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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Saturn’s polar light show mystifies scientists &#124; Ourker Test</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/12/saturns-heat-rash/comment-page-1/#comment-137492</link>
		<dc:creator>Saturn’s polar light show mystifies scientists &#124; Ourker Test</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Saturn’s heat rash Discover Magazine ,November 13, 2008 I always say that (besides Earth) Saturn is the most beautiful planet in the solar system. I may have to revise that opinion. At least in this case. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Saturn’s heat rash Discover Magazine ,November 13, 2008 I always say that (besides Earth) Saturn is the most beautiful planet in the solar system. I may have to revise that opinion. At least in this case. &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Saturn’s heat rash &#124; Autos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saturn’s heat rash &#124; Autos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 10:51:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I always say that (besides Earth) Saturn is the most beautiful planet in the solar system. I may have to revise that opinion. At least in this case. &#8230;Read More：http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/12/saturns-heat-rash/&#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I always say that (besides Earth) Saturn is the most beautiful planet in the solar system. I may have to revise that opinion. At least in this case. &#8230;Read More：http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/12/saturns-heat-rash/&#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doesn&#039;t really look infected &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; way; it&#039;s not very triangular.  Now, if Saturn reaches for the chicken scissors...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t really look infected <i>that</i> way; it&#8217;s not very triangular.  Now, if Saturn reaches for the chicken scissors&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would suggest that this is due to the hexagonal cyclone - perhaps the interaction of differently composed clouds rotating around the pole causes some sort of magnetic field to propagate?

Sort of like when a magnetic field forms when you stroke two pieces of metal together for long enough? This could explain the strange cyclone lines. A rotating magnetic field independent of the regular planetary magnetosphere? maybe that could create a permanent deflection from what we portray as a normal polar cloud band. It could also explain some of the crazy aurora?

But hey - im talking out of my ass because i dont actually know a whole lot about this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would suggest that this is due to the hexagonal cyclone &#8211; perhaps the interaction of differently composed clouds rotating around the pole causes some sort of magnetic field to propagate?</p>
<p>Sort of like when a magnetic field forms when you stroke two pieces of metal together for long enough? This could explain the strange cyclone lines. A rotating magnetic field independent of the regular planetary magnetosphere? maybe that could create a permanent deflection from what we portray as a normal polar cloud band. It could also explain some of the crazy aurora?</p>
<p>But hey &#8211; im talking out of my ass because i dont actually know a whole lot about this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect there&#039;s plenty of intelligent life out there. I also expect there&#039;s very little techno intelligence anywhere. The universe, at 13.7 billion years old, is very young. We&#039;ve barely had enough time for second generation metal rich  stars to evolve, let alone for the techno intellects to get a grip. Technology is the only way we know for a species to leave their planetary environment and spread all over the place. If I was a Grand Designer, that&#039;s how I would want it done. One techno sentience per galaxy per eon,,,less chance of a galaxy wide war zone developing,,,
Of course, given humanities penchant for squabbling, we&#039;ll probably do quite nicely warring with ourselves, no matter how far we colonize. Plenty of war stories to keep a Grand Old Designer entertained,,,

Gary 7
PS: Phenomenal Pics. I think Saturn is just one of the coolest planets ever,,,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect there&#8217;s plenty of intelligent life out there. I also expect there&#8217;s very little techno intelligence anywhere. The universe, at 13.7 billion years old, is very young. We&#8217;ve barely had enough time for second generation metal rich  stars to evolve, let alone for the techno intellects to get a grip. Technology is the only way we know for a species to leave their planetary environment and spread all over the place. If I was a Grand Designer, that&#8217;s how I would want it done. One techno sentience per galaxy per eon,,,less chance of a galaxy wide war zone developing,,,<br />
Of course, given humanities penchant for squabbling, we&#8217;ll probably do quite nicely warring with ourselves, no matter how far we colonize. Plenty of war stories to keep a Grand Old Designer entertained,,,</p>
<p>Gary 7<br />
PS: Phenomenal Pics. I think Saturn is just one of the coolest planets ever,,,</p>
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		<title>By: TheWalruss</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheWalruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad to think humans will (probably) never stand on the surface and look up at this spectacle first-hand. We&#039;re too squishy!

But I guess the clouds would get in the way, too, so I should be happy we get this view.

Perhaps some tentacly creature from the depths of Enceladus can poke its head out from a vent to appreciate the view.

So much awesome stuff to see, and so few people to see it!

Stupid designer - couldn&#039;t he come up with a universe with a denser concentration of intelligent life? Gosh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad to think humans will (probably) never stand on the surface and look up at this spectacle first-hand. We&#8217;re too squishy!</p>
<p>But I guess the clouds would get in the way, too, so I should be happy we get this view.</p>
<p>Perhaps some tentacly creature from the depths of Enceladus can poke its head out from a vent to appreciate the view.</p>
<p>So much awesome stuff to see, and so few people to see it!</p>
<p>Stupid designer &#8211; couldn&#8217;t he come up with a universe with a denser concentration of intelligent life? Gosh!</p>
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		<title>By: Palliard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Palliard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it possible that some of the ring material became ionized and was pulled down along different magnetic lines than the solar wind?  That could get you concentric rings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it possible that some of the ring material became ionized and was pulled down along different magnetic lines than the solar wind?  That could get you concentric rings.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom S</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/12/saturns-heat-rash/comment-page-1/#comment-133917</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 11:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always enjoy the Hollow Earth explanations for this kind of thing, mostly because they don&#039;t conform to the usual &#039;find something we don&#039;t understand and use it to crowbar in an odd idea&#039; template, but rather they just make stuff up that sounds cool.  The aurora are the light from the inside sun shining outwards, of course.  This new image will clearly solve everything.

