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	<title>Comments on: The eyes of Cheney</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Douglas Wiken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/11/the-eyes-of-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-82319</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Wiken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Put 4,000 wasted dead American soldiers on one side of a balance scale and put the ire over the Cheney photo on the other side.  Stand back and compare.

I used the photo in a different way at my blog, and got one whole comment noting use of the term &quot;McAncient&quot; and nothing at all about the actual image, so I was surprised to see the comments here.

Another blog to add to the lists of links I have.  One never knows what insignificance will get the wingnut right into a righteous foaming mouth lather...with out even mentioning the wink, nudge &quot;netherlands&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Put 4,000 wasted dead American soldiers on one side of a balance scale and put the ire over the Cheney photo on the other side.  Stand back and compare.</p>
<p>I used the photo in a different way at my blog, and got one whole comment noting use of the term &#8220;McAncient&#8221; and nothing at all about the actual image, so I was surprised to see the comments here.</p>
<p>Another blog to add to the lists of links I have.  One never knows what insignificance will get the wingnut right into a righteous foaming mouth lather&#8230;with out even mentioning the wink, nudge &#8220;netherlands&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/11/the-eyes-of-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-82318</link>
		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh. I hadn&#039;t even heard the naked woman theory until you posted it---I&#039;d seen the picture and thought it was a giant, Cheney-eating bug.
(That thought was kind of appealing, since I don&#039;t actually like him, but in the blown-up picture it&#039;s clearly just an arm and a fishing rod, very sad.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh. I hadn&#8217;t even heard the naked woman theory until you posted it&#8212;I&#8217;d seen the picture and thought it was a giant, Cheney-eating bug.<br />
(That thought was kind of appealing, since I don&#8217;t actually like him, but in the blown-up picture it&#8217;s clearly just an arm and a fishing rod, very sad.)</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/11/the-eyes-of-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-82317</link>
		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 06:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Rush Limbaugh&lt;/i&gt;

Limbaugh&#039;s real problems started when he became an insider.

In the early years of his show, he was pretty entertaining and was quite cynical about *everyone* in government. He was conservative, but he gave few if any breaks.

Somewhere during the reign of the first Bush, there was some big event over a weekend... I forget what. I tuned in to the radio show on Monday to see what the buzz was, and the whole first HOUR was a recounting by Limbaugh of his overnight stay in the White House. Feh...

I never listened again.

As for people calling him racist or misogynistic, well, that&#039;s standard operating procedure these days in this country to shut down all discussion and debate.

Try running for office and suggest that immigration reform should, you know, include enforcing the law. Legions of people, who never knew your name before yesterday, will call you a racist.

This is the world we live in. Irrationality, myth, lies and deceit, and EVERYONE is infected in one way or another. Ten thousand (or so) years of civilization has changed nothing. Oh, the war clubs are more efficient and the glowing screens have replaced the cave paintings, but the animal core of the human psyche is still there- afraid of the unknown, lashing out at the unfamiliar and hiding from anything that threatens its comfort level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Rush Limbaugh</i></p>
<p>Limbaugh&#8217;s real problems started when he became an insider.</p>
<p>In the early years of his show, he was pretty entertaining and was quite cynical about *everyone* in government. He was conservative, but he gave few if any breaks.</p>
<p>Somewhere during the reign of the first Bush, there was some big event over a weekend&#8230; I forget what. I tuned in to the radio show on Monday to see what the buzz was, and the whole first HOUR was a recounting by Limbaugh of his overnight stay in the White House. Feh&#8230;</p>
<p>I never listened again.</p>
<p>As for people calling him racist or misogynistic, well, that&#8217;s standard operating procedure these days in this country to shut down all discussion and debate.</p>
<p>Try running for office and suggest that immigration reform should, you know, include enforcing the law. Legions of people, who never knew your name before yesterday, will call you a racist.</p>
<p>This is the world we live in. Irrationality, myth, lies and deceit, and EVERYONE is infected in one way or another. Ten thousand (or so) years of civilization has changed nothing. Oh, the war clubs are more efficient and the glowing screens have replaced the cave paintings, but the animal core of the human psyche is still there- afraid of the unknown, lashing out at the unfamiliar and hiding from anything that threatens its comfort level.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/11/the-eyes-of-cheney/comment-page-3/#comment-82316</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure it&#039;s possible Rush says things to get ratings, but he doesn&#039;t say racist or misogynistic things on the show.  If he makes a joke it&#039;s very clear that he&#039;s doing so.  If you read Rush quotes out of context then sure, they could be misconstrued.

Given the well known history of racism and misogyny in the country, I really do not think people would work for a racist or sexist if they knew about the racism and sexism, which after working for someone for years they would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure it&#8217;s possible Rush says things to get ratings, but he doesn&#8217;t say racist or misogynistic things on the show.  If he makes a joke it&#8217;s very clear that he&#8217;s doing so.  If you read Rush quotes out of context then sure, they could be misconstrued.</p>
<p>Given the well known history of racism and misogyny in the country, I really do not think people would work for a racist or sexist if they knew about the racism and sexism, which after working for someone for years they would.</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robbie, and of course no one would ever work with a racist or misogynist? I&#039;m sometimes surprised to the lengths some people will go to keep a job.

However there is still the third possibility I mentioned. Do you think that spouting controversy for ratings would only down to Rush and not the other people involved with the show as well? Would being black or a woman mean that you would not compromise your principles for financial gain?

Caveat, I don&#039;t know I&#039;m just asking the questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robbie, and of course no one would ever work with a racist or misogynist? I&#8217;m sometimes surprised to the lengths some people will go to keep a job.</p>
<p>However there is still the third possibility I mentioned. Do you think that spouting controversy for ratings would only down to Rush and not the other people involved with the show as well? Would being black or a woman mean that you would not compromise your principles for financial gain?</p>
<p>Caveat, I don&#8217;t know I&#8217;m just asking the questions.</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
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		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jdp, come on we&#039;re talking pretty mild satire here. It is the sort of concern trolling that makes one think of the furore over &quot;nipplegate&quot; that seems peculiar to the US.

If you must shield your daughter from this sort of stuff monitor her internet browsing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jdp, come on we&#8217;re talking pretty mild satire here. It is the sort of concern trolling that makes one think of the furore over &#8220;nipplegate&#8221; that seems peculiar to the US.</p>
<p>If you must shield your daughter from this sort of stuff monitor her internet browsing.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/11/the-eyes-of-cheney/comment-page-2/#comment-82313</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not the argument I made and isn&#039;t relevant.  My point was that the people he employs would probably notice misogynist or racist tendencies after working with the person every day for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not the argument I made and isn&#8217;t relevant.  My point was that the people he employs would probably notice misogynist or racist tendencies after working with the person every day for years.</p>
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