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Jupiter’s got acne!

Poor Jupiter. It’s breaking out*.

The Great Red Spot is a vast, planet-sized hurricane that’s been blowing on Jupiter for hundreds of years. In 2006 it was joined by a smaller storm — though still thousands of miles across — called Oval BA (no relation).

And now a third red spot has popped up!

The third storm (the smaller one in the middle left on the Hubble picture above) was a more normal whitish oval up until recently, when it suddenly turned red. It’s unclear why; in general the colors of the storms indicate their chemical composition, and red usually means complex organic compounds. Maybe they were dredged up from deep beneath Jupiter’s cloud tops, or maybe the storm gained altitude, high enough that incoming solar ultraviolet light was able to reassemble the molecules into new ones that are red (that’s called photolysis, for those keeping track at home). That last idea is supported by the idea that the storm is bright in infrared — usually, methane in Jupiter’s atmosphere absorbs infrared light, so the only way a storm can be bright in IR is for it to rise above most of the methane in the air.

That means that if you could see this from the side, it would look like a bump, or a welt, or, well, a pimple rising above the face of Jupiter. But don’t be fooled: if transported to Earth, even that small spot would cover most of a hemisphere.

Jupiter is monstrously big.

It’s also a mess. All we can see of Jupiter is the top layers of its atmosphere; but the atmosphere goes down thousands and thousands of kilometers. As the pressure increases with depth the gas turns slowly into liquid; there is no boundary where you can say "here be surface".

The tops of the clouds we see are incredibly dynamic. Jupiter spins more than twice as fast as the Earth, and is 11 times the diameter, so the Coriolis effect – which powers the spin of hurricanes on Earth — is hugely more effective on Jupiter. Also, unlike the Earth which gets most of its heat from the Sun, Jupiter is very warm inside, and so the atmosphere is heated both from above and from below.

This makes, obviously, for a messy, messy, world. Understanding Jupiter’s complex dynamics will keep atmospheric scientists employed for centuries… probably sponsored by Clearasil.



*What’s next? Blackheads?

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May 22nd, 2008 10:21 AM by Phil Plait in Astronomy, Cool stuff, NASA, Science, Space | 33 comments | RSS feed | Trackback >

33 Responses to “Jupiter’s got acne!”

  1. 1.   Chris Cardinal Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 10:25 am

    This is clearly because of global warming on Earth, right? Yet another negative externality, much like the supernova that was witnessed the other day?

    The end times, they are a coming, I tell you.

    More seriously, any chance the big red spot storm will come to an end in any of our lifetimes? Or is the Coriolis effect simply too strong? Why doesn’t it grow, then? Has it found a nice, healthy, perpetuating equilibrium?

    Nice blog and keep up the good work!

  2. 2.   Thethyme Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 10:31 am

    Is there any way to tell if or when the storms will end? Why does the red stop hurricane continue for centuries, why doesn’t the storm dissipate at some point? Just curious

  3. 3.   Shoeshine Boy Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 am

    “As the pressure increases with depth the gas turns slowly into liquid”

    How totally alien to our Earthly experience.

  4. 4.   Richard Wolford Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Aw, these guys grow up so fast. Before long Jupiter will be dating before going off to college and getting a job.

    Seriously, this is a really cool post, How anyone can be opposed to science is simply beyond me.

  5. 5.   Carey Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 10:57 am

    You have brought on a question, BA, that will consume your very mind for entire minutes!

    If the Coriolis effect is so much stronger on Jupiter than on Earth, would it have an effect on a small, short-lived vortex like, say, a toilet flushing?

  6. 6.   Gnat Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 11:03 am

    I know that the term “hurricane” is used, but could the new spot be more like a tornado? I realize the all the spots are mind-numbingly large, but is that the only reason “hurricane” is used? Tornados are more like vacuum cleaners…dredging up from the bottom…sorta.

    And I want to know that answer to Carey’s questions too!

