Because 2012 can’t get any dumber…

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UPDATE: Oh criminy. I misread the date on the linked article; it’s actually from last year, so the movie I’m talking about is probably the same one from Emmerlich. I suppose it doesn’t matter much, the meat of this article remains unchanged. 2012. Feh.

Sometimes, I almost hope the world will end in 2012. Or earlier. It’ll save me from finding out things like Michael Bay is going to make a movie based on the 2012 nonsense. This is on top of Roland Emmerich’s efforts.

Bay was the force behind that brain trust of a movie, Armageddon, what I regard as the worst film ever made. It has precisely one accurate thing in the entire movie: it’s about asteroids, and asteroids do exist. Other than that, scientifically, it makes Saturday morning cartoons look like Nobel-winning research.

So this movie will be bad. No, scratch that. To be more accurate, I can confidently predict it will suck harder than the supermassive black hole in the core of M87. I base this on long experience of suffering through Bay’s movies.

Of course, there’s a chance he’ll surprise me. But remember: this movie will be based on the 2012 garbage. So there’s not even an asteroid in it to give it one toe dipped into reality.

Feh. Fehnth.

Tip o’ the tin foil beanie to BABloggee Jeff Witmer.

July 15th, 2008 2:00 PM by Phil Plait in Antiscience, Humor, Piece of mind, Science, Skepticism | 90 comments | RSS feed | Trackback >

90 Responses to “Because 2012 can’t get any dumber…”

  1. 1.   Charles Says:

    “Feh. Feh^nth.”

    This should be on a T-shirt. Or at least trademarked.

  2. 2.   Eddie Says:

    Mmm. But Liv Tyler was in Armageddon.

    And she’s HOT. Elf hot.

  3. 3.   Calli Arcale Says:

    Armageddon was definitely not the worst film ever made. It was a stinker, but I’ve seen much worse pieces of dreck. The utterly putrid “Avengers” film adaptation comes to mind. It seemed to actually sap the talent out of everyone who appeared in it.

    And then there’s what Mike Nelson said in his review of “Batman and Robin”:

    “It is not the worst movie ever made. No indeed. It is the worst THING ever made.”

    :-D

    Of course, Michael Bay could well be on course to trump either of those cinematic stinkers with 2012. The future will tell!

  4. 4.   Derek Colanduno Says:

    But,

    This MIGHT be the film that FINALLY shows the world that Michal Bay is a genius! Might be his Best Picture winning movie…

    Then again, all signs point to something along the lines of ass droppings…

  5. 5.   John Weiss Says:

    Bay was the force behind that brain trust of a movie, Armageddon, what I regard as the worst film ever made.

    Never seen Manos: The Hands of Fate? I’m still trying to beat my head into walls in order to forget it.

  6. 6.   mikebok Says:

    To be fair, that article is almost a year and a half old and there is no mention of Bay being involved in “2012″ on IMDB.

  7. 7.   Nicole Says:

    “To be more accurate, I can confidently predict it will suck harder than the supermassive black hole in the core of M87.”

    I LOLed. But I was also reminded of an astronomy class where the lecture was entitled “Black Holes Don’t Suck!”

  8. 8.   Michelle Says:

    Bay… Stick to Transformers, OK? You’re good at big big robots. NOT apocalypse movies.

  9. 9.   andy Says:

    Bay was the force behind that brain trust of a movie, Armageddon, what I regard as the worst film ever made.

    You have clearly not seen Dünyayı Kurtaran Adam, a.k.a. Turkish Star Wars. I’m still not entirely sure why I watched it all the way through. Truly terrible.

  10. 10.   andrew f. Says:

    That Variety article is dated March 18, 2007 – I think Emmerich probably took over the project from Bay. It looks like your favorite filmmaker is going to busy with a Transformers sequel in summer ‘09.

  11. 11.   Chip Says:

    The film might be salvageable in post-production if its loaded with song really good songs in Tin Pan Alley style with rim shots! ….. And a laugh track – ya gata hava laugh track!

    On the bright side, its mere presence might make an asteroid-in-the-first-reel classic, like “Green Slime” seem better.

  12. 12.   Noadi Says:

    Birth of a Nation has to be hands down the worst movie ever made. A 190 minute silent film glorifying racism and the KKK.

