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	<title>Comments on: A sense of the nerd</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Nat</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94106</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 05:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice!  I recently went to a different type of nerd conference (ACS).  One of our pastimes was &quot;spot the nerd&quot;, it worked out quite well and we made some friends.  I do have to say.... not all nerds want to be spotted on Bourbon St. :)
I have added &quot;nerdar&quot; to my vocabulary, I&#039;m sure it will be useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice!  I recently went to a different type of nerd conference (ACS).  One of our pastimes was &#8220;spot the nerd&#8221;, it worked out quite well and we made some friends.  I do have to say&#8230;. not all nerds want to be spotted on Bourbon St. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I have added &#8220;nerdar&#8221; to my vocabulary, I&#8217;m sure it will be useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Langbroek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94105</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Langbroek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael:

Ah, yes, well that is the typical effect indeed on people trying to build a career in academic archaeology ....</description>
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<p>Ah, yes, well that is the typical effect indeed on people trying to build a career in academic archaeology &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Lonergan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94104</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Lonergan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marco:
Looking at the ground?

Ahhh, I thought those were severely depressed people that had lost all hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marco:<br />
Looking at the ground?</p>
<p>Ahhh, I thought those were severely depressed people that had lost all hope.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Langbroek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94103</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Langbroek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then again: in that last situation you can confuse them with science writers....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then again: in that last situation you can confuse them with science writers&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Langbroek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94102</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Langbroek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I forgot: at a conference, you can spot the archaeologists because they go straight for the bar....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I forgot: at a conference, you can spot the archaeologists because they go straight for the bar&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Marco Langbroek</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94101</link>
		<dc:creator>Marco Langbroek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 10:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my own science (archaeology) the typical geek (I prefer that to the word nerd) comes in many different outlook varieties depending on specialization.

One thing gives them all away though, when they are outside - they always look at the ground. Classical archaeologists are an exception to that rule, they don&#039;t ever look down.

Confusion with non-archaeologists is possible with both experimental archaeologists and prehistorians (with an added confusion introduced by the nearby field of palaeontology). Many having a beard, wearing ragged old clothes and looking down at the ground, frequently stooping to pick something up, you can confuse them with homeless easily....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my own science (archaeology) the typical geek (I prefer that to the word nerd) comes in many different outlook varieties depending on specialization.</p>
<p>One thing gives them all away though, when they are outside &#8211; they always look at the ground. Classical archaeologists are an exception to that rule, they don&#8217;t ever look down.</p>
<p>Confusion with non-archaeologists is possible with both experimental archaeologists and prehistorians (with an added confusion introduced by the nearby field of palaeontology). Many having a beard, wearing ragged old clothes and looking down at the ground, frequently stooping to pick something up, you can confuse them with homeless easily&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeugnitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zeugnitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 07:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem is that while I set off the nerdar of quite a few interesting people, my social position has always been such that I&#039;ve always been able to rank myself above most other nerds and refused to get to know them better. It seems like arrogance, but it&#039;s more cowardice than anything.

As a result, I&#039;m a very, very lonely nerd, even if I seem successful to others (in terms of secondary things like wealth etc.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem is that while I set off the nerdar of quite a few interesting people, my social position has always been such that I&#8217;ve always been able to rank myself above most other nerds and refused to get to know them better. It seems like arrogance, but it&#8217;s more cowardice than anything.</p>
<p>As a result, I&#8217;m a very, very lonely nerd, even if I seem successful to others (in terms of secondary things like wealth etc.).</p>
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		<title>By: Aeryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aeryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 05:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm.....

Slouchy posture?  Check.  Un-coiffed hair?  Check.  The clothes?  Do tie-dye sarongs and a windbreaker count?  (Definitely &#039;yikes&#039;, but not quite the same way...)

