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	<title>Comments on: UK to close Jodrell Bank?</title>
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		<title>By: Dave So</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave So</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what I think about the Royal bank of scotland. RBS boss Fred goodwin should be stripped of the pension he doesn&#039;t deserve. If they pay him a profit related percentage he will get minus figures. Taking away his pension is the best option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what I think about the Royal bank of scotland. RBS boss Fred goodwin should be stripped of the pension he doesn&#8217;t deserve. If they pay him a profit related percentage he will get minus figures. Taking away his pension is the best option.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-96570</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 12:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Eric&lt;/strong&gt;

The most comprehensive info I have found on this subject on the net. Will be back soon to follow up.</description>
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<p>The most comprehensive info I have found on this subject on the net. Will be back soon to follow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom D</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75039</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 01:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scary stuff. The comments over at The Register (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/06/stfc_radio_astronomy/comments/) are worth a read. There is the suggestion that the STFC is calling the government&#039;s bluff - knowing that Jodrell Bank is high profile, threatening it&#039;s closure draws public attention to their plight in a way in which closing a few minor projects down wouldn&#039;t. I certainly hope so anyway</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scary stuff. The comments over at The Register (<a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/06/stfc_radio_astronomy/comments/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/06/stfc_radio_astronomy/comments/</a>) are worth a read. There is the suggestion that the STFC is calling the government&#8217;s bluff &#8211; knowing that Jodrell Bank is high profile, threatening it&#8217;s closure draws public attention to their plight in a way in which closing a few minor projects down wouldn&#8217;t. I certainly hope so anyway</p>
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		<title>By: Mentionable</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75038</link>
		<dc:creator>Mentionable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 10:06:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quoteth # Tomon 07 Mar 2008 at 12:53 am

&quot;(if you’re reading this and are British, I should have mentioned…)&#039;

Yes indeed .. Mentioned what?

That only UK residents can sign? Or is there something else?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quoteth # Tomon 07 Mar 2008 at 12:53 am</p>
<p>&#8220;(if you’re reading this and are British, I should have mentioned…)&#8217;</p>
<p>Yes indeed .. Mentioned what?</p>
<p>That only UK residents can sign? Or is there something else?</p>
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		<title>By: Source quotes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Source quotes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the petition site linked above :

&quot;You must be a British citizen or resident to sign the petition.

Your address (will not be published): ...

UK postcode: ...

Or, if you&#039;re an expatriate, you&#039;re in an overseas territory, a Crown dependency or in the Armed Forces without a postcode, please select from this list:  -- Select -- Expatriate Armed Forces Anguilla Ascension Island Bermuda British Antarctic Territory British Indian Ocean Territory British Virgin Islands Cayman Islands Channel Islands Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Montserrat Pitcairn Island St Helena S. Georgia and the S. Sandwich Islands Tristan da Cunha Turks and Caicos Islands ..&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the petition site linked above :</p>
<p>&#8220;You must be a British citizen or resident to sign the petition.</p>
<p>Your address (will not be published): &#8230;</p>
<p>UK postcode: &#8230;</p>
<p>Or, if you&#8217;re an expatriate, you&#8217;re in an overseas territory, a Crown dependency or in the Armed Forces without a postcode, please select from this list:  &#8212; Select &#8212; Expatriate Armed Forces Anguilla Ascension Island Bermuda British Antarctic Territory British Indian Ocean Territory British Virgin Islands Cayman Islands Channel Islands Falkland Islands Gibraltar Isle of Man Montserrat Pitcairn Island St Helena S. Georgia and the S. Sandwich Islands Tristan da Cunha Turks and Caicos Islands ..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75036</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 09:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Said # Tom on 07 Mar 2008 at 12:52 am

&quot;Help out by signing the petition to save Jodrell Bank on the UK government’s petitions site:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/jodrellfunding/

(there’s actually 3 but this had the most most votes on last check - democracy in action… the power diluted over 3 identical arguments  )&quot;

... Er Tom - I ain&#039;t a British resident or citizen so I can&#039;t sign that one. :-(

Please, could you -or anyone - post the links to the others here esp. if one of tehm is open to the whole global range rather than just one nation .. (Or three but I&#039;ve gone into enough detail with Palestine so I&#039;ll spare folks the case for Scotland separating!)

