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		<title>By: Jerilyn Gomoran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerilyn Gomoran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2010 23:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this concept. I visited your website for the first time and simply been your fan. Continue to keep posting as I am gonna come to read it everyday!!</description>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-3/#comment-193806</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 10:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN starting losing credibility with me in 2003, when I had an alphanumeric pager and decided to add &quot;CNN breaking news&quot; to my service.  The 2nd Iraq War had just started in March, and I was a little concerned when my pager went off in April, starting with the news item:
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ONE MONTH AGO, A MISSILE ALMOST HIT &lt;some target&gt;
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That doesn&#039;t match any journalistic definition of breaking news I&#039;m aware of. 
 
Just because a news organization didn&#039;t figure out something for a month doesn&#039;t make it breaking news a month later.

Now that Headline news has degraded from 30 minute news summaries to &quot;the nancy grace and robin mead&quot; network, I just tell my Tivo I don&#039;t even get that channel any more.  I sincerely hope Tivo provides this kind of information on user-initiated de-listings  (in bulk) to their upstream cable systems, but somehow I doubt they do.

If anyone can point me to an a la cart service where I can keep C-SPAN 1 and 2, I&#039;d be happy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN starting losing credibility with me in 2003, when I had an alphanumeric pager and decided to add &#8220;CNN breaking news&#8221; to my service.  The 2nd Iraq War had just started in March, and I was a little concerned when my pager went off in April, starting with the news item:<br />
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ONE MONTH AGO, A MISSILE ALMOST HIT <some target><br />
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That doesn&#8217;t match any journalistic definition of breaking news I&#8217;m aware of. </p>
<p>Just because a news organization didn&#8217;t figure out something for a month doesn&#8217;t make it breaking news a month later.</p>
<p>Now that Headline news has degraded from 30 minute news summaries to &#8220;the nancy grace and robin mead&#8221; network, I just tell my Tivo I don&#8217;t even get that channel any more.  I sincerely hope Tivo provides this kind of information on user-initiated de-listings  (in bulk) to their upstream cable systems, but somehow I doubt they do.</p>
<p>If anyone can point me to an a la cart service where I can keep C-SPAN 1 and 2, I&#8217;d be happy</some></p>
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		<title>By: Science and Journalism, Intersecting &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-3/#comment-166626</link>
		<dc:creator>Science and Journalism, Intersecting &#124; Cosmic Variance &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] newspapers are dying. CNN shut down its science division. The amount of real science journalism is shrinking dramatically, and any scientist who thinks [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chris Winter</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-3/#comment-159355</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Winter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 04:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I took a look at Glenn Beck&#039;s book a couple of months ago.  I noted this on pages 20-21:

&quot;How many times have you heard that CO2 is responsible for huge natural disasters that killed millions of people? The truth is, it&#039;s actually the other way around: As CO2 has increased, deaths from extreme weather have  decreased.&quot;

First, has anyone heard that about CO2? I never have.

