Comments on: LHC: go for injection!

By: crystal

crystal — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:03:17 +0000

Hi, I believe the only safety promise CERN has made about the LHC not causing mini black holes to cause harm on Earth is that Hawkings theory will make them “disappear” (*cough*). Well… that’s not really good enough for me. Hawking has changed his mind about black holes before apparently.. I think Einstein is a better bet on black holes. Let’s see.. if CERN LHC creates black holes we hare supposed to accept the theory of ONE human being, just one physicist who never won a Nobel Prize for his amazing theory, that we are all safe lols. Well sorry, I agree with the concerns about LHC safety of Prof Otto Rossler, Dr Walter Wagner, Teresa E Tutt, Ph.D, Nuclear Engineering Texas A&M University, Dr. Paul J. Werbos, National Science Foundation, Nuclear physicist and lawyer Walter L. Wagner, James Blodgett, Master’s degree in statistics and leader the Mensa Special Interest Group Global Risk Reduction and many other physicists, including some wish to remain anonymous. There is no rush to do the LHC experiments.. no ones lives are depending on it, except perhaps Hawkings who wants his Nobel Prize so badly lols.. Lets have all the safety concerns addressed properly and with full disclosure before the LHC is allowed to operate. I have a share in this planet like everyone else. We all have a right to say whether this experiment can go ahead or not. CERN does not own Planet Earth and Planet Earth is not CERNS open air laboratory to conduct risky experiments that serve no purpose except to satisfy some untested theories. These types of physicists brought us the Atomic Bomb in the past (they don’t like to remember this I guess)… what next..

By: Mk

Mk — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 11:06:55 +0000

I see that “Me” person hasn’t come back then.

He probably got alcohol poisoning and made his own end.

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By: Babel

Babel — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 11:35:48 +0000

LHC is nothing but another tower of Babel.

By: Todd W.

Todd W. — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 03:20:11 +0000

@CapitalismKills

Your criticism of Phil’s first reason is flawed. He does not say “so it won’t end now”. Rather, he says:

so odds are pretty good it won’t end tonight. Historically, it’s the way to bet.

Your conclusion that “therefore the world will never end” is a misinterpretation.

Reason 2, IIRC, is in several parts. This is from memory, so I may get some things wrong. First, the chances of creating a mini black hole or a strangelet is so infinitessimally small that it is as good as zero. Second, the hypothesis that does conclude that a mini black hole could be created also holds that such an MBH would go poof almost immediately. Third, even if an MBH were to stay around for an extended period of time, it would be far too small to actually do anything. Someone in one of the other threads did some calculations to figure out its size.

This is just my stab at this as I understand it. Phil or someone else may be able to shed a bit more light on it.