people  </p>
<p>Dr. Stratton: &#8220;We said this before you got here, and I think we said<br />
this<br />
yesterday, the point of no return, the line we will not cross in public<br />
policy is to pull the vaccine, change the schedule. We could say it is<br />
time<br />
to revisit this but we will never recommend that level. Even<br />
recommending<br />
research is recommendations for policy.  We wouldn&#8217;t say compensate, we<br />
wouldn&#8217;t say pull the vaccine, we wouldn&#8217;t say stop the program.&#8221;</p>
<p>Similarly, Dr. McCormick, at page 97 in discussing whether autism could<br />
be<br />
associated with vaccines, stated that &#8220;we are not ever going to come<br />
down<br />
that it is a true side effect,&#8221; despite the fact that the committee had<br />
not<br />
yet considered any evidence on this issue.</p>
<p>Dir. of the CDC admitting that they have nothing left after the VSD studies and the Denmark and other overseas studies were debunked by the NIEHS a arm of the NIH<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
CDC Director Dr. Julie Gerberding has delivered a potentially explosive report to the powerful House Appropriations Committee, in which she admits to a startling string of errors in the design and methods used in the CDC&#8217;s landmark 2003 study that found no link between mercury in vaccines and autism, ADHD, speech delay or tics.Gerberding was responding to a highly critical 2006 report from the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences (NIEHS), which concluded that the CDC&#8217;s flagship thimerosal safety study was riddled with &#8220;several areas of weaknesses&#8221; that combined to &#8220;reduce the usefulness&#8221; of the study.&#8221;CDC concurs,&#8221; Dr. Gerberding wrote in an undated mea culpa to Congress, (provided to me through a Capital Hill staffer) adding that her agency &#8220;does not plan to use&#8221; the database in question, the Vaccine Safety Datalink, (VSD) for any future &#8220;ecological studies&#8221; of autism.In fact, Gerberding&#8217;s report said, any continued use of the VSD for similar ecological studies of vaccines and autism &#8220;would be uninformative and potentially misleading.&#8221;Ecological vaccine studies are large, epidemiological analyses of risks and trends using computerized data from large populations &#8211; in this case children enrolled at several big HMOs &#8211; without ever examining a single patient in person. CDC officials conducted at least five separate analyses of the data over a four-year period from 1999-2003. The first analysis showed that children exposed to the most thimerosal by one month of age had extremely high relative risks for a number of outcomes, compared with children who got little or no mercury: The relative risk for ADHD was 8.29 times higher, for autism, it was 7.62 times higher, ADD, 6.38 times higher, tics, 5.65 times, and speech and language delays were 2.09 more likely among kids who got the most mercury.Over time, however, all of these risks declined into statistical insignificance, statistical inconsistency or else outright oblivion: The relative risk for autism plummeted from 7.62 in the first analysis, to 2.48 in the second version, to 1.69 in the third round, to 1.52 in the fourth, and down to nothing at all in the fifth, final, and published analysis printed in the Journal Pediatrics in November of 2003.Vaccine officials attributed the steady drop to the elimination of &#8220;statistical noise&#8221; from the data through due diligence and the endeavor for excellence in governmental statistical analysis.Indeed, the VSD study was the main pillar of a hugely influential 2004 report by the Institute of Medicine, which also concluded that there was no evidence of link between mercury, vaccines and autism. To this day, public health officials routinely point to five &#8220;large epidemiological studies&#8221; representing the &#8220;highest quality science,&#8221; none of which found any link to thimerosal.In fact, the American VSD study has long been held up as the best and brightest of them all (the others were in Sweden, the UK, and two in Denmark). And this reputation has stuck in the minds of medicine and the media.Curiously though, even the study&#8217;s lead author &#8211; Dr. Thomas Verstraeten, an employee of vaccine maker GlaxoSmithKline &#8212; protested that the VSD study &#8220;found no evidence against an association, as a negative study would. In fact, he said that additional study was needed, which &#8220;is the conclusion to which a neutral study must come.&#8221; That&#8217;s when Congress stepped in. In 2005, a group of Senators and Representatives headed by Sen. Joe Lieberman wrote to the NIEHS (an agency of the National Institutes of Health) saying that many parents no longer trusted the CDC to conduct independent minded studies of its own vaccine program. Lieberman et al asked NIEHS to review the CDC&#8217;s work on the vaccine database and report back with critiques and suggestions.The final NIEHS report was a serious and thoughtful critique of where the CDC went wrong in its design, conduct and analysis of the study. The NIEHS panel &#8220;identified several serious problems,&#8221; with the CDC&#8217;s effort, criticism to which the agency had not responded &#8211; until now.In her letter to the House Appropriations Committee, the CDC Director responded directly to many &#8211; though not all &#8211; of the most important criticisms and recommendations contained in the NIEHS panel report.For example, the NIEHS had criticized CDC for failing to account for other mercury exposures, including maternal sources from flu shots and immune globulin, as well as mercury in food and the environment.&#8221;CDC acknowledges this concern and recognizes this limitation,&#8221; the Gerberding reply says.The NIEHS also took CDC to task for eliminating 25% of the study population for a variety of reasons, even though this represented, &#8220;a susceptible population whose removal from the analysis might unintentionally reduce the ability to detect an effect of thimerosal.&#8221; This strict entry criteria likely led to an &#8220;under-ascertainment&#8221; of autism cases, the NIEHS reported.&#8221;CDC concurs,&#8221; Gerberding wrote, again noting that its study design was &#8220;not appropriate for studying this vaccine safety topic. The data are intended for administrative purposes and may not be predictive of the outcomes studied.&#8221;Another serious problem was that the HMOs changed the way they tracked and recorded autism diagnoses over time, including during the period when vaccine mercury levels were in decline. Such changes could &#8220;affect the observed rate of autism and could confound or distort trends in autism rates,&#8221; the NIEHS warned.&#8221;CDC concurs,&#8221; Dr. Gerberding wrote again, &#8220;that conducting an ecologic analysis using VSD administrative data to address potential associations between thimerosal exposure and risk of ASD is not useful.