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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Petty. Me. Uk. &#187; Geek Bonfire Burny Burny Fun Time</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-115817</link>
		<dc:creator>Petty. Me. Uk. &#187; Geek Bonfire Burny Burny Fun Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other day, and it turns out A is a friend of Phil Plait, and was lucky enough to be on the recent Galapagos trip. It was fascinating hearing about that, especially the sea [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Joe Bob Hankey</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-115126</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Bob Hankey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmm...Iguana...My favorite...*gurgle gurgle gurgle*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm&#8230;Iguana&#8230;My favorite&#8230;*gurgle gurgle gurgle*</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114807</link>
		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, I hope you realize that the painted line on the ground is not the &quot;real equator&quot;. The actual equator is some 2 miles north of where you were.

Great picture of the marine iguana, a species unique to the Galapagos. I don&#039;t think they&#039;re related to the &quot;kimono&quot; dragons...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I hope you realize that the painted line on the ground is not the &#8220;real equator&#8221;. The actual equator is some 2 miles north of where you were.</p>
<p>Great picture of the marine iguana, a species unique to the Galapagos. I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re related to the &#8220;kimono&#8221; dragons&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 16:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:  &quot;I also highly recommend reading PZ’s transcription of a short speech he made on the cruise about Darwin. It made me appreciate what Darwin did a lot more. I plan on reading On the Origin of Species very soon, in fact, now that I’ve seen from where these ideas came.&quot;

COMMENT:  Darwin&#039;s ideas about evolution were hardly new by the time he got to writing about them -- PZ&#039;s remarks (provided by a link above) elude to this.  Decades earlier others made essentially the same observations &amp; drew comparable conclusions, though they lacked the data to conclusively determine how changes in species occurred.  Notable [but not exclusive] in this regard was the Surgeon/Anatomist John Hunter who as early as 1767 made similar observations regarding a discovered Mastodon tooth/teeth and by 1793, with a huge reference collection of human &amp; animal anatomy (still preserved), when he died, was in the process of writing similar [heretical, for the time] views about evolution.  In his portrait he purposefully selected as one of the background items a notepage portraying the evolutionary progression of skulls (for example), that was some 50 years before Darwin developed, much less published, his culmination effort.  (John Hunter &amp; his home, incidentally, is believed to be the model from which Robert Louis Stevenson patterned his Dr Jekyll &amp; Mr. Hyde character)  

Some people (e.g. Owen) recognized the patterns Hunter &amp; others (including Darwin, decades later) documented, but could not shake their religious handicap &amp; objected to &#039;evolutionary&#039; explanations by insisting this was evidence of a Divine plan; even such academic-theological resistance highlighted the fundamental issues &amp; inspired further study.  

Thus, the development of the theory of evolution/natural selection was, in a sense, a &quot;team effort&quot; as is typical of major developments in most professions/fields. 

This is not meant to demean Darwin so much as put his contribution in proper perspective -- he built on the work of many others and his contribution wasn&#039;t so much innovative as was the culmination of much work by many before him (and unlike many of his predecessor who were heroically outspoken regarding such a heretical conpet as &#039;evolution&#039; [or whatever they referred to it as], Darwin withheld from publication his findings for a decade).   Disregarding them is analogous to [the non-historical scenario, I hope] in which S. Hawking were credited in the not too distant future for the theory of relativity, black holes, etc. because his publications remained widely published &amp; known while others like Einstein, etc. were ignored/overlooked.   

Unfortunately, this pattern of disregarding those that incrementally established the foundation &amp; idolizing those that reached some &quot;finish line&quot; is very common.  Who can name the engineers that made the Wright Brother&#039;s aircraft succeed; or, name the engineers that invented &amp; made Henry Ford&#039;s modern assembly line work; or, name the physicists &amp; engineers that made Von Braun&#039;s rocket visions a reality, etc????

