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	<title>Comments on: This time, Phoenix won&#8217;t arise from the ashes</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Nancy Mehegan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Mehegan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read some Epitaphs for the failing Lander:

http://www.vaboomer.com/the_portal_to_boomeranger/2008/11/epitaph-for-the-mars-lander.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read some Epitaphs for the failing Lander:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vaboomer.com/the_portal_to_boomeranger/2008/11/epitaph-for-the-mars-lander.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.vaboomer.com/the_portal_to_boomeranger/2008/11/epitaph-for-the-mars-lander.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Argh! Its &lt;i&gt; always &lt;/i&gt; the italics ... :-( 

&lt;b&gt;TAKE II&lt;/b&gt; (Oh how I wish we could just EDIT these properly. Sigh.) 
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&lt;b&gt; shane &lt;/b&gt; also said on November 12th, 2008 at 8:20 am : 

&lt;i&gt; “Wow, Nov. 9 was Spirit’s 725th day. Apparently the dust storm is easing but I haven’t seen mention of how they clean the solar panels or if it is possible at all? I suppose if it was a manned mission they’d send someone outside with a broom.” &lt;/i&gt;

If I recall right the dust-devils that swept over the MERs ‘Spirit’ and ‘Opportunity’ actually cleaned them off rather nicely and improved their energy gathering capacities.  :-)

As for a manned mission using a broom to clear the solar panels, well I’d imagine just a damp cloth would suffice .. Although on second thoughts as soon as they stepped outside the cloth would freeze solid so maybe just a dry one would be best?  ;-)

&lt;b&gt;BigBob&lt;/b&gt; Said on November 12th, 2008 at 8:28 am :
 &lt;i&gt;
&quot;Lets remember that this mission brought us one of the coolest astro pics of all time, the “Phoenix Descending” HiRISE image. ... I.saw.it.launch.
Bob(Big)&quot; &lt;/i&gt;

Absolutely - I bet that shot will be in Phil&#039;s 2008 Best images post! :-D It certainly deserves to be.

Yes, &lt;b&gt;Steve A&lt;/b&gt; , my fingers and toes are crosed for &#039;Spirit&#039; - now it &amp; its sibling rover must be setting some kind of record for lasting so long already and heres hoping it keeps on roving for a while yet! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Argh! Its <i> always </i> the italics &#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p><b>TAKE II</b> (Oh how I wish we could just EDIT these properly. Sigh.)<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
<b> shane </b> also said on November 12th, 2008 at 8:20 am : </p>
<p><i> “Wow, Nov. 9 was Spirit’s 725th day. Apparently the dust storm is easing but I haven’t seen mention of how they clean the solar panels or if it is possible at all? I suppose if it was a manned mission they’d send someone outside with a broom.” </i></p>
<p>If I recall right the dust-devils that swept over the MERs ‘Spirit’ and ‘Opportunity’ actually cleaned them off rather nicely and improved their energy gathering capacities.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As for a manned mission using a broom to clear the solar panels, well I’d imagine just a damp cloth would suffice .. Although on second thoughts as soon as they stepped outside the cloth would freeze solid so maybe just a dry one would be best?  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><b>BigBob</b> Said on November 12th, 2008 at 8:28 am :<br />
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&#8220;Lets remember that this mission brought us one of the coolest astro pics of all time, the “Phoenix Descending” HiRISE image. &#8230; I.saw.it.launch.<br />
Bob(Big)&#8221; </i></p>
<p>Absolutely &#8211; I bet that shot will be in Phil&#8217;s 2008 Best images post! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' />  It certainly deserves to be.</p>
<p>Yes, <b>Steve A</b> , my fingers and toes are crosed for &#8216;Spirit&#8217; &#8211; now it &#038; its sibling rover must be setting some kind of record for lasting so long already and heres hoping it keeps on roving for a while yet! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;shane&lt;/b&gt; also said on November 12th, 2008 at 8:20 am : 

