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	<title>Comments on: Airplanes and meteors and UFOs, oh my</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: JB of Brisbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB of Brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is even more annoying is when Australian newspapers and TV news directly convert Imperial units to Metric/SI in their stories, as if they believe people shouldn&#039;t be allowed to speak Imperial, eg: &quot;I reckon it was doing about 320 km/h&quot; when the original report said &quot;200 MPH&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is even more annoying is when Australian newspapers and TV news directly convert Imperial units to Metric/SI in their stories, as if they believe people shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to speak Imperial, eg: &#8220;I reckon it was doing about 320 km/h&#8221; when the original report said &#8220;200 MPH&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, yeah, some of the comments above reminded me of another UFO sighting I had completely forgot.

It was when I was attending University, in a town 60 km away from home, which meant I often drove home for weekends. And usually did it friday night (quite often after midnight) to avoid traffic and skipping classes. That specific night the sky had some low clouds and some open spots, and about 10 minutes into the trip I started seing three colourful lights ahead of me, apparently dancing around the sky and then disappearing only to reappear a little later. I thought to myself &quot;what the BEEP?!&quot;, and went on driving, keeping an eye on the sky as I drove.

At some point I had to start looking into my rear view mirror to spot the lights, but kept puzzling about what that strange phenomenon might be almost till I got to town, although I stopped seing it some 10 minutes before that. I was alreading seing my hometown lights looming ahead when I recalled one crucial fact that provided an explanation for the thing.

That week, a disco about halfway between the town I was studying in and my hometown had innaugurated a new attraction: a set of projectors that were to be used as advertising for the place. I knew that because... well... I was in college. In college one always knows about stuff like that. They were just being reflected off the clouds, and were visible for miles in either direction. So it remained UFO for about half an hour. But had I not known about the disco, the phenomenon might have kept that condition for much longer.

(they were soon forced to turn the projectors down, BTW - the town I was studying in has an international airport, and they interfered with its operations, according to what I&#039;ve heard)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, yeah, some of the comments above reminded me of another UFO sighting I had completely forgot.</p>
<p>It was when I was attending University, in a town 60 km away from home, which meant I often drove home for weekends. And usually did it friday night (quite often after midnight) to avoid traffic and skipping classes. That specific night the sky had some low clouds and some open spots, and about 10 minutes into the trip I started seing three colourful lights ahead of me, apparently dancing around the sky and then disappearing only to reappear a little later. I thought to myself &#8220;what the BEEP?!&#8221;, and went on driving, keeping an eye on the sky as I drove.</p>
<p>At some point I had to start looking into my rear view mirror to spot the lights, but kept puzzling about what that strange phenomenon might be almost till I got to town, although I stopped seing it some 10 minutes before that. I was alreading seing my hometown lights looming ahead when I recalled one crucial fact that provided an explanation for the thing.</p>
<p>That week, a disco about halfway between the town I was studying in and my hometown had innaugurated a new attraction: a set of projectors that were to be used as advertising for the place. I knew that because&#8230; well&#8230; I was in college. In college one always knows about stuff like that. They were just being reflected off the clouds, and were visible for miles in either direction. So it remained UFO for about half an hour. But had I not known about the disco, the phenomenon might have kept that condition for much longer.</p>
<p>(they were soon forced to turn the projectors down, BTW &#8211; the town I was studying in has an international airport, and they interfered with its operations, according to what I&#8217;ve heard)</p>
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		<title>By: Damon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Damon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 23:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no, no Phil. There you go again oversimplifying like all the other skeptics.

You can&#039;t post a picture of a blurry kite that someone mistook for an alien spaceship and say it&#039;s proof that UFOs (alien spacecraft) don&#039;t exist.

Just admit that you are afraid, and that the hundreds of thousands of sitings a year has reminded you that, as scientists, you made a mistake you are afraid to atone for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no, no Phil. There you go again oversimplifying like all the other skeptics.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t post a picture of a blurry kite that someone mistook for an alien spaceship and say it&#8217;s proof that UFOs (alien spacecraft) don&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>Just admit that you are afraid, and that the hundreds of thousands of sitings a year has reminded you that, as scientists, you made a mistake you are afraid to atone for.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was big and yellow!</description>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Marfa lights sound somewhat similar to the Brown Mountain Lights of North Carolina.  Both are unexplained phenomena, both are real events, and both seem to have fantastic theories to fill in the lack of facts.