&#8221;Read that sentence one more time. The head of the CDC is saying that its most powerful and convincing piece of exonerating evidence for thimerosal is, in effect, &#8220;useless.&#8221;I hope everyone will read it, including the recommendations to make the VSD better, and the CDC&#8217;s agreement with all of the suggestions.As questionable at the US thimerosal study was, &#8220;it was an improvement on other studies, including the two in Denmark, both of which had serious weaknesses in their designs,&#8221; Dr. Irva Hertz-Picciotto, Professor of Public Health at UC Davis Medical School and Chair of the NIEHS panel, told reporter Dan Olmsted at UPI.That leaves very little for the CDC to go on in terms of proving that thimerosal and autism are not associated in any way. Yes, there is always the study of disability services data from California &#8211; which seem to be rising among the youngest cohorts of kids, who presumably received little or no mercury because thimerosal was largely removed from childhood shots.But California is an &#8220;ecological study&#8221; with problems of its own.&#8221;Although (this) information is often used by media and research entities to develop statistics and draw conclusions, some of these findings may misrepresent the quarterly figures,&#8221; cautions the website of the California Department of Developmental Services (DDS). &#8220;Increases in the number of persons reported from one quarter to the next do not<br />
necessarily represent persons who are new to the DDS system.&#8221;Even the CDC admits that &#8220;there are several limitations&#8221; with linking a VSD study design with the California data, Gerberding wrote to Congress, because, among other things, California only counts &#8220;persons who were referred to and/or voluntarily entered&#8221; the disability system.&#8221;It will be interesting to see how the House Committee &#8211; and the mainstream media &#8211; react to this rather breathtaking confession by the CDC, which does seem to want to conduct the best vaccine-autism science possible (see Gerberding&#8217;s replies to NIEHS recommendations for improving the VSD: CDC officials are currently conducting in- depth follow up studies with VSD patients).As the waning months of the Bush Administration get underway, I can&#8217;t help but wonder if a little housecleaning might be going on at some of our top health agencies.(And on that note, please see my blog about the upcoming HHS/FDA/CDC/ NIH workshop on autism triggers in mitochondrial disorders (ie, Hannah Poling and her five vaccines).</p>
<p>This is a toxicologist Boyd Haley &#8220;I would like to make one significant point.  I and other scientists like the Geiers, Dr. Deth, Dr. Jill James, etc. and numerous concerned MDs have talked at hundreds of autism conferences attended by hundreds of parents.  The parents do not identify thimerosal as the most likely cause of autism based on emotion, they know the science better than the MDs at the CDC and their cohorts.  They also read the FOIA material from SafeMinds and know a whitewash and “manufacturing of uncertainty” when they read it.  There is NO substantial science behind the CDC’s claim that science is on their side.  What is holding up progress on the autism treatments and sensible research is the success of the CDC campaign where parents are pictured as emotional while the CDC parrots are presented as logical, well educated experts.  Scientists who have done research are not even mentioned so the deception by the CDC is further publicized by reporters who don’t know the difference.  If the CDC represent mainstream science, then science in the USA is heading for rock bottom (like a genetic cause for an epidemic would be laughed at by a conference of scientists).  Just calling a physician a scientist because he has his name on a few epidemiological based publications is a joke.&#8221;  Boyd Haley</p>
<p>you see it&#8217;s things like the next example of the CDC fraudulant studies</p>
<p>But more importantly, a review of e-mails exchanged between the Danish researchers and the CDC reveals that the statement &#8220;From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal&#8221; may not have been true.In an e-mail on 11/13/2002 at 09:24, &#8220;co-author&#8221; Marlene B. Lauritsen informed Drs. Madsen, Thorsen and Schendel of the CDC:<br />
&#8220;But the incidence and prevalence are still decreasing in 2001&#8243;.<br />
The sentences, before and after that unequivocal statement, were blackened with a magic marker before they were released through the Freedom of Information Act. (Exhibit II)</p>
<p>It does seem they the CDC uses that black marker a lot, here they are at it again.   When byronchild asked CDC spokesperson Curtis Allen for a copy of the contract that would detail the agreement between the IOM and the CDC,<br />
Allen stated that the contract would be available only in a heavily &#8220;redacted&#8221; or blacked-out format.</p>
<p>The IOM stated &#8220;no comment&#8221; to byronchild about the leaked transcript<br />
or its<br />
use in the pending civil court case.<br />
If you still cannot figure out these people have done worse than terrorist then you are the one in denialism</p>
<p>Just one more thing the CDC is never suppose to hide anything from the public they are suppose to do everything above board in the public eye with<br />
complete transparency it does appear that they the CDC is acting in self protection mode and that is very dangerous for the public and they have forgotten who they serve for lately it has been exclusively Big Pharma</p>
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		<description>Tom I am fixing to tear apart you little world that there is no scientific studies linking Thimerosal to autism just think of mitochondria dysfunction 
disorder google it and find that the very cause is toxins such as in vaccines  &quot;Vaccinations contain at least four neuro-toxins: mercury, formaldehyde, MSG and aluminum hydroxide. Researchers at the University of British Columbia have been looking at the possible effects of the fourth item in this list. They injected mice with anthrax vaccine containing aluminum hydroxide. After 20 weeks studying the mice, the team found statistically significant increases in anxiety (38 percent); memory deficits (41 times more errors than the sample group); and allergic skin reaction (20 percent). On autopsy, brain tissue samples showed that 35 percent of the cells were in the process of destroying themselves. According to Chris Shaw, lead researcher for the project, his research shows a link between aluminum hydroxide and symptoms of Parkinson&#039;s, Alzheimer&#039;s and Lou Gehrig&#039;s disease. &quot;No one in my lab wants to get vaccinated,&quot; he said. &quot;This totally creeped us out. We weren&#039;t out there to poke holes in vaccines. But all of a sudden, oh my God--we&#039;ve got neuron death!&quot; (www.straight.com/content/cfm?id=16717).
