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	<title>Comments on: Obama&#8217;s science policy</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Julia R.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-4/#comment-204124</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our lives, our planet and our surrounding all are a part of science so I&#039;m glad Obama is in the works to prioritize scientific education because our future depends on it.  I also think he should make recycling mandatory for all business/organizations and maybe scientists should develop some kind of device that sorts through trash to sort out the recyclables.  This is just a thought on the new thechnologies that could be and should be developed.  

We can all make a difference too by urging our local school districts to have thorough science curricula.  The school where I work was audited because our students performed low on the state test on all parts including science, but it&#039;s not our teachers it&#039;s the curriculum.  All the employess were interviewed by the district&#039;s instructional superintendents and I made sure to tell them that we lacked a science curriculum and that we need to enlighten and inspire those young minds to be the future scientists that will make a difference.  I&#039;m just so happy Obama is so into science, I hope all goes well with that.  Great leaders don&#039;t just talk, they make things happen and Obama is proving well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our lives, our planet and our surrounding all are a part of science so I&#8217;m glad Obama is in the works to prioritize scientific education because our future depends on it.  I also think he should make recycling mandatory for all business/organizations and maybe scientists should develop some kind of device that sorts through trash to sort out the recyclables.  This is just a thought on the new thechnologies that could be and should be developed.  </p>
<p>We can all make a difference too by urging our local school districts to have thorough science curricula.  The school where I work was audited because our students performed low on the state test on all parts including science, but it&#8217;s not our teachers it&#8217;s the curriculum.  All the employess were interviewed by the district&#8217;s instructional superintendents and I made sure to tell them that we lacked a science curriculum and that we need to enlighten and inspire those young minds to be the future scientists that will make a difference.  I&#8217;m just so happy Obama is so into science, I hope all goes well with that.  Great leaders don&#8217;t just talk, they make things happen and Obama is proving well.</p>
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		<title>By: Monique</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-4/#comment-204014</link>
		<dc:creator>Monique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 18:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our world is changing and growing as well as our technologies. It is important for our country to have the latest and best technologies. Obama has hired a new crew of scientists to research new innovations that will advance America towards a better future by saving money and energy. Obama is committed to science and has invested the largest amount of money in history into scientific research. Scientific education is also being prioritized in order to spark the clean air revolution. Biden and Obama have created the Recovery Act which is the plan to pull our nation out of the recession. In order to achieve goals for new technology and find new innovations, a large investment must be made. Obama has made a historical commitment to science for our country which is very important to the growth and survival of our economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our world is changing and growing as well as our technologies. It is important for our country to have the latest and best technologies. Obama has hired a new crew of scientists to research new innovations that will advance America towards a better future by saving money and energy. Obama is committed to science and has invested the largest amount of money in history into scientific research. Scientific education is also being prioritized in order to spark the clean air revolution. Biden and Obama have created the Recovery Act which is the plan to pull our nation out of the recession. In order to achieve goals for new technology and find new innovations, a large investment must be made. Obama has made a historical commitment to science for our country which is very important to the growth and survival of our economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Spongebob Squarepants</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-4/#comment-198443</link>
		<dc:creator>Spongebob Squarepants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 07:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like to watch Stargate Atlantis episodes and also Lost. I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like to watch Stargate Atlantis episodes and also Lost. I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: joshua</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-4/#comment-149856</link>
		<dc:creator>joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 21:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obama will do a good job</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obama will do a good job</p>
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		<title>By: How will a President Obama impact science, tech and the environment? &#124; ah!</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-4/#comment-133096</link>
		<dc:creator>How will a President Obama impact science, tech and the environment? &#124; ah!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 02:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama’s science policy &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bipolar2</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-124484</link>
		<dc:creator>bipolar2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>** Science doesn&#039;t &quot;run&quot; anything.**

 Large science is totally dependent upon government grants.  Its administrators hustle about like scared House candidates scrounging money all the time. There&#039;d be no WWW without defense dollars from DARPA back in the &#039;60s.

Small-scale university science depends on grants, both US and private. &quot;Pure&quot; research, like God, died a long time ago. 

Technology, which at best is trailing edge science, may attract private capital. But, investment capital expects return short-term. Toys like iPods and iPhones may enrich Steve Jobs and Apple stock holders, but they do nothing but serve trivial ends of popular culture. Big Pharma will fund small pharma, because BibP can only market -- it can no longer create.

If Galileo were alive today, he&#039;d still starve.

bipolar2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>** Science doesn&#8217;t &#8220;run&#8221; anything.**</p>
<p> Large science is totally dependent upon government grants.  Its administrators hustle about like scared House candidates scrounging money all the time. There&#8217;d be no WWW without defense dollars from DARPA back in the &#8217;60s.</p>
<p>Small-scale university science depends on grants, both US and private. &#8220;Pure&#8221; research, like God, died a long time ago. </p>
<p>Technology, which at best is trailing edge science, may attract private capital. But, investment capital expects return short-term. Toys like iPods and iPhones may enrich Steve Jobs and Apple stock holders, but they do nothing but serve trivial ends of popular culture. Big Pharma will fund small pharma, because BibP can only market &#8212; it can no longer create.</p>
<p>If Galileo were alive today, he&#8217;d still starve.</p>
<p>bipolar2</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-120205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wow! Can I vote for the person who actually composed Obama’s answers?&quot;

A common misperception (encouraged, no doubt, by certain media outlets) is that Obama doesn&#039;t write his own responses and speeches.  In fact, he&#039;s one of the presidential candidates we&#039;ve seen in recent years that does:

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1837368,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wow! Can I vote for the person who actually composed Obama’s answers?&#8221;</p>
<p>A common misperception (encouraged, no doubt, by certain media outlets) is that Obama doesn&#8217;t write his own responses and speeches.  In fact, he&#8217;s one of the presidential candidates we&#8217;ve seen in recent years that does:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1837368,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1837368,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: McCain&#8217;s Science Policy &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-120131</link>
		<dc:creator>McCain&#8217;s Science Policy &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] publicly about science. They asked the candidates 14 questions about science policy; last week I analyzed Barack Obama&#8217;s answers. Now it&#8217;s time for John MCain&#8217;s. His full, detailed answers to the 14 questions can be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] publicly about science. They asked the candidates 14 questions about science policy; last week I analyzed Barack Obama&#8217;s answers. Now it&#8217;s time for John MCain&#8217;s. His full, detailed answers to the 14 questions can be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GMACD</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-118470</link>
		<dc:creator>GMACD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CO2 does not cause heating in the atmosphere or anywhere. Please explain to me why then our CO2 emissions are heating up polar ice caps on Mars and some moons at Jupiter and elsewhere?  How are we influencing a solar system wide warming on most stellar bodies? It&#039;s been proven that we&#039;ve actually experienced one of the coolest times on a very long record of extreme temperatures on the planet. Co2 levels are shown only to rise after a warming period. Besides CO2 id a life giving gas for all plant life and I&#039;m sure some other life that we don&#039;t know yet breathes CO2. Do you really want a global tax on the very air that comes out of your lungs? Come on! We&#039;re going to be seeing much cooler temperatures from now on such as the sun has moved in to a cool down cycle. I mean scientifically, if the world is heating up, let&#039;s understand that the greatest source of heat coming to us is the sun but 2/3 of our planet is water. Well water has quite the heating potential right...let&#039;s disseminate this properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CO2 does not cause heating in the atmosphere or anywhere. Please explain to me why then our CO2 emissions are heating up polar ice caps on Mars and some moons at Jupiter and elsewhere?  How are we influencing a solar system wide warming on most stellar bodies? It&#8217;s been proven that we&#8217;ve actually experienced one of the coolest times on a very long record of extreme temperatures on the planet. Co2 levels are shown only to rise after a warming period. Besides CO2 id a life giving gas for all plant life and I&#8217;m sure some other life that we don&#8217;t know yet breathes CO2. Do you really want a global tax on the very air that comes out of your lungs? Come on! We&#8217;re going to be seeing much cooler temperatures from now on such as the sun has moved in to a cool down cycle. I mean scientifically, if the world is heating up, let&#8217;s understand that the greatest source of heat coming to us is the sun but 2/3 of our planet is water. Well water has quite the heating potential right&#8230;let&#8217;s disseminate this properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken B</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-118368</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if anyone is still reading this thread, but McCain finally responded:

http://www.sciencedebate2008.com/www/index.php?id=42</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone is still reading this thread, but McCain finally responded:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sciencedebate2008.com/www/index.php?id=42" rel="nofollow">http://www.sciencedebate2008.com/www/index.php?id=42</a></p>
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		<title>By: Obama on Science &#38; Technology - GigPosters.com</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-117650</link>
		<dc:creator>Obama on Science &#38; Technology - GigPosters.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] information that you need to know about your candidates. McCain has yet to answer these questions.  Obama&#8217;s science policy &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine  (though all this does sound pretty great)    __________________ &quot; Listen to the Pictures [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] information that you need to know about your candidates. McCain has yet to answer these questions.  Obama&#8217;s science policy | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine  (though all this does sound pretty great)    __________________ &quot; Listen to the Pictures [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wow. Go Obama! &#171; Tendrils&#8217; Ink</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-117629</link>
		<dc:creator>Wow. Go Obama! &#171; Tendrils&#8217; Ink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ahead&#8230;&#8230;take a look&#8230;..   Just a peek&#8230;..Here.   If you don&#8217;t have time to read it, here is a short [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] ahead&#8230;&#8230;take a look&#8230;..   Just a peek&#8230;..Here.   If you don&#8217;t have time to read it, here is a short [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Wow &#171; Richard&#8217;s Blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-117613</link>
		<dc:creator>Wow &#171; Richard&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 18:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...]  I don&#8217;t want to bang on about Obama &#8230; but I just read this on Phil Plait&#8217;s [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Darlene Cavalier</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-117504</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene Cavalier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for posting this. I hope you will post McCain&#039;s responses as well (when he provides them). Too few journalists are talking about these issues, which is baffling to me. Obama&#039;s on the record now. That took courage. McCain needs to do the same. It&#039;s not too late for a science debate. Help me understand why the media isn&#039;t joining forces to demand such a debate....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for posting this. I hope you will post McCain&#8217;s responses as well (when he provides them). Too few journalists are talking about these issues, which is baffling to me. Obama&#8217;s on the record now. That took courage. McCain needs to do the same. It&#8217;s not too late for a science debate. Help me understand why the media isn&#8217;t joining forces to demand such a debate&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Grover</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-117499</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate Grover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how many of these cynical venom spewers are being payed McCain Points©? 

In case you didn&#039;t know, conservative (or just plain old troll) comments can be reported on McCain&#039;s web site to &quot;receive points&quot;.  ( http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx )

Being so hopeless you need to have a section that tells the good little sock puppet trolls to hit the blogs with copy-and-paste Talking Points is despicable. A majority of these anti-Obama comments are probably from the McCain spam bots. Bleep-Blip-Boop my robo-friends!

A fun game to play is to compare their free-thinking &quot;comments&quot; with the spam copy-and-paste talking points of the day.

Have fun racking up Spam for McCain Points you little trolls! :]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how many of these cynical venom spewers are being payed McCain Points©? </p>
<p>In case you didn&#8217;t know, conservative (or just plain old troll) comments can be reported on McCain&#8217;s web site to &#8220;receive points&#8221;.  ( <a href="http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.johnmccain.com/ActionCenter/BlogInteract/BlogInteract.aspx</a> )</p>
<p>Being so hopeless you need to have a section that tells the good little sock puppet trolls to hit the blogs with copy-and-paste Talking Points is despicable. A majority of these anti-Obama comments are probably from the McCain spam bots. Bleep-Blip-Boop my robo-friends!</p>
<p>A fun game to play is to compare their free-thinking &#8220;comments&#8221; with the spam copy-and-paste talking points of the day.</p>
<p>Have fun racking up Spam for McCain Points you little trolls! :]</p>
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		<title>By: Discovery Channel podcast interview &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-117425</link>
		<dc:creator>Discovery Channel podcast interview &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 21:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] recently by Dan Sondak for the Discovery Channel podcast, and the &#8216;cast is now online (direct download here). I was unusually lucid during this interview &#8212; coffee, is there nothing it can&#8217;t do? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] recently by Dan Sondak for the Discovery Channel podcast, and the &#8216;cast is now online (direct download here). I was unusually lucid during this interview &#8212; coffee, is there nothing it can&#8217;t do? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk Talamasca</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116947</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Talamasca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mitch Miller

Mitch Miller says, &quot;In the Scopes Monkey trial, a state had laws on the books that made teaching evolution illegal. And they actually tried to prosecute somebody for this!!!&quot;

We currently have laws that will seek to prosecute those studying and experimenting with stem cells. A course of study that has the potential to save and improve many, many lives.

