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	<title>Comments on: Dunkin&#8217; Donutsoid</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: F.I.D.O.89</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/28/dunkin-donutsoid/comment-page-5/#comment-92823</link>
		<dc:creator>F.I.D.O.89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 03:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But why am I bothering. You are probably running around in a Che t-shirt&quot;

 Boy, wou couldn&#039;t be farther from the truth on that. I don&#039;t even wear anything with coporate logos on them!

 Yes, I do think it is dumb for someone to wear one of those, espically if it isn&#039;t COLD (the ones I saw in the store were in Hawaii!).  Again I will say this-I have been wearing a real one, on and off for 20 years, usually when it was cold.

 Wearing a scarf like that (especially one of these cheesy ones) makes you as much a Terrorist the way a LAPD SWAT or Military unit Tshirt makes you a member of that unit.

  As for the term &quot;hate fashion&quot;-I hadn&#039;t even heard of it before this: I just thought of things like Che, Mao, and C. Manson shirts (etc)  as more pop culture drivel, worn by people that were for the most part unaware of who those folks really were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But why am I bothering. You are probably running around in a Che t-shirt&#8221;</p>
<p> Boy, wou couldn&#8217;t be farther from the truth on that. I don&#8217;t even wear anything with coporate logos on them!</p>
<p> Yes, I do think it is dumb for someone to wear one of those, espically if it isn&#8217;t COLD (the ones I saw in the store were in Hawaii!).  Again I will say this-I have been wearing a real one, on and off for 20 years, usually when it was cold.</p>
<p> Wearing a scarf like that (especially one of these cheesy ones) makes you as much a Terrorist the way a LAPD SWAT or Military unit Tshirt makes you a member of that unit.</p>
<p>  As for the term &#8220;hate fashion&#8221;-I hadn&#8217;t even heard of it before this: I just thought of things like Che, Mao, and C. Manson shirts (etc)  as more pop culture drivel, worn by people that were for the most part unaware of who those folks really were.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/28/dunkin-donutsoid/comment-page-5/#comment-92822</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 05:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having witnessed the arrival of Dunkin&#039; Donuts to New Zealand, and tasted them, I can only say: I am so very, very sorry.

Dunkin&#039; Donuts have mastered the seemingly impossible art of making fried, sugared dough taste BAD. It&#039;s impressive evil food science, but wow.

I&#039;d boycott them on that grounds alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having witnessed the arrival of Dunkin&#8217; Donuts to New Zealand, and tasted them, I can only say: I am so very, very sorry.</p>
<p>Dunkin&#8217; Donuts have mastered the seemingly impossible art of making fried, sugared dough taste BAD. It&#8217;s impressive evil food science, but wow.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d boycott them on that grounds alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/28/dunkin-donutsoid/comment-page-5/#comment-92821</link>
		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 03:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hey Mark, if you think it’s nutty to boycott a company that gives into racism, then good riddance.&lt;/i&gt;

Calling for boycott is overreaction at the SAME LEVEL as Malkin&#039;s original reaction to the ad. You&#039;re no better than her.

Anyone boycotting DD over this needs to get a life and get over themselves.

Wow. You&#039;re boycotting a donut shop that will probably never miss you. Way to strike a blow, folks. Way to strike at the unfortunate target of an ideological extremist.

Way to travel unerringly to the complete antipode of skepticism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hey Mark, if you think it’s nutty to boycott a company that gives into racism, then good riddance.</i></p>
<p>Calling for boycott is overreaction at the SAME LEVEL as Malkin&#8217;s original reaction to the ad. You&#8217;re no better than her.</p>
<p>Anyone boycotting DD over this needs to get a life and get over themselves.</p>
<p>Wow. You&#8217;re boycotting a donut shop that will probably never miss you. Way to strike a blow, folks. Way to strike at the unfortunate target of an ideological extremist.</p>
<p>Way to travel unerringly to the complete antipode of skepticism.</p>
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		<title>By: F.I.D.O.89</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/28/dunkin-donutsoid/comment-page-5/#comment-92820</link>
		<dc:creator>F.I.D.O.89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear God, I didn&#039;t think this would go on this long!
 either I just noticed, or they got insanely more popular since I saw this blog: they are being sold in mall &quot;fashion&quot; stores for anywhere between 30-48$. They aren&#039;t even made right-a little thin, and not even colored well.  One could also ask whay anyone would wear one in the summer (I saw them on mannequins with beach clothes!)
 But then again, we live in an age were people wear things that they can&#039;t explain-Tibetian scarves, &quot;tribal&quot; tatoos, shirts with pictures of folks they don&#039;t know the history of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear God, I didn&#8217;t think this would go on this long!<br />
 either I just noticed, or they got insanely more popular since I saw this blog: they are being sold in mall &#8220;fashion&#8221; stores for anywhere between 30-48$. They aren&#8217;t even made right-a little thin, and not even colored well.  One could also ask whay anyone would wear one in the summer (I saw them on mannequins with beach clothes!)<br />
 But then again, we live in an age were people wear things that they can&#8217;t explain-Tibetian scarves, &#8220;tribal&#8221; tatoos, shirts with pictures of folks they don&#8217;t know the history of.</p>
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		<title>By: Celtic_Evolution</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/28/dunkin-donutsoid/comment-page-5/#comment-92819</link>
		<dc:creator>Celtic_Evolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Brian Macker

