Comments on: What, no monolith?

By: JALBA DAVID

JALBA DAVID — Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:23:12 +0000

I think that is crucial to NASA to prove wrong the conspiracy theory of hoaxed lunar landings. If was wished so NASA would send a probe to the moon with high rezolution camera to prove the greatness of the american technology of 1969 .But we hear that NASA is to proud to do that. We are the morons that do not want to believe what we are told. we are the scams to doubt the supremacy of american technology. WELL WHAT NOW THAT WE HEAR FROM DONALD RUMSFELD AND HENRY KISSINGER THEMSELVES THAT THE VIDEOS AND PICTURES OF MOON LANDING APOLLO MISSIONS WERE ALL MADE IN MGM STUDIOS ON VERY EARTH ATMOSPHERE IN ENGLAND, REGIZED BY STANLEY KUBRICK ,THE MAKER OF ‘A SPACE ODISSEY 2001′.

By: Achim

Achim — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:54:13 +0000

Hi,
have you did see the reliefs or pictures on the Crater walls?
You have to zoom in the movie, it’s amazing.

By: Michael L

Michael L — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:59:20 +0000

Thanks Canadian

By: CanadianLeigh

CanadianLeigh — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:19:23 +0000

@ Michael L.
I stand corrected. Boy was that fun to watch. I’ll be giving it another watch when I have more time. I’ve never seen it before. If you make it into the big smoke and drop by the store I told you about make sure you take time to eye over their collection of antique telescopes and microscopes. Some have actually been lent out as props for locally filmed Sci-Fi shows. I hope your health is getting better and you can travel next weekend. Best wishes.

By: Michael L

Michael L — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:59:07 +0000

Not sure Canadian, but I had been looking for that crazy show for years.

Here’s a YouTube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HArUmqqiL0s&feature=related

By: CanadianLeigh

CanadianLeigh — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:28:20 +0000

Correct me if I’m wrong (I probably didn’t have to say that) but did the term “clangers” come from gold panning. A clanger was a nugget large enough to make noise in the pan.

By: madge

madge — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:25:40 +0000

Michael
Clangers ROCK! This is me doing my world famous Soup Dragon impression. Blue String Pudding anyone?

By: Doug Ellison

Doug Ellison — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 12:02:25 +0000

Tie Koh. It’s after the man, Tie Koh Bra Hay – http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tycho_Brahe

By: Ronn! Blankenship

Ronn! Blankenship — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 09:49:25 +0000

BTW, I know how most people pronounce the name of the crater, but should the name of the astronomer be pronounced “Tee-koh” or “Tie-koh”? What say you all?

By: Autumn

Autumn — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:18:34 +0000

@ Craig,
The various missions to map the moon have been so successful that a global map of the Moon is more accurate than a global map of the Earth, at least in resoulutions on the order of a few hundred meters. Why would such a unrelentingly successful survey deign to cater to the whims of the tiny number of morons who discount the two most successful missions of exploration in human history, i.e., the mapping of the Lunar surface and the landing of humans on the Lunar surface, only to prove that that which has been done, has been done?
I have a son, he looks (unfortunately) just like me. Do you propose that I have never had intercourse?
Your queries, and I am sorry if I have missed some sarcasm or coded intertube message, are very ignorant of reality.

By: Ronn! Blankenship

Ronn! Blankenship — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:03:28 +0000

Craig Says:
July 18th, 2008 at 9:40 am

Where’s the left-behind Apollo stuff? Surely the imaging quality must be up to getting a snapshot of what the missions left behind?

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None of the Apollo missions landed at Tycho, although it was talked about as a landing site for one of the missions which was cancelled:

Okay, the URL got eaten. Let me try again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_18

. . . ronn!

