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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Doc</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/26/suing-science/comment-page-1/#comment-143823</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 15:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Knurl

At least one scientist says that the &quot;Activator Method&quot; is bunk.

http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/activator.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Knurl</p>
<p>At least one scientist says that the &#8220;Activator Method&#8221; is bunk.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/activator.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chirobase.org/06DD/activator.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: kuhnigget</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/26/suing-science/comment-page-1/#comment-143691</link>
		<dc:creator>kuhnigget</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 15:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Groucho &lt;i&gt;Marx Bros. At the Circus&lt;/i&gt; 40:15: &lt;/b&gt; I have an agreement with the houseflies. The flies don&#039;t practice law and I don&#039; t walk on the ceiling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Groucho <i>Marx Bros. At the Circus</i> 40:15: </b> I have an agreement with the houseflies. The flies don&#8217;t practice law and I don&#8217; t walk on the ceiling.</p>
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		<title>By: Rev. I. P. Freeley</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/26/suing-science/comment-page-1/#comment-143687</link>
		<dc:creator>Rev. I. P. Freeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 13:53:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Luke 11:45&lt;/b&gt; Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto him, Master, thus saying thou reproachest us also.  

&lt;b&gt;Luke 11:46&lt;/b&gt; And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.  

&lt;b&gt;Luke 11:47&lt;/b&gt; Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Luke 11:45</b> Then answered one of the lawyers, and said unto him, Master, thus saying thou reproachest us also.  </p>
<p><b>Luke 11:46</b> And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.  </p>
<p><b>Luke 11:47</b> Woe unto you! for ye build the sepulchres of the prophets, and your fathers killed them.</p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/26/suing-science/comment-page-1/#comment-143682</link>
		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@&lt;b&gt;Gary Ansorge&lt;/b&gt; 

&lt;i&gt;&quot;&lt;b&gt;ccpetersen&lt;/b&gt; : The only “magic” cure for excess weight I know of is,,,starvation,,,works like a champ,,,until the famine ends,,,&quot; 

Amputation? The more weight you want to lose the more body parts you lop off? Kinda drastic cure though! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@<b>Gary Ansorge</b> </p>
<p><i>&#8220;<b>ccpetersen</b> : The only “magic” cure for excess weight I know of is,,,starvation,,,works like a champ,,,until the famine ends,,,&#8221; </p>
<p>Amputation? The more weight you want to lose the more body parts you lop off? Kinda drastic cure though! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </i></p>
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		<title>By: StevoR</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevoR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 12:41:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm ... Maybe there&#039;s something to Shakespeares line saying : 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Kill all the lawyers!&quot;&lt;/em&gt; ;-)

A funny list of weird and sometimes plain dumb cases - mostly anyway. 

OTOH I can&#039;t help wishing that legal action had prevented, say the A-Bomb ever coming into existence ... to name one example. 

Seems sometimes science&#039;s job is to come up with more and more horrible ways of killing more people .. 

&lt;i&gt;(Eg. depleted uranmium shells, landmines, aerial bombardment, specialised stronger-sharper swords, seige towers, napalm, H-Bombs, neutron bombs, trebuchets, grenades, ad nauseam ..)&lt;/i&gt;

While the law &amp; politics is there to protect us from these scientific inventions. :-( &lt;i&gt;(Eg. SALT treaty, anti-landmine treaty, United Nations -hasn&#039;t that worked well - not!, anti-nuclear weapons treaty,anti-biological &amp; chemical weapons treaty, ad nauseam ..) &lt;/i&gt;

Moreover, if something threatens to destroy &lt;b&gt;the *entire* planet&lt;/b&gt; like say hypothetically the LHC or maybe one of its successor atom-smashers &lt;i&gt;(Yeah I know we keep hearing that it won&#039;t &amp; yes, odds are 99.999 % likely that it won&#039;t too - but some folks still fear it will ..) &lt;/i&gt; then why should legal action to prevent it be restricted to only one nation? 