According to Chris Shaw; lead researcher, his research shows a link between aluminum hydroxide and symptoms of Parkinson&#039;s, Alzheimer&#039;s and Lou Gehrig&#039;s disease. &quot;No one in my lab wants to get vaccinated. Just a thought, we could learn from this statement. From scientist’s that know, and not just those spouting CDC propaganda as most are. Who try to defend putting toxic chemicals in our children’s vaccines. Thimerosal turns into
ethyl mercury then it enters the brain of the child and it metabolizes into inorganic mercury and research has shown that the most damaging to the mitochondria that depletes the glutathione is inorganic mercury monosodium glutamate (MSG, added to many Asian foods) I will bet MSG in children&#039;s vaccines is far worse than indicated MSG  may also exacerbate a mitochondrial disorder. So Tom it seems that we may have stumbled upon what autism really is and maybe the much worshipped FLU vaccine is causing the symptoms of Parkinson&#039;s, Alzheimer&#039;s and Lou Gehrig&#039;s disease. And I would be willing to bet that&#039;s where chronic fatigue syndrome is coming from for you see we have always had a subset group that cannot dump heavy metals just do a google on Pinks disease it was one in five hundred children that contracted the disease Pinks which turned out to be mercury poisoning through teething powders
the next statements are from history and you could exchange the word pinks for autism and you would have today&#039;s headlines but these are from history
pink was affecting one in five hundred children.  It seems we had as the CDC puts it, a subset group that was vulnerable even back then.   It seems we are repeating history.  But unlike those children who got better and recovered,after the doctor.s reported the drug of choice was ch elating.   Today our children aren&#039;t given the same chance to get better.  The cure that was once used is now conveniently called anecdotal evidence.  If it worked then, it will work now.  If it was not dangerous then, it&#039;s not dangerous now.   Please look at this historical document entitled &quot;The rise and fall of Pink Disease&quot;.  And please keep in mind that pink disease was contracted through oral ingestion of Mercury.  Where as our children today are injected with Mercury.  Oral ingestion travels through the bodies organs that filters out Mercury.  And injected Mercury by-passes those filtering organs.  It seems the opponents and sceptics that grew old and disappeared from the scene are back and repeating history . . . 

In the article below just remove the word Pinks and insert the word Autism
and you will have today&#039;s disaster in a man made disease just like Pinks
was and today it is a very well accepted as to the origin of the disease is being mercury poisoning 

Wellcome Institute for the History of Medicine, London.

This paper explores the social and medical history and context of pink
disease (acrodynia), a serious disease of infants and young children
that baffled the medical world during the first half of the twentieth
century until it was shown to be caused by mercury poisoning. In the
English-speaking world the commonest source of the mercury was teething
powders, which were widely available and advertised with increasing
sophistication. Efforts to control them (such as the BMJ&#039;s campaign against
&#039;Secret Remedies&#039;) were as yet unsuccessful. The article discusses the
social conditions that influenced the existence and recognition of pink
disease, the delay in finding its cause, the way in which it was
explained as a virus infection or nutritional deficiency and why it seldom
occurred outside the teething period. It discusses both professional and
lay attitudes to health and diseases during the early twentieth century.
and provides a model of how the disease developed in a specific social
setting and how the medical profession attempted to deal with it within
the limitations of contemporary professional thought. The resistance
to the evidence of mercury poisoning is typical of resistance to new
medical knowledge and declined only when the opponents and sceptics grew
old and disappeared from the scene. Meanwhile, the cause having been
identified and accepted, pink disease disappeared, but its consequences
emerged much later, in an unexpected quarter, as a cause of male
infertility.

Publication Types: 
Historical Article

PMID: 11619497 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE

Heres proof of the history of chealation working to stop an epidemic
and the stupidy of the mainstream medical at large back then, It does appear that they have not gotten any brighter or maybe there just as 
greedy.

 [05/28/2000 1:44:08 AM](In fact, only 1 in 500 children exposed to the teething powders developed
the disease). In 1950 authoritative British medical opinion was still cautious
about the mercury hypothesis-an understandable caution, yet responsible, as
it turned out, for the prolongation of the epidemic, with uncountable cost in
human and financial terms, for several years later.
But slowly the evidence was stacking up against mercury. Dimercaprol
(British anti-Lewisite; BAL) is a chelating agent developed for military use
against possible gas attacks and in the 1950s was the standard treatment for
industrial mercury poisoning. Several physicians gave their pink disease
patients dimercaprol with gratifying cures. (The drug was never tested in a
proper controlled clinical trial as the disease disappeared before such a trial
could be organized.)
Warkany and Hubbard’s reports of an association between mercury
exposure and the disease was confirmed by several other workers, though
these later reports also noted that urinary mercury levels were often high in
healthy children too. In the rare cases of industrial mercury poisoning that
occurred, astute clinicians noted that in the recovery phase after the acute
illness, a condition indistinguishable from pink disease could be seen for a few
weeks. Clearly, if mercury was responsible for the disease, it could not be
simple poisoning, or all exposed children would suffer in a dose related
manner; the children who became ill must be excessively sensitive to the
poison (idiosyncrasy).