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 F - R -  E - E -E - E - E - E- D - O - M !!!!!

- William Wallace (As quoted by Mel Gibson!) ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said # Tom on 07 Mar 2008 at 12:52 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Help out by signing the petition to save Jodrell Bank on the UK government’s petitions site:</p>
<p><a href="http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/jodrellfunding/" rel="nofollow">http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/jodrellfunding/</a></p>
<p>(there’s actually 3 but this had the most most votes on last check &#8211; democracy in action… the power diluted over 3 identical arguments  )&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; Er Tom &#8211; I ain&#8217;t a British resident or citizen so I can&#8217;t sign that one. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Please, could you -or anyone &#8211; post the links to the others here esp. if one of tehm is open to the whole global range rather than just one nation .. (Or three but I&#8217;ve gone into enough detail with Palestine so I&#8217;ll spare folks the case for Scotland separating!)</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
 F &#8211; R &#8211;  E &#8211; E -E &#8211; E &#8211; E &#8211; E- D &#8211; O &#8211; M !!!!!</p>
<p>- William Wallace (As quoted by Mel Gibson!) <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cusp</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75035</link>
		<dc:creator>Cusp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[the scientists at JB have already moved to the alan turing building in manchester]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[the scientists at JB have already moved to the alan turing building in manchester]</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75034</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyhow, I&#039;ll sign the Save Jodrell Bank petition too.

I love them &amp; what they&#039;ve done too.

Awful, tragic waste to cut it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyhow, I&#8217;ll sign the Save Jodrell Bank petition too.</p>
<p>I love them &amp; what they&#8217;ve done too.</p>
<p>Awful, tragic waste to cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75033</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Imagine what NASA could do with a quarter of the money wasted on giving Israeli’s the capability to make life ever more worse for the people of Palestine esp. Gaza?&quot;

... Or just murdering them. :-(

Despite what your &#039;Apocalyptic Christians for Israel&#039;  &amp; &#039;Israel-is-always-Right&#039; neocons lobbies falsely say any intelligent and objective examination of the situation will show that the Palestineans are &quot;far more sinned against than sinning&quot; as Shakespeare may put things.

Sure, they are not perfect. But they too do have the right to self defence, to live freely and in peace and their civil liberties,human rights and lives have suffered far more, for far longer than their Jewish rival claimants to that troublesome stretch of Levantine coast.

Its about time the USA really woke up to that basic truth and reacted accordingly. We won&#039;t get peace until the Palestineans plight is justly rather than unjustly addressed by the Western world. This is what the whole Islamic world -Western world conlfict stems from ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Imagine what NASA could do with a quarter of the money wasted on giving Israeli’s the capability to make life ever more worse for the people of Palestine esp. Gaza?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; Or just murdering them. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Despite what your &#8216;Apocalyptic Christians for Israel&#8217;  &amp; &#8216;Israel-is-always-Right&#8217; neocons lobbies falsely say any intelligent and objective examination of the situation will show that the Palestineans are &#8220;far more sinned against than sinning&#8221; as Shakespeare may put things.</p>
<p>Sure, they are not perfect. But they too do have the right to self defence, to live freely and in peace and their civil liberties,human rights and lives have suffered far more, for far longer than their Jewish rival claimants to that troublesome stretch of Levantine coast.</p>
<p>Its about time the USA really woke up to that basic truth and reacted accordingly. We won&#8217;t get peace until the Palestineans plight is justly rather than unjustly addressed by the Western world. This is what the whole Islamic world -Western world conlfict stems from &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75032</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As for sport, I reckon it probably gets about enough funding - maybe even too much. Although it would be good to see Americans investing in learning how to play cricket! ;-)

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- Invade other planets (&amp; asteroids and comets), NOT other nations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As for sport, I reckon it probably gets about enough funding &#8211; maybe even too much. Although it would be good to see Americans investing in learning how to play cricket! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>- Invade other planets (&amp; asteroids and comets), NOT other nations!</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75031</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrote # Todd on 06 Mar 2008 at 10:04 am

&quot;It’s high-school economics: which do you cut first, sports or the arts?&quot;

Sport! ;-)

But first I&#039;d cut the huge overspending on the Military-Industrial complex.