Wikipedia didn&#039;t really have much on this, but Ibiblio (from UNC) does:

http://www.ibiblio.org/ghosts/bmtn.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Marfa lights sound somewhat similar to the Brown Mountain Lights of North Carolina.  Both are unexplained phenomena, both are real events, and both seem to have fantastic theories to fill in the lack of facts.</p>
<p>Wikipedia didn&#8217;t really have much on this, but Ibiblio (from UNC) does:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ibiblio.org/ghosts/bmtn.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ibiblio.org/ghosts/bmtn.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, you missed another round of &quot;Arizona lights&quot; while in Europe.

Didn&#039;t miss much. Flares on balloons and the hoaxer was seen by a neighbor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, you missed another round of &#8220;Arizona lights&#8221; while in Europe.</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t miss much. Flares on balloons and the hoaxer was seen by a neighbor.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DPA:

That sounds like the green running light on an aircraft.</description>
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<p>That sounds like the green running light on an aircraft.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jkeller:

That&#039;s what the old timers called &quot;Will O&#039; the Whisps.&quot; How one interprets them depends on what one wants to see. It&#039;s somewhat amusing to hear   will o&#039; the whips described as &quot;ghosts,&quot; and it&#039;s interesting to see what events people try to associate to them. OTOH, my grandmother grew up near a house noted will o&#039; the whips on the grounds, and they didn&#039;t think it was anything other than some natural phenomenon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jkeller:</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what the old timers called &#8220;Will O&#8217; the Whisps.&#8221; How one interprets them depends on what one wants to see. It&#8217;s somewhat amusing to hear   will o&#8217; the whips described as &#8220;ghosts,&#8221; and it&#8217;s interesting to see what events people try to associate to them. OTOH, my grandmother grew up near a house noted will o&#8217; the whips on the grounds, and they didn&#8217;t think it was anything other than some natural phenomenon.</p>
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		<title>By: DPA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DPA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do meteors ever appear to move very slowly?  When I was a kid I saw a bright green light move slowly across the sky parallel with the ground, covered as much of the sky as I could see out my window.  Course when I was a kid I knew for SURE it was aliens, which was awesome and fueled my imagination for months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do meteors ever appear to move very slowly?  When I was a kid I saw a bright green light move slowly across the sky parallel with the ground, covered as much of the sky as I could see out my window.  Course when I was a kid I knew for SURE it was aliens, which was awesome and fueled my imagination for months.</p>
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		<title>By: jrkeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrkeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want a real unexplained Texas mystery, try the Marfa Lights

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfa_light</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want a real unexplained Texas mystery, try the Marfa Lights</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfa_light" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marfa_light</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marco Langbroek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marco Langbroek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;What bugs me are credulous news stations that report these things without talking to someone who actually knows anything about this!&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Phil, even when more serious media try to sollicit &quot;knowledgeable&quot;opinions, they usually end up at the wrong place. They then usually contact an astronomy department on some university or observatory and talk to a professional astronomer.

Now the point is: most professional astronomers themselves have very little true knowledge of things visible in the night sky, like meteors etcetera. They can tell you everything about Quasars, Neutron stars, black holes, B-type stars and Sb galaxies: but when it comes to things closer to home like meteors and other atmospheric phenomena they know very little. Problem is that quite often they nevertheless start to pronounce on it with some perceived authority.

I have a strong amateur background (to a semi-prof level, having actually published papers) in meteor related stuff. And I have seen too many times that some professional astronomer was saying things about meteor-related topics (and other night sky phenomena) that missed the truth completely and would squarely fit under &quot;Bad Astronomy&quot;

Given this, the media don&#039;t have it easy. Even when they try. It&#039;s a catch-22.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;What bugs me are credulous news stations that report these things without talking to someone who actually knows anything about this!&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Phil, even when more serious media try to sollicit &#8220;knowledgeable&#8221;opinions, they usually end up at the wrong place. They then usually contact an astronomy department on some university or observatory and talk to a professional astronomer.</p>
<p>Now the point is: most professional astronomers themselves have very little true knowledge of things visible in the night sky, like meteors etcetera. They can tell you everything about Quasars, Neutron stars, black holes, B-type stars and Sb galaxies: but when it comes to things closer to home like meteors and other atmospheric phenomena they know very little. Problem is that quite often they nevertheless start to pronounce on it with some perceived authority.</p>
<p>I have a strong amateur background (to a semi-prof level, having actually published papers) in meteor related stuff. And I have seen too many times that some professional astronomer was saying things about meteor-related topics (and other night sky phenomena) that missed the truth completely and would squarely fit under &#8220;Bad Astronomy&#8221;</p>
<p>Given this, the media don&#8217;t have it easy. Even when they try. It&#8217;s a catch-22.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since it&#039;s bright and we can barely discern a disk with the naked eye, Venus is easy to mistake for a terrestrial object. Fireballs can really light up the sky. I&#039;ve only seen two, and one was so bright I would have mistook it for a crashing plane had I not realized it was a meteor. A weather balloon that crashed late one afternoon looked very odd. Back in   the early 1970s there were these upper atmosphere experiments that left aurora-like color in the sky.