If some mad experiment thingy &lt;i&gt; (not specifically saying the LHC just in general) &lt;/i&gt; hypothetically threatens to kill everyone on Earth .. Then  I reckon anyone, anywhere - in fact *every*body , *everywhere*, ought tobe able to take whatever action is needed &lt;i&gt;(pref. non-violent but)&lt;/i&gt; incl. legal action to stop the mad experiment. 

Coz Planet Earth is kinda in *all* our jurisdictions! ;-)

Yes, science is fantastic and, yes, we all benefit from it - but I would also have to say it is a double-edged sword witha downside too and needs careful handling as well.

So while these cases are dumb examples of suing science &amp;  worth laughing at - legal action against certain types of science is perhaps justifiable under some circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm &#8230; Maybe there&#8217;s something to Shakespeares line saying : </p>
<p><em>&#8220;Kill all the lawyers!&#8221;</em> <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>A funny list of weird and sometimes plain dumb cases &#8211; mostly anyway. </p>
<p>OTOH I can&#8217;t help wishing that legal action had prevented, say the A-Bomb ever coming into existence &#8230; to name one example. </p>
<p>Seems sometimes science&#8217;s job is to come up with more and more horrible ways of killing more people .. </p>
<p><i>(Eg. depleted uranmium shells, landmines, aerial bombardment, specialised stronger-sharper swords, seige towers, napalm, H-Bombs, neutron bombs, trebuchets, grenades, ad nauseam ..)</i></p>
<p>While the law &#038; politics is there to protect us from these scientific inventions. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  <i>(Eg. SALT treaty, anti-landmine treaty, United Nations -hasn&#8217;t that worked well &#8211; not!, anti-nuclear weapons treaty,anti-biological &#038; chemical weapons treaty, ad nauseam ..) </i></p>
<p>Moreover, if something threatens to destroy <b>the *entire* planet</b> like say hypothetically the LHC or maybe one of its successor atom-smashers <i>(Yeah I know we keep hearing that it won&#8217;t &#038; yes, odds are 99.999 % likely that it won&#8217;t too &#8211; but some folks still fear it will ..) </i> then why should legal action to prevent it be restricted to only one nation? </p>
<p>If some mad experiment thingy <i> (not specifically saying the LHC just in general) </i> hypothetically threatens to kill everyone on Earth .. Then  I reckon anyone, anywhere &#8211; in fact *every*body , *everywhere*, ought tobe able to take whatever action is needed <i>(pref. non-violent but)</i> incl. legal action to stop the mad experiment. </p>
<p>Coz Planet Earth is kinda in *all* our jurisdictions! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yes, science is fantastic and, yes, we all benefit from it &#8211; but I would also have to say it is a double-edged sword witha downside too and needs careful handling as well.</p>
<p>So while these cases are dumb examples of suing science &#038;  worth laughing at &#8211; legal action against certain types of science is perhaps justifiable under some circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: News From Around The Blogosphere 12.27.08 &#171; Skepacabra</title>
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		<dc:creator>News From Around The Blogosphere 12.27.08 &#171; Skepacabra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] suing about polar bears being endangered. I&#8217;m not going to reveal the number 1. And PhilPlait adds 1 more, the current Simon Singh [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ccpetersen</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccpetersen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 06:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary, I hear ya... then again, i started a diet and exercise regimen about a month and a half ago and have stuck to it pretty doggedly and now I can&#039;t imagine NOT doing my 1-2 miles a day on the track and eating low-fat food... so, it can be gotten used to.  And, I&#039;m not really starving myself... just eating more healthily...

I do know that there&#039;s NO magic bullet for weight loss, just as there is no royal road to geometry...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, I hear ya&#8230; then again, i started a diet and exercise regimen about a month and a half ago and have stuck to it pretty doggedly and now I can&#8217;t imagine NOT doing my 1-2 miles a day on the track and eating low-fat food&#8230; so, it can be gotten used to.  And, I&#8217;m not really starving myself&#8230; just eating more healthily&#8230;</p>
<p>I do know that there&#8217;s NO magic bullet for weight loss, just as there is no royal road to geometry&#8230;</p>
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