Second, as CO2 has increased, monitoring of hurricanes and tornadoes has gotten better, as have building construction codes and disaster preparedness. Gee, could that be the reason for fewer deaths from extreme weather? Nothing to do with CO2 at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took a look at Glenn Beck&#8217;s book a couple of months ago.  I noted this on pages 20-21:</p>
<p>&#8220;How many times have you heard that CO2 is responsible for huge natural disasters that killed millions of people? The truth is, it&#8217;s actually the other way around: As CO2 has increased, deaths from extreme weather have  decreased.&#8221;</p>
<p>First, has anyone heard that about CO2? I never have.</p>
<p>Second, as CO2 has increased, monitoring of hurricanes and tornadoes has gotten better, as have building construction codes and disaster preparedness. Gee, could that be the reason for fewer deaths from extreme weather? Nothing to do with CO2 at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven L. Sanders</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-3/#comment-145525</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven L. Sanders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 04:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are going to give up Science on CNN?  Gee, why doesn&#039;t that surprise me?  You have been rerunning all the junk instead of keeping up with the news for a few years now, so you are as far behind as Ted Turner himself.  I live in Raton, NM, so I know more about Ted Turner than you might think.  But if you remove the science from your news, you might as well remove CNN as well, you have little to offer anyone anyway these days, and FSTV is getting more and more viewers everyday, and yes, I am one of them.  At least I get the truth there, instead of someones bleached-out version of it.  Well, go luck on the new plumbing business or whatever you guys will be into next, just remember you were told by a lot of us where this was going, so don&#039;t be too surprised when you get there, ok?  Say, &quot;hi&quot; to Glenn Beck when you arrive too, ok?              Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are going to give up Science on CNN?  Gee, why doesn&#8217;t that surprise me?  You have been rerunning all the junk instead of keeping up with the news for a few years now, so you are as far behind as Ted Turner himself.  I live in Raton, NM, so I know more about Ted Turner than you might think.  But if you remove the science from your news, you might as well remove CNN as well, you have little to offer anyone anyway these days, and FSTV is getting more and more viewers everyday, and yes, I am one of them.  At least I get the truth there, instead of someones bleached-out version of it.  Well, go luck on the new plumbing business or whatever you guys will be into next, just remember you were told by a lot of us where this was going, so don&#8217;t be too surprised when you get there, ok?  Say, &#8220;hi&#8221; to Glenn Beck when you arrive too, ok?              Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-139931</link>
		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here from a google page for Glenn Beck to see when he would start his new show, and I couldn&#039;t believe the nasty things being said about him in this blog and comments. The first time I listened to him, I was kind of wary. But the more I listened, the more I could see where he was coming from. I think the politically correct segments of our society have hurt us in the US, and I think he is a breath of fresh air. He certainly is courageous.

There are so many things we just don&#039;t discuss because they might offend someone, when the discussion just might be beneficial. I hate people being shouted down, and this blog and comments about Glenn Beck have amounted to a virtual and remote shout down. You only want to hear your point of view - everyone else must be too stupid to live. Get over yourselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here from a google page for Glenn Beck to see when he would start his new show, and I couldn&#8217;t believe the nasty things being said about him in this blog and comments. The first time I listened to him, I was kind of wary. But the more I listened, the more I could see where he was coming from. I think the politically correct segments of our society have hurt us in the US, and I think he is a breath of fresh air. He certainly is courageous.</p>
<p>There are so many things we just don&#8217;t discuss because they might offend someone, when the discussion just might be beneficial. I hate people being shouted down, and this blog and comments about Glenn Beck have amounted to a virtual and remote shout down. You only want to hear your point of view &#8211; everyone else must be too stupid to live. Get over yourselves!</p>
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		<title>By: Franko</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-139309</link>
		<dc:creator>Franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miles O&#039;Brien actually beleved Hansen and the ManBearPig ?
Seems like it. -- Charisma and the scientific smarts of Al Gore
Miles O&#039;Brien, please start a Blog, convince US; cooling is warming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles O&#8217;Brien actually beleved Hansen and the ManBearPig ?<br />
Seems like it. &#8212; Charisma and the scientific smarts of Al Gore<br />
Miles O&#8217;Brien, please start a Blog, convince US; cooling is warming</p>
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		<title>By: nycskeptic</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-139095</link>
		<dc:creator>nycskeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 00:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait...what?  I only made it through about half of the comments extolling the greatness of Mr. O&#039;Brien before having to finally say - are you kidding me?  Yes, he seemed relatively informed about some science stories like the shuttle and rover missions. Wait, as the science correspondent (since being bumped from the main desk) isn&#039;t that the only thing he has to do?? After the ufo special last week, how anyone can claim he is good for science education (or skepticism) is beyond me.  While he didn&#039;t come straight out and say he saw an alien ship he made it clear several times that he saw something that &quot;can&#039;t be explained&quot;.  Ugh!  With all of the wonderful scientists and skeptics and skeptical groups like Phil and the JREF and the NYC Skeptics (based two blocks from O&#039;Brien&#039;s Manhattan apartment) at his disposal, why couldn&#039;t he present a single skeptical alternative to the multitude of true believers he trotted before millions of viewers every morning?  He only mildly redeemed himself with one piece on SETI - but an entire segment on Roswell!?!?  How&#039;s that for breaking news!  I think the X-Files gave that whole nonsense a more balanced presentation. I thought I was having a flashback of some bad Unsolved Mysteries episode from the 80&#039;s  Robert Stack - now that was science journalism!  

