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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: (Не)политически некоректно &#171; Страната под Сянката</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/09/sometimes-a-black-hole-is-just-a-black-hole/comment-page-3/#comment-155252</link>
		<dc:creator>(Не)политически некоректно &#171; Страната под Сянката</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] полета на робовладелското си наследство водят до забавни резултати, но смръщеното отношение към употребата на [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] полета на робовладелското си наследство водят до забавни резултати, но смръщеното отношение към употребата на [...]</p>
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		<title>By: shadegem</title>
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		<dc:creator>shadegem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always thought &quot;white holes&quot; referred to the reverse affect of blackholes; that is, holes in the universe that spew out as much matter as they have in them including light.
In any case, they should do more research on the matter of termenology (sp?) before making such a comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always thought &#8220;white holes&#8221; referred to the reverse affect of blackholes; that is, holes in the universe that spew out as much matter as they have in them including light.<br />
In any case, they should do more research on the matter of termenology (sp?) before making such a comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Shell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is being more then sensitive.  It sounds more like he does not like being black and wants to wipe that word from everyones toung.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is being more then sensitive.  It sounds more like he does not like being black and wants to wipe that word from everyones toung.</p>
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		<title>By: gopher65</title>
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		<dc:creator>gopher65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope Jose. I don&#039;t know exactly what the reason is why she gets IDed and I never do. Just like I don&#039;t know the reason why I can walk into a club with 5 other people and every one of them gets IDed, including the 40 year old, and I don&#039;t (I&#039;m 24, and I look 24:P).

People use numerous cues, visual and otherwise, to decide which people are worthy of their trust. I generally fall into that category. Whether it is ID cards or people telling me their life stories after knowing me for 5 minutes, it just happens.

Now I&#039;m not saying that racism doesn&#039;t happen. I&#039;ve spent quite a bit of time in both Alaska (2 years in highschool) and Oklahoma (visiting my parents). In Alaska there weren&#039;t many weeks that went by were there weren&#039;t Native gangs ganking someone because one of the white gangs had scrawled a swastika on the wall of a bathroom, or vise versa with the white gangs. In OK, at this very moment, if you go out and ask someone about Obama, you have a decent chance of being informed that they, &quot;won&#039;t vote for no black man&quot;.

So I&#039;m not under the mistaken impression that racism doesn&#039;t exist. I *am* under the impression that both sides make extensive use of racism as a weapon; in order to keep that weapon powerful, it has to be fully loaded with ammo (new cases of racism). Instead of dealing with the REAL racism in places like Oklahoma, stuff like this &quot;black hole&quot; comment is manufactured. Why? Because this is easy, and dealing with real racism is both hard, and not politically correct. 

After all, every time I say that the southern US is racist I get blasted for using stereotypes without knowing what I&#039;m talking about. Buddies, I&#039;ve spent a fair amount of time in the southern states, and I was blown away by the overwhelming level of racism in those places. Those feelings aren&#039;t completely unanimous among the population, but they are nearly ubiquitous in their strength across the slave states.  Before I went there it had never occurred to me that people would find skin colour to be such a big deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope Jose. I don&#8217;t know exactly what the reason is why she gets IDed and I never do. Just like I don&#8217;t know the reason why I can walk into a club with 5 other people and every one of them gets IDed, including the 40 year old, and I don&#8217;t (I&#8217;m 24, and I look 24:P).</p>
<p>People use numerous cues, visual and otherwise, to decide which people are worthy of their trust. I generally fall into that category. Whether it is ID cards or people telling me their life stories after knowing me for 5 minutes, it just happens.</p>
<p>Now I&#8217;m not saying that racism doesn&#8217;t happen. I&#8217;ve spent quite a bit of time in both Alaska (2 years in highschool) and Oklahoma (visiting my parents). In Alaska there weren&#8217;t many weeks that went by were there weren&#8217;t Native gangs ganking someone because one of the white gangs had scrawled a swastika on the wall of a bathroom, or vise versa with the white gangs. In OK, at this very moment, if you go out and ask someone about Obama, you have a decent chance of being informed that they, &#8220;won&#8217;t vote for no black man&#8221;.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not under the mistaken impression that racism doesn&#8217;t exist. I *am* under the impression that both sides make extensive use of racism as a weapon; in order to keep that weapon powerful, it has to be fully loaded with ammo (new cases of racism). Instead of dealing with the REAL racism in places like Oklahoma, stuff like this &#8220;black hole&#8221; comment is manufactured. Why? Because this is easy, and dealing with real racism is both hard, and not politically correct. </p>
<p>After all, every time I say that the southern US is racist I get blasted for using stereotypes without knowing what I&#8217;m talking about. Buddies, I&#8217;ve spent a fair amount of time in the southern states, and I was blown away by the overwhelming level of racism in those places. Those feelings aren&#8217;t completely unanimous among the population, but they are nearly ubiquitous in their strength across the slave states.  Before I went there it had never occurred to me that people would find skin colour to be such a big deal.</p>
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		<title>By: thewhitehole</title>
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		<dc:creator>thewhitehole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 17:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Black Hole 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc1zGRUPztc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Black Hole </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc1zGRUPztc" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc1zGRUPztc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Herbel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy Herbel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 16:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tried to look through all 100+ comments, but I might have missed where this was already pointed out. Please re-update to point out that the comment of the &quot;white hole&quot; was, indeed, a racial comment. This clip has the video of the meeting, and it is very clear what the intention was. Also, the part near the end where JWP points out that black is used to denote &quot;bad&quot; things makes it even more clear.
http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6953163&amp;version=5&amp;locale=EN-US&amp;layoutCode=VSTY&amp;pageId=1.1.1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tried to look through all 100+ comments, but I might have missed where this was already pointed out. Please re-update to point out that the comment of the &#8220;white hole&#8221; was, indeed, a racial comment. This clip has the video of the meeting, and it is very clear what the intention was. Also, the part near the end where JWP points out that black is used to denote &#8220;bad&#8221; things makes it even more clear.<br />
<a href="http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6953163&#038;version=5&#038;locale=EN-US&#038;layoutCode=VSTY&#038;pageId=1.1.1" rel="nofollow">http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6953163&#038;version=5&#038;locale=EN-US&#038;layoutCode=VSTY&#038;pageId=1.1.1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Torr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Torr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 12:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jose:
&quot;How are your lives negatively impacted by refraining from using a phrase or symbol that might be offencive to someone? Why the outrage?&quot;

In my case it is because I am simply trying to protect all those people who wish to communicate using a perfectly good language from being restricted in their communication by a small number of other people who want to see that language distorted for no good reason.

My life would be negatively impacted because I would be denied access to some of my vocabulary, which reduces my ability to communicate effectively.  Why should I be forced to find convoluted alternative ways of saying things that can be said more concisely using words that were designed for the purpose and are in reality inoffensive?  I would object to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jose:<br />
&#8220;How are your lives negatively impacted by refraining from using a phrase or symbol that might be offencive to someone? Why the outrage?&#8221;</p>
<p>In my case it is because I am simply trying to protect all those people who wish to communicate using a perfectly good language from being restricted in their communication by a small number of other people who want to see that language distorted for no good reason.</p>
<p>My life would be negatively impacted because I would be denied access to some of my vocabulary, which reduces my ability to communicate effectively.  Why should I be forced to find convoluted alternative ways of saying things that can be said more concisely using words that were designed for the purpose and are in reality inoffensive?  I would object to that.</p>
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