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	<title>Comments on: Pamela on being a graduate vampire</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Drwla</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/05/pamela-on-being-a-graduate-vampire/comment-page-1/#comment-110718</link>
		<dc:creator>Drwla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The guys who talk about how graduate work is/was a  pain in the ass shouldn&#039;t be doing it.  If what you&#039;re doing for the degree isn&#039;t fun (and quite possibly hard work as well), chances are you should be pursuing some other area of endeavor.  The payoff is in your sense of achievement, and in the pride you feel in your results!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The guys who talk about how graduate work is/was a  pain in the ass shouldn&#8217;t be doing it.  If what you&#8217;re doing for the degree isn&#8217;t fun (and quite possibly hard work as well), chances are you should be pursuing some other area of endeavor.  The payoff is in your sense of achievement, and in the pride you feel in your results!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 02:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quiet Desperation Says: 
Hey, the folks who recorded audio on clay pots never got to hear it. 

Now don&#039;t go sassin&#039; me boy! My grandpa had a great collection of clay pot recordin&#039;s!
He had all of the greats; Hamurabi and the Lawyers; the Gilgamesh Trio; Not to mention Sargon&#039;s famous &quot;Tigris Rag&quot;--the long version with the lyre solo!
Can still play &#039;em too ifn I can knap a new point on the needle fer the player--but they don&#039;t make flint like the old days--just this cheap obsidian stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quiet Desperation Says:<br />
Hey, the folks who recorded audio on clay pots never got to hear it. </p>
<p>Now don&#8217;t go sassin&#8217; me boy! My grandpa had a great collection of clay pot recordin&#8217;s!<br />
He had all of the greats; Hamurabi and the Lawyers; the Gilgamesh Trio; Not to mention Sargon&#8217;s famous &#8220;Tigris Rag&#8221;&#8211;the long version with the lyre solo!<br />
Can still play &#8216;em too ifn I can knap a new point on the needle fer the player&#8211;but they don&#8217;t make flint like the old days&#8211;just this cheap obsidian stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: King Aardvark</title>
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		<dc:creator>King Aardvark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was like that during my Masters, except I&#039;m not an astronomer; I&#039;m an engineer.  I only stayed up through the night because during the day my office was filled with other grad students loudly talking about poker.  Not a great work environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was like that during my Masters, except I&#8217;m not an astronomer; I&#8217;m an engineer.  I only stayed up through the night because during the day my office was filled with other grad students loudly talking about poker.  Not a great work environment.</p>
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		<title>By: CanadianLeigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>CanadianLeigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, I should have proof read that last post.  Pardon my spelling.</description>
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		<title>By: CanadianLeigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>CanadianLeigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 19:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Cdn Skeptic,
I had read in our local rag that a couple of astronomers that live in Whistler were trying to raise cash to buy the Dunlop and move it to Whistler as a tourist attraction.  
As much as I like promoting astronomy for the regular public (which I qualify as), I thought this was a stupid idea.  Locating a telescope of that caliber in a steap mountain valley in a rainforest is just plain dumb.  Others I have spoken to at a local astronomy meat agreed and also added that moving anything other that the mirror would be a waist of money.  Much better finding a new use for it where it is.  I know that the U of T has some funding issues, but could this all be part of the anti-science that seems to be building up in various government bodies in our country?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Cdn Skeptic,<br />
I had read in our local rag that a couple of astronomers that live in Whistler were trying to raise cash to buy the Dunlop and move it to Whistler as a tourist attraction.<br />
As much as I like promoting astronomy for the regular public (which I qualify as), I thought this was a stupid idea.  Locating a telescope of that caliber in a steap mountain valley in a rainforest is just plain dumb.  Others I have spoken to at a local astronomy meat agreed and also added that moving anything other that the mirror would be a waist of money.  Much better finding a new use for it where it is.  I know that the U of T has some funding issues, but could this all be part of the anti-science that seems to be building up in various government bodies in our country?</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We had to record our videos on wax cylinders–then wait 50 years for the TV to be invented so we could play them back! &lt;/i&gt;

Hey, the folks who recorded audio on clay pots never got to hear it. :-)

Actually, I don&#039;t think anyone has recovered any audio from a clay pot yet. Didn&#039;t Mythbusters cover that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We had to record our videos on wax cylinders–then wait 50 years for the TV to be invented so we could play them back! </i></p>
<p>Hey, the folks who recorded audio on clay pots never got to hear it. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Actually, I don&#8217;t think anyone has recovered any audio from a clay pot yet. Didn&#8217;t Mythbusters cover that?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quiet Desperation Says: 

Nope. My employer had a satellite video link to USC. I only had to be on campus for exams. Viva la space age! Or is it le? Who thought applying genders to things was a good idea? Pft! Everyone should speak English, the open source language.  