And there the matter rested at impasse between the mercury hypothesis
and the manufacturers of mercurials. In the absence of decisive evidence,
Parliament declined repeated calls to ban the products (although several states
in USA and Australia did so), and the disease remained a chronic and fearful
curse.
The impasse was finally broken in 1953 by Dr J G Dathan of
Stokes-on-Trent. Upset and incensed by the miserable deaths of 2 of his young
patients and refusing to certify the deaths as due to natural causes, he referred
the cases to the coroner. The scientific cases for and against the mercury
hypothesis were arrayed against each other in an English court of law-surely
an unusual setting for a scientific debate.
The jury found that the deaths were caused by mercury poisoning from
Steedman’s teething powder-in one case by frank overdose and in the other
because of unusual sensitivity of the child-and fearing litigation or
Parliamentary action the manufacturers immediately removed the mercury
from their preparations and recalled all old stocks.
The other manufacturers gradually followed suit. 3 years later, in
Sheffield, the intake of mercurials and the incidence of pink disease had both
dropped sharply and by 1966 Warkany, the originator of the mercury
hypothesis was able to write a final ‘post mortem’ article on pink disease in
the “American Journal of Diseases of Children”-a rare, but deserved accolade
for a dedicated (and lucky) medical scientist.
The story illustrates the difficulty of achieving change when doctors are confronted by powerful commercial interests, and finds an echo in the 1980s
in the continuing sagas of tobacco and lead. This is specially so when the
companies can muster 1 or 2 experts who will say that “the evidence is not yet
decisive”.
In truth it is still not proven beyond doubt that mercury caused pink
disease and it is still possible that an epidemic virus, now fortunately passed,
caused it. Of course, that explanation is very implausible and now that the
disease is departed no one is sufficiently interested to do more experiments. It
is also true that had the world had waited for 100% proof of cause and effect,
our children would probably still be ravaged by this dreadful, but preventable
disease.
It would be dishonest to close the pink disease story without one last
remark, though as scientists we are embarrassed to have to make it. Warkany
and Hubbard’s original 1948 study on urinary mercury were drawn from
Warkany’s own practice in Cincinnati where the disease was rare and where
teething powders were rarely used. Had the control urines been taken from
the geographical areas where patients came from, mercury would have been
found in several apparently normal, healthy children, thus making the
association far less striking. If Warkany and Hubbard had done a
scientifically impeccable trial, the cause might never have been noticed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom I am fixing to tear apart you little world that there is no scientific studies linking Thimerosal to autism just think of mitochondria dysfunction<br />
disorder google it and find that the very cause is toxins such as in vaccines  &#8220;Vaccinations contain at least four neuro-toxins: mercury, formaldehyde, MSG and aluminum hydroxide. Researchers at the University of British Columbia have been looking at the possible effects of the fourth item in this list. They injected mice with anthrax vaccine containing aluminum hydroxide. After 20 weeks studying the mice, the team found statistically significant increases in anxiety (38 percent); memory deficits (41 times more errors than the sample group); and allergic skin reaction (20 percent). On autopsy, brain tissue samples showed that 35 percent of the cells were in the process of destroying themselves. According to Chris Shaw, lead researcher for the project, his research shows a link between aluminum hydroxide and symptoms of Parkinson&#8217;s, Alzheimer&#8217;s and Lou Gehrig&#8217;s disease. &#8220;No one in my lab wants to get vaccinated,&#8221; he said. &#8220;This totally creeped us out. We weren&#8217;t out there to poke holes in vaccines. But all of a sudden, oh my God&#8211;we&#8217;ve got neuron death!&#8221; (www.straight.com/content/cfm?id=16717).<br />
According to Chris Shaw; lead researcher, his research shows a link between aluminum hydroxide and symptoms of Parkinson&#8217;s, Alzheimer&#8217;s and Lou Gehrig&#8217;s disease. &#8220;No one in my lab wants to get vaccinated. Just a thought, we could learn from this statement. From scientist’s that know, and not just those spouting CDC propaganda as most are. Who try to defend putting toxic chemicals in our children’s vaccines. Thimerosal turns into<br />
ethyl mercury then it enters the brain of the child and it metabolizes into inorganic mercury and research has shown that the most damaging to the mitochondria that depletes the glutathione is inorganic mercury monosodium glutamate (MSG, added to many Asian foods) I will bet MSG in children&#8217;s vaccines is far worse than indicated MSG  may also exacerbate a mitochondrial disorder. So Tom it seems that we may have stumbled upon what autism really is and maybe the much worshipped FLU vaccine is causing the symptoms of Parkinson&#8217;s, Alzheimer&#8217;s and Lou Gehrig&#8217;s disease. And I would be willing to bet that&#8217;s where chronic fatigue syndrome is coming from for you see we have always had a subset group that cannot dump heavy metals just do a google on Pinks disease it was one in five hundred children that contracted the disease Pinks which turned out to be mercury poisoning through teething powders<br />
the next statements are from history and you could exchange the word pinks for autism and you would have today&#8217;s headlines but these are from history<br />
pink was affecting one in five hundred children.  It seems we had as the CDC puts it, a subset group that was vulnerable even back then.   It seems we are repeating history.  But unlike those children who got better and recovered,after the doctor.s reported the drug of choice was ch elating.   Today our children aren&#8217;t given the same chance to get better.  The cure that was once used is now conveniently called anecdotal evidence.  If it worked then, it will work now.  If it was not dangerous then, it&#8217;s not dangerous now.   Please look at this historical document entitled &#8220;The rise and fall of Pink Disease&#8221;.  And please keep in mind that pink disease was contracted through oral ingestion of Mercury.  Where as our children today are injected with Mercury.  Oral ingestion travels through the bodies organs that filters out Mercury.  And injected Mercury by-passes those filtering organs.  It seems the opponents and sceptics that grew old and disappeared from the scene are back and repeating history . . . </p>
