Boy, wou couldn’t be farther from the truth on that. I don’t even wear anything with coporate logos on them!

Yes, I do think it is dumb for someone to wear one of those, espically if it isn’t COLD (the ones I saw in the store were in Hawaii!). Again I will say this-I have been wearing a real one, on and off for 20 years, usually when it was cold.

Wearing a scarf like that (especially one of these cheesy ones) makes you as much a Terrorist the way a LAPD SWAT or Military unit Tshirt makes you a member of that unit.

As for the term “hate fashion”-I hadn’t even heard of it before this: I just thought of things like Che, Mao, and C. Manson shirts (etc) as more pop culture drivel, worn by people that were for the most part unaware of who those folks really were.

Dunkin’ Donuts have mastered the seemingly impossible art of making fried, sugared dough taste BAD. It’s impressive evil food science, but wow.

I’d boycott them on that grounds alone.

Calling for boycott is overreaction at the SAME LEVEL as Malkin’s original reaction to the ad. You’re no better than her.

Anyone boycotting DD over this needs to get a life and get over themselves.

Wow. You’re boycotting a donut shop that will probably never miss you. Way to strike a blow, folks. Way to strike at the unfortunate target of an ideological extremist.

Way to travel unerringly to the complete antipode of skepticism.

You guys expressed comments as if you were unaware that terrorish chic didn’t exist.

No… that’s your interpretation. What we’ve said, repeatedly, is that in this case, it’s a scarf. Period. And saying so doesn’t make us ignorant of the concept of hateful “terrorist chic”. It simply makes us unwilling to accept stupidity, fear, and hatred dictating our ability to interpret any given item as something it isn’t.

You wanna live that way, feel free… but don’t berate the rest of us for refusing to.

No that’s not what I said. In summary I quoted some admissions of ignorance. Pointed out that the real hate fashion stuff exists. Then I dismissed the idea that it’s needed to keep out blowing sand in urban settings. WTF, does Urban Outfitters mean to you? I also linked to some pictures of t-shirts with terrorists on it if the concept of symbolism was beyond your ken.

You guys expressed comments as if you were unaware that terrorish chic didn’t exist. This thing resembled this kind of political fashion crap. At no point did I say it was a kiffiyeh, nor did I say she knew anything about it. Ray is probably as ignorant about this as the next guy.

Even the original article said it resembled one, not that it was one. People can boycott what they want.

In fact it does resemble the ones being sold, frills and all. If it’s paisley that a subdesign because the checkered pattern of the kiffiyeh is pretty clear in the picture. Can’t tell if it is square like a kiffiyeh or long like a scarf from the picture.

>>>‘‘In a recent online ad, Rachael Ray is wearing a black-and-white silk scarf with a paisley design. It was selected by her stylist for the advertising shoot. Absolutely no symbolism was intended. However, given the possibility of misperception, we are no longer using the commercial.’’

So it really WAS paisley. (Not that it matters even if it wasn’t)

Excuse me while I bang my head a thousand times against a ten foot armoured steel block, cook it in an oven – yes, the block as well as my head – chop it off, jump off a cliff while wearing a Homer Simpson costume and attempt to use a cocktail umbrella as a parachute and shouting “wibble, my old man’s a mushroom”, all the while listening to abba songs playing backwards so I can hear the hidden messages from Satan, in my attempt to reach the same level of STOOPID!

Repeat after me… slowly so’s it’ll sink in:

She wasn’t wearing a kiffiyeh… she was wearing a scarf.

But yeah… you cracked it… you’re on to her. She was either intentionally wearing a scarf that looked like a kiffiyeh in order to impose her political viewpoint of hatred to all donut eaters everywhere. OR if she WASN’T doing it on purpose, well then she was just plain ignorant and deserves public scorn…

Thanks for the false dichotomy. Always a crowd pleaser.

And yes, I am a contrarian. My reaction to fashion in general is to ask “How dare you try to tell me what to wear?”

Agreed! And something you would realize immediately if you ever saw me out in public…

“I didn’t know there WAS such a thing as ‘hate fashion!’”