    Armageddon is bad but not even close to that level.

  13. 13.   Davidlpf Says:

    After just watching 10,000 BC it is a toss up between Armageddon and 10000 BC which is worse, Sunshine is in the top 5 worst as well.

  14. 14.   Dumb Guy Says:

    I actually enjoyed Armageddon. Back up from your textbooks and relax a bit, kids.

  15. 15.   Jessika Says:

    Hey, John, I will have to disagree. Manos gave us one of the best MST3K episodes ever!

    Uwe Boll also thinks Bay is horrible, and challenged him to a boxing match. Man, it’s tough, but I’ll have to say I’d be rooting for Boll in that match-up.

  16. 16.   Boosterz Says:

    I’m not a math whiz but Liv Tyler = win and Liv Tyler was in Armageddon therefore Armageddon = win. It’s really very simple.

  17. 17.   Michael L Says:

    Here’s an idea for a story though:
    Small town bar decides to have an end of the world party in 2012, knowing it’s all bunk, but a really good excuse for a good party. The first earthquake in 100 years happens to hit this small town. Hilarity and drunkenness ensues!

  18. 18.   Doc Says:

    If I saw “Armageddon” then I mercifully forgot it.

    “10,000 BC” was only bad if you expected something vaguely related to the year 10,000 BC on Earth.

    “Manos: The Hands of Fate” is no worse than “Teenager from Outer Space”.

    In my opinion though, nothing is as mind-boggling bad as “Santa Clause Conquers the Martians”

  19. 19.   gopher65 Says:

    Hmm. Now all we need is Uwe Boll to jump into the 2012 ring and all our doom is cause by them.

  20. 20.   Alex Says:

    You’re talking about Michael Bay. This is the man who made ‘Pearl Harbor’, a movie which was about as historically accurate as his later movie ‘Transformers’.

  21. 21.   Jose Says:

    After the apocalypse, will there be a genre of film called “pre-apocalyptic”?

    I can’t wait to find out.

  22. 22.   Wayne Says:

    Did anyone else notice that story is a year old? IMDB doesn’t show Bay being associated with a movie called “2012″, although there’s two upcoming films listed by that name. Maybe we’ll be spared after all.

  23. 23.   Sili Says:

    Hasn’t Ian O’Neil pretty much covered 2012 by now?

    Ah well – I like cartoons. Doubt this’ll be the film to make me start going to the cinema, though.

  24. 24.   joel Says:

    Hey, stop hatin’ on Michael Bay. The only problem with Armageddon is that it took itself too seriously. Bay got past that with Transformers, where he gave the audience permission to laugh at several scenes (example: Sam’s mom meets Mikaela for the first time and blurts out, “Wow! You’re gorgeous.” And afterwards Mikaela tells Sam, “I like your Mom, she’s so nice.”)

    If Bay approaches the 2012 nonsense with the same attitude he brought to Transformers it could be great. With explosions and kewl fx to boot!

  25. 25.   Christopher Ambler Says:

    You know, bring it on, says I.

    The movie is FICTION! It’s Science Fiction, but still FICTION. And, as such, it might be a fun story, just like any other science fiction movie.

    Plus, later-on, when people start talking about 2012 as if it’s real, you can remind them that it’s FICTION, just like the movie.

  26. 26.   Michael L Says:

    Weren’t these guys responsible for the Art Bell insipired, “Day After Tomorrow”, which I thought was a good story, from a fiction point of view…

  27. 27.   Davidlpf Says:

    What will be worse the world ending or having to watch Bay making a movie about the world ending.

  28. 28.   Itzac Says:

    Is the moving going to come before 2012, or are they betting on releasing it after?

  29. 29.   MikeS Says:

    You should read Agony Booth’s very long and thorough destruction of Armageddon, assuming you have several days to spare.

  30. 30.   Eddie Says:

    Yeah. It’s funny to occasionally dissect the odd film in a ‘that would never happen… and let me tell you why…’ kinda way, but only after enjoying the film for what it is… entertaining fiction…

  31. 31.   Jose Says:

    If you’re going to throw Birth of a Nation out, you might as well add Gone with the wind. What’s not to like about a movie with a sociopath heroine that hearkens back to the good old days of slavery? And how about The Piano and it’s lighthearted, Stockholmy “fall in love with your rapist” theme. Of course, we can’t forget The Lord of the Rings and it’s blatant anti-orc sentiment.

