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	<title>Comments on: Trek Wreck</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: ScienceOnline09: Science Fiction in Science Blogs &#124; ideonexus.com</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-149654</link>
		<dc:creator>ScienceOnline09: Science Fiction in Science Blogs &#124; ideonexus.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I was glad to see both Scicurious and Dr. Isis sing Star Trek&#8217;s praises. Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy is a huge Trek fan, even having debates about the show with Wil &#8220;Wesley Crusher&#8221; Wheaton. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I was glad to see both Scicurious and Dr. Isis sing Star Trek&#8217;s praises. Phil Plait of Bad Astronomy is a huge Trek fan, even having debates about the show with Wil &#8220;Wesley Crusher&#8221; Wheaton. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ZZMike</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZZMike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the trailers from the DrudgeReport site.  Wesley in the clown sweater is no match for Uhuru without hers.  This looks like Star Trek Ticky Tacky, or maybe Star Dreck, a mish-mosh cobbed together for teen-age panters.  Or maybe a &quot;Beverly Hills 1701&quot;.  All of which I can do without.

One of the links on the Official Site is &quot;skip trailer&quot;.  I&#039;ll do them one better.  I&#039;ll skip the movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the trailers from the DrudgeReport site.  Wesley in the clown sweater is no match for Uhuru without hers.  This looks like Star Trek Ticky Tacky, or maybe Star Dreck, a mish-mosh cobbed together for teen-age panters.  Or maybe a &#8220;Beverly Hills 1701&#8243;.  All of which I can do without.</p>
<p>One of the links on the Official Site is &#8220;skip trailer&#8221;.  I&#8217;ll do them one better.  I&#8217;ll skip the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Hax Or</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hax Or</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I have learned reading this comments:

Charles will hold on to his infancy?

They could have done another Next Generation, but did not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I have learned reading this comments:</p>
<p>Charles will hold on to his infancy?</p>
<p>They could have done another Next Generation, but did not?</p>
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		<title>By: Unspeakably Violent Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unspeakably Violent Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never watched much of the origninal series, but is &quot;manual override not working&quot; the equivalent of vital ship functions going &quot;off-line&quot; in next-gen? Shields, weapons, engines, always &quot;off-line&quot; at the vital moment. Don&#039;t know why they didn&#039;t just switch &#039;em back on. That&#039;s what I do when my printer is off-line!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never watched much of the origninal series, but is &#8220;manual override not working&#8221; the equivalent of vital ship functions going &#8220;off-line&#8221; in next-gen? Shields, weapons, engines, always &#8220;off-line&#8221; at the vital moment. Don&#8217;t know why they didn&#8217;t just switch &#8216;em back on. That&#8217;s what I do when my printer is off-line!</p>
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		<title>By: JB of Brisbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB of Brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...because the episodes were so mutually contradictory that the only way to be a Trek fan and not lose your mind is to be a bit lenient in the self-consistency department.&quot;

The only inconsistency in the classic TV series of which I can think is from the very first episode, where Kirk says to McCoy &quot;Perhaps you should take a lesson from Mr Spock, doctor... stop thinking with your glands!&quot; This from the man who went on to become perhaps the most glandular captain in the history of Star Fleet.

Other than that, I found the show very consistent; red shirted extras always died, Manual Override never worked and Kirk would either romance a hot alien chick or get his shirt off at least once an episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;because the episodes were so mutually contradictory that the only way to be a Trek fan and not lose your mind is to be a bit lenient in the self-consistency department.&#8221;</p>
<p>The only inconsistency in the classic TV series of which I can think is from the very first episode, where Kirk says to McCoy &#8220;Perhaps you should take a lesson from Mr Spock, doctor&#8230; stop thinking with your glands!&#8221; This from the man who went on to become perhaps the most glandular captain in the history of Star Fleet.</p>
<p>Other than that, I found the show very consistent; red shirted extras always died, Manual Override never worked and Kirk would either romance a hot alien chick or get his shirt off at least once an episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Robo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-135125</link>
		<dc:creator>Darth Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch out for Gorns!  

:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch out for Gorns!  </p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-135097</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please please please give this movie a &quot;bad science&quot; review!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please please please give this movie a &#8220;bad science&#8221; review!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Clayton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-135084</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Space is disease and danger... wrapped in darkness and silence!&quot;

w00t! I spy Vasquez Rocks!
&lt;img src=&quot;http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/3040640489_2bd05c491f.jpg&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Space is disease and danger&#8230; wrapped in darkness and silence!&#8221;</p>
<p>w00t! I spy Vasquez Rocks!<br />
<img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3249/3040640489_2bd05c491f.jpg"/></p>
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		<title>By: elgarak</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-135075</link>
		<dc:creator>elgarak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>www.apple.com/trailers has the trailer in full HD, legally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.apple.com/trailers" rel="nofollow">http://www.apple.com/trailers</a> has the trailer in full HD, legally.</p>
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		<title>By: Angry Klingon (that's a true pleonasm)</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-135069</link>
		<dc:creator>Angry Klingon (that's a true pleonasm)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually it sound more like &quot;Starfleet 90210 - the action movie&quot;.
I don&#039;t know what, but something tell me that I&#039;m gonna hate this movie.
I&#039;ll go to the premiere, none the less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it sound more like &#8220;Starfleet 90210 &#8211; the action movie&#8221;.<br />
I don&#8217;t know what, but something tell me that I&#8217;m gonna hate this movie.<br />
I&#8217;ll go to the premiere, none the less.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-135044</link>
		<dc:creator>Troy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:26:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think $3.75 for the clown sweater is a bit overpriced.  Salvation Army why do you rip people off so?  I would like to see Wil Wheaton in more shows.  I guess he needs to join Scientology (and maybe a couch jump on Oprah or two) to get more work.  But anyway it is a tremendous waste of his talent.  Maybe he could host a science show?  He&#039;s got the mind for it and the telepresence.  I suspect I&#039;ll be disappointed with the new Trek.  I&#039;m not going to search for the illegal trailer so I&#039;ll reserve judgement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think $3.75 for the clown sweater is a bit overpriced.  Salvation Army why do you rip people off so?  I would like to see Wil Wheaton in more shows.  I guess he needs to join Scientology (and maybe a couch jump on Oprah or two) to get more work.  But anyway it is a tremendous waste of his talent.  Maybe he could host a science show?  He&#8217;s got the mind for it and the telepresence.  I suspect I&#8217;ll be disappointed with the new Trek.  I&#8217;m not going to search for the illegal trailer so I&#8217;ll reserve judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ill Tempered Klavier</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-135040</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ill Tempered Klavier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be more interested in buns and abs, but then I got tits. Just leave Verhoeven out of it: I still haven&#039;t forgiven the {expletives deleted} and everybody else connected with the abomination called Starship Troopers.  Grok.

I go to burn incense at the altars of Fineline, God of engineers and Zeemoff, God of automation and building contractors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be more interested in buns and abs, but then I got tits. Just leave Verhoeven out of it: I still haven&#8217;t forgiven the {expletives deleted} and everybody else connected with the abomination called Starship Troopers.  Grok.</p>
<p>I go to burn incense at the altars of Fineline, God of engineers and Zeemoff, God of automation and building contractors.</p>
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		<title>By: elgarak</title>
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		<dc:creator>elgarak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m not too impressed with the trailer. Looks very much like &quot;Star Trek 90210&quot; to me. And Abrams is no fan of technobabble, or good science in science fiction (see &quot;Fringe&quot; -- shudder).

I&#039;m still not getting what I want.

A hard R-rated Mirror Universe movie. Directed by Paul Verhoeven. Tits and gore, and a little subtle satire.

Or a Deadwood-style Mirror Universe show on HBO.

Yep, that should do it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m not too impressed with the trailer. Looks very much like &#8220;Star Trek 90210&#8243; to me. And Abrams is no fan of technobabble, or good science in science fiction (see &#8220;Fringe&#8221; &#8212; shudder).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not getting what I want.</p>
<p>A hard R-rated Mirror Universe movie. Directed by Paul Verhoeven. Tits and gore, and a little subtle satire.</p>
<p>Or a Deadwood-style Mirror Universe show on HBO.</p>
<p>Yep, that should do it. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: tracer</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul wrote:

[i]&quot;Ok, just for the record … in the Original series Warp speed was supposed to represent n^3 times the speed of light.&quot;[/i]


This was actually a retcon.  As originally scripted, there WAS no mapping between warp factors and real-life speeds, except for Warp 1.  Higher warp numbers just meant that the Enterprise was going &quot;faster&quot;, and the actual speed was left as an exercise for the imagination.

Later fans wanted to impose some rules of order on their favorite show, and came up with a formula that would make the maximum cruising Warp Factor of the Enterprise (warp 6) be a reasonable speed for interstellar travel.  They settled for the &quot;Warp x = x^3 * c&quot; formula because it was simple and reasonably elegant, and later generations of Trek novel writers took it as canon.  However, this formula was never officially sanctioned by Paramount, and arguments among the fans would still occasionally break out.

