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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: 500 explosions, 500 reasons to love satellites - Pars3c</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-263380</link>
		<dc:creator>500 explosions, 500 reasons to love satellites - Pars3c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 11:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gamma-ray bursts are explosions of intense energy from almost cataclysmic events in the universe &#8212; things like the creation of black holes or the beginning of a supernova. And in 2008, Swift was lucky enough to be the very first thing to watch the very moment when a star exploded. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gamma-ray bursts are explosions of intense energy from almost cataclysmic events in the universe &#8212; things like the creation of black holes or the beginning of a supernova. And in 2008, Swift was lucky enough to be the very first thing to watch the very moment when a star exploded. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rgyoegf</title>
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		<dc:creator>rgyoegf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 00:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing. Do any of you think a creator made that.</description>
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		<title>By: Blobs excited by hot flashes &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-122581</link>
		<dc:creator>Blobs excited by hot flashes &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 03:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of the exploding star. This &quot;UV breakout&quot; from the shock wave was well known to exist, but it has only been seen directly recently. This new observation gives us indirect evidence of it [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the exploding star. This &quot;UV breakout&quot; from the shock wave was well known to exist, but it has only been seen directly recently. This new observation gives us indirect evidence of it [...]</p>
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		<title>By: groonk dot net &#187; A Supernova is Born. This Time We Saw It!</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90825</link>
		<dc:creator>groonk dot net &#187; A Supernova is Born. This Time We Saw It!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When she got back from her talk, she logged onto the Swift archive to look at the data as it came in, and got a huge surprise. There was a second, new source of X-rays in the field of view… and it was incredibly bright. She quickly realized what she was seeing: a new supernova caught in the act, the X-ray flash of the shock breakout detected for the first time. She realized Swift had caught the birth of supernova 2008D as it was happening. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When she got back from her talk, she logged onto the Swift archive to look at the data as it came in, and got a huge surprise. There was a second, new source of X-rays in the field of view… and it was incredibly bright. She quickly realized what she was seeing: a new supernova caught in the act, the X-ray flash of the shock breakout detected for the first time. She realized Swift had caught the birth of supernova 2008D as it was happening. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dembski, peer review and supernova &#171; Open Parachute</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90824</link>
		<dc:creator>Dembski, peer review and supernova &#171; Open Parachute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Ken on June 2, 2008  Bad Astronomy recently discussed (Birth cry of a supernova) the first time that &#8220;astronomers have unambiguously observed the exact moment when a star [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sebas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90823</link>
		<dc:creator>sebas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 11:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. (great blog, thanks!)
 I&#039;d like to know if the &quot;5 minutes&quot; are the time that usually lasts the x-rays emission (I mean if the x-rays are that instantaneous), or if it is the detection time length?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. (great blog, thanks!)<br />
 I&#8217;d like to know if the &#8220;5 minutes&#8221; are the time that usually lasts the x-rays emission (I mean if the x-rays are that instantaneous), or if it is the detection time length?</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; birth weep of a supernova yanns</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90822</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; birth weep of a supernova yanns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] read more &#124; digg story [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ??? &#124; ??</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90821</link>
		<dc:creator>??? &#124; ??</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 07:00:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ?????????????????????????????????????????????????1?9???????NASA???Swift? ??????????NGC 2770??????????????2007uy?????????????????????X???????????8?????????????? ??????????????????SN 2008D?????X??????1000????10????10^39????????????????????Alicia Soderberg??“???????????”?Bad Astronomy?BBC?arstechnica???? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ?????????????????????????????????????????????????1?9???????NASA???Swift? ??????????NGC 2770??????????????2007uy?????????????????????X???????????8?????????????? ??????????????????SN 2008D?????X??????1000????10????10^39????????????????????Alicia Soderberg??“???????????”?Bad Astronomy?BBC?arstechnica???? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: El Tamiz : Durante la semana - Observado el nacimiento de una supernova</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90820</link>
		<dc:creator>El Tamiz : Durante la semana - Observado el nacimiento de una supernova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2008 19:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Birth cry of a supernova [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hazen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90819</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 17:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C is variable !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_speed_of_light

No really it is, Einstein was wrong which is why we have so much trouble with quantum mechanics and no GUT that works.

