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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Frieda Mcbride</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-471591</link>
		<dc:creator>Frieda Mcbride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 10:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Touche. Sound arguments. Keep up the amazing effort.</description>
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		<title>By: Shuttle safety dance &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-174166</link>
		<dc:creator>Shuttle safety dance &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 13:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was done before, last September, again for the Hubble servicing mission. But that launch was scrubbed due to a failure of a component on Hubble. The launch was delayed until May of this year so that a spare part could be moved into the Shuttle [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was done before, last September, again for the Hubble servicing mission. But that launch was scrubbed due to a failure of a component on Hubble. The launch was delayed until May of this year so that a spare part could be moved into the Shuttle [...]</p>
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		<title>By: La NASA comienza a reconfigurar el Hubble : Blogografia /version beta/</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-125940</link>
		<dc:creator>La NASA comienza a reconfigurar el Hubble : Blogografia /version beta/</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] El componente estropeado, denominado Control Unit/Science Data Formatter, destacado en rojo en esta imagen - Foto NASA vía Bad Astronomy Blog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] El componente estropeado, denominado Control Unit/Science Data Formatter, destacado en rojo en esta imagen &#8211; Foto NASA vía Bad Astronomy Blog [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Selección Digital&#187; microsiervos.com &#187; La NASA comienza a reconfigurar el Hubble</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-125936</link>
		<dc:creator>Selección Digital&#187; microsiervos.com &#187; La NASA comienza a reconfigurar el Hubble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 00:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] El componente estropeado, denominado Control Unit/Science Data Formatter, destacado en rojo en esta imagen - Foto NASA vía Bad Astronomy Blog [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] El componente estropeado, denominado Control Unit/Science Data Formatter, destacado en rojo en esta imagen &#8211; Foto NASA vía Bad Astronomy Blog [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Again, the Universe makes me go &#8220;wow!&#8221; &#171; Peculiar Velocity</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-125632</link>
		<dc:creator>Again, the Universe makes me go &#8220;wow!&#8221; &#171; Peculiar Velocity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 02:51:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to send pictures back down to Earth for a few weeks now, as it&#8217;s come down with a bad case of broken electronics. In the meantime, they&#8217;ve still been able to do useful science by obtaining ever-more [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to send pictures back down to Earth for a few weeks now, as it&#8217;s come down with a bad case of broken electronics. In the meantime, they&#8217;ve still been able to do useful science by obtaining ever-more [...]</p>
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		<title>By: NASA will try to fix Hubble tomorrow &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-125598</link>
		<dc:creator>NASA will try to fix Hubble tomorrow &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] couple of weeks ago, a component on Hubble failed (read that link for the back story here). This critical piece of hardware controls almost all the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] couple of weeks ago, a component on Hubble failed (read that link for the back story here). This critical piece of hardware controls almost all the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hubble Heritage&#8217;s diamond gift &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122668</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubble Heritage&#8217;s diamond gift &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Hubble is having its woes right now, and even if it gets fixed its own clock is ticking. It was launched in April 1990 &#8212; I still remember it well, as I had just signed up to use it for my PhD project &#8212; and nothing lasts forever. But Hubble has taken thousands upon thousands of observations, all of which have been stored away. And while Hubble may eventually be shut off, the images, spectra, and other data it&#8217;s taken will live on. Astronomers a century from now will be digging through the archives, looking for an elusive supernova, a feature of a nebula that&#8217;s changed in the intervening years, the positions of stars in globular clusters, and the colors of galaxies so far away that when the light Hubble detected left them, the Earth was still a cooling ball of molten rock. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Hubble is having its woes right now, and even if it gets fixed its own clock is ticking. It was launched in April 1990 &#8212; I still remember it well, as I had just signed up to use it for my PhD project &#8212; and nothing lasts forever. But Hubble has taken thousands upon thousands of observations, all of which have been stored away. And while Hubble may eventually be shut off, the images, spectra, and other data it&#8217;s taken will live on. Astronomers a century from now will be digging through the archives, looking for an elusive supernova, a feature of a nebula that&#8217;s changed in the intervening years, the positions of stars in globular clusters, and the colors of galaxies so far away that when the light Hubble detected left them, the Earth was still a cooling ball of molten rock. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Buzz Parsec</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122341</link>
		<dc:creator>Buzz Parsec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone asked it is time to give up on Hubble and move on.  The JWST (often called Hubble&#039;s replacement, but it isn&#039;t really) won&#039;t be ready for launch until 2013 at the earliest.  Building and launching a true replacement for Hubble would cost at least $1.5B, or at least 3 times the cost of the servicing mission, and would take many years.  (My guess would be it would probably be quicker than the JWST if it was built to Hubble&#039;s specs and used as much spare equipment, the replacement instruments planned for SM4, etc., but would still take years to build.)

