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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Charlie in Dayton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137810</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie in Dayton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...wait...

...the BA was a BAND GEEK?????

...there may be gods after all...</description>
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<p>&#8230;the BA was a BAND GEEK?????</p>
<p>&#8230;there may be gods after all&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kitty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137469</link>
		<dc:creator>kitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 17:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do the same tradition at our table.  This year, was typical.  The focus is on others.  I said I was thankful for my husband who is always supportive, and I really appreciated how really wonderful he was.  The other couples at the table all pretty much said the same thing (well NOT that they were thankful for MY husband, but thankful for their spouse, and made  a few comments about the good qualities of the spouse and or boyfriend/girlfriend).

In a way I feel we rarely take the time to express how much we appreciate the people around us in our life.  Sure we made a good choice when we got married, or we lucked out with family (you can&#039;t choose your parents).  There is the old saying that Sherlock Holmes once used in a story, &quot;There but for the grace of God go I&quot;.  I think in all of us there is a sense &quot;boy I&#039;m lucky!&quot;  And in a sense saying &quot;hey I&#039;m grateful I&#039;ve got a job in this economy!&quot; is a way of taking time to appreciate your life instead of the seemingly year long focus on what you DON&#039;T have.  A simple dinner reflection on what IS good in your life is such a break from the whining we hear (and sometimes indulge in) all year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do the same tradition at our table.  This year, was typical.  The focus is on others.  I said I was thankful for my husband who is always supportive, and I really appreciated how really wonderful he was.  The other couples at the table all pretty much said the same thing (well NOT that they were thankful for MY husband, but thankful for their spouse, and made  a few comments about the good qualities of the spouse and or boyfriend/girlfriend).</p>
<p>In a way I feel we rarely take the time to express how much we appreciate the people around us in our life.  Sure we made a good choice when we got married, or we lucked out with family (you can&#8217;t choose your parents).  There is the old saying that Sherlock Holmes once used in a story, &#8220;There but for the grace of God go I&#8221;.  I think in all of us there is a sense &#8220;boy I&#8217;m lucky!&#8221;  And in a sense saying &#8220;hey I&#8217;m grateful I&#8217;ve got a job in this economy!&#8221; is a way of taking time to appreciate your life instead of the seemingly year long focus on what you DON&#8217;T have.  A simple dinner reflection on what IS good in your life is such a break from the whining we hear (and sometimes indulge in) all year.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hansen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137385</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 01:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fly, I tried using your directions but was unable to get the pages you mentioned. As Davidlpf suggested, put the link in the box marked &quot;Website&quot; when posting.

As David also mentioned, this wasn&#039;t covered up by CERN and it&#039;s old news. BA covered it somewhere on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fly, I tried using your directions but was unable to get the pages you mentioned. As Davidlpf suggested, put the link in the box marked &#8220;Website&#8221; when posting.</p>
<p>As David also mentioned, this wasn&#8217;t covered up by CERN and it&#8217;s old news. BA covered it somewhere on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaleberg</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137372</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaleberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giving thanks does not require a target, merely a thought and its expression, internal or external. If you express anger or joy, you don&#039;t have to express it to anyone or anything. In fact, you don&#039;t even have to be thankful for any particular thing. It is possible to experience and express an emotion completely in its own context. Since Thanksgiving is usually a communal event, one often expresses thanks aloud, and often with a particular focus. As the old joke goes at our non-vegetarian household, everyone has something to be thankful for, except the turkey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving thanks does not require a target, merely a thought and its expression, internal or external. If you express anger or joy, you don&#8217;t have to express it to anyone or anything. In fact, you don&#8217;t even have to be thankful for any particular thing. It is possible to experience and express an emotion completely in its own context. Since Thanksgiving is usually a communal event, one often expresses thanks aloud, and often with a particular focus. As the old joke goes at our non-vegetarian household, everyone has something to be thankful for, except the turkey.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidlpf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davidlpf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@fly CERN did not cover it up, second why can you not provide the link yourself. (If you do not want in moderation limbo just put in website anderneath where you put your email and it will appear in your name.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@fly CERN did not cover it up, second why can you not provide the link yourself. (If you do not want in moderation limbo just put in website anderneath where you put your email and it will appear in your name.)</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil --

You have indeed a valid point -- &quot;giving thanks&quot; implies thanking someone.  But it doesn&#039;t have to be a deity.  You got close when you thanked Randi for giving you the opportunity to be president of the foundation.

