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		<title>By: quasidog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/31/trick-or-treat-2/comment-page-1/#comment-133126</link>
		<dc:creator>quasidog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 08:49:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL ... funny you mention Guy Fawkes ..... he is my direct decendant (different last name) ... but I have a family tree made up where he is on it, round about the 1600&#039;s or so.  A benefit from my aunt being a leading member of a New Zealand genealogy society .  Beside some famous Scot from the 1300&#039;s he is the only famous person I know of in my family.  Sure he was a criminal but hey ... :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL &#8230; funny you mention Guy Fawkes &#8230;.. he is my direct decendant (different last name) &#8230; but I have a family tree made up where he is on it, round about the 1600&#8217;s or so.  A benefit from my aunt being a leading member of a New Zealand genealogy society .  Beside some famous Scot from the 1300&#8217;s he is the only famous person I know of in my family.  Sure he was a criminal but hey &#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/31/trick-or-treat-2/comment-page-1/#comment-130909</link>
		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 05:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF? This thread started off on a light-hearted note about a kiddies holiday, and now it has descended into a political rant! Gordon Bennett!</description>
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		<title>By: The Palestinean Ironist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/31/trick-or-treat-2/comment-page-1/#comment-130899</link>
		<dc:creator>The Palestinean Ironist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ StevoR :

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Odd holiday really - commemeorating the execution of Guy Fawkes who was a Catholic terrorist. With all the hype over Muslims these days its worth noting that Christianity -and Judiasim used terrorism as a political tactic long before the Muslims. Look up Sicarrii” and the original Zealots someday pppl. Funny how the so-called “War on Terror” totally overlooekd the IRA, ETA (Basque Separatists’s), the anti-choice “shoot a living Doctor to save unwanted embyroes”, US Lunatic anti-Govt Militia, even the Hindu Tamil Tigers who first invented suciicde bombings, etc .. isn’t it? (Rolls eyes) &lt;/i&gt; 

All too true. Gee I wonder why Muslims globally feel like they&#039;re being unfairly singled out eh? :-(

Moreover, you left out the fact that the very worst and most common form of terrorism is &lt;b&gt;state-sponsered terrorism &lt;/b&gt; - terrorism of governemnst against people. Theworst culprits inthis regard? Israel &amp; the USA. Afterall what was &quot;Shock &amp; Awe&quot; if not an attempt to terrorise an entire population -or for that matter the Cold War threat of Nuclear Holocaust? 

If Bush and the Neocons really wanted to stop terrorism as oppsoed to merely invade and conquer the Muslim world they would have sent their stealth bombers and guided missiles agaisnt their own Pentagon, White House and all those Wrong Wing NeoCon &#039;Israel uber alles&#039; (Israel over all - incl. US interests) think-tanks. 

A &#039;decapitation strike&#039; against Washington would&#039;ve done far more for global peace and stability than their state terrorism against poor old Iraq and Afghanistan. :-( 

Alternatively, if they&#039;d really wanted to fight &quot;terror&quot; (ie the emotion) they should&#039;ve bombed Stephen King or the next convention of Horror writers! ;-) 

I hope the next US President (Obama lets hope!) has the good sense to call off this whole WoT stupidity and admit to the world that the United States was wrong, wrong, wrong ever to be so flippin&#039; dumb in starting it. :-( 

