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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ &lt;b&gt;Reynold&lt;/b&gt; who said :

&quot;Obama has pledged on capital gains and for the highest income earners.
So he [Rush Limbaugh - ed.] calls it the “Obama” recession based on what? His speculations on what will happen, as opposed to what actually did happen already, under the current administration. These people are reaching.&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Somehow that doesn&#039;t surprise me although surely even most &quot;conservative&quot; Americans now see Limbaugh for the unfunny joke he is. 

The &quot;basis&quot; for Limbaugh&#039;s opinions on what he wrongly labels &quot;Obama&#039;s recession&quot;  &lt;i&gt;(The &quot;Lesser Bush&#039;s Depression&quot; would be the accurate tag for it)&lt;/i&gt; I&#039;ve little doubt are his own delusions stemming from his ideological bile-solidified brain cell. (Yes, that&#039;s cell, singular. ;-) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ <b>Reynold</b> who said :</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama has pledged on capital gains and for the highest income earners.<br />
So he [Rush Limbaugh - ed.] calls it the “Obama” recession based on what? His speculations on what will happen, as opposed to what actually did happen already, under the current administration. These people are reaching.&#8221; </p>
<p>Somehow that doesn&#8217;t surprise me although surely even most &#8220;conservative&#8221; Americans now see Limbaugh for the unfunny joke he is. </p>
<p>The &#8220;basis&#8221; for Limbaugh&#8217;s opinions on what he wrongly labels &#8220;Obama&#8217;s recession&#8221;  <i>(The &#8220;Lesser Bush&#8217;s Depression&#8221; would be the accurate tag for it)</i> I&#8217;ve little doubt are his own delusions stemming from his ideological bile-solidified brain cell. (Yes, that&#8217;s cell, singular. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR-COrrecting</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR-COrrecting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh! If it&#039;s not %$$#@@!@$$**^^@ typos its italics stuff-ups .. Cripes Phil when artewe going to get anediting /preview capability here? Sigh :-( 

TAKE II -&#039;Coz I can&#039;t correct any other way : 
YES!!  :-D

Victory for planetaria! The powerful pro-Science, pro-Astronomy lobby wins the Presidential race for Obama. ;-) 8) 

&lt;i&gt;(&amp; we all win! The USA, the wider world, everyone I think wins by your choosing Obama for president - congrats America, you’ve finally chosen *wisely* in an election!) &lt;/i&gt; 

I am so glad to see sanity - and Asler planetarium - prevail and I hope the anti-science forces have been defeated heavily enough that they never return. Yes, I know the election was about a lot else as well as the planetarium dispute but still I think &amp; hope it played a part in the campaign albeit maybe smaller than it should’ve, and that folks’ll learn from this.

Nice cover - even if it was a hoax.  :-)

Maybe when they’ve got the Adler planetarium finished they should invite President Obama, Vice-Pres. Biden and also the now happpily retired John McCain and that fruitcake Sara Palin in for the first show so they can see for themselves what the fuss was about?  ;-)

Of course, science and science education eg. planetaria should be publicly funded! I mean .. d’uh!  

… Which come to think of it is the alternative .. Everyone being ignorant and just going around saying ‘duh’ and not understanding anything much. :-(

Science and the opportunity for an education and hence future and having some sort of reasonable and wonder-filled understanding of the cosmos we live in should be a basic human right for everyone and is unquestionably in the public good - &amp; hence worthy of public funding. 

How even a Retardican ..sorry republican .. politician can doubt that is something I find hard to comprehend. :-(