  32. 32.   Davidlpf Says:

    Well there is one film with worse science in it.
    http://www.expelledthemovie.com/home.php

  33. 33.   Rob Menke Says:

    Michael Bay was the only person capable of turning a movie about Transformers into a teen sex comedy, complete with every possible hacker stereotype thrown in to boot. He has the reverse Midas touch.

    It will be interesting to see what he does when given a ludicrous idea of the Mayan calendar having relevance. I can’t see what he could do to make that more absurd; but he’s surprised me in the past.

  34. 34.   Justin Says:

    Oh come on, Armageddon is bad, but not as much as The Core or Sunshine (The 2007 one). I think those movies might actually be subtle satire on the terrible science in movies. It’s certainly easier to believe that than people actually thinking anything in those movies makes any sense.

  35. 35.   Quiet Desperation Says:

    I base this on long experience of suffering through Bay’s movies.

    Well… you could stop watching them. That’s what I did. We’ll excuse from having to do BA reviews of them.

    To the rest of the folks, if you go see Bay’s movies, you’re only encouraging him. Stop it.

    It’s like Ain’t It Cool News site where people post “Wow, that movie looks like total evil dog crap! I can’t wait to see it!”

    Huh?!

    I never bought into the whole “it’s so bad it’s good” thing, I guess. Bad is bad.

    And where’s a Doomed post? We’re overdue for a Doomed post. Hasn’t Texas done anything stupid lately?

  36. 36.   Jose Says:

    @Quiet Desperation
    It’s an addiction. While my personal addiction is for dubious cryptozoological shows and the 700 club, I feel I can understand those suffering from bayis morbidus. Because of the negative stigma associated with this and similar disorders, many people can’t publicly admit to having them. These threads are the only support group many people have.

  37. 37.   Tim Miller - Raleigh, NC Says:

    Oh… my…. god….. Armageddon was so freaking awful, and I’m not even referring to the poor physics/astronomy. Good fiction needs to be able to take away the feeling of disbelief. That lasted about 12 minutes into Armageddon. To think that he’s going to get another chance at wasting resources… bleh.

    I know – we could get Bay and Uwe Boll to put together two stories about 2012, kind of like Tarantino and Rodriquez did for horror flicks, and run them as a double feature, but BAAAAAAAD. Only show it to folks on death row – save money on electricity and drugs.

    (that darn “Cruel and Unusual Punishment” clause might come into affect, though)

  38. 38.   The Chemist Says:

    I disagree. Sure he’s made crap before, but even you admit Transformers was good crap. It’s fiction, even if he believes in it, it could still be a great movie. The director(s) of Harry Potter movies don’t believe in the fiction, but that doesn’t stop the franchise from sucking.

    2012 is nonsense (and an anagram of 2021, when I will be eligible to run for president*) but we can still have fun the way we do when watching Mission to Mars.

    *Has to do with a previous comment I made on another of Phil’s posts. If you don’t get it, don’t worry about it.

  39. 39.   quasidog Says:

    He did Transformers … and I didn’t mind that. (Don’t flame me)

    The one thing I like about his movies is I don’t have to think. It is pure popcorn trash. Sometimes I like that.

    If anything, him making a movie based on 2012 will just make the whole thing look more fantastic and ridiculous than it already is. Bring on the end of the world n stuff!!! I will be there with my box of popcorn, laughing at people taking this stuff too seriously… on both sides.

  40. 40.   andyo Says:

    It takes a lot of talent to have all the freaking money in the world, and screw up a premise like Transformers that badly. I mean it’s one thing that a movie doesn’t require you to think, but another to practically yell at you “you are an idiot!” I know you will find this bumbling-Optimus-Prime garden scene hilarious!

  41. 41.   Paul Says:

    Looks like it is actually two different movies. Emmerich is slated for a 2009 release from Sony. Bay is slated for a 2010 release from Warner Brothers.

  42. 42.   LMR Says:

    Phil,

    You’re being a little hard on him.

    The YEAR 2012 will *exist* … so he still can get ONE thing right.
    All he will get wrong will be the actual EVENTS of that year.