The only unidentified object I&#039;ve witnessed was around the middle 1970s. An object with lights that hovered over one spot. What was interesting was that we were in contact on the CB with another observer. If we had thought about it, we could have triangulated the position and the altitude. While we cracked some jokes about aliens with eyes like fried eggs, we assumed it was some sort of military exercise involving a helicopter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since it&#8217;s bright and we can barely discern a disk with the naked eye, Venus is easy to mistake for a terrestrial object. Fireballs can really light up the sky. I&#8217;ve only seen two, and one was so bright I would have mistook it for a crashing plane had I not realized it was a meteor. A weather balloon that crashed late one afternoon looked very odd. Back in   the early 1970s there were these upper atmosphere experiments that left aurora-like color in the sky.</p>
<p>The only unidentified object I&#8217;ve witnessed was around the middle 1970s. An object with lights that hovered over one spot. What was interesting was that we were in contact on the CB with another observer. If we had thought about it, we could have triangulated the position and the altitude. While we cracked some jokes about aliens with eyes like fried eggs, we assumed it was some sort of military exercise involving a helicopter.</p>
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		<title>By: DrFlimmer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 08:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve once seen a UFO, too. It was a summer night and suddenly there was this thing flying across the sky and it was blinking in a very smooth way; it turned on and off in very precise time range.......

Well, we found out, that it just was a rotating satellite, and we were quite sure that wasn&#039;t a UFO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve once seen a UFO, too. It was a summer night and suddenly there was this thing flying across the sky and it was blinking in a very smooth way; it turned on and off in very precise time range&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
<p>Well, we found out, that it just was a rotating satellite, and we were quite sure that wasn&#8217;t a UFO.</p>
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		<title>By: zeb</title>
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		<dc:creator>zeb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember seeing a blimp lit-up at dusk once. It was positively eerie. At first it looked just like a little, soft-glowing disk way off near the horizon, almost like a little dim copy of the moon. It eventually made its way close to overhead (so I could see it really was only a blimp).