Your point is not well made as the fears and superstitions surrounding this area of study can also meet with dire consequences when its intent is to further humankind, increase our capacity to live more fulfilling, healthy lives and cure diseases.</description>
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<p>Mitch Miller says, &#8220;In the Scopes Monkey trial, a state had laws on the books that made teaching evolution illegal. And they actually tried to prosecute somebody for this!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>We currently have laws that will seek to prosecute those studying and experimenting with stem cells. A course of study that has the potential to save and improve many, many lives.</p>
<p>Your point is not well made as the fears and superstitions surrounding this area of study can also meet with dire consequences when its intent is to further humankind, increase our capacity to live more fulfilling, healthy lives and cure diseases.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirk Talamasca</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116942</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirk Talamasca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 01:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just received this in passing SPAM in the mailbox.. This is in no way an endorsement for the magazine (Newsmax). I just found the topics of the interview to be pertinent to the thread here.

It seems that Ms Palin isn&#039;t concerned about the greenhouse effect at all.

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This edition also includes an exclusive interview with McCain running mate Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin. In this interview she reveals her take on the vice presidency, John McCain, abortion and other issues. She also explains why she doesn&#039;t buy into &quot;global warming&quot; theories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just received this in passing SPAM in the mailbox.. This is in no way an endorsement for the magazine (Newsmax). I just found the topics of the interview to be pertinent to the thread here.</p>
<p>It seems that Ms Palin isn&#8217;t concerned about the greenhouse effect at all.</p>
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<p>This edition also includes an exclusive interview with McCain running mate Alaskan Gov. Sarah Palin. In this interview she reveals her take on the vice presidency, John McCain, abortion and other issues. She also explains why she doesn&#8217;t buy into &#8220;global warming&#8221; theories.</p>
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		<title>By: Daffy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116916</link>
		<dc:creator>Daffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 23:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John W.,

Here you go...you will, of course, just reject it out of hand, thus proving my point.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E5DE1F31F93BA35755C0A9629C8B63</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John W.,</p>
<p>Here you go&#8230;you will, of course, just reject it out of hand, thus proving my point.</p>
<p><a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E5DE1F31F93BA35755C0A9629C8B63" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E5DE1F31F93BA35755C0A9629C8B63</a></p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-09-09 &#171; Unisyc.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116861</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-09-09 &#171; Unisyc.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 21:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Obama’s science policy &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine (tags: science politics obama usa news) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Obama’s science policy | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine (tags: science politics obama usa news) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Vlad</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116831</link>
		<dc:creator>Vlad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 20:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On global warming...

I think it is exceptionally arrogant to believe that humans can have such an outrageous effect on nature.  One volcano pumps more greenhouse gases into the air in one day than we can in 100 years.  I think our arrogance is along the same lines as the arrogance that lead to believing that the earth was the center of the universe back in the Dark Ages.

That being said, I do think we need to be responsible and do everything we can to cut back on our output of greenhouse gases.  We do need to attack this issue aggressively.  I agree that this will lead to engineering breakthroughs that are much needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On global warming&#8230;</p>
<p>I think it is exceptionally arrogant to believe that humans can have such an outrageous effect on nature.  One volcano pumps more greenhouse gases into the air in one day than we can in 100 years.  I think our arrogance is along the same lines as the arrogance that lead to believing that the earth was the center of the universe back in the Dark Ages.</p>
<p>That being said, I do think we need to be responsible and do everything we can to cut back on our output of greenhouse gases.  We do need to attack this issue aggressively.  I agree that this will lead to engineering breakthroughs that are much needed.</p>
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		<title>By: JohnW</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116789</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Look up the numbers yourself; it’s public record.&lt;/i&gt;

What a dodge. If you&#039;re making the argument, provide the evidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Look up the numbers yourself; it’s public record.</i></p>
<p>What a dodge. If you&#8217;re making the argument, provide the evidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116777</link>
		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;ZZMike said: &quot;QuietDesperation misses the mark with this one: “And IF by chance they passed something Dubya didn’t want …”&lt;/i&gt;

Er, I didn&#039;t say that. That was Dave Hall responding to me.