JWST will orbit at the Earth-Sun L2 point, about 1.5M km outside the Earth&#039;s orbit.   (By contrast, the Earth is about 100 times as far or about 150M km from the Sun.)  It is much too far away for the Shuttle to reach it and unlike Hubble, isn&#039;t designed for in-orbit servicing or repairs.   The Orion could get there by using an Earth Departure Stage launched by an Ares 5. like a Moon mission, but I don&#039;t think there are any plans for that, even as a contingency.  No grapple fixtures, for example.  I think it would make a good rehearsal mission before a moon landing (testing out everything in deep space, much quicker and easier than an asteroid rendezvous, and you don&#039;t get stuck if the LSAM fails.)

Someone in the other thread wondered if it would make more sense to put the Hubble on (or near?) the ISS to make servicing easier.  I think it would make sense to put observatories and other large, serviceable satellites in orbits in the same plane but somewhat higher than the ISS.  Raising or lowering the orbit of a satellite requires a relatively small amount of fuel.  (By contrast, orbital plane changes (such as changing from the Hubble&#039;s 28 degree orbit to the ISS&#039;s 50 degree orbit, or changing between two misaligned 50 degree orbits requires *HUGE* quantities of fuel. )  They could park the observatory in a co-planar orbit a few hundred miles about the ISS, and when they needed to service it, they could send a small space tug-type vehicle (a Soyuz, Progess, Orion, Dragon or ATV could all do the job it it was equipped with a small robot arm with a grappling adapter) that
would rendezvous with it, grab it and pull it back to the ISS.  Then ISS-based astronauts could then repair it, replace instruments, etc. using parts sent up on a Progress, ATV or other ISS supply flight.  They could take as long as necessary (wouldn&#039;t be restricted to a 14-day shuttle mission) and could check it out before using the tug to send it back to its parking orbit.  (By placing it in a higher orbit, it would remove any danger of it colliding with the ISS or lost cameras, tools, etc. or arriving or departing supply or crew flights, it would be exposed to less contamination from rocket exhaust, waste water, etc. than in the immediate vicinity  of the ISS, and there would be less air friction to cause its orbit to decay at a higher altitude.   (The shuttle servicing missions always boost the Hubble to the highest possible altitude before they leave for this reason.)

(They wouldn&#039;t want to just leave the observatory permanently attached to the ISS because then it would be subject to all the bumps of dockings, reboosts, people moving around inside, pumps moving water and fuel and thus changing the center of mass, the solar wings rotating, etc.  For many payloads (e.g. the AMS) this wouldn&#039;t matter but it would wreak havoc with a high-resolution telescope.  (Remember the Skylab astronauts running around the inside of it, creating artificial gravity for themselves?  I saw what that did to the solar telescope data.  Not pretty!  Well, actually, it was kind of interesting, but scientifically worthless.)