  7. 7.   Todd W. Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 11:19 am

    Any likelihood that the two smaller storms could merge with the Big Red Spot ™?

  8. 8.   John Paradox Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 11:34 am

    OMG! We’ve been having Measles outbreaks in Southern Arizona, and now it’s spread to JUPITER!?
    ;)

    J/P=?

  9. 9.   Todd W. Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 11:40 am

    @J/P=?

    The anti-vax movement has more power than I thought!

  10. 10.   SkepticTim Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 11:47 am

    It is interesting to note that both the great red spot, and the little red spot spin anticyclonicaly, opposite to the circulation of hurricanes, tornadoes and other violent storms on earth. I wonder if this new spot is also an anticyclone.
    Also, the great red spot is observed to be slowly fading while the little red spot is growing in strength: is it significant that all of the new spots are forming in the same region as the old spot: (perhaps replacing it)? What, I wonder, is causing these vortices to form in this particular location: some deep energy source perhaps?

  11. 11.   James H. Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    I remember a presentation (NOVA perhaps?) a few years ago where several scientists were attempting to generate a computer model of Jupiter’s complex system, and after a while they succeded in forming large cyclonic storms just like you see on Jupiter and sometimes on the other gas planets as well. I wish I could remember the name of that now, but I’m getting old….and getting spots too…I’ll try and looking it up and post it here.

  12. 12.   Daniel Fischer Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Have a look at this Jupiter movie a German amateur astronomer took in late April with a methane-band filter: All three storms are clearly visible! A Berkeley/Keck press release actually hails the contributions of amateur astronomers whose work nicely augments Hubble and Keck.

  13. 13.   Greg23 Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Jupiter’s bands are so artistically beautiful (sorry Carolyn/Saturn).

    I have a new screensaver.

  14. 14.   wright Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    If blackheads start popping out of Jupiter, does that mean Velikovsky was right??

  15. 15.   Sili Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Is that a vortex street?

    Absolutely beautiful either way.

  16. 16.   John Paradox Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Todd W.
    The anti-vax movement has more power than I thought!

    This just in: NASA and the CDC have started a joint mission to vaccinate planets!
    ;)

    J/P=?

  17. 17.   Lugosi Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    So are you suggesting that Jupiter is going through puberty?

  18. 18.   Thomas Siefert Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    Looks like an English breakfast.

  19. 19.   Torbjörn Larsson, OM Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 6:18 pm

    What, I wonder, is causing these vortices to form in this particular location: some deep energy source perhaps?

    Or an effect of the first disturbance affecting its environment? It comes down to understanding their dynamics.

  20. 20.   Jeffersonian Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 6:36 pm

    I just loved reading this post. Never get tired of the J-man, ju-pit-tair!

  21. 21.   CR Says:
    May 22nd, 2008 at 11:18 pm

    Oval BA passed the GRS at least once that I read about, and neither merged with the other, but they are at differenet latitudes. This new spot appears to be aligned with the GRS. Are they converging? And if so, might they merge?

  22. 22.   sprocket Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 1:28 am

    It’s not acne. It’s just that the old red spot has had a couple of kids. Life on Jupiter staring us in the face?

  23. 23.   Geomancer Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 am

    “It’s unclear why; in general the colors of the storms indicate their chemical composition, and red usually means complex organic compounds. Maybe they were dredged up from deep beneath Jupiter’s cloud tops, or maybe the storm gained altitude, high enough that incoming solar ultraviolet light was able to reassemble the molecules into new ones that are red (that’s called photolysis, for those keeping track at home). That last idea is supported by the idea that the storm is bright in infrared — usually, methane in Jupiter’s atmosphere absorbs infrared light, so the only way a storm can be bright in IR is for it to rise above most of the methane in the air.”