Remember kids, quote carefully. :-) And use italic or bold tags to differentiate them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>ZZMike said: &#8220;QuietDesperation misses the mark with this one: “And IF by chance they passed something Dubya didn’t want …”</i></p>
<p>Er, I didn&#8217;t say that. That was Dave Hall responding to me.</p>
<p>Remember kids, quote carefully. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  And use italic or bold tags to differentiate them.</p>
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		<title>By: Daffy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116741</link>
		<dc:creator>Daffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John W.,

Look up the numbers yourself; it&#039;s public record. Most people didn&#039;t notice Reagan&#039;s tax increases because they came out under employment tax...which most people ignore. Those of us who are self employed noticed because we have the money in our hands, and then have to then turn it over to the IRS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John W.,</p>
<p>Look up the numbers yourself; it&#8217;s public record. Most people didn&#8217;t notice Reagan&#8217;s tax increases because they came out under employment tax&#8230;which most people ignore. Those of us who are self employed noticed because we have the money in our hands, and then have to then turn it over to the IRS.</p>
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		<title>By: ZZMike</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/08/obamas-science-policy/comment-page-3/#comment-116739</link>
		<dc:creator>ZZMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tacitus: &quot;... Get that? Two thirds of all corporations operating in the US did not pay a dime in federal taxes in the seven years of the study (and nothing has changed in the past three years).&quot;

Care to guess how much taxes were paid by ExxonMobil, Shell, ...?

&quot;About 25 percent of the U.S. corporations not paying corporate taxes were considered large corporations, meaning they had at least $250 million in assets ...&quot;

You might consider that no-one pays taxes on assets. (But it&#039;s early yet - Obama might get elected.)  You pay taxes on net income, which is Profit - Expenses.

If even one of these companies were evading their fair tax, they&#039;d be up Enron Creek.

QuietDesperation gets it.  True, tax laws are even more arcane than the Kabbalah, but they&#039;re what they have to work with.

People who think these are &quot;loopholes&quot; are the same ones who think that all the money is really the government&#039;s, and they just let us use a little of it now and again.  (Some other people talking about a big expensive program, like to say, &quot;Good thing it&#039;s government money and not ours&quot;.)

QuietDesperation misses the mark with this one:  &quot;And IF by chance they passed something Dubya didn’t want ...&quot;

You mean things like the billions in pork-barrel earmarks that the Democrats push through with painful regularity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tacitus: &#8220;&#8230; Get that? Two thirds of all corporations operating in the US did not pay a dime in federal taxes in the seven years of the study (and nothing has changed in the past three years).&#8221;</p>
<p>Care to guess how much taxes were paid by ExxonMobil, Shell, &#8230;?</p>
<p>&#8220;About 25 percent of the U.S. corporations not paying corporate taxes were considered large corporations, meaning they had at least $250 million in assets &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You might consider that no-one pays taxes on assets. (But it&#8217;s early yet &#8211; Obama might get elected.)  You pay taxes on net income, which is Profit &#8211; Expenses.</p>
<p>If even one of these companies were evading their fair tax, they&#8217;d be up Enron Creek.</p>
<p>QuietDesperation gets it.  True, tax laws are even more arcane than the Kabbalah, but they&#8217;re what they have to work with.</p>
<p>People who think these are &#8220;loopholes&#8221; are the same ones who think that all the money is really the government&#8217;s, and they just let us use a little of it now and again.  (Some other people talking about a big expensive program, like to say, &#8220;Good thing it&#8217;s government money and not ours&#8221;.)</p>
<p>QuietDesperation misses the mark with this one:  &#8220;And IF by chance they passed something Dubya didn’t want &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>You mean things like the billions in pork-barrel earmarks that the Democrats push through with painful regularity?</p>
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