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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/15/make-mccain-see-stars/comment-page-2/#comment-126332</link>
		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ shane

Heh! :-)</description>
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<p>Heh! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/15/make-mccain-see-stars/comment-page-2/#comment-126329</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
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&quot;Basically this election (most of them in the last 25 years) come down to capitalism vs socialism/communism regardless of the actual candidates.&quot;

You have got to be kidding me.. Is that a serious comment? I&#039;m sick of the idiotic &quot;free-market-at-all-cost&quot; ideologues who for some reason don&#039;t believe a modern democratic country should provide services for the people. You think universal health insurance (with capitalist hospitals, insurance companies, physicians, surgeons, clinic, etc) is &#039;socialism&#039;?  Do you realize that every single capitalist country in the WORLD either has or is in the process of building a universal health care system. Want to know why? Because private health insurance without regulation just ensures that everyone who is not in the elite 1% of society can&#039;t afford decent coverage and allows insurance companies to screw everyone. That is the mcCain plan. It&#039;s worse than the status quo!

America is not Europe. Americans don&#039;t want a completely overbearing government that intrudes in all their affairs. I think we can all agree on that. No one is suggesting that average folks should get completely free medical coverage, nor should people who smoke, drink, and overeat not have to pay more for care. We don&#039;t give citizens a large monthly stipend in cash for having kids. On the other hand, although there is certainly a lot of money spent on certain social programs like medicare/medicaid/social security much of it is wasted and many, MANY people truly in need do NOT get the help that they need. I&#039;m not saying the current system is perfect or that it shouldn&#039;t be overhauled and reformed to eliminate fraud and abuse, but we have got to start taking care of people who need assistance. Average hard-working folks deserve assistance when they are injured on the job and can&#039;t work. They shouldn&#039;t lose their homes and be forced in bankruptcy because of enormous medical bills. Homelessness shouldn&#039;t exist in our society --- there is not enough resources going to state mental health care. In this modern world, healthcare should be seen as a RIGHT, not a privelege only for the aristrocracy.

The &quot;free market&quot; also fails in other areas. a countries transporation infrastructure is certainly one. Do any of these &quot;free market&quot; types refute the incredible economical gains seen after the building of the interstate highway system? Was that &quot;socialism&quot;?  I think broadband network infrastructure needs to be seen in the same light. The citizens need to own the &quot;last mile&quot; to their homes. I think the vast majority of people would agree that a relatively small federal subsidy into building out a nationwide fiber optic network has unrivaled potential in creating future wealth and economic growth.  Another issue would be renewable energy technology. Is it &quot;socialist&quot; for the government to invest in new high-tech energy infrastructure to lead our country to energy independence?? Is it socialist to have a concern for and wish to preserve our natural environment.

I&#039;m a somewhat young person still... I&#039;ve only seen three presidents in office. And none of them have had the right mentality that the future of America is going to require. We need a 21st century FDR or Kennedy who has faith in the American dream and actually cares about making our country a better place for all of our citizens. Someone who values a healthy society, values the constitution, values compassion, values tolerance, and actually wakes up each morning with the desire for a better world.</description>
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<p>&#8220;Basically this election (most of them in the last 25 years) come down to capitalism vs socialism/communism regardless of the actual candidates.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have got to be kidding me.. Is that a serious comment? I&#8217;m sick of the idiotic &#8220;free-market-at-all-cost&#8221; ideologues who for some reason don&#8217;t believe a modern democratic country should provide services for the people. You think universal health insurance (with capitalist hospitals, insurance companies, physicians, surgeons, clinic, etc) is &#8217;socialism&#8217;?  Do you realize that every single capitalist country in the WORLD either has or is in the process of building a universal health care system. Want to know why? Because private health insurance without regulation just ensures that everyone who is not in the elite 1% of society can&#8217;t afford decent coverage and allows insurance companies to screw everyone. That is the mcCain plan. It&#8217;s worse than the status quo!</p>
<p>America is not Europe. Americans don&#8217;t want a completely overbearing government that intrudes in all their affairs. I think we can all agree on that. No one is suggesting that average folks should get completely free medical coverage, nor should people who smoke, drink, and overeat not have to pay more for care. We don&#8217;t give citizens a large monthly stipend in cash for having kids. On the other hand, although there is certainly a lot of money spent on certain social programs like medicare/medicaid/social security much of it is wasted and many, MANY people truly in need do NOT get the help that they need. I&#8217;m not saying the current system is perfect or that it shouldn&#8217;t be overhauled and reformed to eliminate fraud and abuse, but we have got to start taking care of people who need assistance. Average hard-working folks deserve assistance when they are injured on the job and can&#8217;t work. They shouldn&#8217;t lose their homes and be forced in bankruptcy because of enormous medical bills. Homelessness shouldn&#8217;t exist in our society &#8212; there is not enough resources going to state mental health care. In this modern world, healthcare should be seen as a RIGHT, not a privelege only for the aristrocracy.</p>
<p>The &#8220;free market&#8221; also fails in other areas. a countries transporation infrastructure is certainly one. Do any of these &#8220;free market&#8221; types refute the incredible economical gains seen after the building of the interstate highway system? Was that &#8220;socialism&#8221;?  I think broadband network infrastructure needs to be seen in the same light. The citizens need to own the &#8220;last mile&#8221; to their homes. I think the vast majority of people would agree that a relatively small federal subsidy into building out a nationwide fiber optic network has unrivaled potential in creating future wealth and economic growth.  Another issue would be renewable energy technology. Is it &#8220;socialist&#8221; for the government to invest in new high-tech energy infrastructure to lead our country to energy independence?? Is it socialist to have a concern for and wish to preserve our natural environment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a somewhat young person still&#8230; I&#8217;ve only seen three presidents in office. And none of them have had the right mentality that the future of America is going to require. We need a 21st century FDR or Kennedy who has faith in the American dream and actually cares about making our country a better place for all of our citizens. Someone who values a healthy society, values the constitution, values compassion, values tolerance, and actually wakes up each morning with the desire for a better world.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/15/make-mccain-see-stars/comment-page-2/#comment-126328</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Basically this election (most of them in the last 25 years) come down to capitalism vs socialism/communism regardless of the actual candidates.&quot;

