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	<title>Comments on: Doctor Who: Forest of the Dead</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: becky turner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/07/doctor-who-forest-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-97115</link>
		<dc:creator>becky turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone remember the last bit of the forest odf the dead when the doctor asks River how she knows his name? and he says &quot;there is only one reason i would ever tell someone my name... there is only one time i ever could tell someone my name...&quot; what is this all about!!? what is the reason? when can he tell his name? and why is he so amazed she knows?? does anyone know? watch the last part of the forest of the dead just before River dies and u will see what i mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone remember the last bit of the forest odf the dead when the doctor asks River how she knows his name? and he says &#8220;there is only one reason i would ever tell someone my name&#8230; there is only one time i ever could tell someone my name&#8230;&#8221; what is this all about!!? what is the reason? when can he tell his name? and why is he so amazed she knows?? does anyone know? watch the last part of the forest of the dead just before River dies and u will see what i mean.</p>
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		<title>By: Liz S.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/07/doctor-who-forest-of-the-dead/comment-page-1/#comment-94475</link>
		<dc:creator>Liz S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with  Arpie -- it really bothered me to have Dr. River Song knowing the Doctor&#039;s name. I suppose, if she turns out to be his future wife the way many are suspecting, it makes _sense_ that she knew his name -- but I still don&#039;t like it. It&#039;s too important a part of the Doctor&#039;s mystique that no one knows his name, at this point, and this really bothered me.

I also hated the cheap handcuff joke -- something that belongs on &quot;Coupling,&quot; not &quot;Doctor Who.&quot; Granted, Captain Jack, also of the fifty-first century, has been known to engage in more than his fair share of innuendos, and that has never got on my nerves -- but there was something character-breaking about that joke because it involved the Doctor. I have never been a fan of Moffat&#039;s Give The Doctor Another Romantic Interest plotlines, and that&#039;s basically what this two-parter was, and it makes me apprehensive about him becoming the show runner next year.

What can I say -- I&#039;m going to miss RTD a _lot_ ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with  Arpie &#8212; it really bothered me to have Dr. River Song knowing the Doctor&#8217;s name. I suppose, if she turns out to be his future wife the way many are suspecting, it makes _sense_ that she knew his name &#8212; but I still don&#8217;t like it. It&#8217;s too important a part of the Doctor&#8217;s mystique that no one knows his name, at this point, and this really bothered me.</p>
<p>I also hated the cheap handcuff joke &#8212; something that belongs on &#8220;Coupling,&#8221; not &#8220;Doctor Who.&#8221; Granted, Captain Jack, also of the fifty-first century, has been known to engage in more than his fair share of innuendos, and that has never got on my nerves &#8212; but there was something character-breaking about that joke because it involved the Doctor. I have never been a fan of Moffat&#8217;s Give The Doctor Another Romantic Interest plotlines, and that&#8217;s basically what this two-parter was, and it makes me apprehensive about him becoming the show runner next year.</p>
<p>What can I say &#8212; I&#8217;m going to miss RTD a _lot_ &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arpie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arpie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 02:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad to hear you all liked the show so much. It&#039;s always refreshing to see that my favorite show has a strong following. And it wasn&#039;t a bad episode, by any means, but I think it was pretty weak in quite a few spots. Certainly weaker than all this gushing praise would make it seem.

I admired the attempt to introduce some mystery and anticipation with the Dr. Riversong character. It was a pretty good effort, although not one I&#039;m really looking forward to watching play out. (Don&#039;t get me wrong, I liked Dr. Riversong and the actress who played her was awesome, it&#039;s just... I don&#039;t really care what the Doctor&#039;s real name is. I was hoping we&#039;d never find out.)

I agree that some of the horror bits were quite good. I liked the suit men running on shadow monsters and data ghosts. That was a nice creepy effect.

But, quite frankly, Moffat was writing a lot like M. Night Shyayan in this episode. The &quot;surprise&quot; about the computer isn&#039;t much of a surprise (I suppose it isn&#039;t supposed to be as the key tinglers of the episode seemed to be the introduction of the Riversong-Doctor dynamic and the hungry shadow monsters.)

I think that the Planet of the Ood was one of the better stories this season and this two-parter didn&#039;t quite stack up to it. The pacing in both parts was very slow and a lot of the revelations came a scene or two after the average person could have put them together.

In fact, that&#039;s really the problem with the episodes. Neither can make up their mind about what should be a twist and what shouldn&#039;t be. It&#039;s as if someone in authority thought it should be played a cheap spook show and someone creative knew better.

I thought the two daves were a waste of a great naming convention, for throw-away characters and the transformation of the pretty-but-dumb girl into an ugly-but-smart mentor was interesting, if a bit goofy.
(Frankly, it was more touching when she died, which is weird, because it&#039;s the opposite effect of Jenny dying in the Doctor&#039;s daughter. It felt more &quot;real&quot; when the pretty-but-dumb girl died than when Jenny died. There&#039;s probably some sort of subtle line there that got crossed.)

Tripping over subtle lines seems to be a rough spot this season.

