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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Someone</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/19/peek-a-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-142801</link>
		<dc:creator>Someone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s the output from the JPL&#039;s Solar System Simulator for the same date and time:

http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=599&amp;vbody=399&amp;month=4&amp;day=9&amp;year=2007&amp;hour=14&amp;minute=00&amp;rfov=120&amp;fovmul=-1&amp;bfov=50&amp;porbs=1&amp;brite=1

That is Jupiter as seen from Earth on April 9th, 2007 at 14:00 UTC (I don&#039;t know when the data was recorded by Hubble, but based on the simulator output, it must have been around that time.)

For Algirdas, and other people wondering about the &quot;poodle spinning about about the elephant&#039;s ankles&quot;, remember that the axis of both Earth and Jupiter are inclined with respect to the ecliptic. The JPL simulator output displays a line along Ganymede&#039;s orbit, which makes the effect of the axial tilt quite clear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the output from the JPL&#8217;s Solar System Simulator for the same date and time:</p>
<p><a href="http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=599&#038;vbody=399&#038;month=4&#038;day=9&#038;year=2007&#038;hour=14&#038;minute=00&#038;rfov=120&#038;fovmul=-1&#038;bfov=50&#038;porbs=1&#038;brite=1" rel="nofollow">http://space.jpl.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/wspace?tbody=599&#038;vbody=399&#038;month=4&#038;day=9&#038;year=2007&#038;hour=14&#038;minute=00&#038;rfov=120&#038;fovmul=-1&#038;bfov=50&#038;porbs=1&#038;brite=1</a></p>
<p>That is Jupiter as seen from Earth on April 9th, 2007 at 14:00 UTC (I don&#8217;t know when the data was recorded by Hubble, but based on the simulator output, it must have been around that time.)</p>
<p>For Algirdas, and other people wondering about the &#8220;poodle spinning about about the elephant&#8217;s ankles&#8221;, remember that the axis of both Earth and Jupiter are inclined with respect to the ecliptic. The JPL simulator output displays a line along Ganymede&#8217;s orbit, which makes the effect of the axial tilt quite clear.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/19/peek-a-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-142313</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry about the double post yesterday folks - afraid I was in a hurry &amp; unsure if the first one had gone through .. :-( 

But can anyone answer my questions please : 

1) Which is the solar system&#039;s largest moon - Ganymede or Titan? 
(Various sources keep saying one or the other but still not sure which.)

2) Is the answer to (1) affected by whether or not you count Titan&#039;s atmosphere? 

&amp; 

3) Does density  / mass make a difference here? Ie. is Ganymede larger but Titan more massive or vice-versa? 

Answers anybody? Please?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry about the double post yesterday folks &#8211; afraid I was in a hurry &#038; unsure if the first one had gone through .. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>But can anyone answer my questions please : </p>
<p>1) Which is the solar system&#8217;s largest moon &#8211; Ganymede or Titan?<br />
(Various sources keep saying one or the other but still not sure which.)</p>
<p>2) Is the answer to (1) affected by whether or not you count Titan&#8217;s atmosphere? </p>
<p>&#038; </p>
<p>3) Does density  / mass make a difference here? Ie. is Ganymede larger but Titan more massive or vice-versa? </p>
<p>Answers anybody? Please?</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/19/peek-a-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-142282</link>
		<dc:creator>Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got it from the HST site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got it from the HST site.</p>
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		<title>By: Nemo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/19/peek-a-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-142243</link>
		<dc:creator>Nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 00:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only get the video to say &quot;Playback of this video failed. Please try again later.&quot; :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only get the video to say &#8220;Playback of this video failed. Please try again later.&#8221; <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mitrax</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/19/peek-a-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-142234</link>
		<dc:creator>mitrax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Science Pundit,

