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	<title>Comments on: Ironic Sans: the Bulbdial clock</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/03/ironic-sans-the-bulbdial-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-81474</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 16:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are people confused?  Of course it requires a clock. Whether it is an electronic timing circuit or a motor and gear system, it requires a clock. Duh!  Nowhere does it claim to not require a clock. The beauty isn&#039;t the lack of a clock mechanism of some sort, it is the amusement of a &quot;sundial&quot; using artificial light.  It&#039;s a joke, a gimmick.  Just because some people think it would be a fun gimmick to actually have rather than look at conceptual art of, doesn&#039;t make it any less of a joke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are people confused?  Of course it requires a clock. Whether it is an electronic timing circuit or a motor and gear system, it requires a clock. Duh!  Nowhere does it claim to not require a clock. The beauty isn&#8217;t the lack of a clock mechanism of some sort, it is the amusement of a &#8220;sundial&#8221; using artificial light.  It&#8217;s a joke, a gimmick.  Just because some people think it would be a fun gimmick to actually have rather than look at conceptual art of, doesn&#8217;t make it any less of a joke.</p>
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		<title>By: Scythe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/03/ironic-sans-the-bulbdial-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-81473</link>
		<dc:creator>Scythe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 12:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stopped wearing a watch (I&#039;ve sinced coined the term &quot;time-cuff&quot; to descibe them as in hand cuffs because of the way one becomes a slave to the damned things) since 1986.

I realised that no matter how good a watch is it doesn&#039;t get you to where you are going any faster, in fact, a strange side effect of a watch is to distort time in the worst possible way, e.g. making unpleasant things last longer. I&#039;ve not worked out how this happens yet since the watch does not exhibit coherent distortion of space/time, but my observations have led me towards thinking that it has something to do with how hairy ones arms are because when my partner is shopping she doesn&#039;t experience the same time as me.

A watch is also quite a dangerous thing to be wearing when one has ones hands inside high voltage equipment or computer cabinets (possibly the real reason why I stopped wearing them).

Since discarding it, I can say that time is really not that important outside of the experiments and measurements that require accuracy. We&#039;ve been duped into thinking that we need to know the time, much like our &quot;need&quot; to know the weather in a continent half a planet away.

Neat idea though Phil although I&#039;d favour laser pointers and getting rid of the central pillar.

How about a smelly-clock? Different smells could be activated by being exposed to the light at the various times, e.g. fry up breakfast at 8am, tea coffee and biscuits at 11am, canteen smells at 1pm, traffic fumes at 5pm, sweaty gym socks at 6pm, etc etc.

Just think of the excuses... &quot;Sorry I&#039;m late, someone in the office broke wind and I thought it was an hour earlier than it actually was&quot;.

Gary made a point at the beginning that noone seemed to pick up on, quote: &quot;Uh, doesn’t the mechanism essentially require a clock to keep proper timing of the circling lights?&quot;

ROFL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stopped wearing a watch (I&#8217;ve sinced coined the term &#8220;time-cuff&#8221; to descibe them as in hand cuffs because of the way one becomes a slave to the damned things) since 1986.</p>
<p>I realised that no matter how good a watch is it doesn&#8217;t get you to where you are going any faster, in fact, a strange side effect of a watch is to distort time in the worst possible way, e.g. making unpleasant things last longer. I&#8217;ve not worked out how this happens yet since the watch does not exhibit coherent distortion of space/time, but my observations have led me towards thinking that it has something to do with how hairy ones arms are because when my partner is shopping she doesn&#8217;t experience the same time as me.</p>
<p>A watch is also quite a dangerous thing to be wearing when one has ones hands inside high voltage equipment or computer cabinets (possibly the real reason why I stopped wearing them).</p>
<p>Since discarding it, I can say that time is really not that important outside of the experiments and measurements that require accuracy. We&#8217;ve been duped into thinking that we need to know the time, much like our &#8220;need&#8221; to know the weather in a continent half a planet away.</p>
<p>Neat idea though Phil although I&#8217;d favour laser pointers and getting rid of the central pillar.</p>
<p>How about a smelly-clock? Different smells could be activated by being exposed to the light at the various times, e.g. fry up breakfast at 8am, tea coffee and biscuits at 11am, canteen smells at 1pm, traffic fumes at 5pm, sweaty gym socks at 6pm, etc etc.</p>
<p>Just think of the excuses&#8230; &#8220;Sorry I&#8217;m late, someone in the office broke wind and I thought it was an hour earlier than it actually was&#8221;.</p>
<p>Gary made a point at the beginning that noone seemed to pick up on, quote: &#8220;Uh, doesn’t the mechanism essentially require a clock to keep proper timing of the circling lights?&#8221;</p>
<p>ROFL</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 04:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, for sure.

I have a pendence to view &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiomatic_design&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;axiomatic design&lt;/a&gt; as aesthetic as you can establish (enough) independence between design functions to make the design feasible or sturdy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, for sure.</p>
<p>I have a pendence to view <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axiomatic_design" rel="nofollow">axiomatic design</a> as aesthetic as you can establish (enough) independence between design functions to make the design feasible or sturdy.</p>
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		<title>By: Pieter Kok</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pieter Kok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I think we should differentiate between aestetic design and engineering design, although the two are clearly related.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I think we should differentiate between aestetic design and engineering design, although the two are clearly related.</p>
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		<title>By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM</title>
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		<dc:creator>Torbjörn Larsson, OM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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Still, in terms of the design it is not elegant if a secondary clock is obviously needed, which is the case when you use multiple LEDs.
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Pieter, I think I covered that earlier; AFAIK an artificial clock is only needed for dials that move faster than a shadow, and if you allow the power frequency for motors you can use it for LEDs.

I&#039;m not sure how you define design &quot;elegancy&quot; as opposed to a purist view, because it is could be argued that it is more elegant from a design view to use a small amount of electronics instead of wearable and wasteful motors.

Maybe you mean visible elegance though, which is a no brainer win for the sketch above.</description>
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Still, in terms of the design it is not elegant if a secondary clock is obviously needed, which is the case when you use multiple LEDs.
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<p>Pieter, I think I covered that earlier; AFAIK an artificial clock is only needed for dials that move faster than a shadow, and if you allow the power frequency for motors you can use it for LEDs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how you define design &#8220;elegancy&#8221; as opposed to a purist view, because it is could be argued that it is more elegant from a design view to use a small amount of electronics instead of wearable and wasteful motors.</p>
<p>Maybe you mean visible elegance though, which is a no brainer win for the sketch above.</p>
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		<title>By: El reloj con manecillas de luz &#171; Pasa la vida</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/03/ironic-sans-the-bulbdial-clock/comment-page-1/#comment-81469</link>
		<dc:creator>El reloj con manecillas de luz &#171; Pasa la vida</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Yoshi_3up</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoshi_3up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is an awesome idea.</description>
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