Oh, and they even had VCRs you could program so we could watch the lectures on tape at home the next day.

Slacker! I would have wished for such technology--if it existed back then!  VCRs?? Bah!! We had to record our videos on wax cylinders--then wait 50 years for the TV to be invented so we could play them back! You young &#039;uns got it tooo easy--Now1 Getthehelloffmylawn!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quiet Desperation Says: </p>
<p>Nope. My employer had a satellite video link to USC. I only had to be on campus for exams. Viva la space age! Or is it le? Who thought applying genders to things was a good idea? Pft! Everyone should speak English, the open source language.  </p>
<p>Oh, and they even had VCRs you could program so we could watch the lectures on tape at home the next day.</p>
<p>Slacker! I would have wished for such technology&#8211;if it existed back then!  VCRs?? Bah!! We had to record our videos on wax cylinders&#8211;then wait 50 years for the TV to be invented so we could play them back! You young &#8216;uns got it tooo easy&#8211;Now1 Getthehelloffmylawn!!!</p>
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		<title>By: PsyberDave</title>
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		<dc:creator>PsyberDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is remarkable to me how similar other people&#039;s grad school experiences in any discipline are to my own experience in psychology.  I had initially thought as an undergrad that psychology departments would be filled with nice, caring people. After all, the clinically focused psychologists were in the helping profession.  WRONG!  I found psychology departments to be filled with maladjusted, weird, cranky, nasty, professors with poor social skills.  They weren&#039;t all that way, of course, and some departments were more hospitable than others.  But Pamela&#039;s description as well as others&#039; here rings so true and recognizable to my own experience.

If you love a subject and are hell-bent on getting an advanced degree, I say, go for it.  Just know that it is going to hurt sometimes and you may have several occasions (about 10^15) to doubt yourself and your choices.  

Most importantly, it will be over eventually despite the cruel time dilation that apparently occurs in grad school (Einstein should have included that in his theory).  You will be done one day and for the rest of your life (unless you&#039;re one of those masochists who decides to do it all again and get another degree.  Can&#039;t help you.). And, like repeatedly smashing your head against a wall, it will feel SO good when it stops.  You&#039;ll have your degree, and what I consider life, will resume.  

However, if you do something like Pamela did and go into academia, then you&#039;re just making yourself a colleague of those crazy professors and answering to nasty journal editors, granting committees and tenure committees and your homework becomes reading your student&#039;s homework.  It is like Graduate School 2.0.

I avoided academia. Ten years after graduation that feeling that I don&#039;t have any homework or a paper due still lingers and feels great.  I&#039;m FREE!!!  Woohoo!!!  I can watch TV!  I can read Phil&#039;s blog!  Ahhh.

I think Phil is smart for crafting his career in the way that he has.  It seems to be on his own terms, filled with just the things he wants to fill it with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is remarkable to me how similar other people&#8217;s grad school experiences in any discipline are to my own experience in psychology.  I had initially thought as an undergrad that psychology departments would be filled with nice, caring people. After all, the clinically focused psychologists were in the helping profession.  WRONG!  I found psychology departments to be filled with maladjusted, weird, cranky, nasty, professors with poor social skills.  They weren&#8217;t all that way, of course, and some departments were more hospitable than others.  But Pamela&#8217;s description as well as others&#8217; here rings so true and recognizable to my own experience.</p>
<p>If you love a subject and are hell-bent on getting an advanced degree, I say, go for it.  Just know that it is going to hurt sometimes and you may have several occasions (about 10^15) to doubt yourself and your choices.  </p>
<p>Most importantly, it will be over eventually despite the cruel time dilation that apparently occurs in grad school (Einstein should have included that in his theory).  You will be done one day and for the rest of your life (unless you&#8217;re one of those masochists who decides to do it all again and get another degree.  Can&#8217;t help you.). And, like repeatedly smashing your head against a wall, it will feel SO good when it stops.  You&#8217;ll have your degree, and what I consider life, will resume.  </p>
<p>However, if you do something like Pamela did and go into academia, then you&#8217;re just making yourself a colleague of those crazy professors and answering to nasty journal editors, granting committees and tenure committees and your homework becomes reading your student&#8217;s homework.  It is like Graduate School 2.0.</p>
<p>I avoided academia. Ten years after graduation that feeling that I don&#8217;t have any homework or a paper due still lingers and feels great.  I&#8217;m FREE!!!  Woohoo!!!  I can watch TV!  I can read Phil&#8217;s blog!  Ahhh.</p>
<p>I think Phil is smart for crafting his career in the way that he has.  It seems to be on his own terms, filled with just the things he wants to fill it with.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Yeah, yeah, and you had to walk 20 miles a day to do it–in the snow–uphill–both ways–barefoot!!!&lt;/i&gt;