Well, anyway, this two-parter was sweet in parts and horrible in others and it very nearly went over the edge into sickening sentimentalism, but it pulled back just in time to be a decent episode. Good enough but not the best (which pretty much seems to define this whole season.)

I&#039;ll chalk it up to a transition phase.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to hear you all liked the show so much. It&#8217;s always refreshing to see that my favorite show has a strong following. And it wasn&#8217;t a bad episode, by any means, but I think it was pretty weak in quite a few spots. Certainly weaker than all this gushing praise would make it seem.</p>
<p>I admired the attempt to introduce some mystery and anticipation with the Dr. Riversong character. It was a pretty good effort, although not one I&#8217;m really looking forward to watching play out. (Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I liked Dr. Riversong and the actress who played her was awesome, it&#8217;s just&#8230; I don&#8217;t really care what the Doctor&#8217;s real name is. I was hoping we&#8217;d never find out.)</p>
<p>I agree that some of the horror bits were quite good. I liked the suit men running on shadow monsters and data ghosts. That was a nice creepy effect.</p>
<p>But, quite frankly, Moffat was writing a lot like M. Night Shyayan in this episode. The &#8220;surprise&#8221; about the computer isn&#8217;t much of a surprise (I suppose it isn&#8217;t supposed to be as the key tinglers of the episode seemed to be the introduction of the Riversong-Doctor dynamic and the hungry shadow monsters.)</p>
<p>I think that the Planet of the Ood was one of the better stories this season and this two-parter didn&#8217;t quite stack up to it. The pacing in both parts was very slow and a lot of the revelations came a scene or two after the average person could have put them together.</p>
<p>In fact, that&#8217;s really the problem with the episodes. Neither can make up their mind about what should be a twist and what shouldn&#8217;t be. It&#8217;s as if someone in authority thought it should be played a cheap spook show and someone creative knew better.</p>
<p>I thought the two daves were a waste of a great naming convention, for throw-away characters and the transformation of the pretty-but-dumb girl into an ugly-but-smart mentor was interesting, if a bit goofy.<br />
(Frankly, it was more touching when she died, which is weird, because it&#8217;s the opposite effect of Jenny dying in the Doctor&#8217;s daughter. It felt more &#8220;real&#8221; when the pretty-but-dumb girl died than when Jenny died. There&#8217;s probably some sort of subtle line there that got crossed.)</p>
<p>Tripping over subtle lines seems to be a rough spot this season.</p>
<p>Well, anyway, this two-parter was sweet in parts and horrible in others and it very nearly went over the edge into sickening sentimentalism, but it pulled back just in time to be a decent episode. Good enough but not the best (which pretty much seems to define this whole season.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll chalk it up to a transition phase.</p>
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		<title>By: Naomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 04:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUCH a fantastic episode! I slept with the lights on after the first episode. Now THAT is Doctor Who! (Moffat is an evil genius!)

&quot;Well… at least we’ll have Torchwood…&quot;

Not quite, it&#039;s only been approved for five episodes so far &gt;.&lt; Reduced Torchwood AND Doctor Who, great. 2009 is going to suck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SUCH a fantastic episode! I slept with the lights on after the first episode. Now THAT is Doctor Who! (Moffat is an evil genius!)</p>
<p>&#8220;Well… at least we’ll have Torchwood…&#8221;</p>
<p>Not quite, it&#8217;s only been approved for five episodes so far &gt;.&lt; Reduced Torchwood AND Doctor Who, great. 2009 is going to suck!</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Bartholomaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Bartholomaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 04:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Ingrained.

I guess I was thinking of it in a more colloquial type of way where the shepherd moons help clear parts of the ring system and also help maintain the rings overall.  When they said that the doctor moon was there to watch over and protect the CAL system I just took that a little too far.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ingrained.</p>
<p>I guess I was thinking of it in a more colloquial type of way where the shepherd moons help clear parts of the ring system and also help maintain the rings overall.  When they said that the doctor moon was there to watch over and protect the CAL system I just took that a little too far.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: IngrainedReason</title>
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		<dc:creator>IngrainedReason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*SPOILER - MINOR*




Derek Bartholomaus, it&#039;s not a british term; I think he made it up.

Why do you think it fits the definition of Shepherd Moon? From the definition I&#039;ve seen of the that it only refers to moons connected to ring systems. The doctor moon is like an antivirus program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*SPOILER &#8211; MINOR*</p>
<p>Derek Bartholomaus, it&#8217;s not a british term; I think he made it up.</p>
<p>Why do you think it fits the definition of Shepherd Moon? From the definition I&#8217;ve seen of the that it only refers to moons connected to ring systems. The doctor moon is like an antivirus program.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 01:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*SQUEE*

Okay, finally got to sit down and watch it.  For some reason while watching the flashbacks from the last episode before this one, I was able to figure out the plot, but there were still some creepy and some brilliant moments.  Overall a major *win*.  Oh I can&#039;t wait to see what they have cooked up next!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*SQUEE*</p>
<p>Okay, finally got to sit down and watch it.  For some reason while watching the flashbacks from the last episode before this one, I was able to figure out the plot, but there were still some creepy and some brilliant moments.  Overall a major *win*.  Oh I can&#8217;t wait to see what they have cooked up next!</p>
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