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	<title>Comments on: Louisiana&#8217;s doom, now with video!</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/13/more-on-louisianas-doom/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody tell me just how Young Earth Creationism replaced Christ as the core of the Christian faith?

Baptist preacher and blogger Internet Monk &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.internetmonk.com/articles/C/creation.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;ranted about the same thing&lt;/a&gt;.  In a later blog posting (which I can&#039;t find now that I want to cite it), he described YEC attitudes as part of a more generic &quot;Get on our bus or get run over.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody tell me just how Young Earth Creationism replaced Christ as the core of the Christian faith?</p>
<p>Baptist preacher and blogger Internet Monk <a href="http://www.internetmonk.com/articles/C/creation.html" rel="nofollow">ranted about the same thing</a>.  In a later blog posting (which I can&#8217;t find now that I want to cite it), he described YEC attitudes as part of a more generic &#8220;Get on our bus or get run over.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: mike burkhart</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/13/more-on-louisianas-doom/comment-page-1/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>mike burkhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 18:06:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In fact i suppose that the textbook for this class will be the Bible and some fundamentist interpatation of it . Of course no one elese interpation will be taught or allowed in this class . For example I wont be able to say in this class the the 7 days of creation was only put in the book of Genisis to show the importanice of the sabith rest and is not to be taken literaly or that cahpters 1 and 2 of Genisis are two diferend acounts of the creation or that God dose not have our human concept of time . If any one teach any other interpation thy will be thrown in jail and we will have anthor scopes monkey trail</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In fact i suppose that the textbook for this class will be the Bible and some fundamentist interpatation of it . Of course no one elese interpation will be taught or allowed in this class . For example I wont be able to say in this class the the 7 days of creation was only put in the book of Genisis to show the importanice of the sabith rest and is not to be taken literaly or that cahpters 1 and 2 of Genisis are two diferend acounts of the creation or that God dose not have our human concept of time . If any one teach any other interpation thy will be thrown in jail and we will have anthor scopes monkey trail</p>
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		<title>By: mike burkhart</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/13/more-on-louisianas-doom/comment-page-1/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>mike burkhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 17:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ther is a place to teach the Bible and the book of Genesis and to discus God creatation of man it is called SUNDAY SCHOOL ( in my church catacism class because it is usely taught on saturday ) not science class . In science class you are ther to learn science not theology</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ther is a place to teach the Bible and the book of Genesis and to discus God creatation of man it is called SUNDAY SCHOOL ( in my church catacism class because it is usely taught on saturday ) not science class . In science class you are ther to learn science not theology</p>
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		<title>By: BudgetAstronomer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/13/more-on-louisianas-doom/comment-page-1/#comment-685</link>
		<dc:creator>BudgetAstronomer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ZZMike:
Allow me to clarify the analogy you started. Gravity pulls stuff down. This is a fact. But how does gravity work? Are there gravity force particles? Is gravity the result of space curvature? We don&#039;t know for sure. These are theories of gravity - explanatory models that accurately describe the fact of falling objects (and orbiting galaxies). And surprisingly, there are significant connections between both models of gravity, which aditional models (such as loop quantum gravity) attempt to resolve.
Evolution - change over time - is a fact that is recorded in the fossil record. The &quot;theory of evolution&quot;, or natural selection, is a model of the process by which evolution occured. There are additional &quot;add on&quot; models, such as punctuated equilibrium and earth impact models, that say there is more going on than just gradual change. Again, these models all tie together, rather than being competing &quot;theories&quot; as the ID proponents would have you believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ZZMike:<br />
Allow me to clarify the analogy you started. Gravity pulls stuff down. This is a fact. But how does gravity work? Are there gravity force particles? Is gravity the result of space curvature? We don&#8217;t know for sure. These are theories of gravity &#8211; explanatory models that accurately describe the fact of falling objects (and orbiting galaxies). And surprisingly, there are significant connections between both models of gravity, which aditional models (such as loop quantum gravity) attempt to resolve.<br />
Evolution &#8211; change over time &#8211; is a fact that is recorded in the fossil record. The &#8220;theory of evolution&#8221;, or natural selection, is a model of the process by which evolution occured. There are additional &#8220;add on&#8221; models, such as punctuated equilibrium and earth impact models, that say there is more going on than just gradual change. Again, these models all tie together, rather than being competing &#8220;theories&#8221; as the ID proponents would have you believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Booker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/13/more-on-louisianas-doom/comment-page-1/#comment-684</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Booker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone has ever driven around in Northern Louisiana, they would comprehend the mentality that would support and advocate the &quot;trojan horse&quot; legislation that is being foisted upon the LA education system.  Rural Louisiana ain&#039;t exactly the most cosmopolitan part of the nation.  I ain&#039;t going to indulge in snide comments about arrested evolution in that region because that would belie a non-comprehension of the real science.

Y&#039;all need to understand (as Steven J. Gould took great pains to clarify), that evolution is not the inevitable progression and improvement of a species.  Evolution at its base means only adaptation.  Survival of the fittest only applies to an organism that is &quot;fit&quot; to function in a particular environmental niche.  In no way does evolution science define one species, or ethnic group, as inherently superior to any other.

With this understanding, one should properly wince when watching the play/movie &quot;Inherit the Wind&quot;.  William Jennings Bryant was a very prominent fighter for social justice issues, and denounced the &quot;theory of evolution&quot; partly because of the mentality of &quot;social darwinism&quot; that justified the oppression and exploitation of people in the lesser social strati because of their alleged inferiority.  It is a shame that history remembers him as a buffoon because of the Scopes trial, and his stand against &quot;teaching evolution&quot;.

It is also a shame that the vestiges of the movement that opposed the imposition of the mis-interpretation of evolution theory, is now driven by the exploitation of people in the less advantaged social strata, such as rural Louisiana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone has ever driven around in Northern Louisiana, they would comprehend the mentality that would support and advocate the &#8220;trojan horse&#8221; legislation that is being foisted upon the LA education system.  Rural Louisiana ain&#8217;t exactly the most cosmopolitan part of the nation.  I ain&#8217;t going to indulge in snide comments about arrested evolution in that region because that would belie a non-comprehension of the real science.</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all need to understand (as Steven J. Gould took great pains to clarify), that evolution is not the inevitable progression and improvement of a species.  Evolution at its base means only adaptation.  Survival of the fittest only applies to an organism that is &#8220;fit&#8221; to function in a particular environmental niche.  In no way does evolution science define one species, or ethnic group, as inherently superior to any other.</p>
<p>With this understanding, one should properly wince when watching the play/movie &#8220;Inherit the Wind&#8221;.  William Jennings Bryant was a very prominent fighter for social justice issues, and denounced the &#8220;theory of evolution&#8221; partly because of the mentality of &#8220;social darwinism&#8221; that justified the oppression and exploitation of people in the lesser social strati because of their alleged inferiority.  It is a shame that history remembers him as a buffoon because of the Scopes trial, and his stand against &#8220;teaching evolution&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is also a shame that the vestiges of the movement that opposed the imposition of the mis-interpretation of evolution theory, is now driven by the exploitation of people in the less advantaged social strata, such as rural Louisiana.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob1207</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/13/more-on-louisianas-doom/comment-page-1/#comment-683</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob1207</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HidariMak, that&#039;s a great vid.  Thanks for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HidariMak, that&#8217;s a great vid.  Thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Louisiana disparages Darwin &#124; Uncommon Descent</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/06/13/more-on-louisianas-doom/comment-page-1/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator>Louisiana disparages Darwin &#124; Uncommon Descent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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