Comments on: Did the Chinese fake their space walk? http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Sun, 08 Nov 2009 22:36:06 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Jeffoid http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/comment-page-2/#comment-204553 Jeffoid Fri, 07 Aug 2009 17:40:11 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/#comment-204553 The bubbles are being pushed away from current from the water fans and also the video is cranked up to conter the underwater effects. I watched all the videos that disproves that china did the space walk and they make alot of sense. Those who disbelieve this can't believe the facts because they are chinese nationalists and have too much pride and believe the things that would make them more popular... like how a girl puts make-up and stuffs their bra to make them look more pretty. They can never be a part of NASA... they are guilty of stealing engine plans for the Shuttles... so all they have to be proud of is an underwater aquarium wet ride for all of the world to see. I stand with all those who know that china had faked their launch and space walk. They can only fathom to what United States, Russa, Britan, and the other contries had worked on jointly in the NASA project. The bubbles are being pushed away from current from the water fans and also the video is cranked up to conter the underwater effects. I watched all the videos that disproves that china did the space walk and they make alot of sense. Those who disbelieve this can’t believe the facts because they are chinese nationalists and have too much pride and believe the things that would make them more popular… like how a girl puts make-up and stuffs their bra to make them look more pretty.

They can never be a part of NASA… they are guilty of stealing engine plans for the Shuttles… so all they have to be proud of is an underwater aquarium wet ride for all of the world to see. I stand with all those who know that china had faked their launch and space walk. They can only fathom to what United States, Russa, Britan, and the other contries had worked on jointly in the NASA project.

]]> By: El paseo espacial chino... http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/comment-page-2/#comment-202978 El paseo espacial chino... Sat, 01 Aug 2009 07:35:32 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/#comment-202978 [...] Otro punto de vista... Did the Chinese fake their space walk? | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine [...] [...] Otro punto de vista… Did the Chinese fake their space walk? | Bad Astronomy | Discover Magazine [...]

]]> By: ZERO http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/comment-page-2/#comment-198405 ZERO Fri, 10 Jul 2009 19:44:12 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/#comment-198405 <strong> If they were air bubbles, not only would they be rising too fast but they would only rise in one direction not multiple like you see in the video! And, as you mentioned the movement of the cosmonauts hand and the hooks look like they're moving in microgravity! If they were air bubbles, not only would they be rising too fast but they would only rise in one direction not multiple like you see in the video! And, as you mentioned the movement of the cosmonauts hand and the hooks look like they’re moving in microgravity!

]]> By: Definitely Fake http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/comment-page-2/#comment-194201 Definitely Fake Tue, 23 Jun 2009 19:15:22 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/#comment-194201 Like most educated consumers, I know that China can fake just about anything. They even faked part of the Bejing Olympics shots with animation. They have a history of faking things, so I say it was faked based on past precedence. Like most educated consumers, I know that China can fake just about anything. They even faked part of the Bejing Olympics shots with animation. They have a history of faking things, so I say it was faked based on past precedence.

]]> By: anyKey http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/comment-page-2/#comment-183660 anyKey Thu, 14 May 2009 21:20:08 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/#comment-183660 I suppose you didn't watch the whole video though... This "bubble" you mention, may not be a bubble itself, but after the astronaut leaves the cockpit, there are loads of bubbles. You cannot explain them in another way than bubbles, because they are moving straight up and going right next to the astronaut. You are Chinese? If yes, then I understand you. You live in a totalitarism, just like me 20 years ago and you have to claim what government claims, otherwise you'll go to jail. Smiling from ear to ear ever if there are thousands of people starving... Anyway, your "essay" is fake just like Chinese space walk. I suppose you didn’t watch the whole video though… This “bubble” you mention, may not be a bubble itself, but after the astronaut leaves the cockpit, there are loads of bubbles. You cannot explain them in another way than bubbles, because they are moving straight up and going right next to the astronaut.

You are Chinese? If yes, then I understand you. You live in a totalitarism, just like me 20 years ago and you have to claim what government claims, otherwise you’ll go to jail. Smiling from ear to ear ever if there are thousands of people starving… Anyway, your “essay” is fake just like Chinese space walk.