Here&#039;s my suggestion: give thanks to all that have enabled you (and not just You, Phil, but everyone) to be where you are today.  I thank my wife for sticking by me all these years, thank my parents for giving me the upbringing they did, my teachers (well, all but one or two) for giving me the education that enabled me to be what I am, etc.  No deity was involved in getting my life to where it was, but I AM thankful for all those that WERE involved in it.

And I also give thanks to Phil Plait for being who he is, a voice of reason in a very unreasonable world!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil &#8211;</p>
<p>You have indeed a valid point &#8212; &#8220;giving thanks&#8221; implies thanking someone.  But it doesn&#8217;t have to be a deity.  You got close when you thanked Randi for giving you the opportunity to be president of the foundation.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s my suggestion: give thanks to all that have enabled you (and not just You, Phil, but everyone) to be where you are today.  I thank my wife for sticking by me all these years, thank my parents for giving me the upbringing they did, my teachers (well, all but one or two) for giving me the education that enabled me to be what I am, etc.  No deity was involved in getting my life to where it was, but I AM thankful for all those that WERE involved in it.</p>
<p>And I also give thanks to Phil Plait for being who he is, a voice of reason in a very unreasonable world!</p>
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		<title>By: Mick</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137360</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, me, I don&#039;t mind that we don&#039;t have thanksgiving in my homecountry.  Not so much because I couldn&#039;t think of stuff I&#039;m happy with, but more because I&#039;m just not the type to wax over it.

And what about deeply unhappy people? Sounds pretty sadistic to put depressed people to a ritual of telling everyone how happy they are.

Nope, I could do without Thanksgiving. And indeed we don&#039;t have it around here, so suits me fine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, me, I don&#8217;t mind that we don&#8217;t have thanksgiving in my homecountry.  Not so much because I couldn&#8217;t think of stuff I&#8217;m happy with, but more because I&#8217;m just not the type to wax over it.</p>
<p>And what about deeply unhappy people? Sounds pretty sadistic to put depressed people to a ritual of telling everyone how happy they are.</p>
<p>Nope, I could do without Thanksgiving. And indeed we don&#8217;t have it around here, so suits me fine!</p>
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		<title>By: DrFlimmer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137303</link>
		<dc:creator>DrFlimmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to apologize for my previous post yesterday. Your post just annoyed me a bit, Phil, and in that mood I wrote my answer which went quite too far. So for that I am sorry!

But I still think that considering life just as a &quot;statistical error of quantum fluctuations&quot; ( ;) ) takes all of it what makes it good and adorable. Even if this is not entirely wrong in a scientific meaning, life is more than that - at least for me. 
Sometimes strange things happen. Something you did in the past (even not important to you) can come out in a nerver expected way in the future. Even the smallest choices we make influences the whole universe (which is literally correct) just like the butterfly effect. I don&#039;t think &quot;statistical fluctuations of quantum space&quot; are always the answer (but that&#039;s just me!!).

So, once more: Being thankful is nothing bad. I think being thankful is really something good - and probably there is something wrong with you if you cannot be thankful from time to time. 

&quot;I thank my family for their support, and my friends over the course of my life for shaping that life. I’m glad for the opportunities, but I’m thankful to the people. &quot;

That&#039;s right! Thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to apologize for my previous post yesterday. Your post just annoyed me a bit, Phil, and in that mood I wrote my answer which went quite too far. So for that I am sorry!</p>
<p>But I still think that considering life just as a &#8220;statistical error of quantum fluctuations&#8221; ( <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) takes all of it what makes it good and adorable. Even if this is not entirely wrong in a scientific meaning, life is more than that &#8211; at least for me.<br />
Sometimes strange things happen. Something you did in the past (even not important to you) can come out in a nerver expected way in the future. Even the smallest choices we make influences the whole universe (which is literally correct) just like the butterfly effect. I don&#8217;t think &#8220;statistical fluctuations of quantum space&#8221; are always the answer (but that&#8217;s just me!!).</p>
<p>So, once more: Being thankful is nothing bad. I think being thankful is really something good &#8211; and probably there is something wrong with you if you cannot be thankful from time to time. </p>
<p>&#8220;I thank my family for their support, and my friends over the course of my life for shaping that life. I’m glad for the opportunities, but I’m thankful to the people. &#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s right! Thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: RAM</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137298</link>
		<dc:creator>RAM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:33:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with whoever said this was your most uninspiring post yet

Maybe I&#039;m too metaphysically/spiritually inclined for you, but, I figure any thanks sent out from an emotional/mental agreement will somehow reach the appropriate recipient.

