This is so painfully untrue that anything else you say is immediately suspect. If you think otherwise, perhaps you’d care to explain what you mean to the hundreds of millions of people who have died from smallpox. Or cancer. Or AIDS. Or any of thousands of other illnesses which eventually do us in.

But given your rambling treatise above — which violates my one commenting rule, by the way — I suspect you are impervious to reason, no matter how basic and clear it may be.

Oh and the blog I’m commenting on doesn’t offer any evidence. Quoting the CDC or any other monster fraudsters isn’t evidence. The USDA by law says you can’t cure, treat or prevent any disease without drugs or surgery. Well I cut my finger and it heals all by itself, I must be breaking the law. I was diagnosed hypothyroidistic ten years ago. I refused medication, changed my habits(mostly diet) and wow, I’m no longer diseased. Again, my body broke the law. WAKE UP PEOPLE!!! Your being lied to by your Obamacare advisors. Enjoy your socialism you lazy sheeple.

Thank you for the link. I am curious, though, where that information came from, as it is not the official product labeling registered with the FDA. It may include unofficial information gather by people outside of the product manufacturer or FDA, which may or may not be causally linked to the product.

As Adrian Lopez mentions, by law, product manufacturers must reports any adverse event feedback they receive in relation to their product, whether it is actually resulting from the product or not. So there may be adverse reactions that occur subsequent to administration of the product but are not caused at all by the vaccine. Also, with a “vaccines cause autism” atmosphere, many people are likely to report X, Y or Z vaccine as causing their child’s autism.

Also, I would like to know where you get your data that the risks of complications from vaccines are higher than the risks of complications from the diseases they prevent. According to the CDC, the risks of adverse events from vaccines are significantly lower than risk from preventable diseases.

That said, some people are more susceptible to harm from vaccines than others, and I would question the medical staff administering the vaccines, rather than the vaccines themselves. It sounds as if your child may have shown signs that, according to the labeling for Tripedia, would contraindicate the vaccine for him. I admire your efforts to get people to educate themselves and read the vaccine product labeling, but I still question your strong anti-vaccine tones.

Vaccines do have risks. In general, those risks are low, while the benefits of the vaccines are quite high, for both the recipient and those who come in contact with the recipient. The documentation accompanying the vaccines are very thorough about what those risks are, and when the vaccine should not be administered. It seems like a lot of situations where children do suffer harm, it is after the medical staff (nurse, physician, pediatrician) ignored signs of a bad reaction.

As to the research, there still is no quality research that causally links vaccines directly to autism.

I feel for you and your family, and I hope the best for you. Do you have any Applied Behavior Aanalysis programs in your area? I’ve seen firsthand the benefits of such programs started early on.

“Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting. Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.” [http://www.rxlist.com/tripedia-drug.htm]

The key sentence is this: “Because these events are reported voluntarily from a population of uncertain size, it is not always possible to reliably estimate their frequencies or to establish a causal relationship to components of Tripedia vaccine.”

People who think their kid has developed autism because of exposure to Tripedia will report it as such, whether or not it is true.

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I sustained partial hearing loss from just one vaccine in 2007 – the rubella which was given to me after delivery. So, the vaccine can cause the same injuries (your risk of injuries are far greater from the vaccine than the disease though) that the disease can and hearing loss is listed as a side effect to many vaccines. My baby endured high-pitched screaming off/on for 3 days after his 2 & 4 mo. vaccines. I did call both times and was told this is quite “normal”. I now know that “normal” means it happens frequently to many children. It is also indictative of brain swelling. Like a fool I had my child vaccinated again at 6 mo. and he endured partial seizures (head to toe spasms with eyes rolling back). It was then that his doctor was alerted to his reactions with all three rounds (the nurses never told her??) and she informed me that his risks outweigh his benefits at this time. He is now on the Autism spectrum and I blame the vaccines after what I saw. To read my entire story – I have 3 more victims I’ve learned….go to http://vaccinesexposed.blogspot.com

My family will never receive another vaccine again and I will continue to educate others to spare them the pain that I’ve had to go through.