Doing that will at least mean you&#039;ve stopped digging the current massive hole you&#039;re in any deeper and then the US can start to think about climbing out. Stopping the unquestioning, blind, peace-harming, downright near insane support, funding and arming of the fascist theocracy of Israel will also be a necessary first step here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ StevoR :</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Odd holiday really &#8211; commemeorating the execution of Guy Fawkes who was a Catholic terrorist. With all the hype over Muslims these days its worth noting that Christianity -and Judiasim used terrorism as a political tactic long before the Muslims. Look up Sicarrii” and the original Zealots someday pppl. Funny how the so-called “War on Terror” totally overlooekd the IRA, ETA (Basque Separatists’s), the anti-choice “shoot a living Doctor to save unwanted embyroes”, US Lunatic anti-Govt Militia, even the Hindu Tamil Tigers who first invented suciicde bombings, etc .. isn’t it? (Rolls eyes) </i> </p>
<p>All too true. Gee I wonder why Muslims globally feel like they&#8217;re being unfairly singled out eh? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Moreover, you left out the fact that the very worst and most common form of terrorism is <b>state-sponsered terrorism </b> &#8211; terrorism of governemnst against people. Theworst culprits inthis regard? Israel &#038; the USA. Afterall what was &#8220;Shock &#038; Awe&#8221; if not an attempt to terrorise an entire population -or for that matter the Cold War threat of Nuclear Holocaust? </p>
<p>If Bush and the Neocons really wanted to stop terrorism as oppsoed to merely invade and conquer the Muslim world they would have sent their stealth bombers and guided missiles agaisnt their own Pentagon, White House and all those Wrong Wing NeoCon &#8216;Israel uber alles&#8217; (Israel over all &#8211; incl. US interests) think-tanks. </p>
<p>A &#8216;decapitation strike&#8217; against Washington would&#8217;ve done far more for global peace and stability than their state terrorism against poor old Iraq and Afghanistan. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Alternatively, if they&#8217;d really wanted to fight &#8220;terror&#8221; (ie the emotion) they should&#8217;ve bombed Stephen King or the next convention of Horror writers! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I hope the next US President (Obama lets hope!) has the good sense to call off this whole WoT stupidity and admit to the world that the United States was wrong, wrong, wrong ever to be so flippin&#8217; dumb in starting it. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Doing that will at least mean you&#8217;ve stopped digging the current massive hole you&#8217;re in any deeper and then the US can start to think about climbing out. Stopping the unquestioning, blind, peace-harming, downright near insane support, funding and arming of the fascist theocracy of Israel will also be a necessary first step here.</p>
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		<title>By: The Palestinean Ironist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/31/trick-or-treat-2/comment-page-1/#comment-130896</link>
		<dc:creator>The Palestinean Ironist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ StevoR :

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Odd holiday really - commemeorating the execution of Guy Fawkes who was a Catholic terrorist. With all the hype over Muslims these days its worth noting that Christianity -and Judiasim used terrorism as a political tactic long before the Muslims. Look up Sicarrii” and the original Zealots someday pppl. Funny how the so-called “War on Terror” totally overlooekd the IRA, ETA (Basque Separatists’s), the anti-choice “shoot a living Doctor to save unwanted embyroes”, US Lunatic anti-Govt Militia, even the Hindu Tamil Tigers who first invented suciicde bombings, etc .. isn’t it? (Rolls eyes) &lt;/i&gt; 

All too true. Gee Iwonbder why Muslims globally feel like they&#039;re being unfairly singled out eh? :-(

Moreover, you left out the fact that the very worst and most common form of terrorism is state-sponsered terrorism - terrorism of governemnst against people freq</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ StevoR :</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Odd holiday really &#8211; commemeorating the execution of Guy Fawkes who was a Catholic terrorist. With all the hype over Muslims these days its worth noting that Christianity -and Judiasim used terrorism as a political tactic long before the Muslims. Look up Sicarrii” and the original Zealots someday pppl. Funny how the so-called “War on Terror” totally overlooekd the IRA, ETA (Basque Separatists’s), the anti-choice “shoot a living Doctor to save unwanted embyroes”, US Lunatic anti-Govt Militia, even the Hindu Tamil Tigers who first invented suciicde bombings, etc .. isn’t it? (Rolls eyes) </i> </p>
<p>All too true. Gee Iwonbder why Muslims globally feel like they&#8217;re being unfairly singled out eh? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Moreover, you left out the fact that the very worst and most common form of terrorism is state-sponsered terrorism &#8211; terrorism of governemnst against people freq</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/31/trick-or-treat-2/comment-page-1/#comment-130892</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a lighter note its also worth noting that Guy Fawkes was probably the only person to enter parliament with honest intentions as they say! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a lighter note its also worth noting that Guy Fawkes was probably the only person to enter parliament with honest intentions as they say! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/10/31/trick-or-treat-2/comment-page-1/#comment-130887</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pop Said on Nov 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 am : 

&lt;i&gt; &quot; Get revenge. Find and export some holiday event form Oz to USA. We’re an odd lot and enjoy celebrating. We in San Antonio, Texas have several “fiestas” each year. Some seem to have no more purpose than to cook Tex-Mex food, have some music and drink a little beer.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Hey whats&#039; wrong with that?! Sounds like enough of a purpose to me!

As for Guy fawkes day -it seems tobe disapperaing in Oz due tothe anti-firewworks laws but still .. 