<p>In the article below just remove the word Pinks and insert the word Autism<br />
and you will have today&#8217;s disaster in a man made disease just like Pinks<br />
was and today it is a very well accepted as to the origin of the disease is being mercury poisoning </p>
<p>Wellcome Institute for the History of Medicine, London.</p>
<p>This paper explores the social and medical history and context of pink<br />
disease (acrodynia), a serious disease of infants and young children<br />
that baffled the medical world during the first half of the twentieth<br />
century until it was shown to be caused by mercury poisoning. In the<br />
English-speaking world the commonest source of the mercury was teething<br />
powders, which were widely available and advertised with increasing<br />
sophistication. Efforts to control them (such as the BMJ&#8217;s campaign against<br />
&#8216;Secret Remedies&#8217;) were as yet unsuccessful. The article discusses the<br />
social conditions that influenced the existence and recognition of pink<br />
disease, the delay in finding its cause, the way in which it was<br />
explained as a virus infection or nutritional deficiency and why it seldom<br />
occurred outside the teething period. It discusses both professional and<br />
lay attitudes to health and diseases during the early twentieth century.<br />
and provides a model of how the disease developed in a specific social<br />
setting and how the medical profession attempted to deal with it within<br />
the limitations of contemporary professional thought. The resistance<br />
to the evidence of mercury poisoning is typical of resistance to new<br />
medical knowledge and declined only when the opponents and sceptics grew<br />
old and disappeared from the scene. Meanwhile, the cause having been<br />
identified and accepted, pink disease disappeared, but its consequences<br />
emerged much later, in an unexpected quarter, as a cause of male<br />
infertility.</p>
<p>Publication Types:<br />
Historical Article</p>
<p>PMID: 11619497 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE</p>
<p>Heres proof of the history of chealation working to stop an epidemic<br />
and the stupidy of the mainstream medical at large back then, It does appear that they have not gotten any brighter or maybe there just as<br />
greedy.</p>
<p> [05/28/2000 1:44:08 AM](In fact, only 1 in 500 children exposed to the teething powders developed<br />
the disease). In 1950 authoritative British medical opinion was still cautious<br />
about the mercury hypothesis-an understandable caution, yet responsible, as<br />
it turned out, for the prolongation of the epidemic, with uncountable cost in<br />
human and financial terms, for several years later.<br />
But slowly the evidence was stacking up against mercury. Dimercaprol<br />
(British anti-Lewisite; BAL) is a chelating agent developed for military use<br />
against possible gas attacks and in the 1950s was the standard treatment for<br />
industrial mercury poisoning. Several physicians gave their pink disease<br />
patients dimercaprol with gratifying cures. (The drug was never tested in a<br />
proper controlled clinical trial as the disease disappeared before such a trial<br />
could be organized.)<br />
Warkany and Hubbard’s reports of an association between mercury<br />
exposure and the disease was confirmed by several other workers, though<br />
these later reports also noted that urinary mercury levels were often high in<br />
healthy children too. In the rare cases of industrial mercury poisoning that<br />
occurred, astute clinicians noted that in the recovery phase after the acute<br />
illness, a condition indistinguishable from pink disease could be seen for a few<br />
weeks. Clearly, if mercury was responsible for the disease, it could not be<br />
simple poisoning, or all exposed children would suffer in a dose related<br />
manner; the children who became ill must be excessively sensitive to the<br />
poison (idiosyncrasy).<br />
And there the matter rested at impasse between the mercury hypothesis<br />
and the manufacturers of mercurials. In the absence of decisive evidence,<br />
Parliament declined repeated calls to ban the products (although several states<br />
in USA and Australia did so), and the disease remained a chronic and fearful<br />
curse.<br />
The impasse was finally broken in 1953 by Dr J G Dathan of<br />
Stokes-on-Trent. Upset and incensed by the miserable deaths of 2 of his young<br />
patients and refusing to certify the deaths as due to natural causes, he referred<br />
the cases to the coroner. The scientific cases for and against the mercury<br />
hypothesis were arrayed against each other in an English court of law-surely<br />
an unusual setting for a scientific debate.<br />
The jury found that the deaths were caused by mercury poisoning from<br />
Steedman’s teething powder-in one case by frank overdose and in the other<br />
because of unusual sensitivity of the child-and fearing litigation or<br />
Parliamentary action the manufacturers immediately removed the mercury<br />
from their preparations and recalled all old stocks.<br />
The other manufacturers gradually followed suit. 3 years later, in<br />
Sheffield, the intake of mercurials and the incidence of pink disease had both<br />
dropped sharply and by 1966 Warkany, the originator of the mercury<br />
hypothesis was able to write a final ‘post mortem’ article on pink disease in<br />
the “American Journal of Diseases of Children”-a rare, but deserved accolade<br />
for a dedicated (and lucky) medical scientist.<br />
The story illustrates the difficulty of achieving change when doctors are confronted by powerful commercial interests, and finds an echo in the 1980s<br />
in the continuing sagas of tobacco and lead. This is specially so when the<br />
companies can muster 1 or 2 experts who will say that “the evidence is not yet<br />
decisive”.<br />
In truth it is still not proven beyond doubt that mercury caused pink<br />
disease and it is still possible that an epidemic virus, now fortunately passed,<br />
caused it. Of course, that explanation is very implausible and now that the<br />
disease is departed no one is sufficiently interested to do more experiments. It<br />
is also true that had the world had waited for 100% proof of cause and effect,<br />
our children would probably still be ravaged by this dreadful, but preventable<br />
disease.<br />
It would be dishonest to close the pink disease story without one last<br />
remark, though as scientists we are embarrassed to have to make it. Warkany<br />
and Hubbard’s original 1948 study on urinary mercury were drawn from<br />
Warkany’s own practice in Cincinnati where the disease was rare and where<br />
