Wait a minute, I didn’t say that? Who is low down and dirty enough to pretend to be me, and say something I would never say? That’s the last time I’m posting anything here. Phil you need some better security measures. People shouldn’t be able to post something pretending they are another blogger.

One is a smart and popular Governor of an important state, who took on corrupt officials of her own party and prevailed; who within 18 months of taking office negotiated a $40 bn. pipeline deal that was languishing for many years; and why, by the way, is not a creationists (that’s been debunked.)

And the other Sarah is a dumb caricature that exists only inside certain small minds.

Guys, you mistook pre-election propaganda for truth. Wake up and get out of your echo chamber, or you’ll get blindsided by realyy.

I bother mentioning social justice, because people violate other people’s rights in the name of social justice. Oh and by the way, you still haven’t given us anything specific as to how Bush shred the constitution.

I think you will find that Bush was willing to ignore the constitution on a regular basis.

Facts and specifics, please. And please make sure that they are actually examples of “shredding the constitution,” not just the type of executive actions that ALL presidents engage in.

No president has ever been perfect, but many of the things that Bush did that people say violated the constitution, really did not. Beyond that, government by the people does not imply social justice. Social justice is a delusion.

I think you will find that Bush was willing to ignore the constitution on a regular basis.

I’m a Republican and you seem to be bigoted against my party.

1) Are you all blinded by religious zealotry?

No, I’m not and most Republicans are not religious fanatics, in fact some are atheists or at least agnostics.

2) Or are you naive, stupid and ignorant enough to think that Obama really is a socialist?

Obama is a socialist, and he is certainly more of a socialist than McCain. He supports redistributing the wealth.

3) Are you rich people who are terrified that you’ll be taxed into poverty (or at least a slightly lesser degree of richness)?

I’m not a rich person, but I’m afraid of paying higher taxes. I have a limit money supply as it is.

4) Are you delusional middle-class bozos who dream of one day being rich yourselves, and thus are afraid of the taxes you’ll pay then.

Being middle class and dreaming of becoming rich one day is not delusional. Its hard to achieve, but it can be done. Oprah Winfrey grew up poor, but now she’s one of the wealthiest women in the country who gives away automobiles. Plus it was even harder on her, since she’s black and grew up the pre-civil rights area segregated south.

5) Maybe you’re just bigots, who think that’s it’s really fun to attack gays, Mexicans, Muslims, “liberals”, “intellectuals” and anybody else who isn’t a small-town hick?

I don’t like attack gays, or Mexicans, but I do like to attack liberals. Opposing illegal immigration is not racist or anti Mexican, I oppose white as well as minority illegal immigration. I think that everyone who comes here, should do it legally, regardless or race.

As for Islam, it is not the “Religion of Peace,” many people think it is, but even if it was, how is it bigotry to criticize a religion? Islam is a religion, not a race. It is a belief system and all belief systems are open to criticism, from Objectivism, to Communism to Scientology. People criticize Christianity all the time, and are not accused of bigotry by many of the same people who condemn those Critical of Islam.

6) Maybe you’re traditional conservatives, who believe in limited government and fiscal responsibility so fervently, that you can’t see that the Republicans have offered nothing of the sort for decades.

I do believe in limited government and fiscal responsibility. The Republican party is not perfect, but I think it does a better job than the democrats.

7) Perhaps you’re the anti-Americans who want the American Constitution to be used as Bush’s toilet paper.

No I’m really big on the Constitution. I’m an American and I see the Constitution as the greatest document ever written. One of the reasons I opposed Obama (and still do) is that I’m afraid that he will appoint justices who care more about “social justice” than the Constitution of my country.

And thus, I concede the argument, and once again remove BA from my bookmarks. I love the site, but some of the people around here (not you, DD – to tell the truth, you did show much more class than I) bring out the worst in me. It’ll be better for everyone if I just go have a cold shower, and go kill something. (Virtually, of course.)

You actually made some points? Lots of name-calling (okay–you didn’t say Nazi) for sure, but I didn’t actually see any actual arguments.

Go chill, dude–it’s a new day in America.