I always knew that I would see the first man on the Moon.
I never dreamed that I would see the last.
–Dr. Jerry Pournelle

By: amphiox

amphiox — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:56:42 +0000

One thing to remember, Craig, is that the orbiters photographing the landers weren’t sent to Mars with the intent of taking pictures of landers. The high resolution cameras were installed for specific scientific reasons (weight is a premium on spacecraft) and we’re just lucky that they also happen to be able to image the landers.

As far as I know the moon hasn’t been as interesting a target for exploration as Mars for the little while (no history of water, no water-related geology, no possibility of supporting life in the past, etc) so no one has saw it fit to pay for launching a probe to the moon with a camera of similar capability. (No one’s going to pay just for the thrill of silencing a bunch of nuts.)

By: Philip

Philip — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:09:04 +0000

If you browse a bit through the Kaguya site you’ll find 3D renderings of Kaguya compared to photos taken from the ground by Apollo 15 and 17. They are rather proud of the precision of their renderings, so I believe the Tycho picture/movie is not exaggerated in altitude.

One explanation for the “severe relief” of the moon may be its much lower gravity, allowing for steeper slopes and higher cliffs.

By: Michael L

Michael L — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:27:41 +0000

To be fair, NASA did find these “Clangers” that live in craters covered with dust bin lids.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/classic/clangers/images/340/clangers4.jpg

By: Craig

Craig — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:15:01 +0000

@The Centipede – Have you heard that Google is offering a lot of cash for high-def shots of the moon landing sites? Is that true or is that just an urban legend and my wishful thinking?

By: Ala'a

Ala'a — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:52:11 +0000

Cool! For decades I’ve been looking at the crater with the aid of various telescopes, trying to imagine how it would look like from the perspective of an astronaut.

But don’t be silly, surely you didn’t expect to see a black monolith on the surface. Everyone knows that TMA-1 is “buried 30 feet below the lunar surface”

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By: amphiox

amphiox — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:29:49 +0000

If the moon hoaxers were right, what Centipede says the Chinese will do would already have been done by the USSR circa 1972.

By: dre

dre — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:29:39 +0000

As per Tom O’Reilly, I am also interested to know if there is any vertical exaggeration in that movie. Radar and visual imagery from Venus and Mars are so often presented with ridiculous vertical exaggeration that I suspect many folks now believe that the planets have the severe relief they’ve seen in the simulations. I must admit I get angry every time I see such footage. I know some planetary astronomers feel the need to add ‘drama’ to the imagery in order to hold laypersons’ attention, but I wish they would stick to good old real reality.

Vaguely related is the sensation I get when people watch regular 4:3 aspect ratio TV on widescreen sets, all stretched out and weird. Are those folks slowly damaging their senses of natural proportion somehow?

By: The Centipede

The Centipede — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:16:39 +0000

@Craig:

You’re right, I stand corrected. Well, perhaps the Constellation program will include a few recon flights of similar resolution… or, if that’s deemed unnecessary, a mission to just next to Tranquility Base to visit the old site would be cool. ^_^

Statement about possible PRC information warfare remains.

By: Nathanial Burton-Bradford

Nathanial Burton-Bradford — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:13:09 +0000

Hi guys -

Found out how to post them – thanks for the info

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn259/BBurtonBradford/Tycho4.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn259/BBurtonBradford/Tycho6.jpg

Fascinating

By: Michael L

Michael L — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:59:41 +0000

That’s no moon… it’s a Space station!

Seriously, very cool images.

By: zeb

zeb — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:57:59 +0000

@Arthur: Actually the crater is called Giordano Bruno, and is smaller than Tycho.

And actually there is some question whether they actually saw it forming. The impact forming Giordano Bruno should have kicked up so much debris, it should have rained down on Earth as a giant week-long meteor storm, yet no one seems to have noticed.

By: Andy Beaton

Andy Beaton — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:48:06 +0000

According to the book, the monolith was found because it was a strong Magnetic Anomaly. We need a magnetic survey up there right away!

By: Jim

Jim — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:47:38 +0000

Once humans are living on the moon, I’ll be very disappointed if we don’t PUT a monolith there!