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	<title>Comments on: Kentucky Space</title>
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		<title>By: MoMan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/09/kentucky-space/comment-page-1/#comment-125161</link>
		<dc:creator>MoMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 05:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All hail Story Musgrave, astronaut who called Lexington home! 

KENTUCKY VASECTOMY (I lived there 40 years so I know all the jokes. I think):

Wife sez, &quot;Jeb, ten kids is nuff. You go get one of them vazzletomees.&quot; 

Jeb sees doctor #1 who sez to light an M-80, put it in a can and count to twenty. That sounds crazy so Jeb goes to see doctor #2 who sez the same thing, adding &quot;There ain&#039;t no need to pay for sich a simple thing.&quot;

So old Jeb lights the firecracker and puts it in the can and starts to count to twenty. Five on the first hand, five on the other hand, but now he needs his toes, so he has to put the can between his legs to keep counting. And there you have a Kentucky vasectomy. Works everytime. 
[This joke makes people laugh so hard they cry if you tell it well, pretending to hold the can, count and then place the can in your crotch.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All hail Story Musgrave, astronaut who called Lexington home! </p>
<p>KENTUCKY VASECTOMY (I lived there 40 years so I know all the jokes. I think):</p>
<p>Wife sez, &#8220;Jeb, ten kids is nuff. You go get one of them vazzletomees.&#8221; </p>
<p>Jeb sees doctor #1 who sez to light an M-80, put it in a can and count to twenty. That sounds crazy so Jeb goes to see doctor #2 who sez the same thing, adding &#8220;There ain&#8217;t no need to pay for sich a simple thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>So old Jeb lights the firecracker and puts it in the can and starts to count to twenty. Five on the first hand, five on the other hand, but now he needs his toes, so he has to put the can between his legs to keep counting. And there you have a Kentucky vasectomy. Works everytime.<br />
[This joke makes people laugh so hard they cry if you tell it well, pretending to hold the can, count and then place the can in your crotch.]</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Cellania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miss Cellania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, it&#039;s been about ten years since our basketball was all that great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, it&#8217;s been about ten years since our basketball was all that great.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss Cellania</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/09/kentucky-space/comment-page-1/#comment-125054</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss Cellania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 11:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to gambling on horse races, we have Bourbon, methamphetamine, world-class marijuana, cheap cigarettes, and a really salty secret fried chicken recipe. And mountaintop removal.

Kentucky: global leader in things that are bad for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to gambling on horse races, we have Bourbon, methamphetamine, world-class marijuana, cheap cigarettes, and a really salty secret fried chicken recipe. And mountaintop removal.</p>
<p>Kentucky: global leader in things that are bad for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 22:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ray:
 TANSTAAFL is a direct reflection of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which IS a law because it accurately describes the way the universe works, ie, There Ain&#039;t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch,,,which merely means you can&#039;t get more out of the system(car engine, alternator, water, etc) than you put into it in the first darn place. It&#039;s what prevents us from getting better milage from H2 injected into the engine, when it&#039;s generated by the very gasoline we use to move the car.


You don&#039;t need to study every specific application in order to know it won&#039;t get you furthur down the road if you understand that it takes energy from the alternator, which is generated from the engine, which derives ITS energy from the gasoline, to break the energy bonds of the water, to retrieve the H2, to put back in the engine. At every step, we lose energy in the form of heat, so there is NO WAY to get more out of the system than we had there to begin with(in the form of the energy content of the gasoline). In a perfect system (one in which there are NO energy conversion losses) we could theoretically get AS much out as we put in, but there would still be no gain.

It (H2) MIGHT improve octane level, but higher octane is  not more energy/gal. It just improves the smooth burn, ie, less knocking under load.

Having said all that, if you generate your H2 from a solar cell, store it in a tank and THEN add it to your engine, then yes, you could go furthur, but that&#039;s introducing extra energy from the sun, stored in the H2.

Anyone who claims to be able to get more out of a closed system than they put in it in the first place is scamming you,,,that would be perpetual motion and I think most people understand that really IS impossible,,,

TANSTAAFL: It&#039;&#039;s a law of nature and even though it sucks, that&#039;s what we have to work with.

Peace,

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ray:<br />
 TANSTAAFL is a direct reflection of the Second Law of Thermodynamics, which IS a law because it accurately describes the way the universe works, ie, There Ain&#8217;t No Such Thing As A Free Lunch,,,which merely means you can&#8217;t get more out of the system(car engine, alternator, water, etc) than you put into it in the first darn place. It&#8217;s what prevents us from getting better milage from H2 injected into the engine, when it&#8217;s generated by the very gasoline we use to move the car.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need to study every specific application in order to know it won&#8217;t get you furthur down the road if you understand that it takes energy from the alternator, which is generated from the engine, which derives ITS energy from the gasoline, to break the energy bonds of the water, to retrieve the H2, to put back in the engine. At every step, we lose energy in the form of heat, so there is NO WAY to get more out of the system than we had there to begin with(in the form of the energy content of the gasoline). In a perfect system (one in which there are NO energy conversion losses) we could theoretically get AS much out as we put in, but there would still be no gain.</p>
<p>It (H2) MIGHT improve octane level, but higher octane is  not more energy/gal. It just improves the smooth burn, ie, less knocking under load.</p>
<p>Having said all that, if you generate your H2 from a solar cell, store it in a tank and THEN add it to your engine, then yes, you could go furthur, but that&#8217;s introducing extra energy from the sun, stored in the H2.</p>
<p>Anyone who claims to be able to get more out of a closed system than they put in it in the first place is scamming you,,,that would be perpetual motion and I think most people understand that really IS impossible,,,</p>
<p>TANSTAAFL: It&#8217;&#8217;s a law of nature and even though it sucks, that&#8217;s what we have to work with.</p>
<p>Peace,</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: themadlolscientist</title>
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		<dc:creator>themadlolscientist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2008 03:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ROFLMAO @ KY residency app!

I lived in Louavul 1979-1985. Very Strange Planet in a lot of ways, but it had an excellent classical music station, and the orchestra there was terrific. For many years it was one of the biggest names in commissioning and recording new music (and even had its own label for quite a few years). While we were there, they moved to a great new home at the Kentucky Center for the Arts. Fabulous concert hall, theater, and several smaller performance halls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ROFLMAO @ KY residency app!</p>
<p>I lived in Louavul 1979-1985. Very Strange Planet in a lot of ways, but it had an excellent classical music station, and the orchestra there was terrific. For many years it was one of the biggest names in commissioning and recording new music (and even had its own label for quite a few years). While we were there, they moved to a great new home at the Kentucky Center for the Arts. Fabulous concert hall, theater, and several smaller performance halls.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary,

Do you have any studies saying that the hydrogen injection thing doesn&#039;t work as advertised?  In other words, how do you &quot;know&quot; it doesn&#039;t do anything?

NOTE:  I&#039;m not claiming anything about the hydrogen thing, just asking for proof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary,</p>
<p>Do you have any studies saying that the hydrogen injection thing doesn&#8217;t work as advertised?  In other words, how do you &#8220;know&#8221; it doesn&#8217;t do anything?</p>
<p>NOTE:  I&#8217;m not claiming anything about the hydrogen thing, just asking for proof.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fun fact: most Kentucky bluegrass isn&#039;t from Kentucky at all. There&#039;s tons of the stuff in the northwest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun fact: most Kentucky bluegrass isn&#8217;t from Kentucky at all. There&#8217;s tons of the stuff in the northwest.</p>
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