When ST:TNG rolled around, the writers decided to make an official warp speed formula to settle these arguments once and for all.  This time, though, Rodenberry had proclaimed that Warp 10 corresponded with infinite speed, and so their formula had to take that into account.  Thus was born the famous &quot;Warp x = x^3.333333... * c, up to warp 9&quot; formula that made it into the published ST:TNG Technical Manual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul wrote:</p>
<p>[i]&#8220;Ok, just for the record … in the Original series Warp speed was supposed to represent n^3 times the speed of light.&#8221;[/i]</p>
<p>This was actually a retcon.  As originally scripted, there WAS no mapping between warp factors and real-life speeds, except for Warp 1.  Higher warp numbers just meant that the Enterprise was going &#8220;faster&#8221;, and the actual speed was left as an exercise for the imagination.</p>
<p>Later fans wanted to impose some rules of order on their favorite show, and came up with a formula that would make the maximum cruising Warp Factor of the Enterprise (warp 6) be a reasonable speed for interstellar travel.  They settled for the &#8220;Warp x = x^3 * c&#8221; formula because it was simple and reasonably elegant, and later generations of Trek novel writers took it as canon.  However, this formula was never officially sanctioned by Paramount, and arguments among the fans would still occasionally break out.</p>
<p>When ST:TNG rolled around, the writers decided to make an official warp speed formula to settle these arguments once and for all.  This time, though, Rodenberry had proclaimed that Warp 10 corresponded with infinite speed, and so their formula had to take that into account.  Thus was born the famous &#8220;Warp x = x^3.333333&#8230; * c, up to warp 9&#8243; formula that made it into the published ST:TNG Technical Manual.</p>
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		<title>By: The Ridger</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Ridger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s hilarious that you&#039;re going to &quot;try to avoid all the spoilers&quot; when you post them for Dr Who right and left...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s hilarious that you&#8217;re going to &#8220;try to avoid all the spoilers&#8221; when you post them for Dr Who right and left&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: justcorbly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-134950</link>
		<dc:creator>justcorbly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gagh&quot;, pronounced more or less like &quot;gaaaak,&quot; I believe, is a Klingon dish consisting of  raw serpent worms.  It is said the taste is so repellent that it is eaten for the pleasure of feeling the worms die in your mouth. Very Klingon, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gagh&#8221;, pronounced more or less like &#8220;gaaaak,&#8221; I believe, is a Klingon dish consisting of  raw serpent worms.  It is said the taste is so repellent that it is eaten for the pleasure of feeling the worms die in your mouth. Very Klingon, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s now on-line at startrek.com.  It looks way better than the bootlegged copies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s now on-line at startrek.com.  It looks way better than the bootlegged copies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Boyer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/16/trek-wreck/comment-page-2/#comment-134947</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;No, I don’t know what gaaaack means in Klingon.&lt;/i&gt;

You sure it is Klingon?  Sounds more like Martian (as in Mars Attacks!)  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>No, I don’t know what gaaaack means in Klingon.</i></p>
<p>You sure it is Klingon?  Sounds more like Martian (as in Mars Attacks!)  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: bjn</title>
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		<dc:creator>bjn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This conversation, gaaaack!

The trailer, gaaaack.

No, I don&#039;t know what gaaaack means in Klingon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This conversation, gaaaack!</p>
<p>The trailer, gaaaack.</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t know what gaaaack means in Klingon.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Boyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the late Akira Kurosowa directed the film...a Star Trek zombie film? With samurai?&lt;/i&gt;

Kurosawa&#039;s &quot;Drunken Angel&quot; (1948) and &quot;Stray Dog&quot; (1949) were superb examples of cinema-noir -- something that Trek flirted with a bit in TNG with Picard in the Holodeck.

You could even make a case for some of the aspects of BSG&#039;s having noir elements, and at times the show has certainly used the mood and lighting styles well to reinforce the &quot;grit&quot; that the plot was propelling.

It could be pretty darned interesting to have a dark noir-ish Trek adventure directed by the very much alive Ridley Scott or perhaps by the Cohen Brothers.   It might go against the grain of purists, but every universe has its dark places, even Star Trek&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the late Akira Kurosowa directed the film&#8230;a Star Trek zombie film? With samurai?</i></p>
<p>Kurosawa&#8217;s &#8220;Drunken Angel&#8221; (1948) and &#8220;Stray Dog&#8221; (1949) were superb examples of cinema-noir &#8212; something that Trek flirted with a bit in TNG with Picard in the Holodeck.</p>
<p>You could even make a case for some of the aspects of BSG&#8217;s having noir elements, and at times the show has certainly used the mood and lighting styles well to reinforce the &#8220;grit&#8221; that the plot was propelling.</p>
<p>It could be pretty darned interesting to have a dark noir-ish Trek adventure directed by the very much alive Ridley Scott or perhaps by the Cohen Brothers.   It might go against the grain of purists, but every universe has its dark places, even Star Trek&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;However, just think if someone like ... &lt;b&gt;the late&lt;/b&gt; Akira Kurosowa directed the film&lt;/i&gt;

So... a Star Trek zombie film? With samurai? And the zombies have phaser rifles. Actually, that&#039;s sounding sort of cool...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>However, just think if someone like &#8230; <b>the late</b> Akira Kurosowa directed the film</i></p>
<p>So&#8230; a Star Trek zombie film? With samurai? And the zombies have phaser rifles. Actually, that&#8217;s sounding sort of cool&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still think a Star Trek anthology show would be good. You do a story in a different part of the Trek universe each week. If any of the characters particularly resonate with the fans, you could do other stories with them. You have to be careful not to overdo any one set, though, or you wind up with an Erkel Singularity.

