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	<title>Comments on: NASA&#8217;s Griffin butting heads with Obama?</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Griffin&#8217;s wife pleads for his job &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/11/nasas-griffin-butting-heads-with-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-144714</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Griffin&#8217;s wife pleads for his job &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 23:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve said before, I&#8217;m ambivalent about Griffin. He&#8217;s done some good things and some bad things. His tendency to wildly spin stories bugs me [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I&#8217;ve said before, I&#8217;m ambivalent about Griffin. He&#8217;s done some good things and some bad things. His tendency to wildly spin stories bugs me [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please define &quot;strong, vigorous, and healthy.&quot; -- it depends what you think NASA is FOR. We can afford to postponeMan-Moon-Mars: Americans went to the Moon 12 times from the nineteen-SIXTIES: we have nothing to prove as far as manned spaceflight is concerned. But we cannot afford to see our Earth Observation programs struggle. &quot;The future of humanity is in space.&quot; -- maybe, in maybe 200 years. Uh, what planet are you living on? Oh yeah, Earth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please define &#8220;strong, vigorous, and healthy.&#8221; &#8212; it depends what you think NASA is FOR. We can afford to postponeMan-Moon-Mars: Americans went to the Moon 12 times from the nineteen-SIXTIES: we have nothing to prove as far as manned spaceflight is concerned. But we cannot afford to see our Earth Observation programs struggle. &#8220;The future of humanity is in space.&#8221; &#8212; maybe, in maybe 200 years. Uh, what planet are you living on? Oh yeah, Earth.</p>
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		<title>By: Is Obama going to gut NASA? &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/11/nasas-griffin-butting-heads-with-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-142168</link>
		<dc:creator>Is Obama going to gut NASA? &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Then came rumors that NASA chief Mike Griffin was giving Obama&#8217;s NASA transition team a lot of static. Griffin denounced those rumors, but that doesn&#8217;t do much in real life to dispel them; denials never do. And so the whispers still exist that Constellation may suffer cuts, drastic or otherwise. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Then came rumors that NASA chief Mike Griffin was giving Obama&#8217;s NASA transition team a lot of static. Griffin denounced those rumors, but that doesn&#8217;t do much in real life to dispel them; denials never do. And so the whispers still exist that Constellation may suffer cuts, drastic or otherwise. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: stas peterson</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/11/nasas-griffin-butting-heads-with-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-141090</link>
		<dc:creator>stas peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am constantly amazed as all these idiots who think anti-Science clods like &quot;YEA God!&quot; college major, AlGore, have any conception of real Science, and is in for a rude awakening.   Likewise Obama is nothing but a legal whore, who has no scientific background at all.  But like the Gore, he can preach a great sermon.

Anyone who maintains belief in the noveau religious incantations about AGW, or the faked science of Dr. Who Suk of Korea, and his politically correct, faked &quot;stem cell research&quot; and supports it, like these idiots do, reveals their basic anti-rational thinking.  

It shows that they have absolutely no scientific background or any inclination to rational thought. And the willingness to accept evidence that reveals previous data and theories must be scrapped in the light of new evidence, is totally foregn to them. Else why would they support the xconstantly proven erroneous theories of 1860s era, failed economist Karl Marx?  

Gore would I&#039;m sure, rather believe in the Fred Hoyle&#039;s Good Old Time Steady State Universe. That&#039;s assuming he even knows the difference or distinction that Gamow and Hoyle debated, or who they even were. He makes a Saint, of Dr. Ravelle, the only guy to ever give him a passing grade (a D!), in a Science course; and then totally discredits Dr. Ravelle&#039;s every thought and teaching.

These two genuine clods reveal they would rather worship at the altar of wrong theory as long as they have their Good Old Time Science (pseudo-Religion).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am constantly amazed as all these idiots who think anti-Science clods like &#8220;YEA God!&#8221; college major, AlGore, have any conception of real Science, and is in for a rude awakening.   Likewise Obama is nothing but a legal whore, who has no scientific background at all.  But like the Gore, he can preach a great sermon.</p>
<p>Anyone who maintains belief in the noveau religious incantations about AGW, or the faked science of Dr. Who Suk of Korea, and his politically correct, faked &#8220;stem cell research&#8221; and supports it, like these idiots do, reveals their basic anti-rational thinking.  </p>
<p>It shows that they have absolutely no scientific background or any inclination to rational thought. And the willingness to accept evidence that reveals previous data and theories must be scrapped in the light of new evidence, is totally foregn to them. Else why would they support the xconstantly proven erroneous theories of 1860s era, failed economist Karl Marx?  </p>
<p>Gore would I&#8217;m sure, rather believe in the Fred Hoyle&#8217;s Good Old Time Steady State Universe. That&#8217;s assuming he even knows the difference or distinction that Gamow and Hoyle debated, or who they even were. He makes a Saint, of Dr. Ravelle, the only guy to ever give him a passing grade (a D!), in a Science course; and then totally discredits Dr. Ravelle&#8217;s every thought and teaching.</p>
<p>These two genuine clods reveal they would rather worship at the altar of wrong theory as long as they have their Good Old Time Science (pseudo-Religion).</p>
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		<title>By: NASA Head Griffin Reportedly Hostile Towards Obama Team - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/11/nasas-griffin-butting-heads-with-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-140683</link>
		<dc:creator>NASA Head Griffin Reportedly Hostile Towards Obama Team - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] report what was said, instead of taking a juicy line and running off with it.    Yes, well, BA apparently has a couple of issues with Griffin besides the current dust up or his comments about ... And expecting the mass media to be able to accurately get something as complex as the space program [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] report what was said, instead of taking a juicy line and running off with it.    Yes, well, BA apparently has a couple of issues with Griffin besides the current dust up or his comments about &#8230; And expecting the mass media to be able to accurately get something as complex as the space program [...]</p>
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		<title>By: T.E.L.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/11/nasas-griffin-butting-heads-with-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-140590</link>
		<dc:creator>T.E.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 20:19:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve: Are you insinuating that Hubble had some ulterior agenda? Why would that be? When was the secret agenda supposed to be carried out? By this I mean that the telescope&#039;s time has been occupied by less then secret users since it was put on orbit. If there was need of a secret space telescope, why not just put one up secretly? The existence of spysats isn&#039;t controversial. It&#039;s just a fact. Hubble would just be redundant, and not very freely available for such a mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: Are you insinuating that Hubble had some ulterior agenda? Why would that be? When was the secret agenda supposed to be carried out? By this I mean that the telescope&#8217;s time has been occupied by less then secret users since it was put on orbit. If there was need of a secret space telescope, why not just put one up secretly? The existence of spysats isn&#8217;t controversial. It&#8217;s just a fact. Hubble would just be redundant, and not very freely available for such a mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Huntwork</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Huntwork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:49:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ccpetersen:

&quot;the full story was released. several of us have written about it.&quot;

Some of us were on the &quot;inside&quot; and knew what had happened.

Question:  Why was the original Hubble software written in ADA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ccpetersen:</p>
<p>&#8220;the full story was released. several of us have written about it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Some of us were on the &#8220;inside&#8221; and knew what had happened.</p>
<p>Question:  Why was the original Hubble software written in ADA?</p>
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