Rich:

“‘Hate couture’ that’s a new one. … The idea that an article of clothing could itself symbolize terrorism is crazy.”

Get edumacated. Reduce your ignorance.

Kind of sad because the companies and fashion designers selling this stuff are injecting their politics into this stuff. When really it should only be an article of clothing.

This kind of think happens all the time. Look up the history of the Scottish Kilt. More politics than true historical clothing article.

“The principle of the Keffiyeh is to protect from heat and sand.”

“They started as practical desert garments and continue to serve that purpose, …”

In Manhattan? I don’t think so.

These things are worn for political reasons and also by the clueless. Other people cluing you in doesn’t mean they are paranoid. Just that you are ignorant.

But why am I bothering. You are probably running around in a Che t-shirt.

Ragutis beat me to it, but I’ll second his statement, and add that if vapid viewers of “What not to wear” are wearing something because they saw it in a fashion magazine it is a symbol of nothing but their own intellectual sheep-hood.

And yes, I am a contrarian. My reaction to fashion in general is to ask “How dare you try to tell me what to wear?”

Unreal Dunkin Donuts. Have some corporate spine, will you? Unnecessary and uncalled for.

When we start letting an extremely vague and imaginative association to some symbolic dress code begin to rule our lives, isn’t that a sign that the bad guys are winning? I don’t believe that they are, but we can’t allow ourselves to live in such a sorry state of unreasonable fear and overreaction. When paranoia starts to infiltrate our common sense and forces us react to nothing in particular, that is the real danger to the values and spirit of this country. We have become enemies of ourselves.

If Malkin is so deeply paranoid and frightened of her own insecurities about the world she lives in, maybe she ought to go stick her head in the sand and hide. Oh, wait. Sand might be thought of as supporting…

I was exploring the possibility that some might think the whole film was a crime . . .

Dave: Maybe my humour was a tad understated (or British, as we like to call it *grins*)

“M[in]e, too.”

“Ideally, I want everyone to wear the kaffiyeh,” says Habib, “but if it’s just worn for the aesthetic value, without the spirit of resistance wrapped up in every thread, then they might as well not wear it at all, and if it becomes appropriated by commercial interests, then that’s even worse.”

So, even if it was a kaffiyah (which it wasn’t), RR wearing it as simply a convenient fashion accessory in an advertisement makes it meaningless as a symbol.

Seriously, I’m pretty sure most Arabs that wear the damn things everyday don’t give Palestine a moment’s thought when they put in on in the morning, or indeed the whole day. Many gangs have appropriated baseball caps and team colors as their symbols. So when you buy your Yankee or Raiders gear at the local mall, are you supporting gangbangers?

Palestines Avenging Ghosts (actually, Dave too) : While some truly horrific things have been inflicted on the Palestinian people, and thousands of innocents have suffered at the hands of the Israelis, it’s not like you lot are angels either. (Dave, just switch “Palestinians” and “Israelis”) Here’s the problem with any hope for peace there: both sides bear blame. Until both admit their portion AND forgive the other for theirs, that region of the planet and it’s liberals and moderates, it’s mothers, wives and children will suffer and die because arrogant leaders will not accept responsibility and sacrifice a bit of pride for peace. To both sides: grow up or die. I personally don’t give a damn. For all I care, let the U.N. take over and make the whole region some “World Park” dedicated to ancient mythology and remembering the victims of religious violence.

It’s humoring time:
* Palestinian identity and anti-conformity are terrorist notions
* Wearing a kaffiyeh can promote feelings of solidarity
* Doing this can encourage terrorism
* Wearing something that even resembles a kaffiyeh could lead to such tragedies
* Therefore, we should not wear anything that even resembles a kaffiyeh

The general rule seems to be that if it’s an evil symbol, don’t wear something that even loosely resembles it. Otherwise, you risk promoting such evil.

And finally, it’s observation time:
* The Christian cross loosely resembles a swastika

I wonder how Malkin feels about people promoting Nazis. (And yes, I’m trying to invoke Godwin’s law–seriously, though, the swastika is a nod reference to people on her blog talking about this very issue, defending Malkin).

