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	<title>Comments on: No transfat = teh suck</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: JC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/02/no-transfat-teh-suck/comment-page-5/#comment-81427</link>
		<dc:creator>JC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 02:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HoHos have had to change.  I used to have a HoHo as a Sunday morning reward for walking to the local grocer.  I walked to the store to buy a carton of milk and a HoHo, Not any moreI They taste yucky.

Prior to the yuckyness I used to have conversations with strangers about HoHos and DingDongs.  It is amazing how people react to the debate of HoHos vs. DingDongs.  I would say 90% of those I talked to, definitely had a preference for one or the other.  I miss those days, everyone loved to get into the HoHo and DingDong debate.  One time I had a whole store crowed around talking to this subject, probably right around 30 people.  Now all I have to talk about is what happened to Mars and the Snicker’s candy bar, which is yucky as well.  With all this going on, I might get back to my high school weight.

Isn’t the internet a great place</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HoHos have had to change.  I used to have a HoHo as a Sunday morning reward for walking to the local grocer.  I walked to the store to buy a carton of milk and a HoHo, Not any moreI They taste yucky.</p>
<p>Prior to the yuckyness I used to have conversations with strangers about HoHos and DingDongs.  It is amazing how people react to the debate of HoHos vs. DingDongs.  I would say 90% of those I talked to, definitely had a preference for one or the other.  I miss those days, everyone loved to get into the HoHo and DingDong debate.  One time I had a whole store crowed around talking to this subject, probably right around 30 people.  Now all I have to talk about is what happened to Mars and the Snicker’s candy bar, which is yucky as well.  With all this going on, I might get back to my high school weight.</p>
<p>Isn’t the internet a great place</p>
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		<title>By: quasidog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/02/no-transfat-teh-suck/comment-page-5/#comment-81426</link>
		<dc:creator>quasidog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(typo) ...the term &#039;addiction&#039; IS being used .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(typo) &#8230;the term &#8216;addiction&#8217; IS being used &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: quasidog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/02/no-transfat-teh-suck/comment-page-5/#comment-81425</link>
		<dc:creator>quasidog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JediBear,   yes I agree with your thought on the definition of &#039;addiction&#039;, but in my post I am using the term &#039;addiction&#039; in a more broader or descriptive sense.  The comparative of quitting smoking to quitting sugar is not meant to be taken literally.  I am really just pointing out the difficulty in change of habit.

Having said that, I have both successfully quit smoking in my life as well as been successful in areas of dietary change, and I can testify that the with-drawl and the mental strength required to change are very similar.   I agree though that quitting nicotine is far more difficult and can be regarded as a true addiction.

I also feel that a habit that one finds extremely difficult to change can similarly be regarded as an &#039;addiction&#039;, if only psychologically.  I prefer to think, after evaluating the medical definition of &#039;addiction&#039;, that addiction has many forms and some are based on different physical factors of differing strengths, while other forms are based on psychological factors with differing strengths.

Again just to clarify, the term &#039;addiction&#039; in being used in my posts in the more colloquial sense.

PS : Being an uncouth barbarian, *Grunts in agreement with JediBear and drinks his nasty coffee  .... &quot;mmm coffee good&quot;*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JediBear,   yes I agree with your thought on the definition of &#8216;addiction&#8217;, but in my post I am using the term &#8216;addiction&#8217; in a more broader or descriptive sense.  The comparative of quitting smoking to quitting sugar is not meant to be taken literally.  I am really just pointing out the difficulty in change of habit.</p>
<p>Having said that, I have both successfully quit smoking in my life as well as been successful in areas of dietary change, and I can testify that the with-drawl and the mental strength required to change are very similar.   I agree though that quitting nicotine is far more difficult and can be regarded as a true addiction.</p>
<p>I also feel that a habit that one finds extremely difficult to change can similarly be regarded as an &#8216;addiction&#8217;, if only psychologically.  I prefer to think, after evaluating the medical definition of &#8216;addiction&#8217;, that addiction has many forms and some are based on different physical factors of differing strengths, while other forms are based on psychological factors with differing strengths.</p>
<p>Again just to clarify, the term &#8216;addiction&#8217; in being used in my posts in the more colloquial sense.</p>
<p>PS : Being an uncouth barbarian, *Grunts in agreement with JediBear and drinks his nasty coffee  &#8230;. &#8220;mmm coffee good&#8221;*</p>
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		<title>By: JediBear</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/02/no-transfat-teh-suck/comment-page-5/#comment-81424</link>
		<dc:creator>JediBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, coffee is nasty. Anyone who drinks it is an uncouth barbarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, coffee is nasty. Anyone who drinks it is an uncouth barbarian.</p>
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		<title>By: JediBear</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/02/no-transfat-teh-suck/comment-page-5/#comment-81423</link>
		<dc:creator>JediBear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see forms of the word &quot;addiction&quot; being thrown around here fairly cavialierly. Food addictions are actually quite rare. Nearly noone is actually addicted to food of any kind.