teething powders were rarely used. Had the control urines been taken from<br />
the geographical areas where patients came from, mercury would have been<br />
found in several apparently normal, healthy children, thus making the<br />
association far less striking. If Warkany and Hubbard had done a<br />
scientifically impeccable trial, the cause might never have been noticed.</p>
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		<description>This was written in 1953, and carried out and finished in 2008 

Russell being quoted as saying we would put mercury in vaccines, and other compounds to produce a partial lobotomized state, My thought &quot;this was done to control the masses.&quot; another thought is they did not anticipate the mercury from other sources AKA as coal fired plants and mothers body burden 
In the next statement that Russell makes, keep in mind the every child by two organization. And we wonder what happened to the kids.  &quot;Russell who advocated the use of vaccines to induce partial chemical lobotomies and create a servile zombie population,&quot;Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.&quot; - Bertrand Russell, “The Impact of Science on Society”, 1953, pg 49-50  1953.  Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society: &quot;...the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology.... The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician’s paradise.”11     I wrote this minister because a family was not able to go to church any more because the child was banned, because he was spitting and hitting other people basically acting like an animal.    Just like my child and many more hundreds of thousands around the U.S. while the CDC says it&#039;s just better Diag. and greater awareness as our schools go broke, by the way my son was just Diag 3 yr&#039;s ago he is now 18 yr&#039;s old, one of the signs of metal toxicity is excessive saliva and agression. I am not saying that most of the main stream medical community believed in this mind set of a step ford society but someone must have, because they ignored many warnings of toxicity and inefficacy and we find in 2008 they did exactly what he said they would do This was written in 1953 and the current main stream medical community has followed it like a recipe.    The people who wanted a kind of step-ford society did not anticipate the mothers body burden of mercury or coal powered plants emitting mercury.  This caused a toxic tipping point and 1 in 6 kids having a neurological learning disorder 1 - 150 children with autism 1 in 92 being boys. In MN the numbers are worse 1 - 82 children 1 - 20 something boys interestingly a  4  - 1 ratio boys to girls guess what shares a  4 - 1 ratio also mercury poisoning. As of recent a report came out saying that girls are leading boys in higher math and science and can you guess at what Ratio 4 - 1 sound familar mercury poisoning 4 - 1 Ratio boys to girls and If you cannot figure out this is truth! and what they the FDA CDC did, then it is very possible you have gotten to much mercury too.

We cannot change the fact, that the book was written, and he said it and they did it sincerely Joe Harris    Dad of a very sick in body, child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was written in 1953, and carried out and finished in 2008 </p>
<p>Russell being quoted as saying we would put mercury in vaccines, and other compounds to produce a partial lobotomized state, My thought &#8220;this was done to control the masses.&#8221; another thought is they did not anticipate the mercury from other sources AKA as coal fired plants and mothers body burden<br />
In the next statement that Russell makes, keep in mind the every child by two organization. And we wonder what happened to the kids.  &#8220;Russell who advocated the use of vaccines to induce partial chemical lobotomies and create a servile zombie population,&#8221;Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.&#8221; &#8211; Bertrand Russell, “The Impact of Science on Society”, 1953, pg 49-50  1953.  Bertrand Russell, The Impact of Science on Society: &#8220;&#8230;the subject which will be of most importance politically is Mass Psychology&#8230;. The populace will not be allowed to know how its convictions were generated. When the technique has been perfected, every government that has been in charge of education for a generation will be able to control its subjects securely without the need of armies or policemen. As yet there is only one country which has succeeded in creating this politician’s paradise.”11     I wrote this minister because a family was not able to go to church any more because the child was banned, because he was spitting and hitting other people basically acting like an animal.    Just like my child and many more hundreds of thousands around the U.S. while the CDC says it&#8217;s just better Diag. and greater awareness as our schools go broke, by the way my son was just Diag 3 yr&#8217;s ago he is now 18 yr&#8217;s old, one of the signs of metal toxicity is excessive saliva and agression. I am not saying that most of the main stream medical community believed in this mind set of a step ford society but someone must have, because they ignored many warnings of toxicity and inefficacy and we find in 2008 they did exactly what he said they would do This was written in 1953 and the current main stream medical community has followed it like a recipe.    The people who wanted a kind of step-ford society did not anticipate the mothers body burden of mercury or coal powered plants emitting mercury.  This caused a toxic tipping point and 1 in 6 kids having a neurological learning disorder 1 &#8211; 150 children with autism 1 in 92 being boys. In MN the numbers are worse 1 &#8211; 82 children 1 &#8211; 20 something boys interestingly a  4  &#8211; 1 ratio boys to girls guess what shares a  4 &#8211; 1 ratio also mercury poisoning. As of recent a report came out saying that girls are leading boys in higher math and science and can you guess at what Ratio 4 &#8211; 1 sound familar mercury poisoning 4 &#8211; 1 Ratio boys to girls and If you cannot figure out this is truth! and what they the FDA CDC did, then it is very possible you have gotten to much mercury too.</p>
<p>We cannot change the fact, that the book was written, and he said it and they did it sincerely Joe Harris    Dad of a very sick in body, child.</p>
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		<dc:creator>joe harris</dc:creator>