Was he trying to save his job with a week-long tabloid fluff piece?  He should have gone out with a little class at least.  By the end of it, I was left wondering if Hoagland&#039;s voicemail was full, so they couldn&#039;t broadcast some of his ravings. 
To the end of cnn&#039;s science reporting, that&#039;s too bad but not unexpected.  As for Mr. O&#039;brien, good riddance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait&#8230;what?  I only made it through about half of the comments extolling the greatness of Mr. O&#8217;Brien before having to finally say &#8211; are you kidding me?  Yes, he seemed relatively informed about some science stories like the shuttle and rover missions. Wait, as the science correspondent (since being bumped from the main desk) isn&#8217;t that the only thing he has to do?? After the ufo special last week, how anyone can claim he is good for science education (or skepticism) is beyond me.  While he didn&#8217;t come straight out and say he saw an alien ship he made it clear several times that he saw something that &#8220;can&#8217;t be explained&#8221;.  Ugh!  With all of the wonderful scientists and skeptics and skeptical groups like Phil and the JREF and the NYC Skeptics (based two blocks from O&#8217;Brien&#8217;s Manhattan apartment) at his disposal, why couldn&#8217;t he present a single skeptical alternative to the multitude of true believers he trotted before millions of viewers every morning?  He only mildly redeemed himself with one piece on SETI &#8211; but an entire segment on Roswell!?!?  How&#8217;s that for breaking news!  I think the X-Files gave that whole nonsense a more balanced presentation. I thought I was having a flashback of some bad Unsolved Mysteries episode from the 80&#8242;s  Robert Stack &#8211; now that was science journalism!  </p>
<p>Was he trying to save his job with a week-long tabloid fluff piece?  He should have gone out with a little class at least.  By the end of it, I was left wondering if Hoagland&#8217;s voicemail was full, so they couldn&#8217;t broadcast some of his ravings.<br />
To the end of cnn&#8217;s science reporting, that&#8217;s too bad but not unexpected.  As for Mr. O&#8217;brien, good riddance.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffersonian</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138956</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffersonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Richard Says:
&quot;Sure enough, the Religion and Spirituality section had more than doubled what Science ever had.&quot;

I was reading that in times of economic growth, interest in knowledge and facts grows, vice versa in times of economic hardships where people turn to the mystical and supernatural and your discovery fits that model with Borders meeting those wants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard Says:<br />
&#8220;Sure enough, the Religion and Spirituality section had more than doubled what Science ever had.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was reading that in times of economic growth, interest in knowledge and facts grows, vice versa in times of economic hardships where people turn to the mystical and supernatural and your discovery fits that model with Borders meeting those wants.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffersonian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffersonian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tim in Seattle
&quot;Glenn predicted the economic disaster a year ago,&quot;
Since it was a chief issue of the 2004 election (given the continued cost of the war and ensuing debt to China), and that millions  of us saw it coming, that&#039;s not exactly impressive. In fact if he only figured it out a year ago, he&#039;s pretty dense for a news commentator.

&quot;criticized McCain’s policies and predicted is defeat over a year ago&quot;
With, say, 5 major candidates in a race, you can predict the failure of one of them with 80% odds of success. Easy.
I&#039;d be impressed with him if he ever ran retractions on all the **** he claims daily. But no, he just moves on to more falsehoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tim in Seattle<br />
&#8220;Glenn predicted the economic disaster a year ago,&#8221;<br />
Since it was a chief issue of the 2004 election (given the continued cost of the war and ensuing debt to China), and that millions  of us saw it coming, that&#8217;s not exactly impressive. In fact if he only figured it out a year ago, he&#8217;s pretty dense for a news commentator.</p>
<p>&#8220;criticized McCain’s policies and predicted is defeat over a year ago&#8221;<br />
With, say, 5 major candidates in a race, you can predict the failure of one of them with 80% odds of success. Easy.<br />
I&#8217;d be impressed with him if he ever ran retractions on all the **** he claims daily. But no, he just moves on to more falsehoods.</p>
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		<title>By: Starviking</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starviking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MDF

