I know this is old news, but I am posting it for anyone who hasn’t already read about this…

Below is a partial list of witnesses from within military/governmental departments that have given their sworn testimony at the National Press Club, Disclosure Project event…

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell

Astronaut Gordon Cooper

Monsignor Corrado Balducci

Dr. Carol Rosin

Admiral Lord Hill-Norton: Five-Star Admiral, Former Head of the British
Ministry of Defense

Gordon Creighton: Former British Foreign Service Official

Dr. Robert Wood: McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer

Dr. Alfred Webre: Former Senior Policy Analyst Stanford Research Institute

Denise McKenzie: Former SAIC employee

Colonel Phillip J. Corso, Sr.: US Army (ret.)

Colonel Ross Dedrickson: US Air Force/AEC (ret.)

Lieutenant Walter Haut: US Navy

Dr. Hal Puthoff

Dr. Eugene Mallove

Lieutenant Colonel Thomas E. Bearden: US Army (ret)

John Callahan: FAA Head of Accidents and Investigations

Larry Warren, Security Officer, RAF Bentwaters Woodbridge, NATO

Major George A. Filer III – USAF (Ret)

John Maynard: Defense Intelligence Agency (ret.)

Captain Robert Salas: US Air Force, SAC Launch Controller

Don Phillips: USAF, Lockheed Skunkworks, design engineer/CIA Contractor worked with Kelly Johnson

Lt. Col. Charles Brown: USAF (ret.) Office of Special Investigations, Project Grudge

Mark McCandlish: USAF, Conceptual artist for Rockwell X-30 program and HYSTP program

James Kopf: US Navy/NSA, Crypto Communications

Major-General Vasily Alexeyev: Russian Air Force

Nick Pope: British Ministry of Defense Official

Dr. Roberto Pinotti: Italian UFO expert

I’ve also asked John (on the Ed Mitchell Followup thread) to provide details of what he saw, or if I missed it, where it was that he posted. He hasn’t answered me, either.

John, I actually am curious about what it was that you saw. Please post the details. Maybe someone here can help shed light on what you may have seen.

Uh, um, er….right.

@ Jan

He will be later, and the entire history of the second part of the 20th century will also be rewriten. I know this as I have knowledge of this, very much like Mitchell has knowledge of this. You don’t yet have the knowledge of this, so it’s expected for you to be sceptical, but you cannot say aliens aren’t visiting Earth as a truely accurate statement. You can accurately say there is no real physical evidence available to the public that aliens are visiting Earth, and that this means that none are likely to be visiting. But actually you just don’t know, and your available evidence may be lacking to make any real conclusion on the issue. What’s most likely is not always what is true. That is absolutely the same for any sceptic who wishes to make incorrect conclusions.

RAF asked you several times, and I asked you on August 6th, 2008 at 6:53 am, what “evidence” do you have that aliens are here now, and what is this “knowledge” that you and Mitchell have? Were you mistaken when you wrote the words, “I know this and have knowledge of this,” do you really have proof, or were you just making something up?

You have yet on this post or any other post actually provided your “evidence.”

You are free to speculate and hypothesize all you want, but don’t expect us to simply take your word for anything, without having proof.

Right so I can’t talk off topic a bit without suffering your wrath then, or are you done behaving like a child?

And I do not have to say when I’m speculating and when I’m not. You for some reason assume I’m claiming certain things when I didn’t. I’ve detailed a sightings I’ve had in another blog on this site already and I’ve not claimed to know it was aliens. I can speculate whatever I want, and then make further speculation from that, but I have only claimed that I don’t know what I saw. You are asking for justification for everything I speculate, which is absolutely ridiculous.

You still don’t get it that not everyone is a complete believer that wants aliens to exist, I would find it fascinating if they do exist, but I’m only concerned with what’s real and turns out to be the truth.

“If you can’t understand that, then I’m just about “done” with you.”

You actually think you’re doing favours for people by wasting their time, I don’t think so. Are you really so sad that you need to seek people out to attack just for stating they’ve seen something unusual that’s unidentified, and then speculating further on that?

What I believe is happening right now, is the bread and butter system. 20 years ago, every picture of Mars you saw was red. Then we start seeing a blue Mars. Then we hear about possible microbes in a meteor from Mars. Then we send probes to look for these microbes, and we discover possible evidence of ice. Now we are discovering entire frozen glacier pools up there along with Methane gas (sometimes methane gas can be an indicator of life and/or past life.) Slowly but surely, they are whittling away at public apprehension about extraterrestrials and UFOs. They are bringing us into an era where we are accepting of the fact that other planets may have ice/water/microbes/etc. By the time we are finally told the truth about aliens and UFOs, we won’t even care because it will have been slowly hammered into our brains long before. Take care and Thanks!

