Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said.

The UN does not define legality. Switzerland and Taiwan would be in a lot of trouble otherwise. In fact, contrary to the claims of the Tranzis here, there is no such thing as “international law”.

The UN would have gone bonkers.

The UN would have sat on its hands and done nothing. It did nothing for a decade whilst Saddam broke the 1991 Ceasefire Resolutions repeatedly. It did nothing when Saddam was butchering his way through the people of Iraq. In fact, France and Russia who had signed massive oil deals with Saddam, would have had all sanctions against Saddam lifted within months.

…he wasn’t keeping that rumored550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium whose existence has never been verified, any more than the existence of the rumored chemical weapons factories, around as a retirement plan…

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

There are none so blind as those who will not see. Standard liberal behaviour though. Rewriting history to an extent that Creationists would be proud.

themadlolscientist, your sarcasm detector needs cleaning. Happens to the best of us.

And I’m living proof that it happens to the rest of us as well. yourself! …But it’s still my story, and I’m still sticking to it……

@ Dave:

the Obama Kool-Aid

I don’t recall any liberal mass suicides having happened recently. The groups that have done that in recent years, such as Jonestown and the Wackos of Waco, have been rigidly authoritarian and way out on the far right sociopolitically due to their basis in religious fanaticism, and the most deadly terrorist attacks have also arisen from the far right.

Somehow, we liberals aren’t terribly big on barricading ourselves in bunkers, building bombs in our basements, or even wiping ourselves out en masse………..

@ Robert:

yes, they would be liars.

No, they’d simply have their theories proven wrong in light of the new evidence, and science would go on.

Even if I agreed with your POV (which I couldn’t disagree with more), there would still be one important difference: “Lying” (or even simply being wrong) about what’s on the surface of Titan doesn’t get tens (maybe hundreds) of thousands of people killed and throw entire nations into chaos.

…he wasn’t keeping that rumored550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium whose existence has never been verified, any more than the existence of the rumored chemical weapons factories, around as a retirement plan…

There. Fixed that for ya. Had there been any truth to that rumor, it would have been more than just us and the UK up in arms. The UN would have gone bonkers.

Personally, I’m far more inclined to believe facts, such as Dubya & Co. browbeating the FBI director to pin the anthrax scare on Al-Qaeda even after the stuff was shown to have come from a US weapons lab.

He was basing his book on the best conjecture and information available at the time, but it turned out he was 100% wrong. I suppose I could point out hundreds of other points that scientists have been wrong about, brontosaurus and archeoraptor leap to mind, but does that make them liars? Cheats? Phonies? Well, if you use the liberal standard, yes, they would be liars.

Now, if we use common sense, which seems to be sadly lacking on the Left, and look at the matter from a historical viewpoint, (well, except for liberals, history began yesterday…) why would Saddam want people to believe he had weapons of mass destruction? Why, so we wouldn’t risk invading, of course! It was a significant advantage for him to make foreign intelligence agencies think he had them. And, of course, he wasn’t keeping that 550 metric tons of yellowcake uranium around as a retirement plan…

Robert

No, we like to see genocidal dictators hanging from a noose.

Anyone who voted for Bush in 2004? Likewise. Get help.

So anyone who has different political opinions from you are mentally ill? By the Lords of Kobol, what a load of codswallop. Why is it a certain tranche of leftists are so susceptible to this sort of idiotic thinking?

Anyway.

Let’s be clear here, Phil has the right to post what he wants. Its his blog.

But he shouldn’t act surprised when people call him up on his drinking of the Obama Kool-Aid and his wholesale regurgitation of far-leftist propaganda.

HOWEVER, he’s still an utter star when it comes to Science and Rationality, even if his politics utterly stink sometimes. I’d still buy him a pint though, as despite his delusions on the political front by all accounts he’s a good egg. And I speak as someone generally to the right of Genghis Khan on most political matters.

Phil Plait – do you intend to respond to this or is it a case of ‘you can’t handle the truth?’

You are the one who can’t handle the truth. Look at the link in my second comment in this thread. 935 lies by Bush and top White House officials in the two years leading up to the Iraq invasion. Documented. Do you really want to be an apologist for the fascists at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue?