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	<title>Comments on: MASSIVE WANT</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Jim Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/10/massive-want/comment-page-1/#comment-142230</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, jess tauber;  
     Morbius might have survived as a disembodied entity, depending on how long it took him to die before the boom.. The reptile brain has a very strong survival urge.  And the Krell did colonize the galaxy; they just changed their name to &quot;Q&quot;.

    Why was the self-destruct switch so handy/vulnerable?  The Krell were much too rational to let the urge to &quot;press the RED BUTTON&quot; express itself;  and if I were building the Machine, I&#039;d have wanted my &#039;kill switch&#039; handy.  The Krell used a different value for &#039;handy&#039;.

     Just my two groats worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, jess tauber;<br />
     Morbius might have survived as a disembodied entity, depending on how long it took him to die before the boom.. The reptile brain has a very strong survival urge.  And the Krell did colonize the galaxy; they just changed their name to &#8220;Q&#8221;.</p>
<p>    Why was the self-destruct switch so handy/vulnerable?  The Krell were much too rational to let the urge to &#8220;press the RED BUTTON&#8221; express itself;  and if I were building the Machine, I&#8217;d have wanted my &#8216;kill switch&#8217; handy.  The Krell used a different value for &#8216;handy&#8217;.</p>
<p>     Just my two groats worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Beaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Beaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 16:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Be cautious. I just watched an episode of Big Bang Theory where the guys bought a Time Machine prop that turned out to be full sized. Make sure you have enough room in your garage for a full-sized flying saucer *before* you order.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Be cautious. I just watched an episode of Big Bang Theory where the guys bought a Time Machine prop that turned out to be full sized. Make sure you have enough room in your garage for a full-sized flying saucer *before* you order.</p>
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		<title>By: jess tauber</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/10/massive-want/comment-page-1/#comment-140399</link>
		<dc:creator>jess tauber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually,  I would like to see prequel and sequel to Forbidden Planet. The story of Morbius and the discovery of the Krell would make for great drama. As for a follow-up are we SHURE Morbius is entirely dead? We didn&#039;t see the planet blow up (just a lot of light- probably a gamma ray burst from the reactors overloading!)- maybe Morbius read the specs wrong (and WHY THE HELL did the Krell keep a self-destruct mechanism uncovered and within arm&#039;s or tentacles-reach of their kids being brain-tested???? Or was that part of the test....

I envision that Altaira and her new hubby had kids, got divorced, got grandkids, and that one of them has gone missing, after going back to the Altair system to look around.  Just a question- why don&#039;t the Krell have colonies elsewhere- or did they...?

Now with J. Michael Straczynski rewriting the story, I&#039;m pretty sure the answer is....the Krell are really Vorlons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually,  I would like to see prequel and sequel to Forbidden Planet. The story of Morbius and the discovery of the Krell would make for great drama. As for a follow-up are we SHURE Morbius is entirely dead? We didn&#8217;t see the planet blow up (just a lot of light- probably a gamma ray burst from the reactors overloading!)- maybe Morbius read the specs wrong (and WHY THE HELL did the Krell keep a self-destruct mechanism uncovered and within arm&#8217;s or tentacles-reach of their kids being brain-tested???? Or was that part of the test&#8230;.</p>
<p>I envision that Altaira and her new hubby had kids, got divorced, got grandkids, and that one of them has gone missing, after going back to the Altair system to look around.  Just a question- why don&#8217;t the Krell have colonies elsewhere- or did they&#8230;?</p>
<p>Now with J. Michael Straczynski rewriting the story, I&#8217;m pretty sure the answer is&#8230;.the Krell are really Vorlons!</p>
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		<title>By: Sili</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/10/massive-want/comment-page-1/#comment-140297</link>
		<dc:creator>Sili</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the STAR OF BETHLEHEM! The &#039;Wise Men&#039; were little green aliens!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the STAR OF BETHLEHEM! The &#8216;Wise Men&#8217; were little green aliens!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary Ansorge Says: &quot;A remake of Forbidden Planet could be really cool. The original proposition, that our ancient,reptilian hind brain, with its pure survival drives, could manifest itself as a monster if given the techno facilities to do so, is still a viable idea...Many story possibilities there.&quot;

Way to keep the ol&#039; optimism up! I&#039;m willing to give it a chance, but after Spielberg&#039;s WotW and the TDTESS remake (I&#039;m cringing for tomorrow&#039;s impending release) I don&#039;t have high hopes.

Your proposed story line seems way too intelligent and rational. Not much room for gun play, car chases and explosions.

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary Ansorge Says: &#8220;A remake of Forbidden Planet could be really cool. The original proposition, that our ancient,reptilian hind brain, with its pure survival drives, could manifest itself as a monster if given the techno facilities to do so, is still a viable idea&#8230;Many story possibilities there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Way to keep the ol&#8217; optimism up! I&#8217;m willing to give it a chance, but after Spielberg&#8217;s WotW and the TDTESS remake (I&#8217;m cringing for tomorrow&#8217;s impending release) I don&#8217;t have high hopes.</p>
<p>Your proposed story line seems way too intelligent and rational. Not much room for gun play, car chases and explosions.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gopher65 Says: &quot;I watched The Forbidden Planet is my Shakespeare Lit class in grade 12 some years ago (it’s a scifi version of The Tempest).&quot;

Then you will be especially interested in the &quot;Epilog&quot; of the FP chapter. I actually interviewed a Shakespeare scholar on this, and what he had to say was interesting.

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gopher65 Says: &#8220;I watched The Forbidden Planet is my Shakespeare Lit class in grade 12 some years ago (it’s a scifi version of The Tempest).&#8221;</p>
<p>Then you will be especially interested in the &#8220;Epilog&#8221; of the FP chapter. I actually interviewed a Shakespeare scholar on this, and what he had to say was interesting.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: RoaldFalcon</title>
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		<dc:creator>RoaldFalcon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really have anything to add to this discussion except to say that Forbidden Planet totally rocks! Growing up, that was one of my favorite video disks.</description>
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		<title>By: Gary Ansorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Ansorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A remake of Forbidden Planet could be really cool. The original proposition, that our ancient,reptilian hind brain, with its pure survival drives, could manifest itself as a monster if given the techno facilities to do so, is still a viable idea.
 I note that the remake of Day the Earth Stood Still seems to be concentrating on how bad humans are for the environment. When will we see a movie that exposes how successful species become the formative feed stock for a myriad of new species, over running the entire eco-system, as the earliest mammals did when the dinosaurs went belly up. We(humans) MIGHT cause the extinction of 50 % of the life forms on this planet, but that would then lead to human descendants assuming the eco-niche functionality of those displaced species, ie, as new species with big brains and opposable thumbs, doing what species do, competing/co-operating to survive.

Many story possibilities there,,,

GAry 7</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A remake of Forbidden Planet could be really cool. The original proposition, that our ancient,reptilian hind brain, with its pure survival drives, could manifest itself as a monster if given the techno facilities to do so, is still a viable idea.<br />
 I note that the remake of Day the Earth Stood Still seems to be concentrating on how bad humans are for the environment. When will we see a movie that exposes how successful species become the formative feed stock for a myriad of new species, over running the entire eco-system, as the earliest mammals did when the dinosaurs went belly up. We(humans) MIGHT cause the extinction of 50 % of the life forms on this planet, but that would then lead to human descendants assuming the eco-niche functionality of those displaced species, ie, as new species with big brains and opposable thumbs, doing what species do, competing/co-operating to survive.</p>
<p>Many story possibilities there,,,</p>
<p>GAry 7</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Hart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Hart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You fool!  As though your ape&#039;s brain could contain the secrets of the Krell!</description>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This movie has always been one of my favorites. The special effect of the monster in the disintegration beams is still the coolest thing ever to see, especially when it first starts to take form and you only see the eyes. Even if they remake this I&#039;m not sure they can recapture that coolness with new special effects. 

I would LOVE to have that ship!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This movie has always been one of my favorites. The special effect of the monster in the disintegration beams is still the coolest thing ever to see, especially when it first starts to take form and you only see the eyes. Even if they remake this I&#8217;m not sure they can recapture that coolness with new special effects. </p>
<p>I would LOVE to have that ship!</p>
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		<title>By: tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>while I won&#039;t be bidding on this, knowing the model is still out there really brightens my day. I had fallen for the myth that it had been destroyed for the TZ ep &quot;Invaders&quot;. Thanks for the clarification, Jack Hagerty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while I won&#8217;t be bidding on this, knowing the model is still out there really brightens my day. I had fallen for the myth that it had been destroyed for the TZ ep &#8220;Invaders&#8221;. Thanks for the clarification, Jack Hagerty.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A remake of Forbidden Planet? Discuss....

http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/10/31/j-michael-straczynski-to-write-forbidden-planet-remake/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A remake of Forbidden Planet? Discuss&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/10/31/j-michael-straczynski-to-write-forbidden-planet-remake/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/10/31/j-michael-straczynski-to-write-forbidden-planet-remake/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm, I meant &quot;krell brain&quot;, sorry &#039;bout that.</description>
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		<title>By: Lars</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I googled &quot;krell gate&quot;. This post was result #4. Big Broogle is watching you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I googled &#8220;krell gate&#8221;. This post was result #4. Big Broogle is watching you.</p>
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		<title>By: Naked Bunny with a Whip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naked Bunny with a Whip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;you can visit the shop and make your own.&lt;/i&gt;

Hrrrm.  I guess I&#039;m missing the joke.   :-\</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>you can visit the shop and make your own.</i></p>
<p>Hrrrm.  I guess I&#8217;m missing the joke.   :-\</p>
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		<title>By: Spiv</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That sure perked up my nerdy little ears. FP is still my favorite classic sci-fi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sure perked up my nerdy little ears. FP is still my favorite classic sci-fi.</p>
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		<title>By: gopher65</title>
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		<dc:creator>gopher65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched The Forbidden Planet is my Shakespeare Lit class in grade 12 some years ago (it&#039;s a scifi version of The Tempest). I was amazed that that movie was made in the 50s The look and feel of it are a good 10-15 years more advanced than the 50s movies I have suffered through in the past. It&#039;s an impressive piece of work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched The Forbidden Planet is my Shakespeare Lit class in grade 12 some years ago (it&#8217;s a scifi version of The Tempest). I was amazed that that movie was made in the 50s The look and feel of it are a good 10-15 years more advanced than the 50s movies I have suffered through in the past. It&#8217;s an impressive piece of work.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/10/massive-want/comment-page-1/#comment-140145</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Says: &quot;I’d be more interested in Robbie.&quot;

Then buy my book! (Hmmm, I sense a trend here).

I go into considerable detail on Robbie&#039;s design, fabrication, operation and some examples of how Asimov&#039;s three laws were used in developing his &quot;personality.&quot;  I also do some tracing of his career after FP.

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Says: &#8220;I’d be more interested in Robbie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then buy my book! (Hmmm, I sense a trend here).</p>
<p>I go into considerable detail on Robbie&#8217;s design, fabrication, operation and some examples of how Asimov&#8217;s three laws were used in developing his &#8220;personality.&#8221;  I also do some tracing of his career after FP.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/10/massive-want/comment-page-1/#comment-140144</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chip Says: &quot;Jack Hagerty - thanks for the info!&quot;

My pleasure.