That’s obviously NOT what I said…one can only wonder just why you find it necessary to “twist” what others say…

You started by saying that there would be evidence indicating that aliens have visited Earth. (and that the history books would have to be re-written). Then, (when you decided that argument wouldn’t “work” for you) you decided it best to change that argument to include ANY aliens discovered ANYWHERE, ANYTIME.

No one here is saying that aliens will not be found somewhere, sometime in the future. What they are saying is that Dr. Mitchell has no evidence that aliens are here, now.

The 2 ideas are not the same, no matter how much you “want” them to be so. If you can’t understand that, then I’m just about “done” with you.

oh I’m sorry I forgot we’re not allowed to speculate not even one little bit. You’re so picky, I wonder why you actually bother replying on here, because it’s not about you wanting to find any evidence, as you’d have more chance of finding that evidence by yourself than by expecting someone to bring it to you. I’m sure you realise that by telling everyone to provide someone physical evidence for you the only thing you’re achieving is self satisfaction, therefore you’re just wishing to make yourself look smug. If you see anything inexpicable and you have no means just like everyone else to gather some physical evidence, then I doubt you would feel so smug when someone else is needing to behave in that same way towards you.

Yes, it “could” mean that…however, you’ve already stated that the history books for the 20th century would have to be re-written.

It would be most helpful if you could refrain from changing your opinion in mid argument.

erm… ask them maybe. Use your imagination, if you actually have one.

What does this have to do with your claim that there will be testable evidence of alien visitation HERE?

I’m pretty sure the human race will either visit other star systems and we will make contact with supposed existing ets in the next 5 billion years. Notice I said one day, that can be as far in the future as you want. A very recent computer simulation puts rocky Earth type planets as fairly common. Yes that is speculation, but it’s fairly reasonable, and don’t forget this is talking about what could happen way way in the future. So I can say it’s fine to say there will be testable evidence one day.

I said I don’t know about some unknown sightings which are 20th and 21st century stuff including personal experiences as well as other documented sightings, get with it mate because other people can’t always do your thinking for you.

So will you be retracting the following?…

“what’s wrong with saying there will be testable evidence one day…”

You can’t even keep your OWN ARGUMENT internally consistant, so why should anyone take you seriously??

In fact if you just suggest that you’ve seen something unusual, you get called a believer, when in fact you can be a sceptical person who has just observed something. And get it into your thick heads, that without any of the witnesses claiming they have definitive proof of aliens, they can perfectly well say what the object looked like, and how nothing mundane fits their observation.

Repeating yourself is irrelevant, personal stories mean something to those who experienced them. In no way have I claimed it as evidence, yet you still find the need to keep disagreeing with something I haven’t even said. What does that tell you about your mentality?

In actual fact who are you to tell anyone that their personal story is completely irrelevant, you have no right to justify that sort of attitute at all. Nobody really has the right to be like that towards anyone in the free world.

And what’s wrong with saying there will be testable evidence one day, are you saying in the next 4-5 billion years there is zero chance of humans travelling to other star systems. You really are a closed minded fool.

That is your belief. For the last 60+ years, the evidence has always been “just around the corner”. What makes your belief any different?

“Personal experiences allow me to have that knowledge…”

How many times must it be stated?…personal stories are irrelevant. Actual evidence is not.

1. There will be testable evidence one day. Until then it’s perfectly fine for those that don’t know to say that they just don’t know.

2. Personal experiences allow me to have that knowledge, but not everyone has that. It’s just pure coincidence for it to happen to anyone.

Your personal stories are worthless.

Evidence. Credible, testable evidence. Nothing else will do…

Santa Clause is just as real as ET! Millions of kids everywhere believe in him!

What evidence do you have to support your claim that the entire history of the second part of the 20th century will be rewritten?

Please note not been able to edit means you can make a mess

“He WON’T be in the history books because of what he says about alien UFO’s.”

He will be later, and the entire history of the second part of the 20th century will also be rewriten. I know this as I have knowledge of this, very much like Mitchell has knowledge of this. You don’t yet have the knowledge of this, so it’s expected for you to be sceptical, but you cannot say aliens aren’t visiting Earth as a truely accurate statement. You can accurately say there is no real physical evidence available to the public that aliens are visiting Earth, and that this means that none are likely to be visiting. But actually you just don’t know, and your available evidence may be lacking to make any real conclusion on the issue. What’s most likely is not always what is true. That is absolutely the same for any sceptic who wishes to make incorrect conclusions.

Yes yes you can make your simple analogy of this being the same for anything someone wishes to claim, like Santa Claus, but there are 3 differences that stands out dramatically – ET undeniably will exist on it’s own planet, large number of multiple witnesses to purported sightings, extraordinarily high levels of whistleblowers.

In the not so far future a large proportion of the human race will be asking themselves questions such as : “Why didn’t we expect them to be here? What about all those people who were saying these were real? How could we have been so stubborn as to ignore that many people?”