On the other hand, most people have some kind of habitual diet, and breaking a habit can always be tough. To use the word addiction properly, it needs to apply to things that go beyond simple habit. Not just something that&#039;s hard to stop doing, or that you miss doing, but something that has withdrawal symptoms. Cutting sugar is not like quitting cigarettes.

 I don&#039;t think there&#039;s any solid science (and I could be wrong) backing reducing one of the three categories of nutrients in favor of the other two as a healthy choice for weight reduction. The basic key to healthy, long-term weight-loss is to eat less (while maintaining a balanced diet -- which most people don&#039;t have in the first place) and/or excersise more.

As to the HoHos, I don&#039;t even know if the no transfats thing even represents a change to the recipe. I certainly can&#039;t say I have any preference for transfats. For sure, some things need fats to taste right, but transfats? Um, no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see forms of the word &#8220;addiction&#8221; being thrown around here fairly cavialierly. Food addictions are actually quite rare. Nearly noone is actually addicted to food of any kind.</p>
<p>On the other hand, most people have some kind of habitual diet, and breaking a habit can always be tough. To use the word addiction properly, it needs to apply to things that go beyond simple habit. Not just something that&#8217;s hard to stop doing, or that you miss doing, but something that has withdrawal symptoms. Cutting sugar is not like quitting cigarettes.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s any solid science (and I could be wrong) backing reducing one of the three categories of nutrients in favor of the other two as a healthy choice for weight reduction. The basic key to healthy, long-term weight-loss is to eat less (while maintaining a balanced diet &#8212; which most people don&#8217;t have in the first place) and/or excersise more.</p>
<p>As to the HoHos, I don&#8217;t even know if the no transfats thing even represents a change to the recipe. I certainly can&#8217;t say I have any preference for transfats. For sure, some things need fats to taste right, but transfats? Um, no.</p>
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		<title>By: quasidog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/02/no-transfat-teh-suck/comment-page-5/#comment-81422</link>
		<dc:creator>quasidog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you cannot drink coffee without sugar, you are probably drinking crap coffee.

I will admit, adding sugar to cheap instant coffee is almost essential to get rid of the taste of the um ... cheapness, but if you get a fresh ground coffee of high quality, give it a week or so of getting used to having no sugar in it and you will never go back.   Well at least I didn&#039;t.  I bought a high quality coffee a few weeks ago that had sugar added to it by mistake.  By the time I went to drink it it was too late to go back, but when I tasted the sugar it was really noticeable, and it spoiled the flavour of the coffee itself. Chucked it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you cannot drink coffee without sugar, you are probably drinking crap coffee.</p>
<p>I will admit, adding sugar to cheap instant coffee is almost essential to get rid of the taste of the um &#8230; cheapness, but if you get a fresh ground coffee of high quality, give it a week or so of getting used to having no sugar in it and you will never go back.   Well at least I didn&#8217;t.  I bought a high quality coffee a few weeks ago that had sugar added to it by mistake.  By the time I went to drink it it was too late to go back, but when I tasted the sugar it was really noticeable, and it spoiled the flavour of the coffee itself. Chucked it.</p>
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		<title>By: TheBlackCat</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheBlackCat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Day old in the pot is one thing. Day old in your stomach is another.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At least you never have to worry about it going cold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Day old in the pot is one thing. Day old in your stomach is another.</p></blockquote>
<p>At least you never have to worry about it going cold.</p>
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