You have got to be kidding me.. Is that a serious comment? I&#039;m of the idiotic &quot;free-market-at-all-cost&quot; ideologues who for some reason don&#039;t believe a modern democratic 

country should provide services for the people. You think universal health insurance (with capitalist hospitals, insurance companies, physicians, surgeons, clinic, etc) is 

&#039;socialism&#039;?  Do you realize that every single capitalist country in the WORLD either has or is in the process of building a universal health care system. Want to know why? Because 

private health insurance without regulation just ensures that everyone who is not in the elite 1% of society can&#039;t afford decent coverage and allows insurance companies to screw 

everyone. That is the mcCain plan. It&#039;s worse than the status quo!

America is not Europe. Americans don&#039;t want a completely overbearing government that intrudes in all their affairs. I think we can all agree on that. No one is suggesting that 

average folks should get completely free medical coverage, nor should people who smoke, drink, and overeat not have to pay more for care. We don&#039;t give citizens a large 

monthly stipend in cash for having kids. On the other hand, although there is certainly a lot of money spent on certain social programs like medicare/medicaid/social security 

much of it is wasted and many, MANY people truly in need do NOT get the help that they need. I&#039;m not saying the current system is perfect or that it shouldn&#039;t be overhauled and 

reformed to eliminate fraud and abuse, but we have got to start taking care of people who need assistance. Average hard-working folks deserve assistance when they are 

injured on the job and can&#039;t work. They shouldn&#039;t lose their homes and be forced in bankruptcy because of enormous medical bills. Homelessness shouldn&#039;t exist in our society 

--- there is not enough resources going to state mental health care. In this modern world, healthcare should be seen as a RIGHT, not a privelege only for the aristrocracy.

The &quot;free market&quot; also fails in other areas. a countries transporation infrastructure is certainly one. Do any of these &quot;free market&quot; types refute the incredible economical gains 

seen after the building of the interstate highway system? Was that &quot;socialism&quot;?  I think broadband network infrastructure needs to be seen in the same light. The citizens need to 

own the &quot;last mile&quot; to their homes. I think the vast majority of people would agree that a relatively small federal subsidy into building out a nationwide fiber optic network has 

unrivaled potential in creating future wealth and economic growth.  Another issue would be renewable energy technology. Is it &quot;socialist&quot; for the government to invest in new 

high-tech energy infrastructure to lead our country to energy independence?? Is it socialist to have a concern for and wish to preserve our natural environment.

I&#039;m a somewhat young person still... I&#039;ve only seen three presidents in office. And none of them have had the right mentality that the future of America is going to require. We need a 21st century FDR or Kennedy who has faith in the American dream and actually cares about making our country a better place for all of our citizens. Someone who values a healthy society, values the constitution, values compassion, values tolerance, and actually wakes up each morning with the desire for a better world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Basically this election (most of them in the last 25 years) come down to capitalism vs socialism/communism regardless of the actual candidates.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have got to be kidding me.. Is that a serious comment? I&#8217;m of the idiotic &#8220;free-market-at-all-cost&#8221; ideologues who for some reason don&#8217;t believe a modern democratic </p>
<p>country should provide services for the people. You think universal health insurance (with capitalist hospitals, insurance companies, physicians, surgeons, clinic, etc) is </p>
<p>&#8217;socialism&#8217;?  Do you realize that every single capitalist country in the WORLD either has or is in the process of building a universal health care system. Want to know why? Because </p>
<p>private health insurance without regulation just ensures that everyone who is not in the elite 1% of society can&#8217;t afford decent coverage and allows insurance companies to screw </p>
<p>everyone. That is the mcCain plan. It&#8217;s worse than the status quo!</p>
<p>America is not Europe. Americans don&#8217;t want a completely overbearing government that intrudes in all their affairs. I think we can all agree on that. No one is suggesting that </p>
<p>average folks should get completely free medical coverage, nor should people who smoke, drink, and overeat not have to pay more for care. We don&#8217;t give citizens a large </p>
<p>monthly stipend in cash for having kids. On the other hand, although there is certainly a lot of money spent on certain social programs like medicare/medicaid/social security </p>
<p>much of it is wasted and many, MANY people truly in need do NOT get the help that they need. I&#8217;m not saying the current system is perfect or that it shouldn&#8217;t be overhauled and </p>
<p>reformed to eliminate fraud and abuse, but we have got to start taking care of people who need assistance. Average hard-working folks deserve assistance when they are </p>
<p>injured on the job and can&#8217;t work. They shouldn&#8217;t lose their homes and be forced in bankruptcy because of enormous medical bills. Homelessness shouldn&#8217;t exist in our society </p>
<p>&#8212; there is not enough resources going to state mental health care. In this modern world, healthcare should be seen as a RIGHT, not a privelege only for the aristrocracy.</p>
<p>The &#8220;free market&#8221; also fails in other areas. a countries transporation infrastructure is certainly one. Do any of these &#8220;free market&#8221; types refute the incredible economical gains </p>
<p>seen after the building of the interstate highway system? Was that &#8220;socialism&#8221;?  I think broadband network infrastructure needs to be seen in the same light. The citizens need to </p>
<p>own the &#8220;last mile&#8221; to their homes. I think the vast majority of people would agree that a relatively small federal subsidy into building out a nationwide fiber optic network has </p>
<p>unrivaled potential in creating future wealth and economic growth.  Another issue would be renewable energy technology. Is it &#8220;socialist&#8221; for the government to invest in new </p>
<p>high-tech energy infrastructure to lead our country to energy independence?? Is it socialist to have a concern for and wish to preserve our natural environment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a somewhat young person still&#8230; I&#8217;ve only seen three presidents in office. And none of them have had the right mentality that the future of America is going to require. We need a 21st century FDR or Kennedy who has faith in the American dream and actually cares about making our country a better place for all of our citizens. Someone who values a healthy society, values the constitution, values compassion, values tolerance, and actually wakes up each morning with the desire for a better world.</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/15/make-mccain-see-stars/comment-page-2/#comment-126321</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 06:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IVAN3MAN, &lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;*Crickets*&lt;/font&gt;

:roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IVAN3MAN, <font color="green">*Crickets*</font></p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/15/make-mccain-see-stars/comment-page-2/#comment-126312</link>
		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 05:32:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/15/make-mccain-see-stars/#comment-126312</guid>
		<description>*&lt;font color=&quot;green&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;Crickets&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/font&gt;*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*<font color="green"><b>Crickets</b></font>*</p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/15/make-mccain-see-stars/comment-page-2/#comment-126263</link>
		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 00:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Plait, don&#039;t they tell you anything at &quot;Hive Overmind&quot;? The roll-eyes smiley function is done like this: &quot;:&quot; &quot;roll&quot; &quot;:&quot; and voilá :roll:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Plait, don&#8217;t they tell you anything at &#8220;Hive Overmind&#8221;? The roll-eyes smiley function is done like this: &#8220;:&#8221; &#8220;roll&#8221; &#8220;:&#8221; and voilá <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Greg in Austin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/15/make-mccain-see-stars/comment-page-2/#comment-126238</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg in Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2008 22:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that didn&#039;t work.

:(

8&#124;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that didn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>8|</p>
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