Let&#039;s be sure to give Darwin his due recognition--but only his due and no more.  If for no other [selfish] reason that doing otherwise distorts &amp; undermines our understanding of &amp; appreciation for the history we admire.  Historical reality is far more interesting than [inadvertently] invented myths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:  &#8220;I also highly recommend reading PZ’s transcription of a short speech he made on the cruise about Darwin. It made me appreciate what Darwin did a lot more. I plan on reading On the Origin of Species very soon, in fact, now that I’ve seen from where these ideas came.&#8221;</p>
<p>COMMENT:  Darwin&#8217;s ideas about evolution were hardly new by the time he got to writing about them &#8212; PZ&#8217;s remarks (provided by a link above) elude to this.  Decades earlier others made essentially the same observations &#038; drew comparable conclusions, though they lacked the data to conclusively determine how changes in species occurred.  Notable [but not exclusive] in this regard was the Surgeon/Anatomist John Hunter who as early as 1767 made similar observations regarding a discovered Mastodon tooth/teeth and by 1793, with a huge reference collection of human &#038; animal anatomy (still preserved), when he died, was in the process of writing similar [heretical, for the time] views about evolution.  In his portrait he purposefully selected as one of the background items a notepage portraying the evolutionary progression of skulls (for example), that was some 50 years before Darwin developed, much less published, his culmination effort.  (John Hunter &#038; his home, incidentally, is believed to be the model from which Robert Louis Stevenson patterned his Dr Jekyll &#038; Mr. Hyde character)  </p>
<p>Some people (e.g. Owen) recognized the patterns Hunter &#038; others (including Darwin, decades later) documented, but could not shake their religious handicap &#038; objected to &#8216;evolutionary&#8217; explanations by insisting this was evidence of a Divine plan; even such academic-theological resistance highlighted the fundamental issues &#038; inspired further study.  </p>
<p>Thus, the development of the theory of evolution/natural selection was, in a sense, a &#8220;team effort&#8221; as is typical of major developments in most professions/fields. </p>
<p>This is not meant to demean Darwin so much as put his contribution in proper perspective &#8212; he built on the work of many others and his contribution wasn&#8217;t so much innovative as was the culmination of much work by many before him (and unlike many of his predecessor who were heroically outspoken regarding such a heretical conpet as &#8216;evolution&#8217; [or whatever they referred to it as], Darwin withheld from publication his findings for a decade).   Disregarding them is analogous to [the non-historical scenario, I hope] in which S. Hawking were credited in the not too distant future for the theory of relativity, black holes, etc. because his publications remained widely published &#038; known while others like Einstein, etc. were ignored/overlooked.   </p>
<p>Unfortunately, this pattern of disregarding those that incrementally established the foundation &#038; idolizing those that reached some &#8220;finish line&#8221; is very common.  Who can name the engineers that made the Wright Brother&#8217;s aircraft succeed; or, name the engineers that invented &#038; made Henry Ford&#8217;s modern assembly line work; or, name the physicists &#038; engineers that made Von Braun&#8217;s rocket visions a reality, etc????</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be sure to give Darwin his due recognition&#8211;but only his due and no more.  If for no other [selfish] reason that doing otherwise distorts &#038; undermines our understanding of &#038; appreciation for the history we admire.  Historical reality is far more interesting than [inadvertently] invented myths.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimono Dragon: What you have when your Kimono is to dang long,,,

President Phil: Could also be P^2,,,

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimono Dragon: What you have when your Kimono is to dang long,,,</p>
<p>President Phil: Could also be P^2,,,</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Chatty Cabbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chatty Cabbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 14:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may want to read The Voyage of the Beagle, especially chapter 18.</description>
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		<title>By: aleph1=c</title>
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		<dc:creator>aleph1=c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant Shane, not Peter.</description>
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		<title>By: aleph1=c</title>
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		<dc:creator>aleph1=c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Skorp:&lt;/b&gt; Peter answered your protest about PZ, but I have a question: What the hell is a Kimono Dragon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Skorp:</b> Peter answered your protest about PZ, but I have a question: What the hell is a Kimono Dragon?</p>
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		<title>By: Don Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed reading all the posts, and learned from most.

I&#039;m glad ya&#039;ll enjoyed your adventure.

Thanks, for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed reading all the posts, and learned from most.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad ya&#8217;ll enjoyed your adventure.</p>
<p>Thanks, for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: James Randi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114406</link>
		<dc:creator>James Randi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 13:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As expected, President Plait - I just call him Phil - has expressed himself eloquently in this report. He was everywhere, on board ship and on land, explaining and pointing out features of this Enchanted Land which the Republic of Ecuador has so well preserved and guarded. 

In reply to a comment by &quot;Jozef,&quot; I will say that I was very, very, happy with the extreme care extended by the naturalists who guided and informed us, and the diligence shown by the Celebrity Cruise Line to protect the ecology of the Islands.  I watched a 5 a.m. unloading of garbage and sewage from the ship, in sealed, labeled, sorted, and safe containers - all being transported to the mainland to be incinerated and properly disposed of. Not a scrap of trash went overboard or was left behind. Ecuador really cares, and fulfills its obligations to the world...

