Comments on: Doctor Who Christmas special trailer

By: Patrick

Patrick — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:33:38 +0000

The way the Cybusmen got portrayed, they didn’t have any teeth. Four Daleks were able to completely pwn them and the Doctor outsmarted them too easily. The Cybusmen are only superior in one respect – dying.

By: Reynold

Reynold — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 10:34:19 +0000

Well, given how sad this guy’s fetish for Doctor Who is, I thought I’d share some more pain:

http://community.livejournal.com/doctorwhy/2389.html

By: John Paradox

John Paradox — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:06:30 +0000

Slightly OT:
Torchwood reference in Knight Rider?

Watching the new Knight Rider (hey, I got up at 3A to work on reporting the election, needed some brainless viewing), one character “Billy” (played, ironically enough by the same actor who was President Roslin’s assistant on BSG) was asked who he was supposed to be (Halloween episode).. “Captain Jack Harkness”. Response by Bruce Davison: the time travelling bisexual?

J/P=?

By: IVAN3MAN

IVAN3MAN — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:40:50 +0000

Phil Plait's response to my enquiry:

*Crickets*

By: kroosing 2 '42' via '37'

kroosing 2 '42' via '37' — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:58:50 +0000

“The Return of the Cybermen”? Blimey! I’m just watching “The Invasion” aka “The Return of the Cybermen” from Season 6 episode 3 (#046) aired in November and December 1968.

In the introductory narrative retired actor Kevin Stoney says: “It had the working title ‘Return of the Cybermen’. The story was however later retitled ‘The Invasion’ to keep the appearance of the adversaries a surprise until halfway through the story.”
That made good sense! However, the commentator continues: “Unfortunately in some regions, the Radio Times published a picture of a Cyberman alongside the episode listing of part one. This somewhat spoiled the surprise appearance of the cybermen in part 4.” (www.recons.com/recons/lc19.htm)

So about spoilers, nothing new under the sun, really. Well, maybe the Cybermen appear very early in this Xmas Special, or the tabloids had already spotted them on the set.
Funny enough, from this old story parts 1 and 4 don’t exist anymore, like many of the Patrick Troughton episodes. What I am watching is a reconstructed version by Loose Cannon, the production company that reconstructs lost early Doctor Who episodes with in-production photos. In 2006, the missing parts 1 & 4 have been reproduced by the animation studio Cosgrove Hall, who previously created the webcast “Scream of the Shalka”.

Let’s enjoy the coming Xmas Special though. I’m really in suspense if it will be a rewrite of the old story or a completely new one…

… Well, no. The old one is a 20th century cold war story and introduction to UNIT, while the décor of the Xmas Special trailer looks more Victorian. Unless of course it is an ‘introductory’ decoy…

Spoiler for the Return of the Cybermen of 1968: UNIT had a working missile defence system!

By: IVAN3MAN

IVAN3MAN — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 22:50:09 +0000

BigBob:

Woop! Isn’t that Miranda Richardson of Black Adder fame? I repeat, Woop!

No, it is Dervla Kirwan of Ballykissangel and Goodnight Sweetheart fame.

Her web-site is: http://www.dervla-kirwan.co.uk/

By: Gavin Bollard

Gavin Bollard — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:19:28 +0000

I want to see the Great Intelligence (and possibly the Yeti) return. The posession scenes from the abominable snowmen sound great on audio… I wonder what they looked like.

By: Tolls

Tolls — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:25:34 +0000

Using the Cybermen is hardly overkill.
It’ll have been nigh on two and a half years since they last appeared.

By: MarkH

MarkH — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 14:48:53 +0000

Cybermen! Snore! Done to death! Move on to something else!

By: Some Canadian Skeptic

Some Canadian Skeptic — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:47:40 +0000

Ahhhh, the Cybermen. Or as I like to call them, “not the Borg”.

By: Gareth

Gareth — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:36:34 +0000

It’s even airing in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland! How’s that for a United Kingdom?

By: BigBob

BigBob — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 12:07:49 +0000

Woop! Isn’t that Miranda Richardson of Black Adder fame? I repeat, Woop!

By: OzAtheist

OzAtheist — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:04:47 +0000

I’m with you guys, how many freakin’ times does the the good Dr have to kill them Daleks?

By: Naomi

Naomi — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 08:27:53 +0000

Yeah – those who keep saying that the Cybermen are overused, no. We’ve seen the CybUSmen twice. We haven’t seen Mondasian Cybermen back yet, and I’m actually looking forward to when we do!

By: JSW

JSW — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:45:30 +0000

So are these real Cybermen or just another batch of Cybusmen?

By: Jimmy Joe

Jimmy Joe — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 06:34:52 +0000

I’d like to see the silurians personally. The cybermen were alright at first… so were the Daleks but… over kill.

By: Alex

Alex — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 02:09:17 +0000

Were those… Cybermonkeys?

By: John Keller

John Keller — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:57:17 +0000

It looks like there is at least one oringinal Cyberman (first and second doctor) at time 0.29

By: Bobalee

Bobalee — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 01:27:54 +0000

you’re all right, Daleks and Cybermen are fun, but they are used too much. Lets get back to the orginal 6 Doctors. We travel all over the universe, in the past or the future and kept running into new adventures. Doctors’ 9 & 10 have barely left the planet. It’s all about the Doctor’s relationship with women anymore.
Speaking about Rose, in the other dimension that she and the clone Doctor is in. What if Gallifrey still exists and a Doctor exists in that dmension?

By: Starviking

Starviking — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:04:12 +0000

The New Who needs some Ice Warriorsssss if you ask me!

By: KillerChihuahua

KillerChihuahua — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:24:58 +0000

Naked Bunny has nailed it – its not the new Cybermen, its not the Daleks, its that they have used them to freakin’ death already. What, no new ideas? No math planets? No places where physics is slightly different? No new nemeses? (how do you spell the plural of nemsis, anyway?)

and the Daleks keep getting defeated, the last of them, for once and forever… oh, until the next time.

By: Starviking

Starviking — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:10:12 +0000

England? ENGLAND!?

It’s the BBC – not the EBC you know…

(Of course UKBC would be better – but hey, what’re ya gonna do?

By: Naked Bunny with a Whip

Naked Bunny with a Whip — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:09:16 +0000

I don’t mind the new Cybermen, or the current take on the Daleks, but man, they are just being used to death!

By: IVAN3MAN

IVAN3MAN — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:08:37 +0000

Phil Plait, you're always going on about Dr. Who, but you've never mentioned the two Dr. Who movies featuring Peter Cushing as the Doctor: Dr Who and the Daleks and Daleks -- Invasion Earth 2150 AD. What's your opinion of them? Do you, like a lot of traditional Dr Who fans, not consider them 'canon'?

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:08:07 +0000

I for one welcome our new machine overlord… undoubtedly in league with everything mechanical trying to take over the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSEOXRLSpVc