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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: fornetti</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/20/pseudolympics/comment-page-2/#comment-114884</link>
		<dc:creator>fornetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 12:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not believe this</description>
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		<title>By: Pareidolia and the Olympics &#171; Virginia Hughes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pareidolia and the Olympics &#171; Virginia Hughes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 15:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (Hat tip: MarkCC; see also The Bad Astronomer) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] (Hat tip: MarkCC; see also The Bad Astronomer) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going back to the maths for a bit...

Phil, your comment about the third-order polynomial reminds me of something I learned as an undergrad - that, if you want to make a straight-line graph, just use logarithmic scales for both axes.  A log-log plot is almost always a straight line, and almost never proves anything (e.g. take a log-log plot of, say, the GDP of Sweden versus world pole-vaulting records - it will be, near as makes no difference, a straight line).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going back to the maths for a bit&#8230;</p>
<p>Phil, your comment about the third-order polynomial reminds me of something I learned as an undergrad &#8211; that, if you want to make a straight-line graph, just use logarithmic scales for both axes.  A log-log plot is almost always a straight line, and almost never proves anything (e.g. take a log-log plot of, say, the GDP of Sweden versus world pole-vaulting records &#8211; it will be, near as makes no difference, a straight line).</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 17:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If by “you people” you mean “well educated and therefore liberal people” then I gladly accept the label.&lt;/i&gt;

I mean people who adhere to a rigid ideology (left, right or whatever) and see the bogeymen of the other side (ie everyone else) in every shadow, but you backed off on the oppression rhetoric, so never mind.

There is no modern ideology that has has a majority lock on the truth or intelligence. This is a big problem because too many continuously quaff their selected ideological poison.

Saying &quot;liberal = smart&quot; is just about as meaningful to me as someone saying &quot;Evangelical = more moral&quot;. It&#039;s also a fallacious way of shutting down debate. The problem with conservatism in this country right now is its infection by religion. Barry Goldwater, a classical conservative (which was much was closer to libertarianism), warned against this very thing decades ago. My hate for the GOP probably transcends that of most &quot;liberals&quot; because they have completely polluted the debate about the balance between the public and the private sectors. Conservatism has forever been shackled to religious idiocy by these pious a**clowns.

But overall I&#039;ve seen too many liberals and conservatives (and all the other ideologues) who espouse the same &quot;solutions&quot; over and over despite there being a lot (in some cases *centuries*) of evidence that it DOES NOT WORK. The fact that a large number of my fellow skeptics cannot apply their skepticism to their [golem voice]precious[/golem voice] political ideologies concerns me a great deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If by “you people” you mean “well educated and therefore liberal people” then I gladly accept the label.</i></p>
<p>I mean people who adhere to a rigid ideology (left, right or whatever) and see the bogeymen of the other side (ie everyone else) in every shadow, but you backed off on the oppression rhetoric, so never mind.</p>
<p>There is no modern ideology that has has a majority lock on the truth or intelligence. This is a big problem because too many continuously quaff their selected ideological poison.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;liberal = smart&#8221; is just about as meaningful to me as someone saying &#8220;Evangelical = more moral&#8221;. It&#8217;s also a fallacious way of shutting down debate. The problem with conservatism in this country right now is its infection by religion. Barry Goldwater, a classical conservative (which was much was closer to libertarianism), warned against this very thing decades ago. My hate for the GOP probably transcends that of most &#8220;liberals&#8221; because they have completely polluted the debate about the balance between the public and the private sectors. Conservatism has forever been shackled to religious idiocy by these pious a**clowns.</p>
<p>But overall I&#8217;ve seen too many liberals and conservatives (and all the other ideologues) who espouse the same &#8220;solutions&#8221; over and over despite there being a lot (in some cases *centuries*) of evidence that it DOES NOT WORK. The fact that a large number of my fellow skeptics cannot apply their skepticism to their [golem voice]precious[/golem voice] political ideologies concerns me a great deal.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did the cubic fit.  It&#039;s horrific.  Mitchell&#039;s idea of &quot;almost exactly&quot; is apparently not the same as mine.

And... why would you use a polynomial fit to data that&#039;s periodic (insofar as it&#039;s sequential at all -- it&#039;s more catagoric than anything)?

Wow.  So much bad math out there.

@CanadianLeigh: if Bolt is not from this planet, how do we determine his star sign?  Oh noes!!one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did the cubic fit.  It&#8217;s horrific.  Mitchell&#8217;s idea of &#8220;almost exactly&#8221; is apparently not the same as mine.</p>
<p>And&#8230; why would you use a polynomial fit to data that&#8217;s periodic (insofar as it&#8217;s sequential at all &#8212; it&#8217;s more catagoric than anything)?</p>
<p>Wow.  So much bad math out there.</p>
<p>@CanadianLeigh: if Bolt is not from this planet, how do we determine his star sign?  Oh noes!!one!</p>
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		<title>By: madge</title>
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		<dc:creator>madge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Michelle
I have to say the Sydney Olympics did it for me as far as presentation and was concerned but I am LOVING these games too. What a pity we in the UK will be hosting them in 2012. Our athletes will do us proud I am sure but I have an awful feeling our organisiation and presentation of the games will be shoddy, tacky, shambolic and cheapskate. I hope I am proved wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Michelle<br />
I have to say the Sydney Olympics did it for me as far as presentation and was concerned but I am LOVING these games too. What a pity we in the UK will be hosting them in 2012. Our athletes will do us proud I am sure but I have an awful feeling our organisiation and presentation of the games will be shoddy, tacky, shambolic and cheapskate. I hope I am proved wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, have you heard that the Canadians made a &quot;Lucky Loony&quot;? Yea, you have to find it and then save it to wish our canadian athletes good luck...

Oh hum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, have you heard that the Canadians made a &#8220;Lucky Loony&#8221;? Yea, you have to find it and then save it to wish our canadian athletes good luck&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh hum.</p>
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