I must admit i wasn&#039;t familiar with what Ganymede looked like before seeing the video, what i mistakenly saw as a specular highlight (as in, light reflected from a light source to the viewer on a shiny surface) is indeed a large whitish spot on the moon that i can now see on other pictures. DUH
Thanks a lot for your explanation, it makes perfect sense, it&#039;s just that, &#039;intuitively&#039; speaking (for someone who really doesn&#039;t know much about astronomy / astrophotography) the video felt fake... a good example of how one can fool himself when he doesn&#039;t know much about something!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Science Pundit,</p>
<p>I must admit i wasn&#8217;t familiar with what Ganymede looked like before seeing the video, what i mistakenly saw as a specular highlight (as in, light reflected from a light source to the viewer on a shiny surface) is indeed a large whitish spot on the moon that i can now see on other pictures. DUH<br />
Thanks a lot for your explanation, it makes perfect sense, it&#8217;s just that, &#8216;intuitively&#8217; speaking (for someone who really doesn&#8217;t know much about astronomy / astrophotography) the video felt fake&#8230; a good example of how one can fool himself when he doesn&#8217;t know much about something!</p>
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		<title>By: The Science Pundit</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/19/peek-a-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-142178</link>
		<dc:creator>The Science Pundit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 19:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mitrax,

I&#039;m not sure what you mean by this &lt;i&gt;highlight&lt;/i&gt; that looks fake.  I thought it looked pretty much like every &lt;a href=&quot;http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/Ganymede_g1_true.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;other photo&lt;/a&gt; of Ganymede I&#039;ve seen.

As for it not changing, let&#039;s do some math.  First, remember that Ganymede--just like Earth&#039;s moon--is tidally locked to the planet it orbits.  In other words, Ganymede always shows the same face to Jupiter.  In &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; other words, its orbital period of 171.75 hours is also its rotational period.  The video was compiled from pictures shot over a 2 hour period.  Ganymede appears in about 14 seconds of that 18 second video (I was too lazy to get an exact frame count for the moon), meaning that we&#039;re seeing Ganymede for (14/18)*2hours = 1.6 hours (roughly).  Since Ganymede&#039;s rotational period is about 172 hours, what you are seeing in the video, is about 0.9% of Ganymede&#039;s rotation.

Do you really think that you would be able to see a less than 1% rotation?  (&lt;b&gt;hint:&lt;/b&gt; In the high definition video, Ganymede&#039;s diameter is only 50 pixels.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mitrax,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you mean by this <i>highlight</i> that looks fake.  I thought it looked pretty much like every <a href="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2e/Ganymede_g1_true.jpg" rel="nofollow">other photo</a> of Ganymede I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>As for it not changing, let&#8217;s do some math.  First, remember that Ganymede&#8211;just like Earth&#8217;s moon&#8211;is tidally locked to the planet it orbits.  In other words, Ganymede always shows the same face to Jupiter.  In <i>other</i> other words, its orbital period of 171.75 hours is also its rotational period.  The video was compiled from pictures shot over a 2 hour period.  Ganymede appears in about 14 seconds of that 18 second video (I was too lazy to get an exact frame count for the moon), meaning that we&#8217;re seeing Ganymede for (14/18)*2hours = 1.6 hours (roughly).  Since Ganymede&#8217;s rotational period is about 172 hours, what you are seeing in the video, is about 0.9% of Ganymede&#8217;s rotation.</p>
<p>Do you really think that you would be able to see a less than 1% rotation?  (<b>hint:</b> In the high definition video, Ganymede&#8217;s diameter is only 50 pixels.)</p>
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		<title>By: mitrax</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitrax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*my* impressions (i don&#039;t pretend to be right, and i&#039;m certainly no expert):

this looks totally fake to me. I already got the feeling that something was wrong when looking at the picture in a previous post, but it&#039;s even more obvious in the movie: what&#039;s that specular higlight showing up on Ganymede ??? (it looks like a marble ball...)  
when you look at the HD version you can see Jupiter spinning (rather quickly) yet ganymede doesn&#039;t change *AT ALL* except for the translation motion.
To me this look like something made in 5 minutes with 3D studio or Maya, wouldn&#039;t be surprised if it turns out to be an hoax.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*my* impressions (i don&#8217;t pretend to be right, and i&#8217;m certainly no expert):</p>
<p>this looks totally fake to me. I already got the feeling that something was wrong when looking at the picture in a previous post, but it&#8217;s even more obvious in the movie: what&#8217;s that specular higlight showing up on Ganymede ??? (it looks like a marble ball&#8230;)<br />
when you look at the HD version you can see Jupiter spinning (rather quickly) yet ganymede doesn&#8217;t change *AT ALL* except for the translation motion.<br />
To me this look like something made in 5 minutes with 3D studio or Maya, wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if it turns out to be an hoax.</p>
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