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		<description>Dr. Engley set the record straight just before he died these are his words  Dr. Engley was reported as saying on an KOMU article that &quot;if they had followed through on our 82 report the vaccines would have been freed of thimerosal and all this autism they tell me would not have occurred&quot; A man that passed with a clear conscience and did what he could to stop the mass poisoning of our children, can you say the same? this was written to a Dr. Post  Dr. Post this is proof they knew that the preservative was not effective as a antimicrobial and very toxic also.  Please note Dr. Engleys vast amount credentials. Dr. Post I wrote this to a reporter I am forwarding it to you Please note, I know my letter writing is not very good, but I do get the point across please read all the way to the bottom.  How can you not act as a journalist with information this damming, the children suffer from the lack of integrity in journalist and researchers on this very important issue.  I will not apologize for writing this to you because you have a duty to the American children and also to my son who deserves respect, and burying your head in the sand on this issue is not going to get the job done. Sincerely Joe Harris Dad of a very severely mercury poisoned child with labs to prove it.   From  (( lab core )) The problem that exist with mercury will not go away until mercury is no longer used in the manufacturing process, machine cleaning and in some vaccines at the full 25 micrograms including the flu shot which over half of pregnant women and children 6 months and over receive.  This is the man and his credentials who the CDC says we are supposed to ignore It was mentioned earlier that Dr. Frank Engley studied thimerosal as far back as 1942. Dr. Engley is responsible for the 4 year School of Medicine at the University of Missouri. He has consulted for the CDC, IOM, NASA, FDA, EPA, CIA, AAMI, USP, Armed Forces Epidemiological boards, Army, Navy, Air Force as well as Director of research grants and training grants for NIH. Engley Served on the Council of the NIH Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease and a consultant on many Epidemiological Boards too many to list. Dr. Engley has been a visiting Professor in over 40 foreign countries medical schools. He has produced films, written text books, Laboratory Manuals, over 100 publications, served on editorial boards for numerous scientific journals and periodicals, including four American, two British and one German. Engley is certified by the American Board of Micro Biology and served as the Chair of the Laboratory of American Public Health Association. He has been listed in American Men and Women of Science, Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in American Education, Who’s Who among Consultants and Who’s Who in the World. His toxicity studies of mercurials in human tissue culture revealed the mercurials were extremely toxic for human cells and the Thimerosal -- the most active, toxic down to the nanogram. The amounts of mercury have gone down but vaccines still have 100 times that amount when they are in preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. Something I wrote responding to an article   They knew that Thimerosal was neither efficacious nor safe in 1948Dr. Morton of the Department of Bacteriology, University of 
Pennsylvania 
School of Medicine, Dr. North of the Philadelphia General Hospital, 
and Mr. 
Engley of Camp Detrick under a grant from the Council of Pharmacy and 
Chemistry, American Medical Association have published an article in 
the Journal of the American Medical Association.This was when drugs came in little white boxes, no hype no pay offs 
and Dr&#039;s, Scientist, senators and Congressman&#039;s, journalist had impeccable integrity.See today&#039;s headlines on Merck ! and ghost written research signed off by  crooked well known physicians.  Seems every month we hear of a drug
that&#039;s killing or maiming Americans that was OK ed ! by the FDA. and we are worried about our financial agency&#039;s,  Senators and Congressman calling
for their dismantling. Where are they in this important issue Oh! I know 
most are in the pockets of pharma. you see if it&#039;s a campaign contribution
it can&#039;t be a bribe, so they think. Remember the flu shots that were bad, thimerosal did not work then and 
that was the easiest bacterial contaminant to kill, it could not even do the job.  And looking at this, we now know why ,as there research was 
showing us  it was worthless and dangerous. &quot;It is clear from this research supported by a grant from the American 
Medical Association that Thimerosal is neither efficacious nor safe, 
and 
should be removed as a preservative in prescription biologics and 
pharmaceutical products, as well as from topical over-the-counter 
products 
such as Butt-Balm that have Thimerosal present in their formulations 
as an 
active ingredient.&quot; There was an interim plan in the 80&#039;s to get rid of thimerosal this came out at Congressman Burtons hearing on thimerosal. Dr. Engley was reported as saying on an KOMU article that &quot;If they had followed through on our 82 report the vaccines would have been freed of thimerosal and all this autism they tell me would not have occurred&quot; THEY DESTROYED OUR CHILDREN FOR NO BENEFIT NOT TO MENTION BEING WARNED BY 
Dr. Engley and other Scientist with integrity.  This is their findings of toxicity &quot;We found thimerosal is toxic down to a level that is almost unbelievable. Down to 1.10, maybe 100 nanograms...a millionth of a gram and that is about as toxic as you can get,&quot; he said.&quot; But the FDA, and the CDC did not listen.  200 PPB is liquid toxic waste the children from the 90&#039;s, some received 32,500 Parts Per Billion at one setting on one day. And you wonder what happened to the kids. &quot;Dr. Frank Engley is a retired chairman and professor of Microbiology at the University of Missouri. He served on various committees and panels and has consulted for the CDC, NASA, the FDA, and EPA. He did some of the first research on the toxicity of thimerosal.** It should be noted that this article was published in the January 
1948 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association