  43. 43.   YetAnotherKevin Says:

    One of the most annoying things about Armageddon is that it eclipsed Deep Impact, a very decent movie.

  44. 44.   Ted H. Says:

    I end up saying this at a lot of places. Michael Bay. Worst. Director. Ever. Give Ed Wood or Roger Corman the budgets he has had, they would have done a better job. You can see F-14s in the background of the scene in Doolittle’s office in ‘Pearl Harbor’. ‘Nuff said.

    Though the worst movie I have ever seen was ‘Natural Born Killers’ by another overrated director guy.

  45. 45.   Joe Says:

    based on something Whitley Streiber wrote? ’nuff said.

  46. 46.   KTH Says:

    No, Armageddon was one of the BEST movies ever! Just about every scene had something so incredibly stupid that it was a laugh a minute. The scene with the rockets approaching the asteroid and encountering debris, with the engines going full blast! “Faster, faster”, I cried, while laughing so hard I almost burst a blood vessel! If the movie had been any funnier I would probably be dead.

  47. 47.   shane Says:

    Speaking of Sunshine, seriously disappointing btw, I watched 28 Weeks Later last night. Not made by Danny Boyle but it is a ripping good sequel to 28 Days Later. Loved it.

  48. 48.   Viewer 3 Says:

    As long as there’s more dunebugging across asteroid-esque terrain, stupid people will love it!

  49. 49.   Jose Says:

    How could Mac and Me be left off of any list of the worst Sci-Fi film. The second clip also brings back fond memories of that time in the 80’s where you couldn’t go anywhere without getting caught in a stamped of spontaneous break dancers.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5le9sYdYkM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdvO0tmNjGo&feature=related

  50. 50.   unthinkableMayhem Says:

    Ted H said : “You can see F-14s in the background of the scene in Doolittle’s office in ‘Pearl Harbor’.”

    Of course you could. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080736/

    Nuff said :]

  51. 51.   John Marley Says:

    it will suck harder than the supermassive black hole in the core of M87

    That’s an awesome comparison. It applies very well to M. Night Shyamalan’s “The Happening”, too.

  52. 52.   IAmMarauder Says:

    He has the reverse Midas touch.
    Lol, I thought I was the only one that used this comment.

    As for Michael Bay – well… I think he made a great “Generic Giant Transforming Robots” movie which is ok to watch. Not great, but OK. As for the sequel – I will wait for the DVD to hit the $10 bargain bin.

  53. 53.   DavidGD Says:

    Hey, wouldn’t be interesting if even 0.00001 % of the far-out predictions were to come true? Imagine how much money that person who made the prediction would be able to acquire. I’ll join the fray with my outlandish prediction that some day the sun will turn upside down!! No, that won’t work, no one would be able to tell that it happened. I guess the next best prediction is that “s*** will happen”

  54. 54.   Dave Hall Says:

    It can get dumber. Woody Harrelson is in it.

  55. 55.   Tomas Says:

    Phil, you wanna watch something really silly :d … have a look at the 2012 Doomsday – http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1132130/. It’s just completely ridiculous … I can’t even get into it :D

  56. 56.   madge Says:

    I’m waiting for the sequel :)

  57. 57.   Mark Says:

    Now wait a minute – “The Core” was BAD? I thought it was a clever parody… hilarious popcorn flic with cardboard characters from start to finish. What am I doing wrong?

  58. 58.   Frans van Otten Says:

    Armageddon worst movie? You guys must have missed Battlefield Earth.

  59. 59.   Jeff Gudme Says:

    The year “2012″, and what many of the ancient people & text from the Mayan calander to the Chinese I-ching say about this sooner, rather than later date is that they are a part of a list that goes onto 20 or more independent sources from the above mentioned to prophetic computer software that predicted 9/11/2001. Not to mention religions that since the beging of religion have not agreed on anything. Have all indepentdantly come together on this one date, not just the year but almost all agree on the exact day and time, kind of spooky if you ask me, might make a good movie, huh. Not to mention many of these sources such as the most noted Mayan calander have a remarkable track record of being right. Moreover, this is a first in doomsday predictions that so many independent sources all came up with the same idea for the same time period, just chance? maybe. If something of global signifigance does not occur in 2012 I would be surprised simply because there is so much about that date everywhere at this point I believe it will self fullfill because of the hype coupled with the state of world affairs. But in the mean time movie producers would be stupid not to take the oppertunity to get the word out about what might be about to happen while making an entertaining movie and a buck at the same time, because in this reality thats what its all about, our entertainment and their making money, Right? Since it is a very popular subject in recent years and as the date itself draws closer what better time than now to make a movie on it. I only wish that when I came up with that same date independent of all the other sources more than 10 years ago I had thought to make a movie of it or t-shirt or something,$$$,to bad. Anyway, with the right cast and director thismovie is sure to be a hit and make large sums of money at the box office, bottom line.

    P.S. If you really want to make money and be successsful on a 2012 movie just throw in Will Smith… Oh wait, they already did. I wonder how that one did at the box office?

  60. 60.   fumba Says:

    I think some of you if not most of you have not educated yourselves enough. If you look at what we do know about the science of what 2012 means in relation to our galaxy and the milky way. Coupled with the insight of the Mayans and their proven knowledge of astronomy. It gives their conclusions of the celestial events that are unfolding a lot more validity than most are so eagerly blowing off as doomsday, Armageddon, religious wackos, vying for press and better church attendance. The Asian and I believe Indian cultures have similar conclusions of these events. For which in my opinion, are worthy of some investigation. The first being the historical information that their knowledge in all three cultures was derived from and is based on E.T. inspired intentional intervention and education. Crazy I know. There are some very startling facts and evidence to ponder. My point is, know before you blow… off the possibility that all be its probably not the breaking of the seventh seal. It could very well be the beginning of some very serious global changes that may drastically affect mankind. Maybe in ways we are not so eager to face but that are very real if we look at what is known. The possibilities that could happen are life changing to say the least. We are the cast and God or mother nature or whatever you believe in is the director. Lets hope we can figure out the script and have the presence of mind to act on this academy award worthy performance. One thing is for sure, we only get one take. So…. places everyone and three, two, one action.

  61. 61.   Dunc Says:

    Armageddon, what I regard as the worst film ever made.

    I take it you have never seen Earthstorm then?

  62. 62.   Ken B. Says:

    I can confidently predict it will suck harder than the supermassive black hole in the core of M87.

    So, you’re saying there’s a chance that this movie will create a miniature black hole that will swallow up the Earth, LHC and all?

  63. 63.   Cody B Says:

    How great would it be if the movie ended completely anticlimactically. After 2 hours of panic and mayhem it ended with nothing happening.

  64. 64.   Michael L Says:

    I don’t think any of these movies can even come close to the truly inspiring, “Attack of the Killer Tomatoes”. Nom, nom, nom.

  65. 65.   Ian Says:

    I would like to see a movie called “2012″ about a zealot who predicts the end of the world, watches civilization crash down around him on his account, and finally discovers that he was wrong. Why can’t anybody make a movie like that?

  66. 66.   heng Says:

    i usually tend to argue, that the only correct fact in “Armageddon” was the scene with the giant pool… the went into the water and came out wet.

    and regarding “2012″… it’s about a “researcher who opens a portal into a parallel universe and makes contact with his double in order to stop an apocalypse foreseen by the ancient Mayans.”
    so, relax, no more science fiction involved than in narnia…

  67. 67.   Torbjörn Larsson, OM Says:

    “Black Holes Don’t Suck!”

    More precisely they are the ultimate in curvature, you have to follow it, and there is no escaping its effects.

    Um, like Pamela Anderson in VIP perhaps?

    I think some of you if not most of you have not educated yourselves enough.

    I suspect that the reason that we will continue to laugh at the 2012 people in 2013 is exactly because most of us are educated enough.

    [The required level isn't particularly high btw, as opposed to most of science basic common sense will do fine in this case.]

  68. 68.   Jose Says:

    @Jeff Gudme Fumba
    The problem is that all these things don’t point towards 2012. They’re all contorted until they point towards 2012, because that’s what they want to believe. When nothing happens, believers will think that they must have made some mistake, recalculate, and agree on a later date. It’s happened before, and it will happen again.

    Computer programs that predict the future are no different. Yes, there are a few statisticians who will back them up, but they’re what’s known as “bad” statisticians. If the people running these programs looked for evidence that 2012 would be the happiest, most uneventful, go lucky year in history, they’d find it.

  69. 69.   Ronn! Blankenship Says:

    One thing _Armageddon_ had over _Deep Impact_, which supposedly benefited from the advice of professional astronomers, is that in _Armageddon_ the amateur astronomers used dim red flashlights at the telescope rather than white flashlights . . . much less the professional astronomer having the entire interior of the observatory lit up while observing . . .

  70. 70.   amphiox Says:

    DavidGD, don’t lose hope yet! There are bound to be assymmetries in plasma currents, flare/prominence activities, and sunspot patterns between the north and south poles of the sun. Sooner or later, some astronomer, somewhere, would be able to tell (if they can’t do so already!)

  71. 71.   Karl O Says:

    I dunno, everybody is naming bad movies as “worst ever.”

    I probably shouldn’t stick my toe in that mess, but I have to say:

    Liztomania was pretty frakkin’ bad. Worst ever? Maybe not. But it was pretty painful to watch. Film society showed it at college under the “so bad it’s good” school of thought. I agree with Quiet Desperation above. Bad is bad.

    As for Core, I skipped that one. Whenever my students bring it up in physics, I punish them with having to calculate the rotational kintetic energy of a ball of iron a hundred miles wide compared to a 100 MT nuclear weapon. (hint: we ain’t got enough!)

  72. 72.   fumba Says:

    I suspect that the reason that we will continue to laugh at the 2012 people in 2013 is exactly because most of us are educated enough.

    [The required level isn’t particularly high btw, as opposed to most of science basic common sense will do fine in this case.]
    A period “.” is needed between science and basic. The level of education required to know that isn’t particularly high, btw.
    Lol, common sense isn’t all that common. If one is not educated about this subject, the fact that the number of cultures that independently came to similar conclusions should make a person with some “common sense,” say, “hmmmm!” You missed my point OM. I encourage you to take a look at what happened about 25,000 years ago to earths climate and the reason that some “educated” people believe was most likely the cause. Which is the same thing that is about to start happening again. Earthquake insurance and a good jacket are at the top of my list of, Important things to own around 2012 to 2040 list.
    I wounder if the penguins will move into the northern hemisphere at some point? When will the water start to spin the opposite direction in the toilet? The answers to cool questions like those are what makes me love science.
    I apologize for my rude comment about most peoples education on this subject. It does tend to raise the hackles on some people when you attack their intelligence. My rebuttal being a perfect example.
    As for the worst movie? I have to go with The attack of the killer tomatoes. To be honest, I think Transformers was a funny, entertaining flick. S.E. were good and remember, its derived from a cartoon and toy line from the 80’s. What else needs to be said?
    As for my intelligence or lack of? It should be very apparent by the amount of time I have waisted, that I have none and you should completely disregard all of my lies I have been feeding you. <—Waves his hand in front of your face and says, “this is not the blog your looking for!”

  73. 73.   Doc Says:

    Um… guys? “Attack of the Killer Tomatoes” was meant to be bad – it was intentionally making fun of films like Plan 9.

    “Barb Wire” on the other hand was not intended to be bad, but was spectacularly so.

  74. 74.   Stu Hayes Says:

    “I can confidently predict it will suck harder than the supermassive black hole in the core of M87″

    Does this mean you are psychic now? May want to make an appointment at JREF for Randi’s million bucks ehh!

    PS: Bay’s films do indeed suck-didily-uck! If anyone was going to make a movie about 2012 BS it would be him.

  75. 75.   jessiee Says:

    woops forgot the website ..

    http://2012comet.com/

    i was laughing all the way thru it .. thought you’d too phil :)

  76. 76.   Anthony Says:

    The world will end in 2012 because that is the year we make first contact with an alien civilization…who will then obliterate us after watching Michael Bay movies.