Nope. My employer had a satellite video link to USC. I only had to be on campus for exams. Viva la space age! Or is it le? Who thought applying genders to things was a good idea? Pft! Everyone should speak English, the open source language. ;-)

Oh, and they even had VCRs you could program so we could watch the lectures on tape at home the next day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yeah, yeah, and you had to walk 20 miles a day to do it–in the snow–uphill–both ways–barefoot!!!</i></p>
<p>Nope. My employer had a satellite video link to USC. I only had to be on campus for exams. Viva la space age! Or is it le? Who thought applying genders to things was a good idea? Pft! Everyone should speak English, the open source language. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh, and they even had VCRs you could program so we could watch the lectures on tape at home the next day.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My best school horror story - my observing partner at U of Toronto back in the 80&#039;s once froze an eyelid to an eyepiece observing in the freezing cold. Luckily, eyepieces are removable. Now I only use eyepieces with rubber cups in the winter.

And it does look like the DDO sale is going through, though some of us still hope that the observatory can be kept running as a public outreach facility, with the cooperation of the new owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best school horror story &#8211; my observing partner at U of Toronto back in the 80&#8242;s once froze an eyelid to an eyepiece observing in the freezing cold. Luckily, eyepieces are removable. Now I only use eyepieces with rubber cups in the winter.</p>
<p>And it does look like the DDO sale is going through, though some of us still hope that the observatory can be kept running as a public outreach facility, with the cooperation of the new owners.</p>
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		<title>By: byron miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>byron miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think that&#039;s bad, try working in IT..

8-10 hour work days and countless work &quot;nights&quot; because in IT you&#039;re merely a seat warmer by day and saving your real work for nights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think that&#8217;s bad, try working in IT..</p>
<p>8-10 hour work days and countless work &#8220;nights&#8221; because in IT you&#8217;re merely a seat warmer by day and saving your real work for nights.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.

Now, I know what my twin brother went through.  Out of High School, he went to college, and I went into the military.  His doctorate&#039;s in math and computers.

To my little experience, grad school sounds like five years of Infantry Trainingt Regiment: up all night, classes during the day, battalion manuevers, equipment orientation for four weeks.  So much crammed into four weeks.  And you guys went through that for years.

Wish this had been here for me to read, when I first found the blog.  I would not have made such a fool of myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>Now, I know what my twin brother went through.  Out of High School, he went to college, and I went into the military.  His doctorate&#8217;s in math and computers.</p>
<p>To my little experience, grad school sounds like five years of Infantry Trainingt Regiment: up all night, classes during the day, battalion manuevers, equipment orientation for four weeks.  So much crammed into four weeks.  And you guys went through that for years.</p>
<p>Wish this had been here for me to read, when I first found the blog.  I would not have made such a fool of myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Astronomy in the Dark Ages at I Think I Need a Shoehorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astronomy in the Dark Ages at I Think I Need a Shoehorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] which I mean, in the age when you did astronomy in the dark.  In response to a post at the Bad Astronomer&#8217;s blog, I was reminded of some long-ago [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] which I mean, in the age when you did astronomy in the dark.  In response to a post at the Bad Astronomer&#8217;s blog, I was reminded of some long-ago [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Some Canadian Skeptic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Some Canadian Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 10:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, university taught me the hard way what a hypnogogic hallucination was the hard way. I&#039;m sure that my Masters will go much better, and I will have no problems sleeping.

CanadianLeigh: the Dunlap deal is nearly finished.  I have some friends in the astronomy dept at UofToronto, and that&#039;s their buzz.  UofT says that they&#039;re going to use the money to improve science education facilities at the main campus.  Still, cold-comfort as far as I&#039;m concerned.

In addition, Montreal has a similar observatory that has been sold, and is about to be torn down.  But, Montreal is doing it right, in that they&#039;re using the money to build a newer, better observatory just outside the city (away from the light pollution)!  If only we in Ontario were so smart/have a basic awareness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, university taught me the hard way what a hypnogogic hallucination was the hard way. I&#8217;m sure that my Masters will go much better, and I will have no problems sleeping.</p>
<p>CanadianLeigh: the Dunlap deal is nearly finished.  I have some friends in the astronomy dept at UofToronto, and that&#8217;s their buzz.  UofT says that they&#8217;re going to use the money to improve science education facilities at the main campus.  Still, cold-comfort as far as I&#8217;m concerned.</p>
<p>In addition, Montreal has a similar observatory that has been sold, and is about to be torn down.  But, Montreal is doing it right, in that they&#8217;re using the money to build a newer, better observatory just outside the city (away from the light pollution)!  If only we in Ontario were so smart/have a basic awareness.</p>
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		<title>By: CanadianLeigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>CanadianLeigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 09:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Skeptic Tim,
What is the latest news on the Dunlap telescope?  Here at the wet coast it has been said that it is up for sale.  It would be a shame for the Toronto area to lose such a historical piece of equipment.  It seems to be the Canadian way to pave over our heritage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Skeptic Tim,<br />
What is the latest news on the Dunlap telescope?  Here at the wet coast it has been said that it is up for sale.  It would be a shame for the Toronto area to lose such a historical piece of equipment.  It seems to be the Canadian way to pave over our heritage.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, What is your opinion on the Dark Rift theory, that we&#039;re boned pretty soon thanks to it...</description>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I like radio astronomy.  We can observe all day AND night.  You never know what your schedule will bring!  But I remember having to do optical or IR labs all night for one class, then going to our other classes the next day.  Once, one of my labmates woke up in the middle of a class after a late-night session and blurted out, &quot;huh?  Is he still talking?!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I like radio astronomy.  We can observe all day AND night.  You never know what your schedule will bring!  But I remember having to do optical or IR labs all night for one class, then going to our other classes the next day.  Once, one of my labmates woke up in the middle of a class after a late-night session and blurted out, &#8220;huh?  Is he still talking?!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptic Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptic Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A wee while ago (about 40 years) I was a grad student trying to get decent spectra from a few late type stars (in those days a curve of growth analysis was a long laborious process): in winter: using the old David Dunlop 72&quot; instrument. (Yep, same one that confirmed black holes many years later). It was difficult enough to get that optical spectroscope to accept a glass photographic plate (suitably bent around its curved mount - glass doesn’t always bend right when its really cold) in October, north of Toronto, but when I actually got my viewing time - during January and February - (nice clear nights, mind you), it took many long, long, cold, cold nights babysitting that magnificent instrument to convince just a few stars to let me try to peak! I wonder if the numbing cold of a few of those nights convinced me to retreat into geophysics (mostly in the north, mostly chilly!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wee while ago (about 40 years) I was a grad student trying to get decent spectra from a few late type stars (in those days a curve of growth analysis was a long laborious process): in winter: using the old David Dunlop 72&#8243; instrument. (Yep, same one that confirmed black holes many years later). It was difficult enough to get that optical spectroscope to accept a glass photographic plate (suitably bent around its curved mount &#8211; glass doesn’t always bend right when its really cold) in October, north of Toronto, but when I actually got my viewing time &#8211; during January and February &#8211; (nice clear nights, mind you), it took many long, long, cold, cold nights babysitting that magnificent instrument to convince just a few stars to let me try to peak! I wonder if the numbing cold of a few of those nights convinced me to retreat into geophysics (mostly in the north, mostly chilly!).</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quiet Desperation Says: 
Pfft. I got my MSEE while working 40 hours a week as an R&amp;D project lead. Lightweights. 


Yeah, yeah, and you had to walk 20 miles a day to do it--in the snow--uphill--both ways--barefoot!!! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quiet Desperation Says:<br />
Pfft. I got my MSEE while working 40 hours a week as an R&#038;D project lead. Lightweights. </p>
<p>Yeah, yeah, and you had to walk 20 miles a day to do it&#8211;in the snow&#8211;uphill&#8211;both ways&#8211;barefoot!!! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Vector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Vector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hah.  I spent a month at Cerro Tololo one summer, and it was totally awesome!  Mostly because I was 9, and if I fell asleep in the dome it was no problem!  Lessee, Magellanic Clouds, giant condors eating meat out of your hand, beautiful mountains, electric carts to drive around in, night assistants to develop all the photos I was taking with my box camera (with VP-620 film!  Yeah, shooting medium-format at age 9, woo-hoo!)  And plenty of Creedence Clearwater Revival in the dome.

And my dad is still cool, even if he&#039;s gone on to studying scallops.  Wait, &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; he&#039;s gone on to studying scallops.

Er, I seem to have gotten off the subject.  I should go post this on my own blog.  kThxBye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hah.  I spent a month at Cerro Tololo one summer, and it was totally awesome!  Mostly because I was 9, and if I fell asleep in the dome it was no problem!  Lessee, Magellanic Clouds, giant condors eating meat out of your hand, beautiful mountains, electric carts to drive around in, night assistants to develop all the photos I was taking with my box camera (with VP-620 film!  Yeah, shooting medium-format at age 9, woo-hoo!)  And plenty of Creedence Clearwater Revival in the dome.</p>
<p>And my dad is still cool, even if he&#8217;s gone on to studying scallops.  Wait, <i>because</i> he&#8217;s gone on to studying scallops.</p>
<p>Er, I seem to have gotten off the subject.  I should go post this on my own blog.  kThxBye.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck, Natalie!</description>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  Tomorrow is the first day of orientation for graduate school (Chemistry).  What&#039;s interesting is no matter how much I hear about all the bad parts, I am so excited to start!  I figure, even if it&#039;s the worst five (?!?!?) years of my life, it will be over and it will still be awesome!  Here&#039;s to hoping!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  Tomorrow is the first day of orientation for graduate school (Chemistry).  What&#8217;s interesting is no matter how much I hear about all the bad parts, I am so excited to start!  I figure, even if it&#8217;s the worst five (?!?!?) years of my life, it will be over and it will still be awesome!  Here&#8217;s to hoping!</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 01:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pfft. I got my MSEE while working 40 hours a week as an R&amp;D project lead. Lightweights. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pfft. I got my MSEE while working 40 hours a week as an R&#038;D project lead. Lightweights. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hall</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was in Grad school many moons ago. And its sad to gear it hasn&#039;t changed very much.  Granted my adventures were in the History department, but social &quot;scientists&quot;seem to feel the need to compensate for not being a real science (Thanks Dr.Science!).  And they pile the crap on too.
The best advice I ever received re: grad School came from one of my undergrad major professors.  He told me: &quot;Its merely survival.  After you&#039;ve been kicking against the pricks--literally and figuratively--long enough they&#039;ll give you your degree and you&#039;ll have made it.&quot;

I almost did. I made it through the MA and got almost ready for my prelims, then life happened.

Probably the only thing of value I really learned was how not to treat my fellow human beings.  I had enough negative examples of arrogant (and ignorant) pedants that I decided I would never be one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was in Grad school many moons ago. And its sad to gear it hasn&#8217;t changed very much.  Granted my adventures were in the History department, but social &#8220;scientists&#8221;seem to feel the need to compensate for not being a real science (Thanks Dr.Science!).  And they pile the crap on too.<br />
The best advice I ever received re: grad School came from one of my undergrad major professors.  He told me: &#8220;Its merely survival.  After you&#8217;ve been kicking against the pricks&#8211;literally and figuratively&#8211;long enough they&#8217;ll give you your degree and you&#8217;ll have made it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I almost did. I made it through the MA and got almost ready for my prelims, then life happened.</p>
<p>Probably the only thing of value I really learned was how not to treat my fellow human beings.  I had enough negative examples of arrogant (and ignorant) pedants that I decided I would never be one.</p>
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		<title>By: BlondeReb3</title>
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		<dc:creator>BlondeReb3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being in Graduate School (granted for a different subject) I can commiserate (I&#039;m so tired I&#039;m not even sure that was spelled correctly).  Having nightmares about Hitler is never fun...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being in Graduate School (granted for a different subject) I can commiserate (I&#8217;m so tired I&#8217;m not even sure that was spelled correctly).  Having nightmares about Hitler is never fun&#8230;</p>
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