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	<title>Comments on: Shakin&#8217; up astrological nonsense</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: No Nonsense Astrology - Astrological advice without the ambiguity</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/shakin-up-astrological-nonsense/comment-page-3/#comment-182693</link>
		<dc:creator>No Nonsense Astrology - Astrological advice without the ambiguity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/shakin-up-astrological-nonsense/comment-page-3/#comment-151368</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  What I&#039;m saying is that, although predictive astrology is indeed a dodgy subject with a less than stellar reputation, the ancient civilizations based everything from the number of days in the week to the number of months in a year to the names of the days of the week to the number of time zones on the globe all on astrological observations.   The practice of astrology was highly revered and leaders of church and state consulted with astrologers routinely.  So, when I hear people speaking disparagingly about it, I like to point out that there&#039;s a little more history to it than they might be aware of.

As for &quot;living by caveman rules&quot;,  I&#039;m not really sure I agree that the analogy is valid given that astrology is far more complex.  But, in the sense that the cavemen understood that their survival depended upon their own ingenuity, yes.  We still live by that rule, I would say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  What I&#8217;m saying is that, although predictive astrology is indeed a dodgy subject with a less than stellar reputation, the ancient civilizations based everything from the number of days in the week to the number of months in a year to the names of the days of the week to the number of time zones on the globe all on astrological observations.   The practice of astrology was highly revered and leaders of church and state consulted with astrologers routinely.  So, when I hear people speaking disparagingly about it, I like to point out that there&#8217;s a little more history to it than they might be aware of.</p>
<p>As for &#8220;living by caveman rules&#8221;,  I&#8217;m not really sure I agree that the analogy is valid given that astrology is far more complex.  But, in the sense that the cavemen understood that their survival depended upon their own ingenuity, yes.  We still live by that rule, I would say.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Plait</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/shakin-up-astrological-nonsense/comment-page-3/#comment-151317</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Plait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg: You&#039;re kidding, right? What does that have to do with anything?

Cavemen used fire. I use fire. Therefore I am living by cavemen rules. Right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg: You&#8217;re kidding, right? What does that have to do with anything?</p>
<p>Cavemen used fire. I use fire. Therefore I am living by cavemen rules. Right?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/shakin-up-astrological-nonsense/comment-page-3/#comment-151304</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 22:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a few questions:

Is the earth part of the solar system?
Does the earth rotate and revolve around the sun?
Does the moon revolve around the earth?
Are there 24 hours in a day and 24 time zones on the globe?
Does 24 divided by 2 equal 12?
Are there 12 hours of AM and 12 hours of PM?
Are there 12 months in a year?
Are there 7 days in a week?
Does the word &quot;Sunday&quot; sound kind of like &quot;sun&quot;?
Does the word &quot;Monday&quot; sound kind of like &quot;moon&quot;?
Does the word &quot;Saturday&quot; sound kind of like &quot;Saturn&quot;?

So, just what part of this do you consider &quot;nonsense&quot;?

I realize that your point is primarily that &quot;predictive&quot; astrology does not work.   There are many examples of that.  There are far too many variables in the equation.  However, you have obviously overlooked the basics.

What an irony that you live by the rules of astrology every day while claiming you can debunk it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a few questions:</p>
<p>Is the earth part of the solar system?<br />
Does the earth rotate and revolve around the sun?<br />
Does the moon revolve around the earth?<br />
Are there 24 hours in a day and 24 time zones on the globe?<br />
Does 24 divided by 2 equal 12?<br />
Are there 12 hours of AM and 12 hours of PM?<br />
Are there 12 months in a year?<br />
Are there 7 days in a week?<br />
Does the word &#8220;Sunday&#8221; sound kind of like &#8220;sun&#8221;?<br />
Does the word &#8220;Monday&#8221; sound kind of like &#8220;moon&#8221;?<br />
Does the word &#8220;Saturday&#8221; sound kind of like &#8220;Saturn&#8221;?</p>
<p>So, just what part of this do you consider &#8220;nonsense&#8221;?</p>
<p>I realize that your point is primarily that &#8220;predictive&#8221; astrology does not work.   There are many examples of that.  There are far too many variables in the equation.  However, you have obviously overlooked the basics.</p>
<p>What an irony that you live by the rules of astrology every day while claiming you can debunk it.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t get a chance to turn on the volume...  not that it matters.  i watched it twice, kept looking those amazing brown eyes... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t get a chance to turn on the volume&#8230;  not that it matters.  i watched it twice, kept looking those amazing brown eyes&#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aldebaran</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/07/30/shakin-up-astrological-nonsense/comment-page-3/#comment-109370</link>
		<dc:creator>Aldebaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Steve, astrology is an Art and is similar to music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Steve, astrology is an Art and is similar to music.</p>
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		<title>By: folcrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>folcrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 04:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice breasts, shame about the astrology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice breasts, shame about the astrology.</p>
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