&amp; even if it doesn&#039;t it is good for the self just to send it out.

although I think your a bit too much of a hardcase, I do agree with most of what you say, most of the time.

Peace &amp; thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with whoever said this was your most uninspiring post yet</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m too metaphysically/spiritually inclined for you, but, I figure any thanks sent out from an emotional/mental agreement will somehow reach the appropriate recipient.</p>
<p>&#038; even if it doesn&#8217;t it is good for the self just to send it out.</p>
<p>although I think your a bit too much of a hardcase, I do agree with most of what you say, most of the time.</p>
<p>Peace &#038; thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Fly</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137293</link>
		<dc:creator>Fly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are new details on &quot;incident S-34&quot; emerging. Insider&#039;s estimates are for a 2010 repair (officially it&#039;s 2009 but insider&#039;s say 2010). 6 to 15 tonnes of liquid helium released into the tunnel.  20 steering magnets knocked off of their supports. A whole dipole interconnect destroyed. The hypothesis (stressed in the report) to the cause was a bad weld but the there is nothing left to prove it. 

Google &quot;News from the LHC&quot; click on the 2nd link at the CERN website. 

Go to part II &quot;Part II S34 Incident or …what you can do with 200 MJ&quot;

Amongst quotes:
&quot;Considerable collateral damage over few hundred metres&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are new details on &#8220;incident S-34&#8243; emerging. Insider&#8217;s estimates are for a 2010 repair (officially it&#8217;s 2009 but insider&#8217;s say 2010). 6 to 15 tonnes of liquid helium released into the tunnel.  20 steering magnets knocked off of their supports. A whole dipole interconnect destroyed. The hypothesis (stressed in the report) to the cause was a bad weld but the there is nothing left to prove it. </p>
<p>Google &#8220;News from the LHC&#8221; click on the 2nd link at the CERN website. </p>
<p>Go to part II &#8220;Part II S34 Incident or …what you can do with 200 MJ&#8221;</p>
<p>Amongst quotes:<br />
&#8220;Considerable collateral damage over few hundred metres&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: David D.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137287</link>
		<dc:creator>David D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of all the things I am thankful for on this most American of holidays, nothing surpasses the pride and gratitude I feel to live in a country where I may sit in this chair and write about whatever I damn well please, without fear of retribution or intimidation. It’s an amazing right.

Happy Thanksgiving!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of all the things I am thankful for on this most American of holidays, nothing surpasses the pride and gratitude I feel to live in a country where I may sit in this chair and write about whatever I damn well please, without fear of retribution or intimidation. It’s an amazing right.</p>
<p>Happy Thanksgiving!</p>
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		<title>By: Levi</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137285</link>
		<dc:creator>Levi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Phil, for reminding me that life is full of opportunities that need to be seized.

Today, I&#039;m not going to waste all my free time playing video games. I&#039;m going to go seize an opportunity I should have seized a long time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Phil, for reminding me that life is full of opportunities that need to be seized.</p>
<p>Today, I&#8217;m not going to waste all my free time playing video games. I&#8217;m going to go seize an opportunity I should have seized a long time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tanks,,,for the memories,,,

I&#039;d just like to say thanks for George W. Bush,,,if it hadn&#039;t been for his eight years of incompetence, we would likely never have aggravated enough white people to enable the election of an intelligent, compassionate multi-ethnic man to the White House. 

Now we&#039;re really rolling into the third millennium and it&#039;s largely because of George,,,

Thanks George!

Gary 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanks,,,for the memories,,,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d just like to say thanks for George W. Bush,,,if it hadn&#8217;t been for his eight years of incompetence, we would likely never have aggravated enough white people to enable the election of an intelligent, compassionate multi-ethnic man to the White House. </p>
<p>Now we&#8217;re really rolling into the third millennium and it&#8217;s largely because of George,,,</p>
<p>Thanks George!</p>
<p>Gary 7</p>
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		<title>By: Tressa</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137276</link>
		<dc:creator>Tressa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Phil.</description>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There doesn&#039;t have to be a deity involved in the &quot;thanking&quot; process.  If one is self-directed and involved in one&#039;s life actions in a meaningful and honest way, 0ne can simply be thankful, period.  There&#039;s no luck involved, no deities need to be bothered or awakened or supplicated. All you need for a good feeling of thanksgiving is a simple feeling of gratitude for the positive things one has achieved in life.  Heck, you can be grateful to yourself for handling your life as well as you have!  