    Forgive me my ignorance, but I was unaware that any “organic” compounds had been well documented elsewhere in the Solar system… Am I simply out of touch (a real possibility since my focus is on systems on Earth, not elsewhere), or is your definition of ‘organic’ different from mine (which is something akin to “produced by an organism”). I realize that non-biogenic systems can yield biogenic-seeming isotopic signals (take a peek at iron isotopes, for example), and that complex hydrocarbons can arise through abiogenic means, but…I don’t think that’s quite the same thing.

    I guess the short version is “organic” implies a biogenic origin, at least in some disciplines…so how, exactly, are you defining it?

    (thanks in advance, and sorry to be a stickler, but I’ve found that many scientific fields use words in a slightly different manner, and “organic” is one that I think needs to be well defined in any context)

  24. 24.   Russ Brown Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 4:00 am

    Is it just me, or does the Great Red Spot now look like a nipple?

    Fair enough, I thought. As we recently had a Thingy on Mars.

  25. 25.   andy Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 4:57 am

    Geomancer: “organic” refers to any molecule containing both carbon and hydrogen, which is the typical usage in chemistry I think. The name dates back from when it was thought that organic compounds could only be synthesised by living organisms through some kind of “life force”. This theory has been proven false, but the name remains.

    (Some sources relax the hydrogen requirement, but graphite and diamond are NOT usually treated as organic compounds, nor are carbonates)

  26. 26.   DarkSapiens Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 6:34 am

    Excellent explanation, Phil, as always.

    I couldn’t resist to translate this post into Spanish. The result is here:

    http://cidam.es/foro/viewtopic.php?t=297

    If translating this is wrong, or I don’t have your permission, please, PLEASE tell me.

    I didn’t want to violate copyright, just make this information and your incredible way to explain things available to Spanish speakers.

    Regards.

  27. 27.   Dorfl Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 7:14 am

    Question about this: Jupiter spins fast and is a lot larger than earth.

    Any evidence Jupiter is slowing down? Earth’s rotation is slowing down (Because of the moons/tidal waves, I think, please enlighten me if wrong). Jupiter obviously has a lot more rotational momentum (not sure whether that’s the same expression in English as in my native language) but still, shouldn’t the big guy slow down over time?

  28. 28.   NoAstronomer Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 7:27 am

    This picture is APOD for May 22nd. Acccording to their description:

    ‘If the motion continues, the new spot will encounter the much larger storm system in August’

    The much larger storm system being the Great Red Spot. Allright!

  29. 29.   AlexBenjM Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 7:58 am

    Dorfl, you’re pretty close, the exact expression is angular momentum. Jupiter’s got so much of it that any tidal friction from its many tiny moons and the distant sun is probably close to negligible. Over extremely long time spans, Jupiter will slow down a little bit but I wonder if we would even notice any difference if we were still around.

    If there’s no friction or any energy interactions, Jupiter will rotate forever. Because it’s got angular momentum doesn’t necessarily mean it will eventually slow down like tops on Earth where there’s plenty of friction.

  30. 30.   AlexBenjM Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 8:05 am

    I just had a thought, have anybody done any modelling or research on what would happen to Jupiter in the distant future as it settles down to an equilibrium? I seem to remember somebody predicting that assuming nothing else significantly disturbs it in the distant future, Jupiter’ll lose all traces of colors and become a bluish color as it reaches a chemical and thermal equilibrium.

    Eventually Jupiter’s energy sources will run out and the sun will go nova, when that occurs, will it be enough to strip Jupiter of all of its atmosphere or will it just sail through and settle down to a quiet state?

  31. 31.   DennyMo Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 8:09 am

    Oh come on, we all know the increased storm activity is due to all greenhouse gases the Jovian people are polluting their atmosphere with. (Well, somebody had to say it. ;) )

  32. 32.   Geomancer Says:
    May 23rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Thanks, andy!

  33. 33.   Jupiter’s Red Spot chews up and spits out a storm | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine Says:
    July 17th, 2008 at 10:15 am

    [...] the first panel you can see the smaller storm on the left (this is the same storm we saw in May, when Jupiter suddenly got acne). In the middle panel, taken about six weeks later, it just [...]

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