I took a look at the label for Tripedia on the FDA web site, but I did not see autism listed anywhere in it. Could you point me to which page it is on?

What kind of injuries did you and your baby suffer?

Mandatory education? Yes!

GAry 7
PS. In all my travels around the globe, I’ve been repeatedly vaccinated against,,,well, just about everything. Wouldn’t you know, the one I wasn’t able to be Vaccinated against(malaria) would be the one I caught?
Bummer!

Oh, and I live in Florida, so I am very familiar with what happens when insurance companies are faced with actually honoring their contracts; they whine until the taxpayers are forced to pay their debts.

Costs are public, but somehow the profit remains private.

“Swden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, … and the list goes on and on.”

RIGHT. I should have clarified: “Show me that the AMERICAN government can simply keep track of its own spending, much less… blah blah blah…”

No offense intended. I’ve never lived in any of those countries, so I cannot speak to the quality of life or the cost of living over there vs. living in the US. I am perfectly content living where I am. I have a nice house, a great job, all the necessities of life, and I live in arguably one of the best cities in the country. If the only thing I have to complain about is my own government (of the people) spending my tax money unwisely, I think I have it pretty good.

“Last time I checked, I could by a few plasma TVs a year with what my family of 3 spends on Insurance. “

How much would your medical, dental, and prescription drugs cost if you did not have insurance? More importantly, what is your family’s health worth to you? You chose to have children, right? Can you afford it? Aren’t you and your family worth more than a few plasma TVs?

Several years ago, my medical insurance was less than $50 per month, but my deductible was $2,000. Until I spent two thousand dollars on medical costs, my insurance covered nothing. My choices were: A) Live a healthy lifestyle and never get injured, 2) or B) Pay the cost for medical treatment out of pocket, C) or 3) get a better job that had better health benefits/ shop around for a better insurance plan, and finally D) or 4) save enough money so that if indeed a medical emergency occurred, I could pay for it.

Let’s take another example that everyone in the United States understands: Car Insurance. The sole purpose of auto insurance is to 1) Cover the damages to the other persons and property if you are at fault, and 2) Cover the damages to your own person and property if you are at fault, or if the other driver is uninsured. Coverage 1 is mandated by many states in the US, but coverage 2 is optional. If auto insurance mandated by the state is so dang important, why isn’t it covered by state tax? Answer: Owning and driving a car is a choice.

I guess the real question is: Is medical care a choice?

Last time I checked, I could by a few plasma TVs a year with what my family of 3 spends on Insurance. We’ve also had about $600 in out of pocket expenses. While I don’t have the exact numbers, I’ve also seen multiple studies that show the tax increase from socialized healthcare would be less than most families currently pay for insurance. Anti-Vaxxers and Anti-Healthcare advocates share one common trait. Ignorance.

“post hoc ergo propter hoc”- I’m gonna have to bone up on my Latin if I’m gonna keep hanging around here…

From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latin_phrases_(full)#P

It’s “after this, therefore because of this”. Or as the notes give for this entry, “A logical fallacy where one assumes that one thing happening after another thing means that the first thing caused the second.”

George

http://www.immunise.health.gov.au/internet/immunise/publishing.nsf/Content/parents

While that sounds good in theory, in practice, its not so easy. Show me that the government can simply keep track of its own spending, much less maintain a program

Swden, Norway, Finland, Denmark, … and the list goes on and on.

It can be made to work, quite easily even, despite the occasional hiccup, mostly in the form of long queue times; but if it’s worth the money, potential death and harm from possible time wasted waiting (statistics shows it’s not a large problem AFAIU), et cetera is another matter which I don’t intend to go into here.

Here is a copy of it if anyone is interested: http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ddp7nf4k_83fk3xj9cg

This brings up a good point that adults should make sure they’re immunized and *still* immunized. Sure I worry about my son, but the concept of heard immunity is immunization of the group en-total not just children.

@Phil
Thanks for the info. The Red Alert series was going down hill now I’m definitly not going invest my money on the game. I’ll bring the pro-vax fight to the gaming forums