Not a AW&amp;ST reader per se - as a Japan-resident Brit I just haven&#039;t had the chance to read it much. Some of the AW Blogs are good - I hang out on the ARES blog there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MDF</p>
<p>Not a AW&#038;ST reader per se &#8211; as a Japan-resident Brit I just haven&#8217;t had the chance to read it much. Some of the AW Blogs are good &#8211; I hang out on the ARES blog there.</p>
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		<title>By: Franko</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138950</link>
		<dc:creator>Franko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 10:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miles O’Brien knows the skeletons in the scientists&#039; closets
Not a dog, but an unchained newshound, eating the oppotunity
After a rest, starting with guest appereances ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles O’Brien knows the skeletons in the scientists&#8217; closets<br />
Not a dog, but an unchained newshound, eating the oppotunity<br />
After a rest, starting with guest appereances ?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris A.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138939</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 06:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I have to retract my earlier post.  It was John Gibson who mocked Heath Ledger&#039;s death, not Glenn Beck.  I apologize for the mistake.

But Beck&#039;s still a tool, as has been amply demonstrated by others&#039; posts here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I have to retract my earlier post.  It was John Gibson who mocked Heath Ledger&#8217;s death, not Glenn Beck.  I apologize for the mistake.</p>
<p>But Beck&#8217;s still a tool, as has been amply demonstrated by others&#8217; posts here.</p>
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		<title>By: Los medios empiezan a recortar por lo que menos les importa: la Ciencia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Los medios empiezan a recortar por lo que menos les importa: la Ciencia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 05:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] de noticias científicas se verá notablemente reducida. Sin embargo, como dicen en Bad Astronomy (blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stu/) la gente pide más noticias sobre Ciencia, no [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] de noticias científicas se verá notablemente reducida. Sin embargo, como dicen en Bad Astronomy (blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stu/) la gente pide más noticias sobre Ciencia, no [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Wilcox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138922</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Wilcox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think too much is being made of this. CNN is just one component of a much larger news conglomerate called TimesWarner that is trying to cut down to core competencies.  This is similar to what they have done in the past - in particular in the past year. 

For example - they killed an entire network - CNNFN. They still do finance news. And there is even a pretty major finance section on cnn.com. Which actually links to other TW magazines (like Inc or Forbes). I imagine that will be the same as with Sci/Tech.

They will still cover any major sci/tech news - just won&#039;t have anyone working in CNN Center every day on sci/tech stories.

But given then plethora of tv choices plus Internet-media, there are plenty of options.

And if you want sci-tech stuff to get more attention - then make better product and get good at communicating the message (e.g. marketing and pr).

The &quot;woo&quot; gets more attention because they make better product and really understand the marketing/PR side of the business. That is something the &quot;non-woo&quot; crowd must get better at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think too much is being made of this. CNN is just one component of a much larger news conglomerate called TimesWarner that is trying to cut down to core competencies.  This is similar to what they have done in the past &#8211; in particular in the past year. </p>
<p>For example &#8211; they killed an entire network &#8211; CNNFN. They still do finance news. And there is even a pretty major finance section on cnn.com. Which actually links to other TW magazines (like Inc or Forbes). I imagine that will be the same as with Sci/Tech.</p>
<p>They will still cover any major sci/tech news &#8211; just won&#8217;t have anyone working in CNN Center every day on sci/tech stories.</p>
<p>But given then plethora of tv choices plus Internet-media, there are plenty of options.</p>
<p>And if you want sci-tech stuff to get more attention &#8211; then make better product and get good at communicating the message (e.g. marketing and pr).</p>
<p>The &#8220;woo&#8221; gets more attention because they make better product and really understand the marketing/PR side of the business. That is something the &#8220;non-woo&#8221; crowd must get better at.</p>
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		<title>By: John Benac</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138915</link>
		<dc:creator>John Benac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNN cans Miles because you don&#039;t let CNN accountants know that you care about space and technology. 

http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?39

That&#039;s where you go to tell the network directly what poor choices they are making. Put up or shut up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN cans Miles because you don&#8217;t let CNN accountants know that you care about space and technology. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?39" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form1.html?39</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s where you go to tell the network directly what poor choices they are making. Put up or shut up!</p>
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		<title>By: Negatron</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138914</link>
		<dc:creator>Negatron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 03:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truthspeaker,

Did you look at the links Phil provided? duh...

btw Phil, 

The second link takes me to the Vonnegut thread. 

