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	<title>Comments on: Welcome, Seth, to the club</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Irishman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/08/welcome-seth-to-the-club/comment-page-2/#comment-111995</link>
		<dc:creator>Irishman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John said:
&gt; Only well said if you refer to the specific person or persons as you are generalising on too many people by saying this. Good honest people report something they sighted which they could not and still cannot identify, and people like you placing those people in the same boat as a believer in alien visitation is not very helpful for anyone at all.

There seems to be some confusion here.  &quot;UFO&quot; is frequently not taken in the broad original context of &quot;unidentified&quot; but rather in the narrow common context of &quot;alien spaceship&quot;.  This is something that the writer should attempt to be more careful with, but the reader should also watch for.

In this case, you seem to be jumping on people for equating anyone who claims to not know what they witnessed as someone claiming aliens are invading.  Whereas I think the quotes you were linking to were about people professing their unexplained phenomena were evidence for aliens, rather than just leaving them as unexplained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John said:<br />
> Only well said if you refer to the specific person or persons as you are generalising on too many people by saying this. Good honest people report something they sighted which they could not and still cannot identify, and people like you placing those people in the same boat as a believer in alien visitation is not very helpful for anyone at all.</p>
<p>There seems to be some confusion here.  &#8220;UFO&#8221; is frequently not taken in the broad original context of &#8220;unidentified&#8221; but rather in the narrow common context of &#8220;alien spaceship&#8221;.  This is something that the writer should attempt to be more careful with, but the reader should also watch for.</p>
<p>In this case, you seem to be jumping on people for equating anyone who claims to not know what they witnessed as someone claiming aliens are invading.  Whereas I think the quotes you were linking to were about people professing their unexplained phenomena were evidence for aliens, rather than just leaving them as unexplained.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/08/welcome-seth-to-the-club/comment-page-2/#comment-111635</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need to watch the clips....allow me to summarize:

Believer: Aliens have been visiting the earth for 60 years

Skeptic: What evidence do you have to back that up?

Believer: You are obviously not a real scientist. I don&#039;t waste my time talking to close-minded people like you.


Phil, I don&#039;t know how you and your ilk deal with such ridiculous garbage like this without losing your cool. I tip my hat to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need to watch the clips&#8230;.allow me to summarize:</p>
<p>Believer: Aliens have been visiting the earth for 60 years</p>
<p>Skeptic: What evidence do you have to back that up?</p>
<p>Believer: You are obviously not a real scientist. I don&#8217;t waste my time talking to close-minded people like you.</p>
<p>Phil, I don&#8217;t know how you and your ilk deal with such ridiculous garbage like this without losing your cool. I tip my hat to you!</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/08/welcome-seth-to-the-club/comment-page-2/#comment-111616</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ RAF

&quot;Yet you refuse to share just WHAT that experience was…I must now join those who want you to elabrate…just what was that “experience”.&quot;

Actually I have done, but just not with muppets like you that feel the necessity to insult others.

&quot;I see no one jumping to your defense…to use your analogy, you’re all alone in a leaking boat.&quot;

Why do I need someone to jump to my defense? I&#039;m not claiming anything extraordinary, because in fact so many people have sightings that it&#039;s just something ordinary.  So your metaphor is incorrect, and I find it amusing that you think you have won the argument when I doubt you even know what the argument is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ RAF</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet you refuse to share just WHAT that experience was…I must now join those who want you to elabrate…just what was that “experience”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually I have done, but just not with muppets like you that feel the necessity to insult others.</p>
<p>&#8220;I see no one jumping to your defense…to use your analogy, you’re all alone in a leaking boat.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why do I need someone to jump to my defense? I&#8217;m not claiming anything extraordinary, because in fact so many people have sightings that it&#8217;s just something ordinary.  So your metaphor is incorrect, and I find it amusing that you think you have won the argument when I doubt you even know what the argument is.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lamb</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/08/welcome-seth-to-the-club/comment-page-2/#comment-111200</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Lamb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A really funny novel about this whole phenomenon is Little Green Men by Christopher Buckley. Yeah, it is a government cover-up, but not like anyone thinks. A hoot!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A really funny novel about this whole phenomenon is Little Green Men by Christopher Buckley. Yeah, it is a government cover-up, but not like anyone thinks. A hoot!</p>
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		<title>By: RAF</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/08/welcome-seth-to-the-club/comment-page-2/#comment-111195</link>
		<dc:creator>RAF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John says: &quot;...if you don’t respect the opinions of someone who is being completely rational towards an unexplained personal experience...&quot;

Yet you refuse to share just WHAT that experience was...I must now join those who want you to elabrate...just what was that &quot;experience&quot;.

&quot;...then it’s logical to say that you probably don’t respect anyone else’s opinons either who are in the same boat.&quot;

I see no one jumping to your defense...to use your analogy, you&#039;re all alone in a leaking boat. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John says: &#8220;&#8230;if you don’t respect the opinions of someone who is being completely rational towards an unexplained personal experience&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Yet you refuse to share just WHAT that experience was&#8230;I must now join those who want you to elabrate&#8230;just what was that &#8220;experience&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;then it’s logical to say that you probably don’t respect anyone else’s opinons either who are in the same boat.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see no one jumping to your defense&#8230;to use your analogy, you&#8217;re all alone in a leaking boat. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Don Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 07:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Al Viro -

Ouch!  Ya got me.

Umm, same goes for intelligent life.

Umm, let&#039;s try: couldn&#039;t we expect to meet other humanoids?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Al Viro -</p>
<p>Ouch!  Ya got me.</p>
<p>Umm, same goes for intelligent life.</p>
<p>Umm, let&#8217;s try: couldn&#8217;t we expect to meet other humanoids?</p>
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		<title>By: Al Viro</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/08/welcome-seth-to-the-club/comment-page-2/#comment-111165</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Viro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, seeing that there&#039;s a whole lot of species on the Earth that are not like us physiologically and that they definitely share the same universe...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, seeing that there&#8217;s a whole lot of species on the Earth that are not like us physiologically and that they definitely share the same universe&#8230;</p>
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