A fraction of the money saved there can go on funding better diplomacy so we&#039;re not involved in needless wars anymore. Also why the hell should Israel be getting half of America&#039;s budget?

Lets get our priorities right!

Give that money to science instead - imagine what NASA could do with a quarter of the money wasted on giving Israeli&#039;s the capability to make life ever more worse for the people of Palestine?

Take money out of the military, out of the hands of the richest elite CEO&#039;s &amp; aristocrats who all got that way by hurting everyone else ...

 ... &amp; give it to the people who make everyones life better -doctors, scientists, nurses, teachers,small businessfolk etc .. Fund health, education, science and take that money from the military, political and religious monsters who&#039;ve wasted too much, for too little, for too long, to the detriment of all of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrote # Todd on 06 Mar 2008 at 10:04 am</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s high-school economics: which do you cut first, sports or the arts?&#8221;</p>
<p>Sport! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But first I&#8217;d cut the huge overspending on the Military-Industrial complex.</p>
<p>A fraction of the money saved there can go on funding better diplomacy so we&#8217;re not involved in needless wars anymore. Also why the hell should Israel be getting half of America&#8217;s budget?</p>
<p>Lets get our priorities right!</p>
<p>Give that money to science instead &#8211; imagine what NASA could do with a quarter of the money wasted on giving Israeli&#8217;s the capability to make life ever more worse for the people of Palestine?</p>
<p>Take money out of the military, out of the hands of the richest elite CEO&#8217;s &amp; aristocrats who all got that way by hurting everyone else &#8230;</p>
<p> &#8230; &amp; give it to the people who make everyones life better -doctors, scientists, nurses, teachers,small businessfolk etc .. Fund health, education, science and take that money from the military, political and religious monsters who&#8217;ve wasted too much, for too little, for too long, to the detriment of all of us.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrannicide's solution - Dubya's the prob'm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75030</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrannicide's solution - Dubya's the prob'm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometime soon the USA - &amp; the wider Western world - should ask itself if its worth destroying our entire civilisation to temporarily enable the imposition of a brutal military-theocratic state of Jewish fundamentalists in a region where they are simply never going to be welcome. :-(

My suggestion - shift Israel to New York &amp; leave the Muslim world alone in peace.

That&#039;s the sure-fire way to win the current needless war for everyone - except those child-murdering Israeli settlers - but their loss is the planets gain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometime soon the USA &#8211; &amp; the wider Western world &#8211; should ask itself if its worth destroying our entire civilisation to temporarily enable the imposition of a brutal military-theocratic state of Jewish fundamentalists in a region where they are simply never going to be welcome. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My suggestion &#8211; shift Israel to New York &amp; leave the Muslim world alone in peace.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the sure-fire way to win the current needless war for everyone &#8211; except those child-murdering Israeli settlers &#8211; but their loss is the planets gain.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75029</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(if you&#039;re reading this and are British, I should have mentioned...)</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75028</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help out by signing the petition to save Jodrell Bank on the UK government&#039;s petitions site:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/jodrellfunding/

(there&#039;s actually 3 but this had the most most votes on last check - democracy in action... the power diluted over 3 identical arguments ;) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Help out by signing the petition to save Jodrell Bank on the UK government&#8217;s petitions site:</p>
<p><a href="http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/jodrellfunding/" rel="nofollow">http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/jodrellfunding/</a></p>
<p>(there&#8217;s actually 3 but this had the most most votes on last check &#8211; democracy in action&#8230; the power diluted over 3 identical arguments <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrannicide's solution - Dubya's the prob'm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75027</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrannicide's solution - Dubya's the prob'm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gyyaaahh! *&amp;*(*^&amp;*@!! typos.

Corrected paragraph :

&quot;Absolutely. Cut the money wasted by having troops in Iraq &amp; Afghanistan, declare the nonsensical &quot;War of Terror” over - by admitting it
was a dumb idea to begin with and stop wasting zillions on funding ex-Pms like Tony Blair, the Royal in-bred family and other parasites.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gyyaaahh! *&amp;*(*^&amp;*@!! typos.</p>
<p>Corrected paragraph :</p>
<p>&#8220;Absolutely. Cut the money wasted by having troops in Iraq &amp; Afghanistan, declare the nonsensical &#8220;War of Terror” over &#8211; by admitting it<br />
was a dumb idea to begin with and stop wasting zillions on funding ex-Pms like Tony Blair, the Royal in-bred family and other parasites.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tryrannicaide solution - Dubya the prob'm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tryrannicaide solution - Dubya the prob'm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BA wrote :

&quot;I will 100% absolutely guarantee that in the UK, there are better programs to shut down that cost a lot more money than Jordrell Bank does.&quot;

Absolutely. Cut the money wasted by having troops in Iraq &amp;Afghanistan, sdecalre tehnonsensical War onTerror&quot; over -byadmitting itwasa dumb idea tobeginwith and stop wastingzillions on ex-Pms like Tony Blair, theRoyal family and other parasites.

America could save trillions of dolars and put them to so much better and  ultimately worthwhile scientific and socio-cultural use (eg. national health &amp; education)  by :

- Getting the heck outta other nations!
Eg. Iraq, Afghnaistan, Cuba,Saudi Arabia, etc ..

- Leaving other nations the heck alone &amp; not threatening to invade them! Eg. Iran, practically the whole of the South West Asian-Islamic world region, Latin, Southand Central America

- NOT funding, arming and supporting its nastiest allies  &amp; esp. Israel so they transparently do its dirty work for it  - &amp; stop funding the Jewish fundamentalist state inits warof occupation in Palestine. (That alone is where about half the US budget goes - to Israel!)

- Demilitarise and de-escalate the aggro rhetoric, let other nations be other nations, Israel has the right to defend itself sure - Yet so too does Palestine, so too does Iran, Syria, Taiwan, Russia and China and ...  well ..everywhere. The best thing is to NOT NEED defending by getting along with other nations peacefully. Itsalso chepaer inmoney &amp; lives

&amp;

- Change your electoral system and government system to a cheaper, faster and better one. Like Australia&#039;s or Ireland&#039;s or Sweden&#039;s -these are the world&#039;s real model democracies. Rather than your overly long, horrendously costly, needlessly complex system maybe try electing a few people from various backgrounds along jury selectionmethods. Maybe justgo toa proportional, preferential votingsyetm. Abolish or revamp that useless electoral colledge and let the people vote directly ..

Just some suggestions! ;-)

Just think how much could be saved by scrapping the occupations of Iraq and Palestine alone - &amp; not just in money. :-(