Take the tokamak for instance, how many stars look like a donut?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>C is variable !</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_speed_of_light" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_speed_of_light</a></p>
<p>No really it is, Einstein was wrong which is why we have so much trouble with quantum mechanics and no GUT that works.</p>
<p>Take the tokamak for instance, how many stars look like a donut?</p>
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		<title>By: Atheist.nu &#187; Universe Now Twice as Bright</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90818</link>
		<dc:creator>Atheist.nu &#187; Universe Now Twice as Bright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 14:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Astronomers tell us of very cool things that they think happen in the universe based on theoretical proofs, but rarely do we see the visual evidence. For example, we know that stars explode, but we don&#8217;t get to see it happen. But now that is not the case. Here is an article with photos with just that happening!  [From Bad Astronomy Blog &#187; Birth cry of a supernova] [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Astronomers tell us of very cool things that they think happen in the universe based on theoretical proofs, but rarely do we see the visual evidence. For example, we know that stars explode, but we don&#8217;t get to see it happen. But now that is not the case. Here is an article with photos with just that happening!  [From Bad Astronomy Blog &#187; Birth cry of a supernova] [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90817</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 13:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: other scientists turning over their telescopes...

Don&#039;t worry, they are very likely listed as co-authors on the paper.

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008arXiv0802.1712S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: other scientists turning over their telescopes&#8230;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry, they are very likely listed as co-authors on the paper.</p>
<p><a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008arXiv0802.1712S" rel="nofollow">http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2008arXiv0802.1712S</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90816</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 11:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! Nice!</description>
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		<title>By: MarkW</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90815</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 07:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the nucleosynthesis explanations people. 8) I clean forgot about solar (stellar) winds. D&#039;oh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the nucleosynthesis explanations people. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> I clean forgot about solar (stellar) winds. D&#8217;oh!</p>
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		<title>By: Supernova observations at Hoyden About Town</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90814</link>
		<dc:creator>Supernova observations at Hoyden About Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 06:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More from the Bad Astronomer. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: flo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90813</link>
		<dc:creator>flo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 03:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. fascinating.
10,000 km/sec- i feel so insignificant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. fascinating.<br />
10,000 km/sec- i feel so insignificant</p>
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		<title>By: FFPF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90812</link>
		<dc:creator>FFPF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 01:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic read. Thanks for writing it so well!</description>
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		<title>By: Stark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90811</link>
		<dc:creator>Stark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 22:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, just a thing for a few of the folks who are confused about when the supernova happened : yes, it happended 84 million years ago in local time - that is time near the star that exploded.  Now, we do not refer to it that way from here.  From here we say it happened last Tuesday.  The reason for this is simple - it would be much too confusing to refrence things by their absolute ages  - especially when those ages don&#039;t mean anyhting particularly useful to us.  It&#039;s far easier for our minds to refrence astronmical phenomena and ojects by their discovery date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, just a thing for a few of the folks who are confused about when the supernova happened : yes, it happended 84 million years ago in local time &#8211; that is time near the star that exploded.  Now, we do not refer to it that way from here.  From here we say it happened last Tuesday.  The reason for this is simple &#8211; it would be much too confusing to refrence things by their absolute ages  &#8211; especially when those ages don&#8217;t mean anyhting particularly useful to us.  It&#8217;s far easier for our minds to refrence astronmical phenomena and ojects by their discovery date.</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90810</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chas,


Thanks for making the comment for me, so I didn&#039;t have to.


Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chas,</p>
<p>Thanks for making the comment for me, so I didn&#8217;t have to.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: 86 Words &#187; A Once in MANY Lifetimes event...</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90809</link>
		<dc:creator>86 Words &#187; A Once in MANY Lifetimes event...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] - Bad Astronomy Article - [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Link of the day: Supernova &#171; The Ironism</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90808</link>
		<dc:creator>Link of the day: Supernova &#171; The Ironism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 20:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Bad Astronomer and the birth of a supernova. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90807</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 19:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We only just had astronomical confirmation of new supernovae in the 1970s, &amp; someone&#039;s already gotten shots of one taken right at the moment of its origin?!

Very cool indeed ... &amp; Alicia Soderberg definitely won the Astronomy Lottery. With bells on.

I think it&#039;ll be quite a while before anyone gets this lucky again - although there may be new arrays that can stack the probability deck in our favour in years to come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We only just had astronomical confirmation of new supernovae in the 1970s, &amp; someone&#8217;s already gotten shots of one taken right at the moment of its origin?!</p>
<p>Very cool indeed &#8230; &amp; Alicia Soderberg definitely won the Astronomy Lottery. With bells on.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;ll be quite a while before anyone gets this lucky again &#8211; although there may be new arrays that can stack the probability deck in our favour in years to come.</p>
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		<title>By: David P.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/21/birth-cry-of-a-supernova/comment-page-3/#comment-90806</link>
		<dc:creator>David P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commenting on William R. Hix&#039;s comment above:

&quot;5) If current simulations are to be believed, the core collapse timescale is more like a couple tenths of a second, however by the end, just before the bounce, the matter is falling in as fast as 20% of the speed of light.&quot;

That much matter going from essentially motionless to 20% of the speed of light, in that tiny time scale... is simply incomprehensible to my tiny mind. The energy that has to be involved is just... amazing. No other word for it.

