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	<title>Comments on: Followup: Ed Mitchell and UFO believers</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/followup-ed-mitchell-and-ufo-believers/comment-page-23/#comment-201465</link>
		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;CENTER&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/30305348@N08/3747949612/&quot; title=&quot;Aliens&#039; First Day on the Job. by Ivan3man, on Flickr&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2481/3747949612_d53981fc2a_o.jpg&quot; width=&quot;360&quot; height=&quot;329&quot; alt=&quot;Aliens&#039; First Day on the Job.&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/CENTER&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: canadaguy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/followup-ed-mitchell-and-ufo-believers/comment-page-23/#comment-152645</link>
		<dc:creator>canadaguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After twenty five + years of studying ufo&#039;s I alway&#039;s get a laugh at these dolts who say &quot;give me proof&quot;.Sorry but what a complete waste of human skin...simply put...
what more &quot;proof&quot; does a person need than the testimonies of millions of people!!! daily!!! Every corner,nook,and cranny of this planet!!!from presidents to astronauts to police, even very young children who don&#039;t even have the skills nessasary to tell a lie yet these people try to make you believe their liers!!lol  How completly socialy retarded does one have to be to share these uninformed statements?You know who make these statments? People alive today who have no social skills. People who only remember and care about the bad news articles,the bad news events,who had issues growing up with bad people.People with no families floored by their sightings. And especially those that never take a few minutes a day or night to go even outside and study the heavens. Work a holics and socially stunted individuals who like to read their own words and imagine themselves as being informed.They only remember the news about the criminals,the liers.These people don&#039;t realize that the majority of people alive today really are mostly good,honest people,who are forced into this subject and know what a bird and an airplane look like,and are very humbled and even scared into submittion in a similar way that these debunkers are.These folk are scared to go against the grain,scared to go outside and watch the sky&#039;s,scared to come to grips with an alternative understanding.
All the photographic,video,radar proof anyone with a bit of sense could understand. It&#039;s people like these that come running into the house red faced screaming I cant believe what I just saw,then sit down on their computers and contact people like myself who know whats going on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After twenty five + years of studying ufo&#8217;s I alway&#8217;s get a laugh at these dolts who say &#8220;give me proof&#8221;.Sorry but what a complete waste of human skin&#8230;simply put&#8230;<br />
what more &#8220;proof&#8221; does a person need than the testimonies of millions of people!!! daily!!! Every corner,nook,and cranny of this planet!!!from presidents to astronauts to police, even very young children who don&#8217;t even have the skills nessasary to tell a lie yet these people try to make you believe their liers!!lol  How completly socialy retarded does one have to be to share these uninformed statements?You know who make these statments? People alive today who have no social skills. People who only remember and care about the bad news articles,the bad news events,who had issues growing up with bad people.People with no families floored by their sightings. And especially those that never take a few minutes a day or night to go even outside and study the heavens. Work a holics and socially stunted individuals who like to read their own words and imagine themselves as being informed.They only remember the news about the criminals,the liers.These people don&#8217;t realize that the majority of people alive today really are mostly good,honest people,who are forced into this subject and know what a bird and an airplane look like,and are very humbled and even scared into submittion in a similar way that these debunkers are.These folk are scared to go against the grain,scared to go outside and watch the sky&#8217;s,scared to come to grips with an alternative understanding.<br />
All the photographic,video,radar proof anyone with a bit of sense could understand. It&#8217;s people like these that come running into the house red faced screaming I cant believe what I just saw,then sit down on their computers and contact people like myself who know whats going on.</p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/followup-ed-mitchell-and-ufo-believers/comment-page-23/#comment-128776</link>
		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now 1101 comments. Gordon Bennett! :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now 1101 comments. Gordon Bennett! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/followup-ed-mitchell-and-ufo-believers/comment-page-22/#comment-128769</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow, 1100 comments and the internet hasn&#039;t broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow, 1100 comments and the internet hasn&#8217;t broken.</p>
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		<title>By: ManInasia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/followup-ed-mitchell-and-ufo-believers/comment-page-22/#comment-128768</link>
		<dc:creator>ManInasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The point is that travelling at 92% of the speed of light would allow you to travel across the entire milky way in about 110,000 years. Now factor in the age of the universe and you see why there is no time/space/distance problem to getting around and populating the entire galaxy for an advanced civilisation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that travelling at 92% of the speed of light would allow you to travel across the entire milky way in about 110,000 years. Now factor in the age of the universe and you see why there is no time/space/distance problem to getting around and populating the entire galaxy for an advanced civilisation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jose</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/followup-ed-mitchell-and-ufo-believers/comment-page-22/#comment-114249</link>
		<dc:creator>Jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I never said anything will inevitably happen.&lt;/i&gt;

OK.  Maybe you didn’t actually use the word “inevitable”.  I should have used “probably”.  It doesn’t change the argument at all.

&lt;i&gt;BTW, both of the above examples do not break special relativity!&lt;/i&gt;

And neither comes close to meeting the needs of the crafts that you believe are zipping around our atmosphere, so what’s your point?  Very slowly approaching the speed of light is a far cry from the zig zaging, anti-gravity and space warping, you’ve been talking about.  I’ve never said everything you’re suggesting requires magic physics, but these things certainly do.  Why are you making a point of telling me that something that goes at 92% of the speed of light doesn’t violate special relativity like it’s a “gotcha” point?  It’s a given.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I never said anything will inevitably happen.</i></p>
<p>OK.  Maybe you didn’t actually use the word “inevitable”.  I should have used “probably”.  It doesn’t change the argument at all.</p>
<p><i>BTW, both of the above examples do not break special relativity!</i></p>
<p>And neither comes close to meeting the needs of the crafts that you believe are zipping around our atmosphere, so what’s your point?  Very slowly approaching the speed of light is a far cry from the zig zaging, anti-gravity and space warping, you’ve been talking about.  I’ve never said everything you’re suggesting requires magic physics, but these things certainly do.  Why are you making a point of telling me that something that goes at 92% of the speed of light doesn’t violate special relativity like it’s a “gotcha” point?  It’s a given.</p>
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		<title>By: ManinAsia</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/followup-ed-mitchell-and-ufo-believers/comment-page-22/#comment-114242</link>
		<dc:creator>ManinAsia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 06:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, both of the above examples do not break special relativity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, both of the above examples do not break special relativity!</p>
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