  77. 77.   Jeff Gudme Says:

    @Jose
    Only time will tell what will happen… But, I predicted 9/11 , that nothing would happen for Y2K, the car crash that happened to the Detroit Red Wings back in the late 90’s, I predicted the housing and energey crisis and the crisis in the middle East all in the early/mid 90’s… By the way expect the stock market to crash in late 2009 early 2010, and there are many more… However, most of these predictions are dominos in the chain of cause and affect which will lead us not to the end of the the world and human existance upon it but it will lead to major global upheval the death of a great many the collapse of governments and the end of the world as we now know it, not of human existance completly. I have had a connection to the mayan calander since I was a young boy, (but I was told it was aztec when I first bought a pendent with it on it in Cancun when I was 14), before I knew what it was and I made my 2012 prediction before knowing anything the mayans and 2012. I feel as if someone has stolen my thunder because until all this other stuff (books/movies) came about I thought I had this date all to myself and was going to prove most importantly to myself but to the skeptics in MY life that I see things before they happen. Now that I also have 20 some other mystic sources pointing at the same date I am only more convinced this date will be one of the largest in Human history to date. I’m sure there are skeptics who took the time to read all this so I will end on this, Last week I had a preminition that a family member would die in the next week or two and well we had my aunts funeral yesterday. you may not be convinced but this kind of crap happens to me all to often to be chance and all I can say is “you try living with this ability in a world of skeptics” it sucks no one listens when things could have been prevented. (What up D.A.P. dumb as rockas) in side joke sorry skeptics…

  78. 78.   Celtic_Evolution Says:

    @ Jeff Gudme

    Considering how keen your powers are… your abilities should be easy to prove, right? Why have you not taken Randi’s challenge?

  79. 79.   Michael L Says:

    Uhh, Jeff. What am I thinking right now?

  80. 80.   Michael L Says:

    “Because 2012 Can’t Get Any Dumber”

    I think it just did…

  81. 81.   CanadianLeigh Says:

    @ Michael L.
    I tried to talk to my wife last night about a living will. I told her I didn’t want to be left watching a electronic device and being nurished from a bottle.
    She said fine, and got up and unplugged my computer and poured out my beer.
    Oh, yeah, right, sorry.

  82. 82.   Jeff Gudme Says:

    Who is Randi and what is his challenge? Oh wait, let me guess I am already supposed to know the answer because of my ability right? Is that what you were looking for? I never said I could read minds, but your thinking “this guy is nuts”, wow what a challenge that was, and I have proven myself in other ways by taking remote viewing classes (the CIA uses it and it works lets not debate facts) and scored over 85%. the first time it happened to me which caused me to take the course I was not even tring it just happened, freaked me out. Has anyone ever considered what might happen if humans were able to use more than 4% of your conscious brain power? Which will and is happening to our species through evolution (don’t tell me you don’t believe in evolution either!)I’ll tell you what will happen Telekineses, mind over matter, the ability to leave one’s boby and return at will (Ascension) and more that is nothing more than nonesense to the lesser evolved of our species. And sense you skeptics need to know, my whats up to D.A.P in the last message I left is to help Prove. D.A.P are the initials of an old friend I have not spoke with in seven years who will find this blog call me and tell me I am still just as crazy as I was in highschool and the dumb as rockas was a play on his last name we all called him in highschool, and I will remind him about what I used to say about Terrorist attacks using planes as missles that would occur within the first year and a half after the turn of the new millenia, and space stations and going to Mars and life being possible on Mars and the list goes on and on and on………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….
    just watch you’ll see
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..2012
    THE END

  83. 83.   Don Snow Says:

    Hi, Ya’ll -

    I wanna tell a 2012 joke. Wanna read it?

    It will explain the mysterios culmination of the Mayan Calendar at 2012.

    The work crew, carving the last Mayan calendar, went to the gang boss. The leadman said, “O, Gang Boss, it’s hot and steamy in this jungle. The water is tepid and infested with mosquito larvae. We need some beer to drink.”

    The gang boss said, “This is true. I will ask the construction supervisor.”

    The gang boss said the same thing to the construcion supervisor. The construction supervisor said, “This is true. I will ask the vizier.”

    The construction supervisor said to the vizier, “O, vizier, my work crew and gang boss are hot and thirsty. The water is tepid and infested with mospuito larvae. Can we have some beer?”

    The vizier said, “Are you kidding?”

    CS said, “No.”

    Vizier, “Come with me to the King.”

    King: “What?”

    Vizier, “Tell him.”