Love the story about meeting your wife.  I&#039;ve often thought about the twists and turns of life that first bring us into contact with the people we know and love.  For me, I often think, &quot;what if my parents hadn&#039;t told me about that dance that the church group was having for teenagers?&quot;  

:)

Anyway, we spent yesterday being thankful for the many things we&#039;ve done in our lives and our ability to do what we do.  It felt completely natural to thank each other!  ;)

&lt;i&gt;Aside to Nigel -- back when I was on campus, we called all-black-clad students &quot;art majors.&quot;

(Our other favorite term was &quot;tragic freshmen.&quot;)&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There doesn&#8217;t have to be a deity involved in the &#8220;thanking&#8221; process.  If one is self-directed and involved in one&#8217;s life actions in a meaningful and honest way, 0ne can simply be thankful, period.  There&#8217;s no luck involved, no deities need to be bothered or awakened or supplicated. All you need for a good feeling of thanksgiving is a simple feeling of gratitude for the positive things one has achieved in life.  Heck, you can be grateful to yourself for handling your life as well as you have!  </p>
<p>Love the story about meeting your wife.  I&#8217;ve often thought about the twists and turns of life that first bring us into contact with the people we know and love.  For me, I often think, &#8220;what if my parents hadn&#8217;t told me about that dance that the church group was having for teenagers?&#8221;  </p>
<p> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Anyway, we spent yesterday being thankful for the many things we&#8217;ve done in our lives and our ability to do what we do.  It felt completely natural to thank each other!  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>Aside to Nigel &#8212; back when I was on campus, we called all-black-clad students &#8220;art majors.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Our other favorite term was &#8220;tragic freshmen.&#8221;)</i></p>
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		<title>By: G Hussein Kopy</title>
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		<dc:creator>G Hussein Kopy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Phil.  This was perhaps one of the most uninspiring Thanksgiving messages I ever read.

Hope you had a good one!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Phil.  This was perhaps one of the most uninspiring Thanksgiving messages I ever read.</p>
<p>Hope you had a good one!</p>
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		<title>By: saider72</title>
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		<dc:creator>saider72</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 13:18:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You analyze way too much. Can&#039;t you just be happy with your circumstances instead of reducing everything down to an equation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You analyze way too much. Can&#8217;t you just be happy with your circumstances instead of reducing everything down to an equation?</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137260</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, and thanks for the inspiring post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, and thanks for the inspiring post!</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137255</link>
		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah! Found it! &quot;Let&#039;s Be Frank&quot; by Brian Aldiss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah! Found it! &#8220;Let&#8217;s Be Frank&#8221; by Brian Aldiss.</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137254</link>
		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Thanksgiving, Phil! Eat well and rest up. We must begin our secular War On Christmas next week. ;-)

&lt;i&gt;Tell me that I am a one-in-a-million guy, for example, and I know reflexively there are 5999 more of me out there somewhere.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, I&#039;m one in a billion. There were five others of me, but I have already hunted them down and consumed their life energy.

Ever read a SF short story called &quot;Let&#039;s Be Frank&quot;? I can&#039;t recall the author, but it starts out with a guy, named Frank, looking at his newborn son, suddenly realizes he&#039;s looking up at himself as well. He and his son share the same consciousness. As the generations pass, this (sort of) hive mind expands and grows into millions, and then becomes aware of a female collective. I forget how it ends, though. I think the two eventually encompass all of humanity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Thanksgiving, Phil! Eat well and rest up. We must begin our secular War On Christmas next week. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>Tell me that I am a one-in-a-million guy, for example, and I know reflexively there are 5999 more of me out there somewhere.</i></p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m one in a billion. There were five others of me, but I have already hunted them down and consumed their life energy.</p>
<p>Ever read a SF short story called &#8220;Let&#8217;s Be Frank&#8221;? I can&#8217;t recall the author, but it starts out with a guy, named Frank, looking at his newborn son, suddenly realizes he&#8217;s looking up at himself as well. He and his son share the same consciousness. As the generations pass, this (sort of) hive mind expands and grows into millions, and then becomes aware of a female collective. I forget how it ends, though. I think the two eventually encompass all of humanity.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137247</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - this comes off as pretty grumpy. Here&#039;s something to be thankful for: you have a national holiday in your country to celebrate the opportunity to appreciate other people - one that&#039;s rooted not in some hokey religion but in a secular story. It doesn&#039;t celebrate some military victory, bloody revolution, or the birthday of a ruler. And it&#039;s dedicated to reminding you that sometimes it&#039;s nice to say &#039;thanks&#039; - it&#039;s almost like having a humanist national holiday.