PS. This dead horse issue flogged enuff now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh! If it&#8217;s not %$$#@@!@$$**^^@ typos its italics stuff-ups .. Cripes Phil when artewe going to get anediting /preview capability here? Sigh <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>TAKE II -&#8217;Coz I can&#8217;t correct any other way :<br />
YES!!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Victory for planetaria! The powerful pro-Science, pro-Astronomy lobby wins the Presidential race for Obama. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>(&#038; we all win! The USA, the wider world, everyone I think wins by your choosing Obama for president &#8211; congrats America, you’ve finally chosen *wisely* in an election!) </i> </p>
<p>I am so glad to see sanity &#8211; and Asler planetarium &#8211; prevail and I hope the anti-science forces have been defeated heavily enough that they never return. Yes, I know the election was about a lot else as well as the planetarium dispute but still I think &#038; hope it played a part in the campaign albeit maybe smaller than it should’ve, and that folks’ll learn from this.</p>
<p>Nice cover &#8211; even if it was a hoax.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Maybe when they’ve got the Adler planetarium finished they should invite President Obama, Vice-Pres. Biden and also the now happpily retired John McCain and that fruitcake Sara Palin in for the first show so they can see for themselves what the fuss was about?  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course, science and science education eg. planetaria should be publicly funded! I mean .. d’uh!  </p>
<p>… Which come to think of it is the alternative .. Everyone being ignorant and just going around saying ‘duh’ and not understanding anything much. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Science and the opportunity for an education and hence future and having some sort of reasonable and wonder-filled understanding of the cosmos we live in should be a basic human right for everyone and is unquestionably in the public good &#8211; &#038; hence worthy of public funding. </p>
<p>How even a Retardican ..sorry republican .. politician can doubt that is something I find hard to comprehend. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS. This dead horse issue flogged enuff now?</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES!! 8) :-D

Victory for planetaria! The powerful pro-Science, pro-Astronomy lobby wins the Presidential race. &lt;i&gt; (&amp; we all win! The USA, the wider world, everyone I think wins by your choosing Obama for president  - congrats America, you&#039;ve finally chosen * wisely * in an election!) ;-) 

I am so glad to see sanity - and Asler planetarium - prevail and I hope the anti-science forces have been defeated heavily enough that they never return. :-) 

Yes, I know the election was about a lot else as well as the planetarium dispute but still I think &amp; hope it played a part in the campaign albeit maybe smaller than it should&#039;ve and that folks&#039;ll learn from this.

Nice cover - even if it was a hoax. ;-)

Maybe when they&#039;ve got the Adler planetarium finished they should invite  President Obama, Vice-Pres.  Biden and also the now happpily retired  John McCain and that fruitcake Sara Palin in for the first show so they can see for themselves what the fuss was about? ;-)

Of course, science and science education eg. planetaria should be publicly funded! I mean  .. d&#039;uh! ;-)

... Which come to think of it is the alternative .. Everyone being ignorant and just going around saying &#039;duh&#039; and not understanding anything much. :-(

Science and the opportunity for an education and hence future and having some sort of reasonable and wonder-filled understanding of the cosmos we live in should be a basic human right for everyone and is unquestionably in the public good - &amp; hence worthy of public funding.  

How even a Retardican ..sorry republican .. politician can doubt that is something I find hard to comprehend. 

PS. This dead horse issue flogged enuff now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES!! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> :-D</p>
<p>Victory for planetaria! The powerful pro-Science, pro-Astronomy lobby wins the Presidential race. <i> (&#038; we all win! The USA, the wider world, everyone I think wins by your choosing Obama for president  &#8211; congrats America, you&#8217;ve finally chosen * wisely * in an election!) <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I am so glad to see sanity &#8211; and Asler planetarium &#8211; prevail and I hope the anti-science forces have been defeated heavily enough that they never return. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Yes, I know the election was about a lot else as well as the planetarium dispute but still I think &#038; hope it played a part in the campaign albeit maybe smaller than it should&#8217;ve and that folks&#8217;ll learn from this.</p>
<p>Nice cover &#8211; even if it was a hoax. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Maybe when they&#8217;ve got the Adler planetarium finished they should invite  President Obama, Vice-Pres.  Biden and also the now happpily retired  John McCain and that fruitcake Sara Palin in for the first show so they can see for themselves what the fuss was about? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Of course, science and science education eg. planetaria should be publicly funded! I mean  .. d&#8217;uh! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8230; Which come to think of it is the alternative .. Everyone being ignorant and just going around saying &#8216;duh&#8217; and not understanding anything much. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Science and the opportunity for an education and hence future and having some sort of reasonable and wonder-filled understanding of the cosmos we live in should be a basic human right for everyone and is unquestionably in the public good &#8211; &#038; hence worthy of public funding.  </p>
<p>How even a Retardican ..sorry republican .. politician can doubt that is something I find hard to comprehend. </p>
<p>PS. This dead horse issue flogged enuff now?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Reynold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reynold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 19:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it seems that Obama will put forward some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16007-obama-plans-to-sweep-bush-stemcell-restrictions-aside.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pro-science policies&lt;/a&gt;, and help a bit with &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.aol.com/article/obama-planning-us-trials-for-detainees/242559&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;human rights&lt;/a&gt;...but get a load of what fat head &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-onthemedia9-2008nov09,0,800478.story&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rush Limbaugh&lt;/a&gt; has to say about Obama and the economy:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;The Obama recession is in full swing, ladies and gentlemen,&quot; Limbaugh told his radio audience of 15 million to 20 million on Thursday. &quot;Stocks are dying, which is a precursor of things to come. This is an Obama recession. Might turn into a depression.&quot;