Though truly, I rate higher on the &quot;geek&quot; scale than &quot;nerd&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;..</p>
<p>Slouchy posture?  Check.  Un-coiffed hair?  Check.  The clothes?  Do tie-dye sarongs and a windbreaker count?  (Definitely &#8216;yikes&#8217;, but not quite the same way&#8230;)</p>
<p>Though truly, I rate higher on the &#8220;geek&#8221; scale than &#8220;nerd&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma Smith</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94098</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having grown up a Mormon, one of my superpowers is &quot;missionary-dar&quot; -- I can identify them literally two blocks away.  It&#039;s also fun to play &quot;spot the Mormon&quot; in airports, though on flights between, say, Salt Lake City and San Diego it&#039;s a bit too easy.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having grown up a Mormon, one of my superpowers is &#8220;missionary-dar&#8221; &#8212; I can identify them literally two blocks away.  It&#8217;s also fun to play &#8220;spot the Mormon&#8221; in airports, though on flights between, say, Salt Lake City and San Diego it&#8217;s a bit too easy.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Big Bang Theory is an amazing show - I can only hope it goes on for 20 seasons like the Simpsons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Big Bang Theory is an amazing show &#8211; I can only hope it goes on for 20 seasons like the Simpsons</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94096</link>
		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 01:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

You forgot to mention the easiest way to tell an astronomer just coming off an observing run is: the huge, dark circles under the eyes, dazed look, blinking at bright lights, and of course, immediately falling asleep once they are on the plane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>You forgot to mention the easiest way to tell an astronomer just coming off an observing run is: the huge, dark circles under the eyes, dazed look, blinking at bright lights, and of course, immediately falling asleep once they are on the plane.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what happens if you happen to have gaydar and nerdar?  Then, suppose you detect a gay nerd?  Would that be &quot;gaynerdar&quot; or &quot;nergaydar&quot;?

PZ:  Your comments activated my &quot;pervdar.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what happens if you happen to have gaydar and nerdar?  Then, suppose you detect a gay nerd?  Would that be &#8220;gaynerdar&#8221; or &#8220;nergaydar&#8221;?</p>
<p>PZ:  Your comments activated my &#8220;pervdar.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: MandyDax</title>
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		<dc:creator>MandyDax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 23:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YOU JUST WANT TO &lt;i&gt;MATE&lt;/i&gt;?!
YOU&#039;RE NOT MATIN&#039; WITH &lt;i&gt;ME&lt;/i&gt;, SUNSHINE!

I agree with Steven Novella.  You should totally put together a double-blinded study of this effect.  I do think that there are subtle and not-so-subtle signals that people perceive to come to the conclusion that people are gay, nerd, or even bikers.  Even gay, nerdy bikers.

Anecdote: When I first was hired for my current position, there was an orientation class to get us acquainted with hospital procedures and benefits, etc., and we of course did the tell us your name, where in the hospital you&#039;ll be working, and a little about yourself.  I noticed one of the men in the class who didn&#039;t mention anything about motorcycles in his intro, but during the break, I asked him if he was a biker, and he was really surprised.  He was in fact a biker, but was confused as to how I could know.  I&#039;ve played in pool leagues and there&#039;s a lot of overlap in the pool-player and motorcycle-enthusiast Venn diagram.  The big diamond stud earring, the handlebar moustache, the cut of the hair, the glasses with large lenses and a slight tint, the tough-yet-friendly demeanor: all of these were little signals that added up to my strong suspicion of his being a biker.

One more anecdote and we have data!! :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOU JUST WANT TO <i>MATE</i>?!<br />
YOU&#8217;RE NOT MATIN&#8217; WITH <i>ME</i>, SUNSHINE!</p>
<p>I agree with Steven Novella.  You should totally put together a double-blinded study of this effect.  I do think that there are subtle and not-so-subtle signals that people perceive to come to the conclusion that people are gay, nerd, or even bikers.  Even gay, nerdy bikers.</p>
<p>Anecdote: When I first was hired for my current position, there was an orientation class to get us acquainted with hospital procedures and benefits, etc., and we of course did the tell us your name, where in the hospital you&#8217;ll be working, and a little about yourself.  I noticed one of the men in the class who didn&#8217;t mention anything about motorcycles in his intro, but during the break, I asked him if he was a biker, and he was really surprised.  He was in fact a biker, but was confused as to how I could know.  I&#8217;ve played in pool leagues and there&#8217;s a lot of overlap in the pool-player and motorcycle-enthusiast Venn diagram.  The big diamond stud earring, the handlebar moustache, the cut of the hair, the glasses with large lenses and a slight tint, the tough-yet-friendly demeanor: all of these were little signals that added up to my strong suspicion of his being a biker.</p>
<p>One more anecdote and we have data!! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Spiv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PZ: You may know a great deal about the sex, but frankly I think the last thing a girl wants to hear in the throws of passion is how you&#039;re aware that her excretion and reproduction parts are all piped in together:
http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/05/another_reason_to_wear_underwe.php