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chip Says: &#8220;Jack Hagerty &#8211; thanks for the info!&#8221;</p>
<p>My pleasure.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chip Says: &quot;MGM’s prop department might have made several. One was destroyed (or altered to look destroyed) for a now classic Twilight Zone episode, “The Invaders” (1961). (The one where Agnes Moorhead plays a remote, silent country woman battling little “aliens”.)&quot;

The saucer props and/or sets were actually used in seven TZ episodes. In addition to &quot;The Invaders,&quot; it was in &quot;Third from the Sun,&quot; the very end of &quot;The Monsters are Due on Maple Street&quot; (flying away upside down!), &quot;To Serve Man&quot; (which also used Harryhausen&#039;s saucers from &quot;Earth vs. the Flying Saucers&quot;), &quot;Hocus Pocus and Frisby,&quot; plus the one hour episodes &quot;Death Ship&quot; and &quot;On Thursday We Leave for Home.&quot; 

Most of these just used saucer footage from FP along with the full sized set (TZ was filmed at MGM so the set was still available). Only &quot;The Invaders&quot; and &quot;Death Ship&quot; used the miniature saucer props. In the former it was the 88&quot; model with the legs and pylon, and the latter used the 44&quot; version that landed by bumping directly down on the lower dome and took off with a huge rocket exhaust plume emanating from the bottom!

BTW, the saucer that Agnes Moorhead hacks up at the end of &quot;The Invaders&quot; was a wooden stand-in.

- Jack</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chip Says: &#8220;MGM’s prop department might have made several. One was destroyed (or altered to look destroyed) for a now classic Twilight Zone episode, “The Invaders” (1961). (The one where Agnes Moorhead plays a remote, silent country woman battling little “aliens”.)&#8221;</p>
<p>The saucer props and/or sets were actually used in seven TZ episodes. In addition to &#8220;The Invaders,&#8221; it was in &#8220;Third from the Sun,&#8221; the very end of &#8220;The Monsters are Due on Maple Street&#8221; (flying away upside down!), &#8220;To Serve Man&#8221; (which also used Harryhausen&#8217;s saucers from &#8220;Earth vs. the Flying Saucers&#8221;), &#8220;Hocus Pocus and Frisby,&#8221; plus the one hour episodes &#8220;Death Ship&#8221; and &#8220;On Thursday We Leave for Home.&#8221; </p>
<p>Most of these just used saucer footage from FP along with the full sized set (TZ was filmed at MGM so the set was still available). Only &#8220;The Invaders&#8221; and &#8220;Death Ship&#8221; used the miniature saucer props. In the former it was the 88&#8243; model with the legs and pylon, and the latter used the 44&#8243; version that landed by bumping directly down on the lower dome and took off with a huge rocket exhaust plume emanating from the bottom!</p>
<p>BTW, the saucer that Agnes Moorhead hacks up at the end of &#8220;The Invaders&#8221; was a wooden stand-in.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
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		<title>By: Quiet Desperation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quiet Desperation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 07:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the $100K to loan you. I&#039;m *not* kidding. If you are willing to pay 7% interest, we have a deal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the $100K to loan you. I&#8217;m *not* kidding. If you are willing to pay 7% interest, we have a deal.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 06:59:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be more interested in Robbie.</description>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. Jack Hagerty  - thanks for the info!</description>
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		<title>By: Chip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Hagerty might know the history of this beautiful ship. I hope he adds a comment. MGM&#039;s prop department might have made several. One was destroyed (or altered to look destroyed) for a now classic Twilight Zone episode, &quot;The Invaders&quot; (1961). (The one where Agnes Moorehead plays a remote, silent country woman battling little &quot;aliens&quot;.) *

* Yes, I now have earned entry into the first level of &quot;The Hall of Geeks&quot;.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Hagerty might know the history of this beautiful ship. I hope he adds a comment. MGM&#8217;s prop department might have made several. One was destroyed (or altered to look destroyed) for a now classic Twilight Zone episode, &#8220;The Invaders&#8221; (1961). (The one where Agnes Moorehead plays a remote, silent country woman battling little &#8220;aliens&#8221;.) *</p>
<p>* Yes, I now have earned entry into the first level of &#8220;The Hall of Geeks&#8221;.  <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jack Hagerty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Hagerty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 05:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SHOOT!

Why do these things aways pop up after the book has gone to press? I&#039;ve been looking all over for the whereabouts of that prop.

I&#039;d like to know the history of his ownership.  If that is really the legitimate model, the asking price seems about right.