But who cares? There&#039;s a new season of Storm Chasers underway on the Discover Channel. Now that&#039;s how to mix science and action, people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still think a Star Trek anthology show would be good. You do a story in a different part of the Trek universe each week. If any of the characters particularly resonate with the fans, you could do other stories with them. You have to be careful not to overdo any one set, though, or you wind up with an Erkel Singularity.</p>
<p>But who cares? There&#8217;s a new season of Storm Chasers underway on the Discover Channel. Now that&#8217;s how to mix science and action, people!</p>
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		<title>By: JoeSmithCA</title>
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		<dc:creator>JoeSmithCA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad the Star Trek genre didn&#039;t sink so low or fade into obscurity that Uwe Boll is directing it. However, just think if someone like Quentin Tarantino, Mel Brooks, Wes Craven or the late Akira Kurosowa directed the film :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad the Star Trek genre didn&#8217;t sink so low or fade into obscurity that Uwe Boll is directing it. However, just think if someone like Quentin Tarantino, Mel Brooks, Wes Craven or the late Akira Kurosowa directed the film <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Charles Boyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Boyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett I think we&#039;re in agreement.  Sorry if I seemed like I was slagging something that in reality we all love. 

&lt;i&gt;If you want actual, hard sci-fi, go watch BSG.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, the two shows do have Ron D. Moore in common.  

1/16/09 is a national holiday around our house, because we&#039;ll be gathering around the plasma to find out just what is going to happen to the BSG folks who we last left standing on the smoldering ashes of Earth.

Just as May whatever will see the wife and going to the multiplex (or even better the IMAX) to see the ST movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett I think we&#8217;re in agreement.  Sorry if I seemed like I was slagging something that in reality we all love. </p>
<p><i>If you want actual, hard sci-fi, go watch BSG.</i></p>
<p>Well, the two shows do have Ron D. Moore in common.  </p>
<p>1/16/09 is a national holiday around our house, because we&#8217;ll be gathering around the plasma to find out just what is going to happen to the BSG folks who we last left standing on the smoldering ashes of Earth.</p>
<p>Just as May whatever will see the wife and going to the multiplex (or even better the IMAX) to see the ST movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Charles:

&quot;You have the wrong idea. I love Star Trek as much as anyone.&quot;

Gee, how could I possibly have gotten the wrong idea!  I mean, phrases like: 

&quot;Star Trek as science fiction has always bothered me, because not only is a lot of stuff completely implausible (transporter: meet Heisenger) the plots are ridiculous too&quot; 

couldn&#039;t possibly give the impression that you&#039;re just crapping of ST for the sake of it.  Right? :)

&quot;I just wish that they could have done a better job with the hard realities of physics&quot;

Meh, that was never what Trek was about, so I don&#039;t worry about it.  If you want actual, hard sci-fi, go watch BSG.

&quot;in some episodes the writers not been lazy storytellers and resolved plots by resorting to cheap tricks.&quot;

Yup, I wish every episode was perfect, too.  But they&#039;re not.  So I enjoy the good ones, bitch about the bad ones, and otherwise enjoy the show for what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Charles:</p>
<p>&#8220;You have the wrong idea. I love Star Trek as much as anyone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, how could I possibly have gotten the wrong idea!  I mean, phrases like: </p>
<p>&#8220;Star Trek as science fiction has always bothered me, because not only is a lot of stuff completely implausible (transporter: meet Heisenger) the plots are ridiculous too&#8221; </p>
<p>couldn&#8217;t possibly give the impression that you&#8217;re just crapping of ST for the sake of it.  Right? <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;I just wish that they could have done a better job with the hard realities of physics&#8221;</p>
<p>Meh, that was never what Trek was about, so I don&#8217;t worry about it.  If you want actual, hard sci-fi, go watch BSG.</p>
<p>&#8220;in some episodes the writers not been lazy storytellers and resolved plots by resorting to cheap tricks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup, I wish every episode was perfect, too.  But they&#8217;re not.  So I enjoy the good ones, bitch about the bad ones, and otherwise enjoy the show for what it is.</p>
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