Read the upcoming SWIFT for an item about &quot;Jaime,&quot; one of our guides, and you&#039;ll see what I mean.

I thank &quot;Autumn&quot; - and others - for their kind comments.

Our Amaz!ng Adventure was just that, and I&#039;m still glowing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As expected, President Plait &#8211; I just call him Phil &#8211; has expressed himself eloquently in this report. He was everywhere, on board ship and on land, explaining and pointing out features of this Enchanted Land which the Republic of Ecuador has so well preserved and guarded. </p>
<p>In reply to a comment by &#8220;Jozef,&#8221; I will say that I was very, very, happy with the extreme care extended by the naturalists who guided and informed us, and the diligence shown by the Celebrity Cruise Line to protect the ecology of the Islands.  I watched a 5 a.m. unloading of garbage and sewage from the ship, in sealed, labeled, sorted, and safe containers &#8211; all being transported to the mainland to be incinerated and properly disposed of. Not a scrap of trash went overboard or was left behind. Ecuador really cares, and fulfills its obligations to the world&#8230;</p>
<p>Read the upcoming SWIFT for an item about &#8220;Jaime,&#8221; one of our guides, and you&#8217;ll see what I mean.</p>
<p>I thank &#8220;Autumn&#8221; &#8211; and others &#8211; for their kind comments.</p>
<p>Our Amaz!ng Adventure was just that, and I&#8217;m still glowing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Overstroming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overstroming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 11:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here for pictures of boobies but have been grievously misled. 

You got some great photos of the local wildlife and of those weird primates that were wandering around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here for pictures of boobies but have been grievously misled. </p>
<p>You got some great photos of the local wildlife and of those weird primates that were wandering around.</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114391</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Peter&lt;/b&gt;, I saw the water demo on the equator in Uganda. They pour water down a funnel and on one side of the equator it goes down clockwise and on the other it goes down anti-clockwise. I&#039;d forgotten the bit about where it it goes straight down on the equator itself. Hilarious demonstration and if you&#039;re ever on the equator somewhere and a local asks, it is worth a couple of bucks for the show.

&lt;b&gt;Skorp&lt;/b&gt;, about PZ&#039;s antics recently. It&#039;s his blog and he can do what he likes. Freedom of expression and all that. The blog isn&#039;t his science classroom either. PZ says he doesn&#039;t bring up politics or religion in his classes and I take him at face value on that.

&lt;b&gt;Jozef&lt;/b&gt;, why restrict areas like the Galapagos to just scientists? Sounds a bit elitist. ;-) I&#039;m all for restricting numbers of tourists to limit environmental impact but cutting off entire areas of the planet to tourism smacks of one of those anti-human gaia-would-be-better-off-without-us things. For example there are some activists that want to stop all tourist access to the Mountain Gorillas in the Rwanda, Uganda and the Congo. Tourism is probably the one thing that is keeping the last 600 or so gorillas alive. Really seeing these places changes you. You then come back and spread the message. That is a good thing. How many people read dry old scientific journals. How many people read blogs and travelogues?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Peter</b>, I saw the water demo on the equator in Uganda. They pour water down a funnel and on one side of the equator it goes down clockwise and on the other it goes down anti-clockwise. I&#8217;d forgotten the bit about where it it goes straight down on the equator itself. Hilarious demonstration and if you&#8217;re ever on the equator somewhere and a local asks, it is worth a couple of bucks for the show.</p>
<p><b>Skorp</b>, about PZ&#8217;s antics recently. It&#8217;s his blog and he can do what he likes. Freedom of expression and all that. The blog isn&#8217;t his science classroom either. PZ says he doesn&#8217;t bring up politics or religion in his classes and I take him at face value on that.</p>
<p><b>Jozef</b>, why restrict areas like the Galapagos to just scientists? Sounds a bit elitist. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;m all for restricting numbers of tourists to limit environmental impact but cutting off entire areas of the planet to tourism smacks of one of those anti-human gaia-would-be-better-off-without-us things. For example there are some activists that want to stop all tourist access to the Mountain Gorillas in the Rwanda, Uganda and the Congo. Tourism is probably the one thing that is keeping the last 600 or so gorillas alive. Really seeing these places changes you. You then come back and spread the message. That is a good thing. How many people read dry old scientific journals. How many people read blogs and travelogues?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Hall</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114383</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Hall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 06:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is as off topic, but You Jamie and Adam (buddies that you are!) are in the news--http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20080826/sc_space/tvsmythbusterstacklemoonlandinghoaxclaims;_ylt=ArO79LjtAUvebnUA4kfPFn8PLBIF