There were three props of the saucer made, a 20&quot; diameter for long shots (such as it banking over Altair IV), a 44&quot; diameter for medium shots and an 88&quot; version for closeups. Only the largest version had the landing legs and pylon. I notice that the article says it&#039;s 82&quot;, but that&#039;s close enough for a first pass. The medium and large models were also used in tandem to make a shot seem longer than it was.

The 20&quot; version has been owned by collector Wes Shank since the early &#039;90s. The medium one is owned by uber-fan Bill Malone (who also owns the original Robby, the Astrogator base, several blasters, Krell power gauges and force field fence posts).  The last anyone knew, the 88&quot; prop was owned by a museum in Harrisburg, PA, but that went out of business about 10 years ago and no one knew what happened to it after that. I&#039;m quite certain that they would have sold it for much more than the $150 the article mentions.

I interviewed Malone for the book at WorldCon in &#039;06 (he took my picture holding one of the original blaster pistols!), and talked to collector Bob Burns (who owns Klaatu&#039;s saucer prop) about where the 88&quot; prop was. Neither of them knew, but if this guy was as big a collector as the article makes out, then Bob would know him.  It&#039;s entirely possible that this is a re-creation or an early test version. There were two of Klaatu&#039;s saucer props made, the first one as a casting test (they were made of fiberglass). Bob Burns owns the actual filming model, and the casting test is periodically on display at the Universal museum in Florida.

Let&#039;s just say I&#039;m skeptical that this is the actual filming prop. A quick way to tell is if the legs are hinged and motorized.

- Jack

PS - Since you brought it up, Phil, I&#039;d like to point out that &quot;The Saucer Fleet&quot; is available for pre-order at $10 off the cover price. Just click on my name above if you&#039;re interested. Delivery should be right around New Years. Even if you don&#039;t want to buy one now, BA blogees will get 15% off (roughly the same as $10 off) after the book goes to full price on 1 January.</description>
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<p>Why do these things aways pop up after the book has gone to press? I&#8217;ve been looking all over for the whereabouts of that prop.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to know the history of his ownership.  If that is really the legitimate model, the asking price seems about right.</p>
<p>There were three props of the saucer made, a 20&#8243; diameter for long shots (such as it banking over Altair IV), a 44&#8243; diameter for medium shots and an 88&#8243; version for closeups. Only the largest version had the landing legs and pylon. I notice that the article says it&#8217;s 82&#8243;, but that&#8217;s close enough for a first pass. The medium and large models were also used in tandem to make a shot seem longer than it was.</p>
<p>The 20&#8243; version has been owned by collector Wes Shank since the early &#8217;90s. The medium one is owned by uber-fan Bill Malone (who also owns the original Robby, the Astrogator base, several blasters, Krell power gauges and force field fence posts).  The last anyone knew, the 88&#8243; prop was owned by a museum in Harrisburg, PA, but that went out of business about 10 years ago and no one knew what happened to it after that. I&#8217;m quite certain that they would have sold it for much more than the $150 the article mentions.</p>
<p>I interviewed Malone for the book at WorldCon in &#8217;06 (he took my picture holding one of the original blaster pistols!), and talked to collector Bob Burns (who owns Klaatu&#8217;s saucer prop) about where the 88&#8243; prop was. Neither of them knew, but if this guy was as big a collector as the article makes out, then Bob would know him.  It&#8217;s entirely possible that this is a re-creation or an early test version. There were two of Klaatu&#8217;s saucer props made, the first one as a casting test (they were made of fiberglass). Bob Burns owns the actual filming model, and the casting test is periodically on display at the Universal museum in Florida.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just say I&#8217;m skeptical that this is the actual filming prop. A quick way to tell is if the legs are hinged and motorized.</p>
<p>- Jack</p>
<p>PS &#8211; Since you brought it up, Phil, I&#8217;d like to point out that &#8220;The Saucer Fleet&#8221; is available for pre-order at $10 off the cover price. Just click on my name above if you&#8217;re interested. Delivery should be right around New Years. Even if you don&#8217;t want to buy one now, BA blogees will get 15% off (roughly the same as $10 off) after the book goes to full price on 1 January.</p>
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