Everyone knows they just want a guy who can really take them out of this world. That&#039;s why rocket scientists are so popular :p But perhaps it takes a rocket scientists to know that. I can never tell- any nuclear physicists or brain surgeons want to chime in? Dr. Novella?

And being a reader of pharyngula and SBM, fancy seeing you two here. Gave me that &quot;walked into a biker bar in a suit and tie&quot; feeling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PZ: You may know a great deal about the sex, but frankly I think the last thing a girl wants to hear in the throws of passion is how you&#8217;re aware that her excretion and reproduction parts are all piped in together:<br />
<a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/05/another_reason_to_wear_underwe.php" rel="nofollow">http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/05/another_reason_to_wear_underwe.php</a></p>
<p>Everyone knows they just want a guy who can really take them out of this world. That&#8217;s why rocket scientists are so popular :p But perhaps it takes a rocket scientists to know that. I can never tell- any nuclear physicists or brain surgeons want to chime in? Dr. Novella?</p>
<p>And being a reader of pharyngula and SBM, fancy seeing you two here. Gave me that &#8220;walked into a biker bar in a suit and tie&#8221; feeling.</p>
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		<title>By: The Centipede</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Centipede</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;For example, they will not mention anything to do with science or science -fiction for hours, sometimes days! ... You need to reprogram your nerdar to detect ‘chamelenerd’.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;__&gt;

I have no idea what you&#039;re talking about.  None whatsoever.  Please, do go on about the big game tomorrow, it&#039;s fascinating stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>For example, they will not mention anything to do with science or science -fiction for hours, sometimes days! &#8230; You need to reprogram your nerdar to detect ‘chamelenerd’.</p></blockquote>
<p>&lt;__&gt;</p>
<p>I have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about.  None whatsoever.  Please, do go on about the big game tomorrow, it&#8217;s fascinating stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: quasidog</title>
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		<dc:creator>quasidog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you are doing is spotting &#039;similar nerds&#039;.
The nerdar trick is great for spotting nerds that fit into your stereotyped nerd box, but in actual fact nerds exist outside that box too. Big nerds.  Huge Nerds!  Nerds that don&#039;t look like nerds.  They also sometimes have this neat trick where they change their speech pattern to avoid nerdar.  For example, they will not mention anything to do with science or science -fiction for hours, sometimes days! .. in order to blend into different environments for ease of survival.  Now that is nerdy.  They are somewhat the chameleon of the nerd world.
You need to reprogram your nerdar to detect &#039;chamelenerd&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you are doing is spotting &#8216;similar nerds&#8217;.<br />
The nerdar trick is great for spotting nerds that fit into your stereotyped nerd box, but in actual fact nerds exist outside that box too. Big nerds.  Huge Nerds!  Nerds that don&#8217;t look like nerds.  They also sometimes have this neat trick where they change their speech pattern to avoid nerdar.  For example, they will not mention anything to do with science or science -fiction for hours, sometimes days! .. in order to blend into different environments for ease of survival.  Now that is nerdy.  They are somewhat the chameleon of the nerd world.<br />
You need to reprogram your nerdar to detect &#8216;chamelenerd&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;In all of them - that&#8217;s the point!&#8221; &#171; Overcoat Pocket</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8220;In all of them - that&#8217;s the point!&#8221; &#171; Overcoat Pocket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I know, but when I was learning chemistry I found that phenomenon really interesting. I know your NERDAR is blipping at me. Blip away!) Anyway, he then went on to say that he was supposed to take physics [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I know, but when I was learning chemistry I found that phenomenon really interesting. I know your NERDAR is blipping at me. Blip away!) Anyway, he then went on to say that he was supposed to take physics [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Utakata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Utakata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget poster tubes...anyone who name&#039;s their &quot;handle&quot; after Japanese cartoons is a nerd in my books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget poster tubes&#8230;anyone who name&#8217;s their &#8220;handle&#8221; after Japanese cartoons is a nerd in my books.</p>
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		<title>By: moopet</title>
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		<dc:creator>moopet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think possibly the nerdiest thing I could do right now is point out that &quot;close proximity&quot; is a tautology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think possibly the nerdiest thing I could do right now is point out that &#8220;close proximity&#8221; is a tautology.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I’m coining “probably is or has at least one time been a basketball player dar”.