Feel free to tell me why you follow a bunch of politicos that have proven over and over and over again that they don’t give a damn about anybody but themselves, and simply manipulate scared, bigoted, religious zealots into handing them power (as well as the keys to the treasury.)

Tell me why you support a party so ruthless as to destroy an entire country, and so unconcerned that they didn’t even plan to restore it after they did so.

Let me know how you can rationalise voting for people who want to turn fellow Americans into an underclass, just because their sexual preferences differ from the norm.

Go ahead, I dare ya.

And I didn’t call anyone a Nazi. There was a big difference between the ordinary folk of Germany at that time, and the actual members of the Nazi party. But I guess you didn’t actually know/care what I was talking about.

“Class act”? McCain’s concession speech was the first bit of class that any national Republican politician or water-carrier has shown in eight years.

Thanks for letting commenters like Grump hang around. Calling people psychopaths, bed wetters, Nazis– a real class act . . .

The Right Wing Trolls have slyly changed the topic (something they’ve become really good at since Nixon) so that now, if they can “prove” that Ayers was indeed a terrorist, then clearly Obama is bad for America. Spot the hole in that argument.

I just can’t believe you conservative Americans. I’m trying to think of reasons why you still believe in the Republicans:
1) Are you all blinded by religious zealotry?
2) Or are you naive, stupid and ignorant enough to think that Obama really is a socialist?
3) Are you rich people who are terrified that you’ll be taxed into poverty (or at least a slightly lesser degree of richness)?
4) Are you delusional middle-class bozos who dream of one day being rich yourselves, and thus are afraid of the taxes you’ll pay then.
5) Maybe you’re just bigots, who think that’s it’s really fun to attack gays, Mexicans, Muslims, “liberals”, “intellectuals” and anybody else who isn’t a small-town hick?
6) Maybe you’re traditional conservatives, who believe in limited government and fiscal responsibility so fervently, that you can’t see that the Republicans have offered nothing of the sort for decades.
7) Perhaps you’re the anti-Americans who want the American Constitution to be used as Bush’s toilet paper.
Maybe you’re bed-wetters, so terrified of brown men that you go through several changes of underwear a day, and you’re willing to give anything to the draft-dodging Son-of-a-Bush so that he can pretend to protect you by invading random unrelated countries.
9) Perhaps you believe that Bush&Co were completely right to steal an entire country just to guarantee a continued supply of cheap gas (in which case, just how much did it cost you to refill your Hummer last time?)

Finally, maybe you’re just a bunch of psychopaths who enjoy seeing literally millions of human beings suffer everything from torture to exile to mass-death.

I can think of many reasons (besides just being a troll) why someone would support the Republicans, but none of them are noble or intelligent.

Now let me Godwin myself: The difference between modern Republicans and the “Good Germans” of the 1930′s is only quantitative, not qualitative.

You make me sick to my stomach.

Ayers is an irrelevance. Obama will be the president and he will be judged on his actions as president. Time to move on.

Animal rights and environmental activist who burn down people’s homes are terrorists, even if they don’t end up taking people’s lives. Bill Ayers was a terrorist.

No! I most certainly would NOT call him a terrorist. Destruction of property is NOT a terrorist act. It’s a criminal act. Had he ever destroyed PEOPLE, then THAT would qualify as terrorism and I will thank you to refrain from saying what I would call someone. Quit trying to put words in my mouth.

Well, that was entertaining but now I have to get ready for work. Y’All have fun while I’m gone.

Peace,

Gary 7

Bill Ayers was a terrorist who committed acts of violence. What he did was not the same as you getting into car and driving to work. And no, he was not a disgruntled revolutionary, he was a terrorist, who try to overthrow a legitimately elected government. If he had committed the same acts, but was say anti gay rights, anti abortion or anti secularism would you not call him a terrorist? Yes you most certainly would call him a terrorist. Ayers was just a politically correct leftist terrorist. He was no more a revolutionary, than the Vietcong were freedom fighters or North Korea is a people’s republic. He had been even more violent he might still be in jail, but some murders get way to little time in prison.