It may have been that experience that helped set me on the path to being a skeptic. It showed me how I could be easily fooled by something relatively mundane and that it is best to truly search for answers, not just leap to the coolest conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember seeing a blimp lit-up at dusk once. It was positively eerie. At first it looked just like a little, soft-glowing disk way off near the horizon, almost like a little dim copy of the moon. It eventually made its way close to overhead (so I could see it really was only a blimp).</p>
<p>It may have been that experience that helped set me on the path to being a skeptic. It showed me how I could be easily fooled by something relatively mundane and that it is best to truly search for answers, not just leap to the coolest conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: autumn</title>
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		<dc:creator>autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 05:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had a good (if temporary) UFO experience while driving across the Arizona desert with my brother and a friend.  We suddenly noticed a group of lights seemingly moving high over a line of mountains in front of us.  It was about one AM, the sky was dark, and we clearly could see a &quot;formation&quot; of UFOs.  Had we been more credulous, or stopped to simply observe the phenomena, we could have come away with memories of something very much like the endless string of &quot;alien formation does impossible things before zooming out of sight&quot; videos.
Instead, we kept driving, acknowledgeing only that we didn&#039;t know what we were looking at.  As we drove a few miles on, the lights began to exhibit a pattern of some kind, but we were still baffled as to their origin.
Soon enough, we realized that we were watching a crop-duster performing the tight turns and banking of his craft.  The instant we recognized it the lights became the obvious tips of the aircrafts wings, nose, tail, and whatever else.
Still, it was like seeing the image switch from two vases into a face.  We went from watching many distant objects to suddenly seeing one close-by object.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a good (if temporary) UFO experience while driving across the Arizona desert with my brother and a friend.  We suddenly noticed a group of lights seemingly moving high over a line of mountains in front of us.  It was about one AM, the sky was dark, and we clearly could see a &#8220;formation&#8221; of UFOs.  Had we been more credulous, or stopped to simply observe the phenomena, we could have come away with memories of something very much like the endless string of &#8220;alien formation does impossible things before zooming out of sight&#8221; videos.<br />
Instead, we kept driving, acknowledgeing only that we didn&#8217;t know what we were looking at.  As we drove a few miles on, the lights began to exhibit a pattern of some kind, but we were still baffled as to their origin.<br />
Soon enough, we realized that we were watching a crop-duster performing the tight turns and banking of his craft.  The instant we recognized it the lights became the obvious tips of the aircrafts wings, nose, tail, and whatever else.<br />
Still, it was like seeing the image switch from two vases into a face.  We went from watching many distant objects to suddenly seeing one close-by object.</p>
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		<title>By: jrkeller</title>
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		<dc:creator>jrkeller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only live about 15 miles from the Houston UFO site.  The bridge where the sighting takes place is right over the ship channel and is in the heart of refinery land with its thousands of blinking lights.  Several small airports are close by, plus Ellington field (the astronaut airfield) is close by as well (I could have said too or two).  Probably a plane or a blinking refinery tower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only live about 15 miles from the Houston UFO site.  The bridge where the sighting takes place is right over the ship channel and is in the heart of refinery land with its thousands of blinking lights.  Several small airports are close by, plus Ellington field (the astronaut airfield) is close by as well (I could have said too or two).  Probably a plane or a blinking refinery tower.</p>
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		<title>By: Juan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should not have used the word &quot;wrong&quot;, its sounds like I&#039;m criticizing it. Its just that I didn&#039;t get what happened when I first read it. Don&#039;t worry &lt;i&gt;TWO&lt;/i&gt; much about ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should not have used the word &#8220;wrong&#8221;, its sounds like I&#8217;m criticizing it. Its just that I didn&#8217;t get what happened when I first read it. Don&#8217;t worry <i>TWO</i> much about <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Given that we don&#039;t know what the objects were, but they were flying, doesn&#039;t this mean they are UFOs by definition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given that we don&#8217;t know what the objects were, but they were flying, doesn&#8217;t this mean they are UFOs by definition?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Lubin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Lubin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe thirty years ago I was driving with my partner, and Venus was close to the horizon. &quot;What&#039;s that?&quot; he said with considerable alarm. &quot;That&#039;s Venus.&quot; &quot;Oh. I thought it might be an Unidentified Flying Object.&quot; &quot;It was, till I told you it was Venus.&quot; It always helps if the newspapers have people on staff with elementary knowledge of the physical world. But this doesn&#039;t often happen: they just report the &quot;news&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe thirty years ago I was driving with my partner, and Venus was close to the horizon. &#8220;What&#8217;s that?&#8221; he said with considerable alarm. &#8220;That&#8217;s Venus.&#8221; &#8220;Oh. I thought it might be an Unidentified Flying Object.&#8221; &#8220;It was, till I told you it was Venus.&#8221; It always helps if the newspapers have people on staff with elementary knowledge of the physical world. But this doesn&#8217;t often happen: they just report the &#8220;news&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Wolford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Wolford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Juan, do tell, what is wrong with the first description?  Seems logical to me, I&#039;ve often seen this effect as well.  However, I&#039;m not a complete moron and don&#039;t go screaming aliens in flying saucers; I do a bit of research to find the truth.  But UFOs are a great story...if you&#039;re not interested in the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Juan, do tell, what is wrong with the first description?  Seems logical to me, I&#8217;ve often seen this effect as well.  However, I&#8217;m not a complete moron and don&#8217;t go screaming aliens in flying saucers; I do a bit of research to find the truth.  But UFOs are a great story&#8230;if you&#8217;re not interested in the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long time pilot and sometimes amateur astronomer, I have seen a large number of unidentified objects in the air.

The one most memorable happened in the mid &#039;70s at Love field in Dallas. Love is surrounded by the city and even back then it was a very busy place. Still is - the home base of Southwest Airlines. Two long parallel runways, north-south and always with lots of traffic.

Our flying club was thinking of buying a used trainer from the Piper dealer and I had taken my lunch hour to go check it out.

As I was not very familiar with the Comanche I had my head in the cockpit more than I normally would. at about 1000 feet, I looked up and right in front of me I saw a large metallic sphere, hovering right over downtown Dallas.

For a second or two (it seemed longer) I began to rethink my entire world view and philosophy of life. Once I had my head back on and realized that it was not close - no apparent  change of size - I relaxed and proceeded South in the general direction of the object.

It turned out to be a Goodyear blimp seen head on several miles away.

A known (but unexpected) object seen from an unusual angle, even in bright daylight can cause an experienced observer to completely misidentify it.

Think what can happen with a brief glimpse in dark or low visibility conditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long time pilot and sometimes amateur astronomer, I have seen a large number of unidentified objects in the air.</p>
<p>The one most memorable happened in the mid &#8217;70s at Love field in Dallas. Love is surrounded by the city and even back then it was a very busy place. Still is &#8211; the home base of Southwest Airlines. Two long parallel runways, north-south and always with lots of traffic.</p>
<p>Our flying club was thinking of buying a used trainer from the Piper dealer and I had taken my lunch hour to go check it out.</p>
<p>As I was not very familiar with the Comanche I had my head in the cockpit more than I normally would. at about 1000 feet, I looked up and right in front of me I saw a large metallic sphere, hovering right over downtown Dallas.</p>
<p>For a second or two (it seemed longer) I began to rethink my entire world view and philosophy of life. Once I had my head back on and realized that it was not close &#8211; no apparent  change of size &#8211; I relaxed and proceeded South in the general direction of the object.</p>
<p>It turned out to be a Goodyear blimp seen head on several miles away.</p>
<p>A known (but unexpected) object seen from an unusual angle, even in bright daylight can cause an experienced observer to completely misidentify it.</p>
<p>Think what can happen with a brief glimpse in dark or low visibility conditions.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bad Astronomer</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bad Astronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. I was writing this post up when Mrs. BA told me we had to go to get to Carolyn Porco&#039;s talk on time, so I rushed the copy editing. I fixed the typo.

I&#039;m not sure why, Juan, you say my description of the encounter isn&#039;t very good. I was just summarizing it, and included a link to the story to get the details (sparse as they are). What about it was wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh. I was writing this post up when Mrs. BA told me we had to go to get to Carolyn Porco&#8217;s talk on time, so I rushed the copy editing. I fixed the typo.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why, Juan, you say my description of the encounter isn&#8217;t very good. I was just summarizing it, and included a link to the story to get the details (sparse as they are). What about it was wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About a week ago at dusk I was pondering the sky (Venus had just started showing) and I saw a brilliant orange streak for around a half-second. It wasn&#039;t the flash that was remarkable (almost certainly a  meteor burning up,) but the color (as I said, brilliant orange rather than whitish). It was anywhere near the horizon where objects appear redder because of light wave variances.

While I don&#039;t fully understand it, I realize it is because of my deficit of education on the subject rather than some paranormal phenomena. Why do people always assume the weirdest?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About a week ago at dusk I was pondering the sky (Venus had just started showing) and I saw a brilliant orange streak for around a half-second. It wasn&#8217;t the flash that was remarkable (almost certainly a  meteor burning up,) but the color (as I said, brilliant orange rather than whitish). It was anywhere near the horizon where objects appear redder because of light wave variances.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t fully understand it, I realize it is because of my deficit of education on the subject rather than some paranormal phenomena. Why do people always assume the weirdest?</p>
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		<title>By: Stonewall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stonewall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has nothing to do with this post, sorry. I just read your review of Transformers. I LOVE Deborah Foreman. I could watch My Chauffer over and over. In fact, I think I will now!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has nothing to do with this post, sorry. I just read your review of Transformers. I LOVE Deborah Foreman. I could watch My Chauffer over and over. In fact, I think I will now!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 02:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand these folks. When I see something weird in the sky, my first thought isn&#039;t &quot;OH MY GOD IT&#039;S AN UFO!&quot;

...Now, things I describe as &quot;weird in the sky&quot; are certainly UFO to me. But most of the time, these folks associate these with aliens. I sure don&#039;t. It&#039;s just... Something I can&#039;t identify, and there&#039;s a LOT of things coming before &quot;MYSTERIOUS PHENOMENON FROM SCI FI!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand these folks. When I see something weird in the sky, my first thought isn&#8217;t &#8220;OH MY GOD IT&#8217;S AN UFO!&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;Now, things I describe as &#8220;weird in the sky&#8221; are certainly UFO to me. But most of the time, these folks associate these with aliens. I sure don&#8217;t. It&#8217;s just&#8230; Something I can&#8217;t identify, and there&#8217;s a LOT of things coming before &#8220;MYSTERIOUS PHENOMENON FROM SCI FI!&#8221;</p>
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