&quot;busy, busy, busy...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthspeaker,</p>
<p>Did you look at the links Phil provided? duh&#8230;</p>
<p>btw Phil, </p>
<p>The second link takes me to the Vonnegut thread. </p>
<p>&#8220;busy, busy, busy&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The same kind of situation cropped up at the local Borders. A year ago, there was at least 10 feet of shelving for science books. I was always enthralled wondering if I&#039;ll get another Stephen Jay Gould book, or maybe something from Michio Kaku.

This year, I stepped on over to the science section and saw that it was now little more than 4 feet. I had a bad feeling that if I turned around that I&#039;d see something equally disturbing.

Sure enough, the Religion and Spirituality section had more than doubled what Science ever had.

I was severely disappointed by all of this. Sham books about &quot;the other side&quot; got better reception than the latest discoveries from Nature herself.

Just, totally sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The same kind of situation cropped up at the local Borders. A year ago, there was at least 10 feet of shelving for science books. I was always enthralled wondering if I&#8217;ll get another Stephen Jay Gould book, or maybe something from Michio Kaku.</p>
<p>This year, I stepped on over to the science section and saw that it was now little more than 4 feet. I had a bad feeling that if I turned around that I&#8217;d see something equally disturbing.</p>
<p>Sure enough, the Religion and Spirituality section had more than doubled what Science ever had.</p>
<p>I was severely disappointed by all of this. Sham books about &#8220;the other side&#8221; got better reception than the latest discoveries from Nature herself.</p>
<p>Just, totally sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Radwaste</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138901</link>
		<dc:creator>Radwaste</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 02:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys, don&#039;t forget that the network guys suck, too. I just watched some idiot state with horror that a bank sponsoring a ritzy art show was &lt;i&gt;actually seeking new clients&lt;/i&gt;. The nerve!

Hey, newspeople! How come you don&#039;t seem to hire anyone who knows anything? There are hundreds of underemployed actors who know more than your writers do about any subject. Just go ask them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys, don&#8217;t forget that the network guys suck, too. I just watched some idiot state with horror that a bank sponsoring a ritzy art show was <i>actually seeking new clients</i>. The nerve!</p>
<p>Hey, newspeople! How come you don&#8217;t seem to hire anyone who knows anything? There are hundreds of underemployed actors who know more than your writers do about any subject. Just go ask them!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael L</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138865</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 00:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truthspeaker:
You want evidence Beck is does not know what he&#039;s talking about?

Here&#039;s  proof:
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/04/beck-inhofe-bears/

Here:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200804110006

And here:  (I remember being shocked when I saw this on his show)
http://crooksandliars.com/node/21607

Now, if you would be so kind as to provide proof that Glenn Beck is a competent journalist with even the slightest understanding of current events, please, let us know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truthspeaker:<br />
You want evidence Beck is does not know what he&#8217;s talking about?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s  proof:<br />
<a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/04/beck-inhofe-bears/" rel="nofollow">http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/04/beck-inhofe-bears/</a></p>
<p>Here:<br />
<a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200804110006" rel="nofollow">http://mediamatters.org/items/200804110006</a></p>
<p>And here:  (I remember being shocked when I saw this on his show)<br />
<a href="http://crooksandliars.com/node/21607" rel="nofollow">http://crooksandliars.com/node/21607</a></p>
<p>Now, if you would be so kind as to provide proof that Glenn Beck is a competent journalist with even the slightest understanding of current events, please, let us know.</p>
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		<title>By: changcho</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138855</link>
		<dc:creator>changcho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BYe bye CNN, you&#039;re going down the toilet and I&#039;m not following...And yes, G. Beck was an irrational loudmouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BYe bye CNN, you&#8217;re going down the toilet and I&#8217;m not following&#8230;And yes, G. Beck was an irrational loudmouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Plait</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138848</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Plait</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Glenn Beck&#039;s lack of rationality is self-evident, but if you want evidence, try &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/10/26/glenn-beck-idiot/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; or &lt;a href=http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/11/30/glenn-beck-multitasking-tool/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Glenn Beck&#8217;s lack of rationality is self-evident, but if you want evidence, try <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/10/26/glenn-beck-idiot/" rel="nofollow">here</a> or <a href=http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2007/11/30/glenn-beck-multitasking-tool/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138845</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Tim and Truthspeaker.  If you are going to call someone loudmouthed and know nothing, it&#039;s pretty poor form to do it with no evidence or reasoning.  It sort of makes you seem like a loudmouthed know nothing.  