&quot;Remember, remember the fifth of November!
Gunpowder, treason and plot!&quot; 

Odd holiday really - commemeorating the execution of Guy Fawkes who  was a Catholic terrorist. With all the hype over Muslims these days its worth noting that Christianity -and Judiasim used terrorism as a political tactic long before the Muslims. Look up Sicarrii&quot; and the original Zealots someday pppl. Funny how the so-called &quot;War on Terror&quot; totally overlooekd the IRA, ETA (Basque Separatists&#039;s), the anti-choice &quot;shoot a living Doctor to save unwanted embyroes&quot;, US Lunatic anti-Govt Militia, even the Hindu Tamil Tigers who first invented suciicde bombings, etc .. isn&#039;t it? (Rolls eyes)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pop Said on Nov 2nd, 2008 at 12:08 am : </p>
<p><i> &#8221; Get revenge. Find and export some holiday event form Oz to USA. We’re an odd lot and enjoy celebrating. We in San Antonio, Texas have several “fiestas” each year. Some seem to have no more purpose than to cook Tex-Mex food, have some music and drink a little beer.&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Hey whats&#8217; wrong with that?! Sounds like enough of a purpose to me!</p>
<p>As for Guy fawkes day -it seems tobe disapperaing in Oz due tothe anti-firewworks laws but still .. </p>
<p>&#8220;Remember, remember the fifth of November!<br />
Gunpowder, treason and plot!&#8221; </p>
<p>Odd holiday really &#8211; commemeorating the execution of Guy Fawkes who  was a Catholic terrorist. With all the hype over Muslims these days its worth noting that Christianity -and Judiasim used terrorism as a political tactic long before the Muslims. Look up Sicarrii&#8221; and the original Zealots someday pppl. Funny how the so-called &#8220;War on Terror&#8221; totally overlooekd the IRA, ETA (Basque Separatists&#8217;s), the anti-choice &#8220;shoot a living Doctor to save unwanted embyroes&#8221;, US Lunatic anti-Govt Militia, even the Hindu Tamil Tigers who first invented suciicde bombings, etc .. isn&#8217;t it? (Rolls eyes)</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah there&#039;s a lot more than sheep-shearing contests Up Over here in Oz &lt;i&gt; (its you guys that are really down under - just look at the latest Chandraayan image for proof! &lt;/i&gt; ;-) ) 

We&#039;ve also got :

Cricket - Test and one day &amp; 20 /20 - the Only True Sport as anything else &quot;.. just isn&#039;t cricket!&quot; as the saying goes! ;-) (&amp; yes that involves getting drunk watching it! ;-) )

The Todd river (bed) regatta at Alice Springs. (Definitely involves getting drunk!) 

The Mt Compass Cup - cow racing. (yes, you needa be drunk for that &#039;un too!)

The Tunarama fish tossing contest at Port Lincoln (Ditto!)

The Camel cup (yes there are camel jockeys in Oz too!)

The Bathurst 1000 V8 cars (Holden Commodores vs Ford Falcon&#039;s) motor race at Mt Panorama, NSW

The AFL or Australian Football League which is much better than any other football code. Well in our opinions anyway!) 

&amp; lots more ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah there&#8217;s a lot more than sheep-shearing contests Up Over here in Oz <i> (its you guys that are really down under &#8211; just look at the latest Chandraayan image for proof! </i> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve also got :</p>
<p>Cricket &#8211; Test and one day &#038; 20 /20 &#8211; the Only True Sport as anything else &#8220;.. just isn&#8217;t cricket!&#8221; as the saying goes! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  (&#038; yes that involves getting drunk watching it! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
<p>The Todd river (bed) regatta at Alice Springs. (Definitely involves getting drunk!) </p>
<p>The Mt Compass Cup &#8211; cow racing. (yes, you needa be drunk for that &#8216;un too!)</p>
<p>The Tunarama fish tossing contest at Port Lincoln (Ditto!)</p>
<p>The Camel cup (yes there are camel jockeys in Oz too!)</p>
<p>The Bathurst 1000 V8 cars (Holden Commodores vs Ford Falcon&#8217;s) motor race at Mt Panorama, NSW</p>
<p>The AFL or Australian Football League which is much better than any other football code. Well in our opinions anyway!) </p>
<p>&#038; lots more &#8230;</p>
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