www.ptep-online.com/index_files/2006/PP-05-10.PDF

Differing to the authority of Misner, Thorne and Wheeler is not science, just hand waving, as usual. Their book contains much demonstrable nonsense. They don’t even understand escape velocity, and that the Principle of Superposition does not apply in Einstein’s theory. On top of that they don’t even know Schwarzschild’s actual solution and they don’t even know what the variable ‘r’ denotes in their corrupted version of Schwarzschild’s solution, and so they don;t even know elementary differential geometry. All this is easily verified by reading their silly book.

We cannibals await the proofs of the preachers (but they will not come, because Plait, Parsec, Larsson et al. cannot provide them, and instead just tell us that black is white).

Nobody has found an infinitely dense point-mass singularity and nobody has found an event horizon, and so nobody has found a black hole anywhere. All claims for the discovery of black holes are false. And since infinite density is forbidden by the Theory of Relativity, black holes are inconsistent with that Theory.

@ SJC:

Parsec should prove

Why would any of those derivations be applicable to the question whether black holes are sufficiently experimentally verified or not? His description of physics and its history (check for example with the standard reference “Gravitation” by Misner, Thorne, Wheeler) is on the money; yours is not.

@ MacMac:

L.T. More, Professor of Physics at the University of Cincinnati, teased relativists

Again, relevance? In spite of More’s misunderstandings relativity is now universally accepted.

Which, of course, brings the question why you don’t accept it, especially since you have no scientific problems with it to present.

“Thomas F. Glick, ed., The Comparative Reception of Relativity (Kluwer Academic Publishers, 1987), ISBN 9027724989.” 
In the Preface by Stanley Goldberg, “The Assimilation of Relativity in America”, he writes, quote: 
“…  While Lewis and Tolman were endeavoring to convince their colleagues that the theory was empirical and practical, those Americans who did comment on the theory ridiculed it as errant nonsense. L.T. More, Professor of Physics at the University of Cincinnati, teased relativists on the grounds that if they were right then the sun was melting away at an incredible rate and that when a man caught a baseball, the mass of both the ball and the man’s hand should change. But he became deadly serious when he thundered that the “electronicist theories” were a throwback representing an attempt to undermine the three century struggle which science had waged to purge itself of metaphysics, that is, nonsense. …” .

History is about to repeat itself. Plait and Parsec would be well advised to invest some brainjuice in a thorough study of Stephen Crother’s papers at . You will find the logic, mathematics and geometry to be flawless. No fudge factors. The problem might be that this is at a level that could cause your brains to creak and groan a lot before you get it.

Mind you, we still have no way of knowing if the universe ultimately can be described in terms of the mathematics and geometry humans are capable of.

Here’s another quote for you:

In the introduction to his Nobel Lecture on 8 December 2005 at Karolinska Institutet in Stockholm, Sweden, Dr Barry Marshall from Perth, Western Australia made reference to a famous statement by historian Daniel Boorstein:

“The greatest obstacle to knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge”.

He was alluding to the many years of rejection, snubbing and even ridicule he and his colleague and fellow Nobel Prize Laureate Dr Robin Warren had to endure before their discovery was accepted as the truth; a micro-organism, Helicobacter Pylori, could in fact live in the acidic stomach environment and was in fact casually linked to peptic ulcers.