“The kaffiyeh is a visual extension of our struggle</b?, a way to be a thorn in the silence,” says Ahmad Habib, Iraqi refugee and a member of the Arab Cultural Resistance music group. “Everywhere, from the Arab world to Toronto, people dress up to paint the world with conformity and indifference. The kaffiyeh stands in the way of that.”

“Ideally, I want everyone to wear the kaffiyeh,” says Habib, “but if it’s just worn for the aesthetic value, without the spirit of resistance wrapped up in every thread, then they might as well not wear it at all, and if it becomes appropriated by commercial interests, then that’s even worse.”

Perhaps all those people in this thread who claimed that the kaffiyeh is “just a scarf”, or slagged off MM will now apologise since it is abundantly clear she was right (in this instance) and they were wrong?

Germans can be funny

This does not, of course, alter the fact that Michelle Malkin is a stinking traitor who will freeze for all eternity in Cocytus.

Anyway, @Ronn, I was making an ironic reference to the Attack of the Giant Killer Boob scene in said film. Maybe my humour was a tad understated (or British, as we like to call it *grins*)

And also to anyone who still denies that the scarf is a terrorist symbol, then they could perhaps take a look at this press release from the Simon Wisenthal Centre.

Just try to imagine – & you can’t – how it is to be a Palestinean.

And to have to listen to the BS, the hatred and intolerance directed your way by the Jews and ignorant Americans who think that money and power and brute force makes them right.

Well, as I said above : we Palestineans have samoud – meaning ‘steadfastness’ or ‘persistence’ although also more than those.

We will survive and one day the USA will wake up to the reality most of the planet already acknowledges :

that the Jews (& they should know better than to do what they’ve done – more than anyone else on Earth!) are totally in the wrong and what they’re doing in “Israel” or rather Occupied Palestine is utterly evil and abhorrent. One day they’ll be held to account by the world – & that day will come perhaps sooner than you realise.
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(&, sigh, NO that is not a “terrorist” threat – or any sort of threat really. Not at all. Nor are the people “terrorists” that you think are. You want to see terrorism, Mr Average Amercian and esp. Mr Jew? Look in a mirror for the true terrorist of the world is you.)

Well sod you, to those ignorant racist Yanks & Jews who cannot accept our equal humanity with your humanity -or as case may be inhumanity..

Palestineans are as human and as good and bad as anybody else.

To quote Shakespeares words :

“Prick us and we bleed, wrong us & we will revenge.”

We have been very, very, very badly wronged …

Words cannot express how badly.

Military empires & muscle never lasts.
Empires (& their colonial outposts) fade and vanish.
The Palestinean people have samoud.
We will survive.

Despite all you do to us we will survive – for we are not the “terrorists” or the “bad guys” here as you paint us. The villains here are you.

If you want proof of that look who is oppressing and attacking and invading who.

Palestine did not try to take over Israel. *
Palestine is not Occupying Israel and oppressing its people.
Palestine did not invade Lebanon or Eygpt or Jordan or Syria or Iraq.

Israel is the guilty party, the real villian here – and all the Jewish lobbies many big lies and massive wealth and disproportionate brutality and political thuggery cannot change that fact.

One day the United States of America will realise how just how badly the Jews (incl. the neo-cons and Christian Zionists) have decieved and exploited them – and how terrible a price they’ve been made to pay.

When they do, I think that such grotesque and evil exploitation and lies will result in terrible consequences for the Jews. Because they will one day be held accountable for what they’ve done – to us Palestineans and you American’s and to all the other Humans a.k.a. goyim / gentiles on the planet alike.
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* Yes, yes, I know all about the Arab-Israeli wars of 1948 (the Nakbah or Catastrophe / “war of independence”, 1967 “6-day -war” & 1973 (Yom Kippur” -those were not depsite the lies told to the contrary wars of aggression by Arabs to crush the democratic (not!) underdog (not!) Zionist state. Rather the “Arabs” – & Palestineans have always been defending ourselves against the completely wrong and unjust imposition by force of someone stealing their land and trying to evict them from it. Its like having a robber kick you out of your home and bringing the police in to stop you fighting to get them out of it. That simple really.