However, to move the Hubble to such an orbit would require retrieving it and bringing it back to Earth on one shuttle flight, and then re-launching it into the ISS&#039;s orbit on a 2nd flight.  For the same cost, they could do 2 servicing missions.  And the shuttle may not be powerful enough to launch it to the ISS orbit...  Hubble is currently in a 28 degree orbit which provides the maximum payload for a rocket launched from Cape Canaveral.  Launching to a higher (or lower) inclination orbit reduces the maximum payload significantly.  The ISS is in a 50 degree orbit to maximize the payload from Baikonur.  I don&#039;t think Soyuz&#039;s could reach it if it were in a lower inclination orbit, though that would increase the maximum payload for American and European launches to it.  That&#039;s one of the things that many people think is wrong with the ISS.

Maybe the next space observatory will take advantage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone asked it is time to give up on Hubble and move on.  The JWST (often called Hubble&#8217;s replacement, but it isn&#8217;t really) won&#8217;t be ready for launch until 2013 at the earliest.  Building and launching a true replacement for Hubble would cost at least $1.5B, or at least 3 times the cost of the servicing mission, and would take many years.  (My guess would be it would probably be quicker than the JWST if it was built to Hubble&#8217;s specs and used as much spare equipment, the replacement instruments planned for SM4, etc., but would still take years to build.)</p>
<p>JWST will orbit at the Earth-Sun L2 point, about 1.5M km outside the Earth&#8217;s orbit.   (By contrast, the Earth is about 100 times as far or about 150M km from the Sun.)  It is much too far away for the Shuttle to reach it and unlike Hubble, isn&#8217;t designed for in-orbit servicing or repairs.   The Orion could get there by using an Earth Departure Stage launched by an Ares 5. like a Moon mission, but I don&#8217;t think there are any plans for that, even as a contingency.  No grapple fixtures, for example.  I think it would make a good rehearsal mission before a moon landing (testing out everything in deep space, much quicker and easier than an asteroid rendezvous, and you don&#8217;t get stuck if the LSAM fails.)</p>
<p>Someone in the other thread wondered if it would make more sense to put the Hubble on (or near?) the ISS to make servicing easier.  I think it would make sense to put observatories and other large, serviceable satellites in orbits in the same plane but somewhat higher than the ISS.  Raising or lowering the orbit of a satellite requires a relatively small amount of fuel.  (By contrast, orbital plane changes (such as changing from the Hubble&#8217;s 28 degree orbit to the ISS&#8217;s 50 degree orbit, or changing between two misaligned 50 degree orbits requires *HUGE* quantities of fuel. )  They could park the observatory in a co-planar orbit a few hundred miles about the ISS, and when they needed to service it, they could send a small space tug-type vehicle (a Soyuz, Progess, Orion, Dragon or ATV could all do the job it it was equipped with a small robot arm with a grappling adapter) that<br />
would rendezvous with it, grab it and pull it back to the ISS.  Then ISS-based astronauts could then repair it, replace instruments, etc. using parts sent up on a Progress, ATV or other ISS supply flight.  They could take as long as necessary (wouldn&#8217;t be restricted to a 14-day shuttle mission) and could check it out before using the tug to send it back to its parking orbit.  (By placing it in a higher orbit, it would remove any danger of it colliding with the ISS or lost cameras, tools, etc. or arriving or departing supply or crew flights, it would be exposed to less contamination from rocket exhaust, waste water, etc. than in the immediate vicinity  of the ISS, and there would be less air friction to cause its orbit to decay at a higher altitude.   (The shuttle servicing missions always boost the Hubble to the highest possible altitude before they leave for this reason.)</p>
<p>(They wouldn&#8217;t want to just leave the observatory permanently attached to the ISS because then it would be subject to all the bumps of dockings, reboosts, people moving around inside, pumps moving water and fuel and thus changing the center of mass, the solar wings rotating, etc.  For many payloads (e.g. the AMS) this wouldn&#8217;t matter but it would wreak havoc with a high-resolution telescope.  (Remember the Skylab astronauts running around the inside of it, creating artificial gravity for themselves?  I saw what that did to the solar telescope data.  Not pretty!  Well, actually, it was kind of interesting, but scientifically worthless.)</p>
<p>However, to move the Hubble to such an orbit would require retrieving it and bringing it back to Earth on one shuttle flight, and then re-launching it into the ISS&#8217;s orbit on a 2nd flight.  For the same cost, they could do 2 servicing missions.  And the shuttle may not be powerful enough to launch it to the ISS orbit&#8230;  Hubble is currently in a 28 degree orbit which provides the maximum payload for a rocket launched from Cape Canaveral.  Launching to a higher (or lower) inclination orbit reduces the maximum payload significantly.  The ISS is in a 50 degree orbit to maximize the payload from Baikonur.  I don&#8217;t think Soyuz&#8217;s could reach it if it were in a lower inclination orbit, though that would increase the maximum payload for American and European launches to it.  That&#8217;s one of the things that many people think is wrong with the ISS.</p>
<p>Maybe the next space observatory will take advantage.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Vector</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Vector</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Underdog, oops! I mean Shoeshine Boy asks:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Does NASA keep spare Hubble “Science Instrument Command and Data Handling System” units laying around?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I mentioned in the last post about Hubble, but for the benefit of those who didn&#039;t see it...