Shawn Stein is worse -- calling him a bigot without providing a reason.  That truly makes Shawn Stein the bigot (i.e., a person who firmly holds to blind opinions without caring about supporting reasons).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Tim and Truthspeaker.  If you are going to call someone loudmouthed and know nothing, it&#8217;s pretty poor form to do it with no evidence or reasoning.  It sort of makes you seem like a loudmouthed know nothing.  </p>
<p>Shawn Stein is worse &#8212; calling him a bigot without providing a reason.  That truly makes Shawn Stein the bigot (i.e., a person who firmly holds to blind opinions without caring about supporting reasons).</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSpeaker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138842</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSpeaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my earlier post I made the skeptical, scientific, and rational request for evidence of BA&#039;s statement that, &quot;…that loudmouth know-nothing Glenn Beck…”

As I type this reply, the evidence I have recieved includes...

From Tacitus: &quot;Then I submit about 1,000 hours of video tape of just about every show he made for CNN during his tenure there. He may have the gift of the gab, but every time he uses his gab is proof that he is a know-nothing.&quot;

From Michael L: &quot;Just watch his show…&quot;

--Way to go providing actual evidence rather than just broad generalizations.  Isn&#039;t that what we criticize the &quot;psychics&quot; and others for doing?

Good job skeptics :-(



From Michael L: &quot;Just watch his show…&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my earlier post I made the skeptical, scientific, and rational request for evidence of BA&#8217;s statement that, &#8220;…that loudmouth know-nothing Glenn Beck…”</p>
<p>As I type this reply, the evidence I have recieved includes&#8230;</p>
<p>From Tacitus: &#8220;Then I submit about 1,000 hours of video tape of just about every show he made for CNN during his tenure there. He may have the gift of the gab, but every time he uses his gab is proof that he is a know-nothing.&#8221;</p>
<p>From Michael L: &#8220;Just watch his show…&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8211;Way to go providing actual evidence rather than just broad generalizations.  Isn&#8217;t that what we criticize the &#8220;psychics&#8221; and others for doing?</p>
<p>Good job skeptics <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>From Michael L: &#8220;Just watch his show…&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Shelton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/03/cnn-catches-the-stupid/comment-page-2/#comment-138840</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Shelton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ll defend the self-made, intelligent, articulate, wise, and caring Glenn Beck like he’s family. How many people will say that about you, huh?&quot; - Tim in Seattle

More than you think, buddy. Beck has made more idiotic comments than wise ones. The ones you mentioned are probably the entire list of intelligent comments he has made. A broken (analog) clock is right twice a day. Beck&#039;s social commentaries are moronic and bigoted. It&#039;s like Ben Stein, I&#039;m sure he&#039;s a brilliant guy as far as his field goes, but I don&#039;t avoid calling him a complete jackass because I&#039;m afraid that doesn&#039;t apply to his economics expertise.

Dr. Plait knows we got his back. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ll defend the self-made, intelligent, articulate, wise, and caring Glenn Beck like he’s family. How many people will say that about you, huh?&#8221; &#8211; Tim in Seattle</p>
<p>More than you think, buddy. Beck has made more idiotic comments than wise ones. The ones you mentioned are probably the entire list of intelligent comments he has made. A broken (analog) clock is right twice a day. Beck&#8217;s social commentaries are moronic and bigoted. It&#8217;s like Ben Stein, I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s a brilliant guy as far as his field goes, but I don&#8217;t avoid calling him a complete jackass because I&#8217;m afraid that doesn&#8217;t apply to his economics expertise.</p>
<p>Dr. Plait knows we got his back. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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