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&#039;Since it is impossible to coerce thought, the way to social harmony is to discuss conflict and pursue truth; the more people speak their minds freely, the more they are likely to be loyal citizens.&#039;
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<p>&#8220;I will 100% absolutely guarantee that in the UK, there are better programs to shut down that cost a lot more money than Jordrell Bank does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely. Cut the money wasted by having troops in Iraq &amp;Afghanistan, sdecalre tehnonsensical War onTerror&#8221; over -byadmitting itwasa dumb idea tobeginwith and stop wastingzillions on ex-Pms like Tony Blair, theRoyal family and other parasites.</p>
<p>America could save trillions of dolars and put them to so much better and  ultimately worthwhile scientific and socio-cultural use (eg. national health &amp; education)  by :</p>
<p>- Getting the heck outta other nations!<br />
Eg. Iraq, Afghnaistan, Cuba,Saudi Arabia, etc ..</p>
<p>- Leaving other nations the heck alone &amp; not threatening to invade them! Eg. Iran, practically the whole of the South West Asian-Islamic world region, Latin, Southand Central America</p>
<p>- NOT funding, arming and supporting its nastiest allies  &amp; esp. Israel so they transparently do its dirty work for it  &#8211; &amp; stop funding the Jewish fundamentalist state inits warof occupation in Palestine. (That alone is where about half the US budget goes &#8211; to Israel!)</p>
<p>- Demilitarise and de-escalate the aggro rhetoric, let other nations be other nations, Israel has the right to defend itself sure &#8211; Yet so too does Palestine, so too does Iran, Syria, Taiwan, Russia and China and &#8230;  well ..everywhere. The best thing is to NOT NEED defending by getting along with other nations peacefully. Itsalso chepaer inmoney &amp; lives</p>
<p>&amp;</p>
<p>- Change your electoral system and government system to a cheaper, faster and better one. Like Australia&#8217;s or Ireland&#8217;s or Sweden&#8217;s -these are the world&#8217;s real model democracies. Rather than your overly long, horrendously costly, needlessly complex system maybe try electing a few people from various backgrounds along jury selectionmethods. Maybe justgo toa proportional, preferential votingsyetm. Abolish or revamp that useless electoral colledge and let the people vote directly ..</p>
<p>Just some suggestions! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Just think how much could be saved by scrapping the occupations of Iraq and Palestine alone &#8211; &amp; not just in money. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>&#8216;Since it is impossible to coerce thought, the way to social harmony is to discuss conflict and pursue truth; the more people speak their minds freely, the more they are likely to be loyal citizens.&#8217;<br />
– Jewish Dutch 17th C philosopher, B. Spinoza.</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75025</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot more information about the current astronomy funding situation in the UK available via sites such as http://www.saveastronomy.org.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot more information about the current astronomy funding situation in the UK available via sites such as <a href="http://www.saveastronomy.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.saveastronomy.org.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: News &#187; UK May Shut Down Jodrell Bank Observatory</title>
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		<dc:creator>News &#187; UK May Shut Down Jodrell Bank Observatory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bank observatory may shut down according to a UK funding proposal (via Bad Astronomy). The observatory is comprised of several radio telescopes including Lovell, the third largest [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Bank observatory may shut down according to a UK funding proposal (via Bad Astronomy). The observatory is comprised of several radio telescopes including Lovell, the third largest [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rho</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75023</link>
		<dc:creator>rho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s depressing. The Jodrell Bank visitor&#039;s centre was my first exposure to astronomy, any many years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s depressing. The Jodrell Bank visitor&#8217;s centre was my first exposure to astronomy, any many years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75019</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be surprised if the UK follows the US lead in everything ... Iraq and Afghanistan are notable examples of British compliability to US wants.
The same is true at the level of the &quot;woo woo&quot; merchants.

Religious fundamentalism in the UK aped the US explosion (on a more conservative, British scale, of course) - an evil tide that, thankfully, seems at last to be in recession.

Public appreciation of science has followed this lapse into the medievil mindset.  If an easy, nonsense explanation can be applied to any given event, it will be.  The scientific explanation is just &quot;too hard&quot; for the average Joe to grasp, they imagine.

Politicians appeal to the lowest common denominator in democratic nations.  So we&#039;re stuck - you have to slow down and run with the slowest if you want democracy.  Observatories are an example of the type of institution the voters don&#039;t understand, so they&#039;re gone!