It&#039;s things like this that I think can make science so awe-inspiring, independent of one&#039;s personal philosophies and religious beliefs. The universe is simply stunning, regardless of what (or who) we think brought it about in the first place.

I am feeling very, very tiny right now as I eat my lunchtime salad and read all this, but very, very big as I feel privileged that I/we can observe and appreciate what&#039;s happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commenting on William R. Hix&#8217;s comment above:</p>
<p>&#8220;5) If current simulations are to be believed, the core collapse timescale is more like a couple tenths of a second, however by the end, just before the bounce, the matter is falling in as fast as 20% of the speed of light.&#8221;</p>
<p>That much matter going from essentially motionless to 20% of the speed of light, in that tiny time scale&#8230; is simply incomprehensible to my tiny mind. The energy that has to be involved is just&#8230; amazing. No other word for it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s things like this that I think can make science so awe-inspiring, independent of one&#8217;s personal philosophies and religious beliefs. The universe is simply stunning, regardless of what (or who) we think brought it about in the first place.</p>
<p>I am feeling very, very tiny right now as I eat my lunchtime salad and read all this, but very, very big as I feel privileged that I/we can observe and appreciate what&#8217;s happening.</p>
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		<title>By: William Raphael Hix</title>
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		<dc:creator>William Raphael Hix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 18:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I work on supernovae and nucleosynthesis professionally, I thought I&#039;d clear up a couple points that have arisen in the comments.

1) The carbon in the Solar System was probably made in Red Giants, but any silicon observed in a Red Giant was made in a prior star.

2) Core collapse supernovae are responsible for the Solar System composition of Oxygen, Magnesium, Silicon, Sulfur, Calcium and their neighbors.  CC SN are also responsible for roughly half of all Iron-Nickel-Cobalt elements in the solar system.  These are all observed in supernova remnants.

3) Elements heavier that iron are made in two processes, the s-process, which occurs in Red Giants, and the r-process.  In both cases, these heavy fusion reactions require energy input, thus they can not provide energy to the hydrostatic stellar core.  In both cases, these heavy elements are made in small amounts in regions dominated by helium and other light elements.

4) While we understand the r-process pretty well on a microscopic level, we have quite a few potential places this could occur, including merging neutron stars and several variations of supernovae.  All of these scenarios currently have significant problems, so there is room to argue in favor of your favorite.  Unfortunately, the r-process represents such a small part of the ejected mass, it&#039;s very unlikely to directly observe r-process elements in any of these events.

5) If current simulations are to be believed, the core collapse timescale is more like a couple tenths of a second, however by the end, just before the bounce, the matter is falling in as fast as 20% of the speed of light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I work on supernovae and nucleosynthesis professionally, I thought I&#8217;d clear up a couple points that have arisen in the comments.</p>
<p>1) The carbon in the Solar System was probably made in Red Giants, but any silicon observed in a Red Giant was made in a prior star.</p>
<p>2) Core collapse supernovae are responsible for the Solar System composition of Oxygen, Magnesium, Silicon, Sulfur, Calcium and their neighbors.  CC SN are also responsible for roughly half of all Iron-Nickel-Cobalt elements in the solar system.  These are all observed in supernova remnants.</p>
<p>3) Elements heavier that iron are made in two processes, the s-process, which occurs in Red Giants, and the r-process.  In both cases, these heavy fusion reactions require energy input, thus they can not provide energy to the hydrostatic stellar core.  In both cases, these heavy elements are made in small amounts in regions dominated by helium and other light elements.</p>
<p>4) While we understand the r-process pretty well on a microscopic level, we have quite a few potential places this could occur, including merging neutron stars and several variations of supernovae.  All of these scenarios currently have significant problems, so there is room to argue in favor of your favorite.  Unfortunately, the r-process represents such a small part of the ejected mass, it&#8217;s very unlikely to directly observe r-process elements in any of these events.</p>
<p>5) If current simulations are to be believed, the core collapse timescale is more like a couple tenths of a second, however by the end, just before the bounce, the matter is falling in as fast as 20% of the speed of light.</p>
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		<title>By: MojoJoeJoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>MojoJoeJoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 17:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># Alanon 22 May 2008 at 10:44 am

You&#039;re exactly right.  This occurred roughly 84 million years ago, local time.</description>
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<p>You&#8217;re exactly right.  This occurred roughly 84 million years ago, local time.</p>
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