    Construction supervisor: “O, King, my gang boss, leadman and work crew on the caldendar are thirsty. The jungle is hot and steamy. The water is tepid and filled with mosquito larvae. Can we have some beer?”

    King: “Off with their heads!”
    Vizier: “Guards!”

    Sound effects: chunk, thump; chunk, thump; etc.

    Vizier: “O, King, it is done.”
    King: “Good. Find me another supervisor, gang boss, leadman and work crew; and finish the Calendar.”

    Later

    Vizier: “O, King, there is no one left in the kingdom who can write Mayan numbers.”

    Cheerfully,
    Don

  84. 84.   Don Snow Says:

    Hi,Jeff Gudme -

    I listen to Coast to Coast, too.
    (tongue in cheek:)
    Leaving your body is OBE: Out of Body Expierence. Psychics casll it Astral Projection. Ascension is a religious term; or with the word “Right” in front of it, an astronomical term.

    Did you forget levitation? I didn’t see levitation in your post. They say that Buddist monks can levitate. Why did you leave that out?

    smilingly,
    Don

  85. 85.   Jeff Gudme Says:

    Don
    The etcetera should have been implied as far as the list of paranormal abilities and regardless of what I called it (Ascension, OBE, Astral projection) you should’ve know what I meant. There are several words which can have the same meaning regardless of their origins. As for Coast to Coast I am Familiar with it but do not listen, it is on way to late where I live.

  86. 86.   Jeff Gudme Says:

    Don

    Oh ya, your joke needs some work, try it out on your friends first. Maybe its one of those you had to be there moments, but where is the punchline. the mayan number system is as easy as it gets I don’t think that was the problem.

  87. 87.   Todd W. Says:

    @Jeff

    Can you give any details on the abilities you claim? Can you control it at all? If so, under what conditions does it operate? What precisely can you do on demand? Does anything seem to interfere with your claimed ability?

  88. 88.   Michael L Says:

    Don,
    OK, it needs some work. Start small. try this:

    Knock, knock!

    Who’s there?

    Dr.!

    Dr. Who!?

    Get it? Dr. Who!

    See, Dr. Who is a Sci-Fi show…

    Well, I thought it was hil – frackin’ – larious

  89. 89.   Jeff Gudme Says:

    @todd
    when I first started to realize I was experiencing something different I had no controll over it. When your a young kid no one believes anything you say anyway just another kid with an over active imagination so your not sure if it happened or not because parents say things like its just your imagination or coincedence. It would just happen like the First time I Remote viewed it was through my dogs eyes. Yes my dog a yellow lab named Charlie I was asleep in the basement where my room was and I had a waking dream where I was looking through the window out to the backyard and the view I was seeing was from that of something or someone low to the ground like the dog. I saw rain drops hitting the deck then I saw a view of my car in the driveway with the window down and rain going in. I immediatly woke up and ran up stairs the dog was laying by the door where he would have had to be for the view I saw and it was raining and his fur was still wet so he had just been outside, I ran out to my car and the window was down. As far as preminitions go one of the first times It came through fairly clear and I knew it was when the Red Wings had that car crash. about two weeks prior they had won the stanly cup, that same week a girl I went to school with and in fact had even gone to drivers Ed with but was never friends with had been killed in a bad alcohol related car crash. Her story and the Red Wings winning the Stanly cup where back to back on the news and as I watched them I felt something or someone tell me (my late classmate Ashley maybe) some of the Wings players would soon meet a similiar fate. Two weeks later when the story came on the radio about the crash itself not only was I physically very close only within two miles of the crash it freaked my out I thought I was loosing it, but when I went home and had my parents turn on the TV news there it was real as can be. And the day I had the preminition I announced it to the room of people I was with so people around me have seen proof. People always assumme predictions and preminitions have to be about huge world events not the case, usually they are about small everyday random seemingly meaningless things. Every once In awhile they are about major world events. Today I can control it better in that when I have a preminition I realize what it was and write it down. Where as before I would wright it off as a passing thought not realizing the signifigance of it until after the fact. Look up the meaning of my last name it may help give some more insight I only found this one out today but makes it sense. and for the skeptics D.A.P has not reached me yet but he did just call my Dad on Friday since I left that message and asked for my number but has not called me yet, any day now.

  90. 90.   D.A.P. Says:

    You Owe me 500 bucks

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