Yes, there is a spare SI C&amp;DH unit on the ground.  Actually, there are two, but one of them only has one side working(!)  The good one was built after launch, and has been used for ground testing of new instruments as they have been built.  It was built to fly, so it has rad-hard electronics and all the appropriate paperwork, but it hasn&#039;t undergone &lt;a href=&quot;http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a010200/a010239/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;environmental testing&lt;/a&gt;.  It may have some additional liens, like some parts may need to be conformally coated, or connectors may need to be replaced with EVA-friendly ones (ever tried to install a D-submini connector while wearing astronaut gloves?)  Or it may be all ready to be tested and flown.  But that&#039;s at least a two month process, even if it passes all the tests.  Any modifications will add to that time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underdog, oops! I mean Shoeshine Boy asks:</p>
<blockquote><p>Does NASA keep spare Hubble “Science Instrument Command and Data Handling System” units laying around?</p></blockquote>
<p>I mentioned in the last post about Hubble, but for the benefit of those who didn&#8217;t see it&#8230;</p>
<p>Yes, there is a spare SI C&#038;DH unit on the ground.  Actually, there are two, but one of them only has one side working(!)  The good one was built after launch, and has been used for ground testing of new instruments as they have been built.  It was built to fly, so it has rad-hard electronics and all the appropriate paperwork, but it hasn&#8217;t undergone <a href="http://svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/vis/a010000/a010200/a010239/" rel="nofollow">environmental testing</a>.  It may have some additional liens, like some parts may need to be conformally coated, or connectors may need to be replaced with EVA-friendly ones (ever tried to install a D-submini connector while wearing astronaut gloves?)  Or it may be all ready to be tested and flown.  But that&#8217;s at least a two month process, even if it passes all the tests.  Any modifications will add to that time.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubble Trouble &#171; SpaceWatch Michigan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122179</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubble Trouble &#171; SpaceWatch Michigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Dr. Phil Plait has more details on his Bad Astronomy blog. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: David D.G.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122101</link>
		<dc:creator>David D.G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s not known exactly what piece of the SDF failed, but the whole schmeer is basically on the fritz.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

C&#039;mon, Phil, quit showing off with the technical jargon -- you know we&#039;re mostly just laypeople here.


~David D.G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s not known exactly what piece of the SDF failed, but the whole schmeer is basically on the fritz.</p></blockquote>
<p>C&#8217;mon, Phil, quit showing off with the technical jargon &#8212; you know we&#8217;re mostly just laypeople here.</p>
<p>~David D.G.</p>
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		<title>By: Timechick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122099</link>
		<dc:creator>Timechick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could always go with the classical definition of a planet.  That is if you can see it in the sky and it moves against the &quot;fixed&quot; stars, it&#039;s a planet.  Else, come up with some sort of scientific name for it.  This of course would make the Sun and the Moon planets and Neptune and possibly Uranus would be downgraded, but at least it&#039;s pretty definite.   :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could always go with the classical definition of a planet.  That is if you can see it in the sky and it moves against the &#8220;fixed&#8221; stars, it&#8217;s a planet.  Else, come up with some sort of scientific name for it.  This of course would make the Sun and the Moon planets and Neptune and possibly Uranus would be downgraded, but at least it&#8217;s pretty definite.   <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hubble reparatiemissie is uitgesteld en Astroblogs</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122092</link>
		<dc:creator>Hubble reparatiemissie is uitgesteld en Astroblogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:26:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] De Science Data Formatter De reparatiemissie van de Atlantis Space Shuttle, gepland voor vrijdag 10 oktober 2008, is uitgesteld tot minstens februari 2009. Oorzaak is dat de Hubble in safe mode is geraakt, een ander woord voor slaaptoestand.  Dat is op haar beurt weer veroorzaakt door een slecht functionerend onderdeel van de Hubble, de Control Unit/Science Data Formatter - Side A. Op de foto zie je dat onderdeel en het heeft na 18 jaar van trouwe dienst de geest gegeven. Het draait met name om die Science Data Formatter (SDF), die de waarneemgegevens van de Hubble keurig in pakketjes stopt, er een header aan geeft en ze dan met een snelheid van 1 Mb per seconde naar de Aarde stuurt. Geen SDF, dan ook geen data naar de Aarde, simpel. Nou is er één hoop en dat is Side B. Yep, er is van dat hele instrument ook een Side B, een reserveonderdeel. Vóór de lancering in 1990 in de Hubble geplaatst en daarna nooit meer aangeraakt. Maar activeren van Side B is helaas niet een kwestie van een knop genaamd Side B indrukken, want daar komt veel bij kijken. Vijf andere modules die gegevens van Hubble verwerken moeten naar hùn Side B worden overgezet. Dat schijnt allemaal vanaf Aarde te kunnen worden geregeld, maar het is tijdrovend. Als de Side A &gt; Side B overgang goed gaat zou Hubble weer z&#8217;n gegevens naar aarde kunnen sturen. Maar dan heb je de situatie dat één reserveonderdeel essentiëel wordt en da&#8217;s ook niet wenselijk. NASA wil daarom sowieso een geheel nieuwe SDF plus control unit naar de Hubble brengen. Dat kost al gauw drie maanden voorbereidingstijd en zodoende denkt men dat de Atlantis pas ergens in februari volgend jaar z&#8217;n missie kan maken. Bron: Bad Astronomy. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] De Science Data Formatter De reparatiemissie van de Atlantis Space Shuttle, gepland voor vrijdag 10 oktober 2008, is uitgesteld tot minstens februari 2009. Oorzaak is dat de Hubble in safe mode is geraakt, een ander woord voor slaaptoestand.  Dat is op haar beurt weer veroorzaakt door een slecht functionerend onderdeel van de Hubble, de Control Unit/Science Data Formatter &#8211; Side A. Op de foto zie je dat onderdeel en het heeft na 18 jaar van trouwe dienst de geest gegeven. Het draait met name om die Science Data Formatter (SDF), die de waarneemgegevens van de Hubble keurig in pakketjes stopt, er een header aan geeft en ze dan met een snelheid van 1 Mb per seconde naar de Aarde stuurt. Geen SDF, dan ook geen data naar de Aarde, simpel. Nou is er één hoop en dat is Side B. Yep, er is van dat hele instrument ook een Side B, een reserveonderdeel. Vóór de lancering in 1990 in de Hubble geplaatst en daarna nooit meer aangeraakt. Maar activeren van Side B is helaas niet een kwestie van een knop genaamd Side B indrukken, want daar komt veel bij kijken. Vijf andere modules die gegevens van Hubble verwerken moeten naar hùn Side B worden overgezet. Dat schijnt allemaal vanaf Aarde te kunnen worden geregeld, maar het is tijdrovend. Als de Side A &gt; Side B overgang goed gaat zou Hubble weer z&#8217;n gegevens naar aarde kunnen sturen. Maar dan heb je de situatie dat één reserveonderdeel essentiëel wordt en da&#8217;s ook niet wenselijk. NASA wil daarom sowieso een geheel nieuwe SDF plus control unit naar de Hubble brengen. Dat kost al gauw drie maanden voorbereidingstijd en zodoende denkt men dat de Atlantis pas ergens in februari volgend jaar z&#8217;n missie kan maken. Bron: Bad Astronomy. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shoeshine Boy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122061</link>
		<dc:creator>Shoeshine Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does NASA keep spare Hubble &quot;Science Instrument Command and Data Handling System&quot; units laying around?  If they weren&#039;t planning on replacing it, they I doubt they have one tested and ready to put in the cargo hold of the shuttle.  Did they go digging through the closet and find one in a dusty cardboard box? :)