Are you saying that the true, secular spirit of thanksgiving has been subverted with some pseudo-religious agenda of just being generally &#039;grateful&#039; to a particular deity? That&#039;s sad if it&#039;s the case. If I were you, I&#039;d be trying to start a secularist movement to reclaim thanksgiving... maybe we could arrange some sort of swap and give Christmas back in return?

I&#039;m British, and we don&#039;t have a day off. But I&#039;ll say thanks to you anyway for writing some interesting stuff. But for goodness sake, cheer up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; this comes off as pretty grumpy. Here&#8217;s something to be thankful for: you have a national holiday in your country to celebrate the opportunity to appreciate other people &#8211; one that&#8217;s rooted not in some hokey religion but in a secular story. It doesn&#8217;t celebrate some military victory, bloody revolution, or the birthday of a ruler. And it&#8217;s dedicated to reminding you that sometimes it&#8217;s nice to say &#8216;thanks&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s almost like having a humanist national holiday.</p>
<p>Are you saying that the true, secular spirit of thanksgiving has been subverted with some pseudo-religious agenda of just being generally &#8216;grateful&#8217; to a particular deity? That&#8217;s sad if it&#8217;s the case. If I were you, I&#8217;d be trying to start a secularist movement to reclaim thanksgiving&#8230; maybe we could arrange some sort of swap and give Christmas back in return?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m British, and we don&#8217;t have a day off. But I&#8217;ll say thanks to you anyway for writing some interesting stuff. But for goodness sake, cheer up.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Depledge</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137244</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Depledge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Hansen said:
&lt;blockquote&gt;@Davidlpf,
’twasn’t the turkey dinner that silenced Fly. CERN’s MIB caught up with him.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heehee!  Physics PhD students wearing black - when I was at Uni we called them &lt;i&gt;goths&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Hansen said:</p>
<blockquote><p>@Davidlpf,<br />
’twasn’t the turkey dinner that silenced Fly. CERN’s MIB caught up with him.</p></blockquote>
<p>Heehee!  Physics PhD students wearing black &#8211; when I was at Uni we called them <i>goths</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hansen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137235</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Hansen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 08:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Davidlpf,
&#039;twasn&#039;t the turkey dinner that silenced Fly. CERN&#039;s MIB caught up with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Davidlpf,<br />
&#8217;twasn&#8217;t the turkey dinner that silenced Fly. CERN&#8217;s MIB caught up with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Drumm The Astronomy Bum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137230</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Drumm The Astronomy Bum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 06:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil:
It looks like a little music might be in order on the next video! You should dust off the vest too!
A tie in with the sound waves &amp; light waves/particle duality or sumptin...
Your secret is otherwise safe here in Charlottesville. 
:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil:<br />
It looks like a little music might be in order on the next video! You should dust off the vest too!<br />
A tie in with the sound waves &#038; light waves/particle duality or sumptin&#8230;<br />
Your secret is otherwise safe here in Charlottesville.<br />
 <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/11/27/giving-thanks/comment-page-2/#comment-137229</link>
		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 05:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Dear Lord, thank you for this microwave bounty, even though we don&#039;t deserve it. I mean . . . our kids are uncontrollable hellions. Pardon my French, but they act like savages! Did you see them at the picnic? Of course you did; you&#039;re everywhere, you&#039;re omnivorous, O Lord! Why did you spite me with this family?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; -- Homer Simpson, saying grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Dear Lord, thank you for this microwave bounty, even though we don&#8217;t deserve it. I mean . . . our kids are uncontrollable hellions. Pardon my French, but they act like savages! Did you see them at the picnic? Of course you did; you&#8217;re everywhere, you&#8217;re omnivorous, O Lord! Why did you spite me with this family?&#8221;</i> &#8212; Homer Simpson, saying grace.</p>
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