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	<title>Comments on: Europe: Day 3 &#8212; CERN! The LHC!</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: ATLAS plugged &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/22/europe-day-3-cern-the-lhc/comment-page-2/#comment-194154</link>
		<dc:creator>ATLAS plugged &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] that? If they like you best, you get to see the LHC! I was there last year, and let me say, it freakin&#8217; rawks. You want to go [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] that? If they like you best, you get to see the LHC! I was there last year, and let me say, it freakin&#8217; rawks. You want to go [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Magazinalia &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/22/europe-day-3-cern-the-lhc/comment-page-2/#comment-136321</link>
		<dc:creator>Magazinalia &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for yourself. I&#8217;ve hung out with him, and yeah, it&#8217;s true. But then, science is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for yourself. I&#8217;ve hung out with him, and yeah, it&#8217;s true. But then, science is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: socratus</title>
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		<dc:creator>socratus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The mad CERN ’s way.

In 1906, Rutherford studied internal structure of atoms, 
bombarding them with high energy a- particles. 
This idea helped him understand the structure of atom.
 But the clever Devil interfered and gave advice to physicists
 to enlarge the target. Bomb them!
 And physicist created huge cannon-accelerators of particles.
 And they began to bomb micro particles in the vacuum, in hoping
 to understand  their inner structure. And they were surprised with
 the results of this bombing. Several hundreds of completely new
 strange particles appeared. They lived a very little time and do not
 relate to our world.  Our Earth needs its real constants of nature. 
But this was forgotten. 
What God carefully created, is destroyed in accelerators.
 And they are proud of that. They say: we study the inner structure 
of the particles. The clever and artful Devil is glad. He again has deceived man. 
Physicist  think, that an accelerator - is first of all the presence of huge energy. 
And the Devil laughs.  He knows, that an accelerator - is first of all the Vacuum. 
But this, he has withheld from man.
 He has not explained that the Vacuum is infinite and inexhaustible.
 And in infinity there is contained an infinite variety of particles.
 And by bombing the vacuum, one can find centaurs and sphinxes.
 But my God, save us from their presence on Earth.
=========   .. ========.
Rutherford  was right.
His followers are mistaken.
Why?
Imagine, that I want to plant a small apple- tree.
For this purpose I shall dig out a hole of 1 meter width and  1,20 m depth.
It is normal.
But if to plant a small apple- tree, I shall begin to dig 
a base for a huge building (skyscraper), 
or if to begin drill ground with 10 km. depth,  
will you call me a normal man?
==========  ..  ===============.
Imagine a man who breaks watches on the wall.
 And then he tries to understand the mechanism of the watches
 by thrown cogwheels, springs and small screws.
 Does he have many chances to succeed?
 As many as the scientists have who aspire to understand
 the inner structure of electron by breaking them into accelerators.
 If not take into account the initial conditions of Genesis,
 the fantasies of the scientists may be unlimited.
==========     . ======== .
The Nature works very economical.
 For example, biologists know 100 ( hundred ) kinds of 
amino acids. But only 20 ( twenty) kinds of amino acids
 are suitable to produce molecules of protein, from which all 
different cells created on our planet. What are about another
80 % of amino acids? They are dead end of evolution. 
The physicists found many ( 1000 ) new elementary particles in
 accelerators. But we need only one ( 1) electron  and one (1 )
 proton to create first atom, to begin to create the Nature.
 All another elementary  particles (mesons, muons , bosons, taus,
 all their girlfriends -  antiparticles, all quarks and antiquarks…etc)
 are dead end of evolution.
============.
What was before - “ the big bang” or the vacuum ?
The physicists created “ Europe’s Large Hadron Colider “
 Please, look at how our physicists made this accelerator. 
They made the vacuum and after they generated a big reaction
 between two colliding particles in some small imitation of the
 “big bang”. They didn’t make this process in the reverse. 
So, what was prior in the Universe: “ big bang” or vacuum?
===========================..
The Universe as whole is Vacuum, first of all. 

Best wishes. 
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.

http://www.socratus.com
http://www.wbabin.net
http://www.wbabin.net/comments/sadovnik.htm
http://www.wbabin.net/physics/sadovnik.pdf
====================..
P.S.

Will CERN find the God - Particle?
Hawking bets CERN will not find the God Particle