If anybody tries to take credit for that, I’ll kill them.  And no, I will not reveal the one trait that tips me off that someone probably is or has at least one time been a basketball player.  That, I take to my grave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m coining “probably is or has at least one time been a basketball player dar”.</p>
<p>If anybody tries to take credit for that, I’ll kill them.  And no, I will not reveal the one trait that tips me off that someone probably is or has at least one time been a basketball player.  That, I take to my grave.</p>
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		<title>By: davidlpf</title>
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		<dc:creator>davidlpf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Engineers tend have egos that can fit into only the largest staduims, some place engineerin students wear shirts with the initials ERTW (engineers rule the world). Biology has more women, astronomers can do can things better in the dark then any other group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Engineers tend have egos that can fit into only the largest staduims, some place engineerin students wear shirts with the initials ERTW (engineers rule the world). Biology has more women, astronomers can do can things better in the dark then any other group.</p>
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		<title>By: ARP1234</title>
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		<dc:creator>ARP1234</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex.&quot;

If I have to tell you where this is from....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex.&#8221;</p>
<p>If I have to tell you where this is from&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: KC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T&#039;was the voice of experience, Wintermute, t&#039;was the voice of experience. :-)  If it wasn&#039;t for my wife, i&#039;d probably dress in solid colors only. Much easier to match. Or plaid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T&#8217;was the voice of experience, Wintermute, t&#8217;was the voice of experience. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   If it wasn&#8217;t for my wife, i&#8217;d probably dress in solid colors only. Much easier to match. Or plaid.</p>
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		<title>By: Wintermute</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94083</link>
		<dc:creator>Wintermute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too true, KC. %DIETY% only knows how I&#039;d dress myself if it weren&#039;t for being married to a non-nerd with a sense of fashion

&#039;mute</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too true, KC. %DIETY% only knows how I&#8217;d dress myself if it weren&#8217;t for being married to a non-nerd with a sense of fashion</p>
<p>&#8216;mute</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Novella</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/06/a-sense-of-the-nerd/comment-page-1/#comment-94082</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Novella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil - you wrote that you got pretty good at figuring out who were the astronomers. My question is - how do you know? Did you go up and ask each one to objectively assess your accuracy? If not, perhaps your perceived accuracy was just subjective validation or self-fulfilling (a version of the toupe fallacy).

Nerdar is even more problematic - in order to say that it meant anything you would have to use criteria to decide that someone qualified as a nerd that were different than the observed traits you used to &quot;predict&quot; someone was a nerd. Otherwise this is completely circular - I can tell nerds by looking at them; someone is a nerd if they look like one to me.

I know, I&#039;m just being a skeptinerd. (Hey - I just coined that term, you have to pay me a quarter every time you use it.) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil &#8211; you wrote that you got pretty good at figuring out who were the astronomers. My question is &#8211; how do you know? Did you go up and ask each one to objectively assess your accuracy? If not, perhaps your perceived accuracy was just subjective validation or self-fulfilling (a version of the toupe fallacy).</p>
<p>Nerdar is even more problematic &#8211; in order to say that it meant anything you would have to use criteria to decide that someone qualified as a nerd that were different than the observed traits you used to &#8220;predict&#8221; someone was a nerd. Otherwise this is completely circular &#8211; I can tell nerds by looking at them; someone is a nerd if they look like one to me.</p>
<p>I know, I&#8217;m just being a skeptinerd. (Hey &#8211; I just coined that term, you have to pay me a quarter every time you use it.) <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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