&lt;i&gt; &quot;Wow, Nov. 9 was Spirit’s 725th day. Apparently the dust storm is easing but I haven’t seen mention of how they clean the solar panels or if it is possible at all? I suppose if it was a manned mission they’d send someone outside with a broom.&quot; 

If I recall right the dust-devils that swept over the MERs &#039;Spirit&#039; and &#039;Opportunity&#039; actuallycleamned them off ratehr nicely and improve dtheir energy gathering capacities. ;-) 

As for a manned mission using a broom toclear the solar panels, well I&#039;d imagine just a damp cloth would suffice .. Although on second thoughts as soon as they stepped outside the cloth would freeze solid so maybe just a dry one would be best? :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>shane</b> also said on November 12th, 2008 at 8:20 am : </p>
<p><i> &#8220;Wow, Nov. 9 was Spirit’s 725th day. Apparently the dust storm is easing but I haven’t seen mention of how they clean the solar panels or if it is possible at all? I suppose if it was a manned mission they’d send someone outside with a broom.&#8221; </p>
<p>If I recall right the dust-devils that swept over the MERs &#8216;Spirit&#8217; and &#8216;Opportunity&#8217; actuallycleamned them off ratehr nicely and improve dtheir energy gathering capacities. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>As for a manned mission using a broom toclear the solar panels, well I&#8217;d imagine just a damp cloth would suffice .. Although on second thoughts as soon as they stepped outside the cloth would freeze solid so maybe just a dry one would be best? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </i></p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;shane&lt;/b&gt; Said : November 12th, 2008 at 4:18 am 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;StevoR,

like this? :roll: &quot; &lt;/i&gt; 

Exactly!

&amp; then &lt;b&gt; shane &lt;/b&gt; said : 
&lt;i&gt; &quot;Which is done like this… :roll: &quot; &lt;/i&gt; 

Thanks! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>shane</b> Said : November 12th, 2008 at 4:18 am </p>
<p><i>&#8220;StevoR,</p>
<p>like this? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8221; </i> </p>
<p>Exactly!</p>
<p>&#038; then <b> shane </b> said :<br />
<i> &#8220;Which is done like this… <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8221; </i> </p>
<p>Thanks! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was me, Steve A.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was me, Steve A.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Marking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom Marking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drat, I thought they were planning on Phoenix lasting until the end of December or early January.  It would have been cool to see the condensation of carbon dioxide forming around the spacecraft.  They are expecting something like half a meter of frozen CO2 to form around the spacecraft during the winter time.  That would have been a very cool photograph to look out and see a winter landscape on Mars.  Maybe there would have been frozen CO2 icecycles hanging off Phoenix&#039;s arm.  I guess now we&#039;re not going to be receiving those cool pictures.  I wonder if HiRISE can zoom in and get some of those shots now that Phoenix is dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drat, I thought they were planning on Phoenix lasting until the end of December or early January.  It would have been cool to see the condensation of carbon dioxide forming around the spacecraft.  They are expecting something like half a meter of frozen CO2 to form around the spacecraft during the winter time.  That would have been a very cool photograph to look out and see a winter landscape on Mars.  Maybe there would have been frozen CO2 icecycles hanging off Phoenix&#8217;s arm.  I guess now we&#8217;re not going to be receiving those cool pictures.  I wonder if HiRISE can zoom in and get some of those shots now that Phoenix is dead.</p>
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		<title>By: BigBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets remember that this mission brought us one of the coolest astro pics of all time, the &quot;Phoenix Descending&quot; HiRISE image.  Click my name to see the *srsly embiggened* image at the Planetary Society.  And big thanks to Emily for her awesome coverage of the mission.
I.saw.it.launch.
Bob(Big)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets remember that this mission brought us one of the coolest astro pics of all time, the &#8220;Phoenix Descending&#8221; HiRISE image.  Click my name to see the *srsly embiggened* image at the Planetary Society.  And big thanks to Emily for her awesome coverage of the mission.<br />
I.saw.it.launch.<br />
Bob(Big)</p>
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