Apparently the tanking of the real estate market, record losses in the auto industry, and massive failures in the banking and investment industry have very little to do with our problems. The economic system is collapsing, Rush wants us to know, because it anticipates the tax increases Obama has pledged on capital gains and for the highest income earners.&lt;/i&gt;
So he calls it the &quot;Obama&quot; recession based on what?  His speculations on what will happen, as opposed to what actually &lt;b&gt;did&lt;/b&gt; happen already, under the current administration.  These people are reaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it seems that Obama will put forward some <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16007-obama-plans-to-sweep-bush-stemcell-restrictions-aside.html" rel="nofollow">pro-science policies</a>, and help a bit with <a href="http://news.aol.com/article/obama-planning-us-trials-for-detainees/242559" rel="nofollow">human rights</a>&#8230;but get a load of what fat head <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-onthemedia9-2008nov09,0,800478.story" rel="nofollow">Rush Limbaugh</a> has to say about Obama and the economy:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The Obama recession is in full swing, ladies and gentlemen,&#8221; Limbaugh told his radio audience of 15 million to 20 million on Thursday. &#8220;Stocks are dying, which is a precursor of things to come. This is an Obama recession. Might turn into a depression.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apparently the tanking of the real estate market, record losses in the auto industry, and massive failures in the banking and investment industry have very little to do with our problems. The economic system is collapsing, Rush wants us to know, because it anticipates the tax increases Obama has pledged on capital gains and for the highest income earners.</i><br />
So he calls it the &#8220;Obama&#8221; recession based on what?  His speculations on what will happen, as opposed to what actually <b>did</b> happen already, under the current administration.  These people are reaching.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;All those saying federal resources are limited needs to take a good look at the full federal budget. $3M is pocket change.&quot;

Lets do just that!  

The federal government currently has a deficit of $500 billion (actually much more then that), and a debt of $70 trillion.  

Whatever the financial status of Illinois or the local government is, I think it can afford the projector much more then the federal government, thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;All those saying federal resources are limited needs to take a good look at the full federal budget. $3M is pocket change.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lets do just that!  </p>
<p>The federal government currently has a deficit of $500 billion (actually much more then that), and a debt of $70 trillion.  </p>
<p>Whatever the financial status of Illinois or the local government is, I think it can afford the projector much more then the federal government, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Gemini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gemini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that my band could take a detour there while in Chicago.</description>
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		<title>By: Gary Eller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Eller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I missed the first blog entry about McCain&#039;s stupid remarks, but wanted to take this opportunity to say that, as a kid a visit to Adler sparked a deep interest in astronomy for me. I remember the entire family making the trip from the middle of Indiana to visit several Chicago museums. 

It is worthwhile to note that the area around the south part of Grant park has the Field Museum of Natural History, Shedd Aquarium, and Adler Planetarium all within easy walking distance and make a great combination. Also the Museum of Science and Industry isn&#039;t far and fascinating. I would say it isn&#039;t just even the star projector, but continuing to keep the entire area supported and current.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I missed the first blog entry about McCain&#8217;s stupid remarks, but wanted to take this opportunity to say that, as a kid a visit to Adler sparked a deep interest in astronomy for me. I remember the entire family making the trip from the middle of Indiana to visit several Chicago museums. </p>
<p>It is worthwhile to note that the area around the south part of Grant park has the Field Museum of Natural History, Shedd Aquarium, and Adler Planetarium all within easy walking distance and make a great combination. Also the Museum of Science and Industry isn&#8217;t far and fascinating. I would say it isn&#8217;t just even the star projector, but continuing to keep the entire area supported and current.</p>
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