BTW: I hope this isn&#039;t the beginning of a larger string of failures for the aging Hubble.  If another important system fails while they are preparing the SICDHS, they may decide to simply give up on the thing and abandon the repair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does NASA keep spare Hubble &#8220;Science Instrument Command and Data Handling System&#8221; units laying around?  If they weren&#8217;t planning on replacing it, they I doubt they have one tested and ready to put in the cargo hold of the shuttle.  Did they go digging through the closet and find one in a dusty cardboard box? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW: I hope this isn&#8217;t the beginning of a larger string of failures for the aging Hubble.  If another important system fails while they are preparing the SICDHS, they may decide to simply give up on the thing and abandon the repair.</p>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122050</link>
		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 12:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,  I hear ya.  I was still in grad school and working on an instrument team when HST went up and we found out about spherical aberration... the mood on our team was somber for weeks...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,  I hear ya.  I was still in grad school and working on an instrument team when HST went up and we found out about spherical aberration&#8230; the mood on our team was somber for weeks&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Samsam</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122044</link>
		<dc:creator>Samsam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 11:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a back-up system is an exact copy of the primary, why don&#039;t they periodically switch between systems? I suppose the switch-over itself could be a point of failure, but it still seems to make sense to exercise as much of the system as possible so your backup doesn&#039;t silently die undetected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a back-up system is an exact copy of the primary, why don&#8217;t they periodically switch between systems? I suppose the switch-over itself could be a point of failure, but it still seems to make sense to exercise as much of the system as possible so your backup doesn&#8217;t silently die undetected.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Faulkner</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122027</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Faulkner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 09:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say Phil - What&#039;s the status of the NICMOS equipment.  I heard a few weeks ago that it went down too due to suspected cooling line problems.  Has NASA updated taht information?

