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	<title>Comments on: Obama: NASA and Nobels</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/27/obama-nasa-and-nobels/comment-page-2/#comment-133287</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:52:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NASA isn&#039;t as expensive as everyone assumes--they&#039;re barely getting by on a shoestring budget using whatever chump change is left over from other government agencies.  Check out the cost of this war, check out the cost of other state departments.  I&#039;m an engineer, and although I don&#039;t work for NASA I work with satellites.  Almost everyone I knew in school was inspired by the space program.  If Obama hurts NASA then many (not all, but a significant portion) will loose interest in science and math.  Many kids today don&#039;t even believe we went to the moon because our gov has been so feckless RE: space travel.

He wants to delay the constellation program?  I can&#039;t believe I voted for that guy. ....HUGE mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NASA isn&#8217;t as expensive as everyone assumes&#8211;they&#8217;re barely getting by on a shoestring budget using whatever chump change is left over from other government agencies.  Check out the cost of this war, check out the cost of other state departments.  I&#8217;m an engineer, and although I don&#8217;t work for NASA I work with satellites.  Almost everyone I knew in school was inspired by the space program.  If Obama hurts NASA then many (not all, but a significant portion) will loose interest in science and math.  Many kids today don&#8217;t even believe we went to the moon because our gov has been so feckless RE: space travel.</p>
<p>He wants to delay the constellation program?  I can&#8217;t believe I voted for that guy. &#8230;.HUGE mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: McCain promises NASA money &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/27/obama-nasa-and-nobels/comment-page-2/#comment-127620</link>
		<dc:creator>McCain promises NASA money &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 17:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That&#8217;s nice to hear. I&#8217;m pretty concerned over the next few years for NASA, and more money will help, though it cannot solve all the problems. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That&#8217;s nice to hear. I&#8217;m pretty concerned over the next few years for NASA, and more money will help, though it cannot solve all the problems. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/27/obama-nasa-and-nobels/comment-page-2/#comment-126480</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 20:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can&#039;t believe anything Obama says on NASA. He has changed his position 180 degrees in the past year.

During the primary (when Florida didn&#039;t count for Democrats), Obama said he was going to delay development of Aries and Orion in order to pay for &quot;early education&quot; programs. Later, when it became clear that this was hurting his general election chances in Florida, he changed his position to say he would not delay development of Constellation vehicles but he kept his platform silent about going to the moon or mars. And then in September, he changed his position to the point that he is in favor of doing absolutely everything including going to the Moon and Mars. Who knows what he will actually do if he become President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can&#8217;t believe anything Obama says on NASA. He has changed his position 180 degrees in the past year.</p>
<p>During the primary (when Florida didn&#8217;t count for Democrats), Obama said he was going to delay development of Aries and Orion in order to pay for &#8220;early education&#8221; programs. Later, when it became clear that this was hurting his general election chances in Florida, he changed his position to say he would not delay development of Constellation vehicles but he kept his platform silent about going to the moon or mars. And then in September, he changed his position to the point that he is in favor of doing absolutely everything including going to the Moon and Mars. Who knows what he will actually do if he become President.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/27/obama-nasa-and-nobels/comment-page-2/#comment-122376</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Well, all you believes of the church of manmade global warming.

read this:

http://www.eap-journal.com/download.php?file=671

Have a nice day&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So now a single economist knows more climatology than all of the world&#039;s climate scientists?  Oh, please.  You are arguing from authority, and I do not accept your economist as an authority.

Did you have a point, Dick?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Well, all you believes of the church of manmade global warming.</p>
<p>read this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.eap-journal.com/download.php?file=671" rel="nofollow">http://www.eap-journal.com/download.php?file=671</a></p>
<p>Have a nice day</p></blockquote>
<p>So now a single economist knows more climatology than all of the world&#8217;s climate scientists?  Oh, please.  You are arguing from authority, and I do not accept your economist as an authority.</p>
<p>Did you have a point, Dick?</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/27/obama-nasa-and-nobels/comment-page-2/#comment-122375</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sully said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;MaDeR - “one rocket launch have about same footprint as one fly of jumbojet through ocean”

Sure it does - if you destroy the jumbojet completely with no recycling after it takes that one flight and generate all the CO2 it takes to build another one.

Some activities of NASA have made scientific sense over the past 20 years. Other activities, such as the ISS and almost all of the manned space program, have been like the twitchings of a headless snake, only on an enormously costly scale.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

While I agree that the ISS is a waste, your argument, without numbers, is no more than arm-waving.  Perhaps you should look up some figures before making such claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sully said:</p>
<blockquote><p>MaDeR &#8211; “one rocket launch have about same footprint as one fly of jumbojet through ocean”</p>
<p>Sure it does &#8211; if you destroy the jumbojet completely with no recycling after it takes that one flight and generate all the CO2 it takes to build another one.</p>
<p>Some activities of NASA have made scientific sense over the past 20 years. Other activities, such as the ISS and almost all of the manned space program, have been like the twitchings of a headless snake, only on an enormously costly scale.</p></blockquote>
<p>While I agree that the ISS is a waste, your argument, without numbers, is no more than arm-waving.  Perhaps you should look up some figures before making such claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/27/obama-nasa-and-nobels/comment-page-2/#comment-122374</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz B said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;RL:
If scientists want the public to listen to them and believe them as objective experts of FACTS, then the last thing they should do is become active participants in the political process advocating for this candidate or that one.

Translation: “The voices of the smart and well-informed have no place in political discourse. Leave it to prattling pastors turning out the fundy vote.”

If this attitude wins out in the U.S. come November, I’ll be voting for our Robot Overlords as humans will have proven themselves beyond reasonable doubt to be unfit to rule the planet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No, no, Liz.  It&#039;s only &lt;i&gt;Americans&lt;/i&gt; that will have proven themselves unfit to rule the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz B said:</p>
<blockquote><p>RL:<br />
If scientists want the public to listen to them and believe them as objective experts of FACTS, then the last thing they should do is become active participants in the political process advocating for this candidate or that one.</p>
<p>Translation: “The voices of the smart and well-informed have no place in political discourse. Leave it to prattling pastors turning out the fundy vote.”</p>
<p>If this attitude wins out in the U.S. come November, I’ll be voting for our Robot Overlords as humans will have proven themselves beyond reasonable doubt to be unfit to rule the planet.</p></blockquote>
<p>No, no, Liz.  It&#8217;s only <i>Americans</i> that will have proven themselves unfit to rule the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/27/obama-nasa-and-nobels/comment-page-2/#comment-122371</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 11:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mk said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Moon -Mars. It’s a great big exciting adventure… unfortunately, nothing more.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Until we start building radio telescope arrays on the far side of the Moon...!  Think of the science we could do with that.

Especially if they were FFT telescopes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mk said:</p>
<blockquote><p>Moon -Mars. It’s a great big exciting adventure… unfortunately, nothing more.</p></blockquote>
<p>Until we start building radio telescope arrays on the far side of the Moon&#8230;!  Think of the science we could do with that.</p>
<p>Especially if they were FFT telescopes.</p>
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