If a nuclear bomb exploded above the Irish Sea the British tabloids would lead with a Britney story.  Why?  Because that is the level the public are comfortable with.  Forget the toxic cloud of radioactivty about to fall.  That is the extent to which scientific appreciation has stooped among the UK population.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be surprised if the UK follows the US lead in everything &#8230; Iraq and Afghanistan are notable examples of British compliability to US wants.<br />
The same is true at the level of the &#8220;woo woo&#8221; merchants.</p>
<p>Religious fundamentalism in the UK aped the US explosion (on a more conservative, British scale, of course) &#8211; an evil tide that, thankfully, seems at last to be in recession.</p>
<p>Public appreciation of science has followed this lapse into the medievil mindset.  If an easy, nonsense explanation can be applied to any given event, it will be.  The scientific explanation is just &#8220;too hard&#8221; for the average Joe to grasp, they imagine.</p>
<p>Politicians appeal to the lowest common denominator in democratic nations.  So we&#8217;re stuck &#8211; you have to slow down and run with the slowest if you want democracy.  Observatories are an example of the type of institution the voters don&#8217;t understand, so they&#8217;re gone!</p>
<p>If a nuclear bomb exploded above the Irish Sea the British tabloids would lead with a Britney story.  Why?  Because that is the level the public are comfortable with.  Forget the toxic cloud of radioactivty about to fall.  That is the extent to which scientific appreciation has stooped among the UK population.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75022</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the stupidity is spreading, I&#039;m afraid it&#039;s travelled around the world.

In New Zealand the government commissioned a report that recommended the National Observatory be transferred from Wellington&#039;s Carter Observatory to Christchurch&#039;s Mt John.

The government followed the first bit of advice and withdrew funding, with the loss of pretty much all jobs: but they&#039;ve just decided not to select another National Observatory.

Way to promote science!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the stupidity is spreading, I&#8217;m afraid it&#8217;s travelled around the world.</p>
<p>In New Zealand the government commissioned a report that recommended the National Observatory be transferred from Wellington&#8217;s Carter Observatory to Christchurch&#8217;s Mt John.</p>
<p>The government followed the first bit of advice and withdrew funding, with the loss of pretty much all jobs: but they&#8217;ve just decided not to select another National Observatory.</p>
<p>Way to promote science!</p>
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		<title>By: Angrynight</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75021</link>
		<dc:creator>Angrynight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First NASA, then Fermilab, and now this? I&#039;m beginning to think that we scientists and our sympathizers should go off and start our own civilization. I&#039;m thinking we should call it &quot;The Foundation&quot;. It has a nice ring to it, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First NASA, then Fermilab, and now this? I&#8217;m beginning to think that we scientists and our sympathizers should go off and start our own civilization. I&#8217;m thinking we should call it &#8220;The Foundation&#8221;. It has a nice ring to it, no?</p>
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		<title>By: TMB</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75020</link>
		<dc:creator>TMB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Astronomy in the UK has been in serious trouble ever since the old PPARC (&quot;Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council&quot;), which funded astronomy and particle physics, became STFC (&quot;Science and Technology Facilities Council&quot;... funny, the word &quot;research&quot; isn&#039;t in the title). They tried to pull out Gemini until the entire UK astronomical community pointed out that they would then be without access to any large telescope in the northern hemisphere. A lot of my astronomical friends in the UK are searching for jobs elsewhere because the funding future looks very bleak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Astronomy in the UK has been in serious trouble ever since the old PPARC (&#8220;Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council&#8221;), which funded astronomy and particle physics, became STFC (&#8220;Science and Technology Facilities Council&#8221;&#8230; funny, the word &#8220;research&#8221; isn&#8217;t in the title). They tried to pull out Gemini until the entire UK astronomical community pointed out that they would then be without access to any large telescope in the northern hemisphere. A lot of my astronomical friends in the UK are searching for jobs elsewhere because the funding future looks very bleak.</p>
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		<title>By: Edward</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75018</link>
		<dc:creator>Edward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is truly a sad state of affairs.</description>
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		<title>By: Ragutis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/03/06/uk-to-close-jodrell-bank/comment-page-1/#comment-75017</link>
		<dc:creator>Ragutis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 21:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How much does the NHS spend covering Homeopathy?</description>
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