Check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is as off topic, but You Jamie and Adam (buddies that you are!) are in the news&#8211;http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20080826/sc_space/tvsmythbusterstacklemoonlandinghoaxclaims;_ylt=ArO79LjtAUvebnUA4kfPFn8PLBIF</p>
<p>Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Baird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Baird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 05:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should anyone hope to see even more pics from The Amazing Adventure 3, &lt;a href=&quot;http://phyz.smugmug.com/Travel&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I posted a set of keepers here.&lt;/a&gt; Enjoy!

I was laden with a Canon 40D and three lenses: 10-22mm wide zoom, 24-105mm mid zoom, and 100-400mm tele zoom (and whose size leads me to calling it &quot;The Saturn V&quot;). Add the supporting staff of filters and other gear, and you get a 20-lb shooting vest. Hey, I wasn&#039;t there to look cool, I was there, in part, to try to catch a few nice compositions to hang on to after the trip was over. And I lucked out a couple of times.

What a trip!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should anyone hope to see even more pics from The Amazing Adventure 3, <a href="http://phyz.smugmug.com/Travel" rel="nofollow">I posted a set of keepers here.</a> Enjoy!</p>
<p>I was laden with a Canon 40D and three lenses: 10-22mm wide zoom, 24-105mm mid zoom, and 100-400mm tele zoom (and whose size leads me to calling it &#8220;The Saturn V&#8221;). Add the supporting staff of filters and other gear, and you get a 20-lb shooting vest. Hey, I wasn&#8217;t there to look cool, I was there, in part, to try to catch a few nice compositions to hang on to after the trip was over. And I lucked out a couple of times.</p>
<p>What a trip!</p>
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		<title>By: Autumn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Autumn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The picture of Mr. Randi looking at the inhospitible shore of one of the Galapagos Islands is one that will hopefully appear in many future books by future Goulds and Sagans as an example of an ordinary man whose need to find out what Probably Is supercedes the comfort of what Might Be.  And as a bonus, he brought the ability to question the universe to as many people as any one man since Bacon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The picture of Mr. Randi looking at the inhospitible shore of one of the Galapagos Islands is one that will hopefully appear in many future books by future Goulds and Sagans as an example of an ordinary man whose need to find out what Probably Is supercedes the comfort of what Might Be.  And as a bonus, he brought the ability to question the universe to as many people as any one man since Bacon.</p>
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		<title>By: Skorp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skorp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 23:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You actually did post my rant after being held in moderation...and I look a fool for crying about it....

There are many reasons that you have the best sci blog out there- but that is another one. I really respect the fact that you take on people that disagree with you. And you seem able to handle it better than anybody else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You actually did post my rant after being held in moderation&#8230;and I look a fool for crying about it&#8230;.</p>
<p>There are many reasons that you have the best sci blog out there- but that is another one. I really respect the fact that you take on people that disagree with you. And you seem able to handle it better than anybody else.</p>
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		<title>By: WX Bill</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114338</link>
		<dc:creator>WX Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,
     Now you are no longer a pollywog! Congrats!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,<br />
     Now you are no longer a pollywog! Congrats!</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Tauber</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114326</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess Tauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil- when you read Darwin, please don&#039;t forget that it took him some time, even as a genius, to escape from the bonds of his upbringing in a Great Britain with a very narrow worldview.

His early comments on the Yahgans (Fuegians) were certainly not consistent with his feelings late in his life, after these people were &#039;civilized&#039;  by British missionaries. Unfortunately for the Yahgans, who took up the modern 19th c. mode of life with a passion, civilization only brought them hunger, dispossession, sickness, death, and cultural annihilation. But hey, at least they got &#039;saved&#039;....and Darwin contributed moneys to the missions to make sure of that. Within a few months of his death, though, so were most of them. Maybe they still keep him company in Watauineiwanchi ucan akainix wagun.