&lt;blockquote&gt;You guys expressed comments as if you were unaware that terrorish chic didn’t exist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No... that&#039;s your interpretation.  What we&#039;ve said, &lt;i&gt;repeatedly&lt;/i&gt;, is that in &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; case, it&#039;s a scarf.  Period.  And saying so doesn&#039;t make us ignorant of the concept of hateful &quot;terrorist chic&quot;.  It simply makes us unwilling to accept stupidity, fear, and hatred dictating our ability to interpret any given item as something it isn&#039;t.

You wanna live that way, feel free... but don&#039;t berate the rest of us for refusing to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Brian Macker</p>
<blockquote><p>You guys expressed comments as if you were unaware that terrorish chic didn’t exist.</p></blockquote>
<p>No&#8230; that&#8217;s your interpretation.  What we&#8217;ve said, <i>repeatedly</i>, is that in <i>this</i> case, it&#8217;s a scarf.  Period.  And saying so doesn&#8217;t make us ignorant of the concept of hateful &#8220;terrorist chic&#8221;.  It simply makes us unwilling to accept stupidity, fear, and hatred dictating our ability to interpret any given item as something it isn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>You wanna live that way, feel free&#8230; but don&#8217;t berate the rest of us for refusing to.</p>
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		<title>By: DrMatt</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/28/dunkin-donutsoid/comment-page-5/#comment-92818</link>
		<dc:creator>DrMatt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 22:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been photographed in something that looks like a kaffiyeh. Oh, wait, it was a tallith, that&#039;s considered a symbol of Jewish culture. *shrug* I still get groceries at grocery stores, even though there aren&#039;t any in town that don&#039;t sell homeopathic fraud. Just another way in which I&#039;m not Michelle Malkin (no matter how much we look alike).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been photographed in something that looks like a kaffiyeh. Oh, wait, it was a tallith, that&#8217;s considered a symbol of Jewish culture. *shrug* I still get groceries at grocery stores, even though there aren&#8217;t any in town that don&#8217;t sell homeopathic fraud. Just another way in which I&#8217;m not Michelle Malkin (no matter how much we look alike).</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Macker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/05/28/dunkin-donutsoid/comment-page-5/#comment-92817</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Macker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Celtic,

No that&#039;s not what I said.    In summary I quoted some admissions of ignorance.  Pointed out that the real hate fashion stuff exists.    Then I dismissed the idea that it&#039;s needed to keep out blowing sand in urban settings.    WTF, does Urban Outfitters mean to you?   I also linked to some pictures of t-shirts with terrorists on it if the concept of symbolism was beyond your ken.

You guys expressed comments as if you were unaware that terrorish chic didn&#039;t exist.   This thing resembled this kind of political fashion crap.   At no point did I say it was a kiffiyeh, nor did I say she knew anything about it.  Ray is probably as ignorant about this as the next guy.

Even the original article said it resembled one, not that it was one.  People can boycott what they want.

In fact it does resemble the ones being sold, frills and all.  If it&#039;s paisley that a subdesign because the checkered pattern of the kiffiyeh is pretty clear in the picture.   Can&#039;t tell if it is square like a kiffiyeh or long like a scarf from the picture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Celtic,</p>
<p>No that&#8217;s not what I said.    In summary I quoted some admissions of ignorance.  Pointed out that the real hate fashion stuff exists.    Then I dismissed the idea that it&#8217;s needed to keep out blowing sand in urban settings.    WTF, does Urban Outfitters mean to you?   I also linked to some pictures of t-shirts with terrorists on it if the concept of symbolism was beyond your ken.</p>
<p>You guys expressed comments as if you were unaware that terrorish chic didn&#8217;t exist.   This thing resembled this kind of political fashion crap.   At no point did I say it was a kiffiyeh, nor did I say she knew anything about it.  Ray is probably as ignorant about this as the next guy.</p>
<p>Even the original article said it resembled one, not that it was one.  People can boycott what they want.</p>
<p>In fact it does resemble the ones being sold, frills and all.  If it&#8217;s paisley that a subdesign because the checkered pattern of the kiffiyeh is pretty clear in the picture.   Can&#8217;t tell if it is square like a kiffiyeh or long like a scarf from the picture.</p>
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