Michael P - I must respectfully disagree with you, the aurora are far more interesting.  Of course, some of my colleagues might agree with you more.  ;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoy the Hollow Earth explanations for this kind of thing, mostly because they don&#8217;t conform to the usual &#8216;find something we don&#8217;t understand and use it to crowbar in an odd idea&#8217; template, but rather they just make stuff up that sounds cool.  The aurora are the light from the inside sun shining outwards, of course.  This new image will clearly solve everything.</p>
<p>Michael P &#8211; I must respectfully disagree with you, the aurora are far more interesting.  Of course, some of my colleagues might agree with you more.  ;P</p>
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		<title>By: Monty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your calling Saturn&#039;s north pole the equivalent of the Arctic (the north pole, but the magnetic south pole) made me wonder - is north and south on other planets defined from their magnetic poles? If so, is the magnetic south pole called the north pole, as on Earth? Or are the rotational poles used to define north and south?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your calling Saturn&#8217;s north pole the equivalent of the Arctic (the north pole, but the magnetic south pole) made me wonder &#8211; is north and south on other planets defined from their magnetic poles? If so, is the magnetic south pole called the north pole, as on Earth? Or are the rotational poles used to define north and south?</p>
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		<title>By: michael s pierce</title>
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		<dc:creator>michael s pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m afraid the strangest thing to me are the hexagonal &quot;standing waves&quot; over the north pole and not the auroras.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m afraid the strangest thing to me are the hexagonal &#8220;standing waves&#8221; over the north pole and not the auroras.</p>
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		<title>By: McCart</title>
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		<dc:creator>McCart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remek, you are mistaken.  Saturn is the only planet in the solar system where the magnetic poles ARE inline with its rotational poles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remek, you are mistaken.  Saturn is the only planet in the solar system where the magnetic poles ARE inline with its rotational poles.</p>
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		<title>By: miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remek, I think the magnetic poles of Saturn are actually very close to the rotational poles, unlike Jupiter or Earth.

Another interesting thing to notice in the picture is that famous Saturn hexagonal vortex.  It&#039;s sort of hard to see because the aurora is in the way, but here&#039;s a clearer picture:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia11216.html

I know the hexagonal vortex is slightly old news, but I still think it&#039;s totally freaky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remek, I think the magnetic poles of Saturn are actually very close to the rotational poles, unlike Jupiter or Earth.</p>
<p>Another interesting thing to notice in the picture is that famous Saturn hexagonal vortex.  It&#8217;s sort of hard to see because the aurora is in the way, but here&#8217;s a clearer picture:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia11216.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia11216.html</a></p>
<p>I know the hexagonal vortex is slightly old news, but I still think it&#8217;s totally freaky.</p>
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		<title>By: Remek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Remek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, Saturn&#039;s magnetic poles are offset from its rotational poles, which makes this image quite strange indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, Saturn&#8217;s magnetic poles are offset from its rotational poles, which makes this image quite strange indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since most of the auroras look like they&#039;re forming right on top of Saturn&#039;s crazy hexagon, could the hexagon somehow be related to Saturn&#039;s magnetic field?

If anyone&#039;s not familiar with the hexagon, there&#039;s a picture of it here:

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-20070327.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since most of the auroras look like they&#8217;re forming right on top of Saturn&#8217;s crazy hexagon, could the hexagon somehow be related to Saturn&#8217;s magnetic field?</p>
<p>If anyone&#8217;s not familiar with the hexagon, there&#8217;s a picture of it here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-20070327.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-20070327.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww, Scott that may be irrational, but it&#039;s also touching. I too grew up with the Voyager and Galileo missions, and have fond memories of the first incredible images of the Jovian moons... My favorite was Io, with its tortured and dynamic surface. There is definitely nothing like that first taste of how amazing the universe is.

But the discovery of extrasolar planetary systems fills me with wonder and excitement again: roaster gas giants, &quot;super&quot; earths, brown dwarfs... And now closer to home, the aurorae of Saturn. Wonder upon wonder, worlds without end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww, Scott that may be irrational, but it&#8217;s also touching. I too grew up with the Voyager and Galileo missions, and have fond memories of the first incredible images of the Jovian moons&#8230; My favorite was Io, with its tortured and dynamic surface. There is definitely nothing like that first taste of how amazing the universe is.</p>
<p>But the discovery of extrasolar planetary systems fills me with wonder and excitement again: roaster gas giants, &#8220;super&#8221; earths, brown dwarfs&#8230; And now closer to home, the aurorae of Saturn. Wonder upon wonder, worlds without end.</p>
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		<title>By: rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 23:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not your field, eh?

maxwell was close: Phil dot B = 0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not your field, eh?</p>
<p>maxwell was close: Phil dot B = 0.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was always partial to Jupiter as well, between the Great Red Spot and the whole king of the planets thing (easily more massive than all the other planets combined).  It just appealed to me for some reason, so much so that when they started finding planets in other solar systems, I was sad (yes I know that&#039;s completely irrational).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was always partial to Jupiter as well, between the Great Red Spot and the whole king of the planets thing (easily more massive than all the other planets combined).  It just appealed to me for some reason, so much so that when they started finding planets in other solar systems, I was sad (yes I know that&#8217;s completely irrational).</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Curt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Curt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else see the profile of Howdy Doody?  His nose and lips are pointing up at the top of it... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else see the profile of Howdy Doody?  His nose and lips are pointing up at the top of it&#8230; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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