Jess Tauber</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil- when you read Darwin, please don&#8217;t forget that it took him some time, even as a genius, to escape from the bonds of his upbringing in a Great Britain with a very narrow worldview.</p>
<p>His early comments on the Yahgans (Fuegians) were certainly not consistent with his feelings late in his life, after these people were &#8216;civilized&#8217;  by British missionaries. Unfortunately for the Yahgans, who took up the modern 19th c. mode of life with a passion, civilization only brought them hunger, dispossession, sickness, death, and cultural annihilation. But hey, at least they got &#8216;saved&#8217;&#8230;.and Darwin contributed moneys to the missions to make sure of that. Within a few months of his death, though, so were most of them. Maybe they still keep him company in Watauineiwanchi ucan akainix wagun.</p>
<p>Jess Tauber</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114323</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 21:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the post I was waiting for ever since you got back for your trip.  I wanted to hear about your Galapagos adventure.  Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the post I was waiting for ever since you got back for your trip.  I wanted to hear about your Galapagos adventure.  Thanks for sharing.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114312</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An ordinary mind looks at an unknown species and says &quot; Wow!. I bet I can eat that,,,&quot;
A better than ordinary mind sees the same thing and says &quot; Wow! So many pretty animals,,,&quot;
An extraordinary mind might say &quot; WoW!  I wonder how they got that way???&quot;

It is the extraordinary mind that draws us onward. Go Darwin and Phil and Randi and,,,

Wish I&#039;d been there,,,well, maybe next time.

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An ordinary mind looks at an unknown species and says &#8221; Wow!. I bet I can eat that,,,&#8221;<br />
A better than ordinary mind sees the same thing and says &#8221; Wow! So many pretty animals,,,&#8221;<br />
An extraordinary mind might say &#8221; WoW!  I wonder how they got that way???&#8221;</p>
<p>It is the extraordinary mind that draws us onward. Go Darwin and Phil and Randi and,,,</p>
<p>Wish I&#8217;d been there,,,well, maybe next time.</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114306</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You didn&#039;t get the basin demonstration at the equator?  The demonstrator takes a basin around 10 feet north of the equator, and pours water in. It swirls down clockwise. He then takes the basin 10 feet south of the equator. The water swirls down counterclockwise. Then, when somebody asks him to do it on the equator, the water doesn&#039;t swirl at all.

I leave you to judge the scientific merit of this demonstration (which my sister saw in Africa), but I&#039;m very surprised that it&#039;s not being offered in South America as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You didn&#8217;t get the basin demonstration at the equator?  The demonstrator takes a basin around 10 feet north of the equator, and pours water in. It swirls down clockwise. He then takes the basin 10 feet south of the equator. The water swirls down counterclockwise. Then, when somebody asks him to do it on the equator, the water doesn&#8217;t swirl at all.</p>
<p>I leave you to judge the scientific merit of this demonstration (which my sister saw in Africa), but I&#8217;m very surprised that it&#8217;s not being offered in South America as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114294</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great pictures and thanks for the info.  I am waiting for the wordsmiths to come up with the descriptions on the podcasts.  I would love to see what your daughter puts down in the enviable school question &quot;of what did you do this summer.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great pictures and thanks for the info.  I am waiting for the wordsmiths to come up with the descriptions on the podcasts.  I would love to see what your daughter puts down in the enviable school question &#8220;of what did you do this summer.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jozef</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114291</link>
		<dc:creator>Jozef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit disappointed to find out that a skeptics meeting is organized at Galapagos Islands. Some critical thinker should realize that the Galapagos Islands should be restricted area only for scientists doing research. His nature risks to be destroyed by the many tourists going over there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit disappointed to find out that a skeptics meeting is organized at Galapagos Islands. Some critical thinker should realize that the Galapagos Islands should be restricted area only for scientists doing research. His nature risks to be destroyed by the many tourists going over there.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114290</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Phil someone with legs whiter than mine!!  Like the screwy perspective on the equator photo with Hrab.  Glad you enjoyed the trip and look forward to looking at more of the pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Phil someone with legs whiter than mine!!  Like the screwy perspective on the equator photo with Hrab.  Glad you enjoyed the trip and look forward to looking at more of the pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: The Science Pundit</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/08/26/galapagos-wrapup/comment-page-1/#comment-114286</link>
		<dc:creator>The Science Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most divorcees would claim to have drawers full of pictures of them posing with a reptile.

OK, just pretend I didn&#039;t say that.  ;-)

Phil,
Looks like a really fun trip.  I am now officially über-jealous!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most divorcees would claim to have drawers full of pictures of them posing with a reptile.</p>
<p>OK, just pretend I didn&#8217;t say that.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Phil,<br />
Looks like a really fun trip.  I am now officially über-jealous!</p>
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