## It should be noted that this article was published in 1950 in the 
Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences   I would like to thank you for your statement, of your concern of your patients sincerely Joe Harris  Dad of a very sick in body, child we will end this only when we take this out of the hands of the psychologist and put it in the hands of Dr&#039;s who are better able to treat the body of these very sick children THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!for calling me back it&#039;s a start in the right direction for all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Engley set the record straight just before he died these are his words  Dr. Engley was reported as saying on an KOMU article that &#8220;if they had followed through on our 82 report the vaccines would have been freed of thimerosal and all this autism they tell me would not have occurred&#8221; A man that passed with a clear conscience and did what he could to stop the mass poisoning of our children, can you say the same? this was written to a Dr. Post  Dr. Post this is proof they knew that the preservative was not effective as a antimicrobial and very toxic also.  Please note Dr. Engleys vast amount credentials. Dr. Post I wrote this to a reporter I am forwarding it to you Please note, I know my letter writing is not very good, but I do get the point across please read all the way to the bottom.  How can you not act as a journalist with information this damming, the children suffer from the lack of integrity in journalist and researchers on this very important issue.  I will not apologize for writing this to you because you have a duty to the American children and also to my son who deserves respect, and burying your head in the sand on this issue is not going to get the job done. Sincerely Joe Harris Dad of a very severely mercury poisoned child with labs to prove it.   From  (( lab core )) The problem that exist with mercury will not go away until mercury is no longer used in the manufacturing process, machine cleaning and in some vaccines at the full 25 micrograms including the flu shot which over half of pregnant women and children 6 months and over receive.  This is the man and his credentials who the CDC says we are supposed to ignore It was mentioned earlier that Dr. Frank Engley studied thimerosal as far back as 1942. Dr. Engley is responsible for the 4 year School of Medicine at the University of Missouri. He has consulted for the CDC, IOM, NASA, FDA, EPA, CIA, AAMI, USP, Armed Forces Epidemiological boards, Army, Navy, Air Force as well as Director of research grants and training grants for NIH. Engley Served on the Council of the NIH Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease and a consultant on many Epidemiological Boards too many to list. Dr. Engley has been a visiting Professor in over 40 foreign countries medical schools. He has produced films, written text books, Laboratory Manuals, over 100 publications, served on editorial boards for numerous scientific journals and periodicals, including four American, two British and one German. Engley is certified by the American Board of Micro Biology and served as the Chair of the Laboratory of American Public Health Association. He has been listed in American Men and Women of Science, Who’s Who in America, Who’s Who in American Education, Who’s Who among Consultants and Who’s Who in the World. His toxicity studies of mercurials in human tissue culture revealed the mercurials were extremely toxic for human cells and the Thimerosal &#8212; the most active, toxic down to the nanogram. The amounts of mercury have gone down but vaccines still have 100 times that amount when they are in preservative free and reduced thimerosal vaccines. Something I wrote responding to an article   They knew that Thimerosal was neither efficacious nor safe in 1948Dr. Morton of the Department of Bacteriology, University of<br />
Pennsylvania<br />
School of Medicine, Dr. North of the Philadelphia General Hospital,<br />
and Mr.<br />
Engley of Camp Detrick under a grant from the Council of Pharmacy and<br />
Chemistry, American Medical Association have published an article in<br />
the Journal of the American Medical Association.This was when drugs came in little white boxes, no hype no pay offs<br />
and Dr&#8217;s, Scientist, senators and Congressman&#8217;s, journalist had impeccable integrity.See today&#8217;s headlines on Merck ! and ghost written research signed off by  crooked well known physicians.  Seems every month we hear of a drug<br />
that&#8217;s killing or maiming Americans that was OK ed ! by the FDA. and we are worried about our financial agency&#8217;s,  Senators and Congressman calling<br />
for their dismantling. Where are they in this important issue Oh! I know<br />
most are in the pockets of pharma. you see if it&#8217;s a campaign contribution<br />
it can&#8217;t be a bribe, so they think. Remember the flu shots that were bad, thimerosal did not work then and<br />
that was the easiest bacterial contaminant to kill, it could not even do the job.  And looking at this, we now know why ,as there research was<br />
showing us  it was worthless and dangerous. &#8220;It is clear from this research supported by a grant from the American<br />
Medical Association that Thimerosal is neither efficacious nor safe,<br />
and<br />
should be removed as a preservative in prescription biologics and<br />
pharmaceutical products, as well as from topical over-the-counter<br />
products<br />
such as Butt-Balm that have Thimerosal present in their formulations<br />
as an<br />
active ingredient.&#8221; There was an interim plan in the 80&#8217;s to get rid of thimerosal this came out at Congressman Burtons hearing on thimerosal. Dr. Engley was reported as saying on an KOMU article that &#8220;If they had followed through on our 82 report the vaccines would have been freed of thimerosal and all this autism they tell me would not have occurred&#8221; THEY DESTROYED OUR CHILDREN FOR NO BENEFIT NOT TO MENTION BEING WARNED BY<br />
Dr. Engley and other Scientist with integrity.  This is their findings of toxicity &#8220;We found thimerosal is toxic down to a level that is almost unbelievable. Down to 1.10, maybe 100 nanograms&#8230;a millionth of a gram and that is about as toxic as you can get,&#8221; he said.&#8221; But the FDA, and the CDC did not listen.  200 PPB is liquid toxic waste the children from the 90&#8217;s, some received 32,500 Parts Per Billion at one setting on one day. And you wonder what happened to the kids. &#8220;Dr. Frank Engley is a retired chairman and professor of Microbiology at the University of Missouri. He served on various committees and panels and has consulted for the CDC, NASA, the FDA, and EPA. He did some of the first research on the toxicity of thimerosal.** It should be noted that this article was published in the January<br />
1948 issue of the Journal of the American Medical Association<br />
## It should be noted that this article was published in 1950 in the<br />
Annals of the New York Academy of Sciences   I would like to thank you for your statement, of your concern of your patients sincerely Joe Harris  Dad of a very sick in body, child we will end this only when we take this out of the hands of the psychologist and put it in the hands of Dr&#8217;s who are better able to treat the body of these very sick children THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!for calling me back it&#8217;s a start in the right direction for all of us.</p>
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