http://www.physorg.com/news140161003.html
================..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The mad CERN ’s way.</p>
<p>In 1906, Rutherford studied internal structure of atoms,<br />
bombarding them with high energy a- particles.<br />
This idea helped him understand the structure of atom.<br />
 But the clever Devil interfered and gave advice to physicists<br />
 to enlarge the target. Bomb them!<br />
 And physicist created huge cannon-accelerators of particles.<br />
 And they began to bomb micro particles in the vacuum, in hoping<br />
 to understand  their inner structure. And they were surprised with<br />
 the results of this bombing. Several hundreds of completely new<br />
 strange particles appeared. They lived a very little time and do not<br />
 relate to our world.  Our Earth needs its real constants of nature.<br />
But this was forgotten.<br />
What God carefully created, is destroyed in accelerators.<br />
 And they are proud of that. They say: we study the inner structure<br />
of the particles. The clever and artful Devil is glad. He again has deceived man.<br />
Physicist  think, that an accelerator &#8211; is first of all the presence of huge energy.<br />
And the Devil laughs.  He knows, that an accelerator &#8211; is first of all the Vacuum.<br />
But this, he has withheld from man.<br />
 He has not explained that the Vacuum is infinite and inexhaustible.<br />
 And in infinity there is contained an infinite variety of particles.<br />
 And by bombing the vacuum, one can find centaurs and sphinxes.<br />
 But my God, save us from their presence on Earth.<br />
=========   .. ========.<br />
Rutherford  was right.<br />
His followers are mistaken.<br />
Why?<br />
Imagine, that I want to plant a small apple- tree.<br />
For this purpose I shall dig out a hole of 1 meter width and  1,20 m depth.<br />
It is normal.<br />
But if to plant a small apple- tree, I shall begin to dig<br />
a base for a huge building (skyscraper),<br />
or if to begin drill ground with 10 km. depth,<br />
will you call me a normal man?<br />
==========  ..  ===============.<br />
Imagine a man who breaks watches on the wall.<br />
 And then he tries to understand the mechanism of the watches<br />
 by thrown cogwheels, springs and small screws.<br />
 Does he have many chances to succeed?<br />
 As many as the scientists have who aspire to understand<br />
 the inner structure of electron by breaking them into accelerators.<br />
 If not take into account the initial conditions of Genesis,<br />
 the fantasies of the scientists may be unlimited.<br />
==========     . ======== .<br />
The Nature works very economical.<br />
 For example, biologists know 100 ( hundred ) kinds of<br />
amino acids. But only 20 ( twenty) kinds of amino acids<br />
 are suitable to produce molecules of protein, from which all<br />
different cells created on our planet. What are about another<br />
80 % of amino acids? They are dead end of evolution.<br />
The physicists found many ( 1000 ) new elementary particles in<br />
 accelerators. But we need only one ( 1) electron  and one (1 )<br />
 proton to create first atom, to begin to create the Nature.<br />
 All another elementary  particles (mesons, muons , bosons, taus,<br />
 all their girlfriends &#8211;  antiparticles, all quarks and antiquarks…etc)<br />
 are dead end of evolution.<br />
============.<br />
What was before &#8211; “ the big bang” or the vacuum ?<br />
The physicists created “ Europe’s Large Hadron Colider “<br />
 Please, look at how our physicists made this accelerator.<br />
They made the vacuum and after they generated a big reaction<br />
 between two colliding particles in some small imitation of the<br />
 “big bang”. They didn’t make this process in the reverse.<br />
So, what was prior in the Universe: “ big bang” or vacuum?<br />
===========================..<br />
The Universe as whole is Vacuum, first of all. </p>
<p>Best wishes.<br />
Israel Sadovnik. / Socratus.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.socratus.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.socratus.com</a><br />
<a href="http://www.wbabin.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.wbabin.net</a><br />
<a href="http://www.wbabin.net/comments/sadovnik.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wbabin.net/comments/sadovnik.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.wbabin.net/physics/sadovnik.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.wbabin.net/physics/sadovnik.pdf</a><br />
====================..<br />
P.S.</p>
<p>Will CERN find the God &#8211; Particle?<br />
Hawking bets CERN will not find the God Particle</p>
<p><a href="http://www.physorg.com/news140161003.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.physorg.com/news140161003.html</a><br />
================..</p>
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		<title>By: The end is n : The Computus Engine</title>
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		<dc:creator>The end is n : The Computus Engine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Cox and the gang have been on a PR offensive to reassure us that the scientists know what they&#039;re doing. Strangely a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ian On The Red Dot :: The End Of The World Is Here</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/22/europe-day-3-cern-the-lhc/comment-page-2/#comment-116577</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian On The Red Dot :: The End Of The World Is Here</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 06:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] links here and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brian Cox calls &#8216;em like he sees &#8216;em &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/22/europe-day-3-cern-the-lhc/comment-page-2/#comment-116141</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Cox calls &#8216;em like he sees &#8216;em &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 04:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the LHC is a doorway to the Universe. It will open and we will see wonders we&#8217;ve only guessed at so far. It will provide us with [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Chen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/04/22/europe-day-3-cern-the-lhc/comment-page-2/#comment-109643</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Chen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the last sentence of your essay:
&quot;No emotionless person could have ever built LHC, could have ever imagined it. It exists because of emotion — joy, wonder, and amazement — the fuel that drives the seeking of scientific knowledge.&quot;
As a physics guy, I need this kind of emotion all over my physics life. This kind of emotion is that kind of passion which Randy told us to search for...
Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the last sentence of your essay:<br />
&#8220;No emotionless person could have ever built LHC, could have ever imagined it. It exists because of emotion — joy, wonder, and amazement — the fuel that drives the seeking of scientific knowledge.&#8221;<br />
As a physics guy, I need this kind of emotion all over my physics life. This kind of emotion is that kind of passion which Randy told us to search for&#8230;<br />
Thank you!</p>
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