]]> By: Mahhn http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/comment-page-2/#comment-177165 Mahhn Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:03:43 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/#comment-177165 Governments don't like to people, ever. (sarcasm intended) Governments don’t like to people, ever. (sarcasm intended)

]]> By: James http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/comment-page-2/#comment-177085 James Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:22:25 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/08/did-the-chinese-fake-their-space-walk/#comment-177085 It's inspiring and yet sad to see this much debate on this topic. No, I do not have a "definitive" answer to this claim. But I do know that it's impossible for anyone else to. It's 2009. The speed of light is no longer the universal speed limit and microbiology from Mars is old news. No one in an authoritative position is disputing this information now. But more to the point, with today's technological and diplomatic standards, you can't prove or disprove this. The End. Personally, I hold the opinion that their spacewalk is faked. The China-provided "proof" -- meaning what they claim to pass any test of scrutiny -- combined with their preceding reputation of self-aggrandizing, points beyond almost any doubt that they faked it. Their pre-launch release of supposed correspondence is really all the proof that's needed. But the fact is, once again, we've reached a point where anyone could claim what they've claimed. The only conclusive way to disprove a digitally-created claim of anything is diplomacy. We owe China. We owe them big. Look it up. So I imagine NASA knows very well that China faked this, but has no intention of instigating malcontent with a country that arguably controls our currency's value. (We owe them trillions. They've technically paid for the war on terror.) Adobe Creative Suite 3 is on my laptop, and with that suite and a decent video recorder, I could quite possible re-create every last visual detail everyone here has discussed. Given that China released much of the controversial footage, I again say that their reputation likely caused a hastiness, one that's caused their wholly-illegitimate claims to be swept under an economic rug. No, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. This post is one of probably less than five I've ever composed. But let's fess up to the fact that diplomatic prudence trumps veracity. It's in no government's best interest to formally cry at present, especially not with China. We have our own spacial intentions anyway; we can kill them with kindness -- or simply continued one-upping. But regardless, this will never be concluded definitively. The global system is too convoluted for any of us to think we have the total grasp. These days, we're flirting with technological infinity. China may very well have faked it -- which more than enough evidence shows that they did -- but when you think about everything else we raise an eyebrow to in the government's direction, and more importantly why it's in officials' best interest to leave it be, there's just no way the truth will ever be ascertained. Take it easy, but take it. It’s inspiring and yet sad to see this much debate on this topic.
No, I do not have a “definitive” answer to this claim. But I do know that it’s impossible for anyone else to.
It’s 2009. The speed of light is no longer the universal speed limit and microbiology from Mars is old news. No one in an authoritative position is disputing this information now.
But more to the point, with today’s technological and diplomatic standards, you can’t prove or disprove this. The End.
Personally, I hold the opinion that their spacewalk is faked. The China-provided “proof” — meaning what they claim to pass any test of scrutiny — combined with their preceding reputation of self-aggrandizing, points beyond almost any doubt that they faked it.
Their pre-launch release of supposed correspondence is really all the proof that’s needed.
But the fact is, once again, we’ve reached a point where anyone could claim what they’ve claimed. The only conclusive way to disprove a digitally-created claim of anything is diplomacy.
We owe China. We owe them big. Look it up. So I imagine NASA knows very well that China faked this, but has no intention of instigating malcontent with a country that arguably controls our currency’s value. (We owe them trillions. They’ve technically paid for the war on terror.)
Adobe Creative Suite 3 is on my laptop, and with that suite and a decent video recorder, I could quite possible re-create every last visual detail everyone here has discussed.
Given that China released much of the controversial footage, I again say that their reputation likely caused a hastiness, one that’s caused their wholly-illegitimate claims to be swept under an economic rug.
No, I’m not a conspiracy theorist. This post is one of probably less than five I’ve ever composed.
But let’s fess up to the fact that diplomatic prudence trumps veracity.
It’s in no government’s best interest to formally cry at present, especially not with China. We have our own spacial intentions anyway; we can kill them with kindness — or simply continued one-upping.
But regardless, this will never be concluded definitively. The global system is too convoluted for any of us to think we have the total grasp.
These days, we’re flirting with technological infinity.
China may very well have faked it — which more than enough evidence shows that they did — but when you think about everything else we raise an eyebrow to in the government’s direction, and more importantly why it’s in officials’ best interest to leave it be, there’s just no way the truth will ever be ascertained.
Take it easy, but take it.

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