(Thanks for monitoring this)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say Phil &#8211; What&#8217;s the status of the NICMOS equipment.  I heard a few weeks ago that it went down too due to suspected cooling line problems.  Has NASA updated taht information?</p>
<p>(Thanks for monitoring this)</p>
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		<title>By: JaVer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122023</link>
		<dc:creator>JaVer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the hardware to test and validate, and people with knowledge of the SICHDS systems, still available? I can imagine that they aged a bit too... so yet another big task ahead of the &quot;youngsters&quot; at NASA.
Hope all works out fine and we can still enjoy the great sience of the HST</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the hardware to test and validate, and people with knowledge of the SICHDS systems, still available? I can imagine that they aged a bit too&#8230; so yet another big task ahead of the &#8220;youngsters&#8221; at NASA.<br />
Hope all works out fine and we can still enjoy the great sience of the HST</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-122018</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the PI on 2 cycle 17 proposals, I was rather bummed when I got off the plane this afternoon to the news.  Thanks for pointing out the silver lining, especially the point about it failing before SM4 as opposed to after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the PI on 2 cycle 17 proposals, I was rather bummed when I got off the plane this afternoon to the news.  Thanks for pointing out the silver lining, especially the point about it failing before SM4 as opposed to after.</p>
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		<title>By: madge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-121997</link>
		<dc:creator>madge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 05:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you say, at least this happened BEFORE the servicing mission. Everything still crossed. Hang on Hubble, we&#039;re on our way.
:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you say, at least this happened BEFORE the servicing mission. Everything still crossed. Hang on Hubble, we&#8217;re on our way.<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bigfoot</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-121994</link>
		<dc:creator>Bigfoot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What, you mean that Hubble is not constant?!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What, you mean that Hubble is not constant?!!</p>
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		<title>By: rayceeya</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-121990</link>
		<dc:creator>rayceeya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to admire any piece of technology that survives 18 years of hard radiation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to admire any piece of technology that survives 18 years of hard radiation.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-121988</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For anyone interested there are 5 high-resolution spherical panoramas of the Hubble flight hardware in the clean room at KSC here: http://i-ota.net.  More pics and pans of the STS-125 mission here: http://nasatech.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone interested there are 5 high-resolution spherical panoramas of the Hubble flight hardware in the clean room at KSC here: <a href="http://i-ota.net" rel="nofollow">http://i-ota.net</a>.  More pics and pans of the STS-125 mission here: <a href="http://nasatech.net" rel="nofollow">http://nasatech.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fauxnetikz</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-121983</link>
		<dc:creator>Fauxnetikz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree that it&#039;s great that this just happened before the mission, I&#039;m also kind of bummed!

Let me explain.  I&#039;ve lived in Florida for about the last 6 years.  I&#039;ve never gone to a launch, even though I&#039;ve been very interested in the space program.  Last December I moved to California, and started reading about how STS is going out in 2010.  Unfortunately, things didn&#039;t work out in CA, and I had to move back here.  As soon as I found out I was coming back, I decided to go see a launch.  I chose STS-125 as it was the next one.  I&#039;ve been organizing for time off of work, my brother, and a few friends from out-of-state so we could go see it.  I&#039;ve already had to change the whole plan twice, and now this!

I suppose we&#039;ll go watch STS-126, but the wait is killing me!

Thanks for the in-depth, Phil.  Always a pleasure :-)

Daily BABlogee
-Fauxnetikz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree that it&#8217;s great that this just happened before the mission, I&#8217;m also kind of bummed!</p>
<p>Let me explain.  I&#8217;ve lived in Florida for about the last 6 years.  I&#8217;ve never gone to a launch, even though I&#8217;ve been very interested in the space program.  Last December I moved to California, and started reading about how STS is going out in 2010.  Unfortunately, things didn&#8217;t work out in CA, and I had to move back here.  As soon as I found out I was coming back, I decided to go see a launch.  I chose STS-125 as it was the next one.  I&#8217;ve been organizing for time off of work, my brother, and a few friends from out-of-state so we could go see it.  I&#8217;ve already had to change the whole plan twice, and now this!</p>
<p>I suppose we&#8217;ll go watch STS-126, but the wait is killing me!</p>
<p>Thanks for the in-depth, Phil.  Always a pleasure <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Daily BABlogee<br />
-Fauxnetikz</p>
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		<title>By: John Baxter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/09/29/hubble-update/comment-page-1/#comment-121980</link>
		<dc:creator>John Baxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Phil.  NASA deserved a big piece of good luck, and the timing of this problem certainly qualifies.

Are Hubble&#039;s procedure manuals on paper, microfiche, etc, or are they on computer?  18 years plus the pre-launch period is a long time.  Fiche seems a likely answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Phil.  NASA deserved a big piece of good luck, and the timing of this problem certainly qualifies.</p>
<p>Are Hubble&#8217;s procedure manuals on paper, microfiche, etc, or are they on computer?  18 years plus the pre-launch period is a long time.  Fiche seems a likely answer.</p>
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