Comments on: Skepchick’s Top Tens, wherein I boot booty http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/ I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 16:31:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: quasidog http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/comment-page-1/#comment-144688 quasidog Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:03:15 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/#comment-144688 Correction ..... ......I had never even heard of Jenny McCarthy outside of being a celebrity before PRO-vaxxers started ranting with the hate....... so many vaxxers Correction …..
……I had never even heard of Jenny McCarthy outside of being a celebrity before PRO-vaxxers started ranting with the hate…….

so many vaxxers

]]> By: quasidog http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/comment-page-1/#comment-144685 quasidog Thu, 01 Jan 2009 21:01:07 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/#comment-144685 Equis .. although I am 100% in favour of vaccination, I also read a bit of that site and similar ones and felt how you did. Seems to me that her being labeled a 'total tool' is a bit overrated. I reckon the fact so many are even drawing attention to her is only promoting her more. Some of the things she believes are clearly wrong and misguided, but I don't think it warrants the abuse she receives. Some high minded people love to bully. Maybe it's a complex they have left over from high school. Bullying the hot, dumb girl they could never have or be like could be a factor here too. :) Maybe, instead of small mindedly abusing her and ironically drawing attention to her cause, pro-vaxxers would be more successful in just plain promoting vaccination itself and in turn drawing attention to that cause, and attention away from Jenny McCarthy. Negative advertising is still advertising. That's how advertising works. I had never even heard of Jenny McCarthy outside of being a celebrity before anti-vaxxers started ranting with the hate. I am 100% pro-vaccination. I will vaccinate all my kids. I was vaccinated. I don't have autism (and I don't know anyone with it) and I don't have the diseases I was vaccinated against. Equis .. although I am 100% in favour of vaccination, I also read a bit of that site and similar ones and felt how you did. Seems to me that her being labeled a ‘total tool’ is a bit overrated. I reckon the fact so many are even drawing attention to her is only promoting her more. Some of the things she believes are clearly wrong and misguided, but I don’t think it warrants the abuse she receives. Some high minded people love to bully. Maybe it’s a complex they have left over from high school. Bullying the hot, dumb girl they could never have or be like could be a factor here too. :)

Maybe, instead of small mindedly abusing her and ironically drawing attention to her cause, pro-vaxxers would be more successful in just plain promoting vaccination itself and in turn drawing attention to that cause, and attention away from Jenny McCarthy. Negative advertising is still advertising. That’s how advertising works.

I had never even heard of Jenny McCarthy outside of being a celebrity before anti-vaxxers started ranting with the hate.

I am 100% pro-vaccination. I will vaccinate all my kids. I was vaccinated. I don’t have autism (and I don’t know anyone with it) and I don’t have the diseases I was vaccinated against.

]]> By: Equis http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/comment-page-1/#comment-144576 Equis Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:22:55 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/#comment-144576 When I first read this, I thought "Wow, Jenny McCarthy is a real jack-ass". Then I followed those links to "stopjenny.com". Any true skeptic would be ashamed of that site. I don't know, it seems like what Jenny is doing is fairly noble. I'm as suspicious of the anti-vac. crowd as any rational person but she doesn't really seem to be pushing that agenda. At least not at www.generationrescue.com, which has some pretty border line statements at times but no where does it say "don't vaccinate". Yes she has said some stupid stuff but, for example, her interview at http://www.pr.com/article/1076 is generally pretty good with some bad mixed in. Sure we can cherry pick the bad but few of us are perfect. Perhaps I didn't dig deep enough, I guess my "B.S. meter" (to quote Carl Sagan) hit full tilt when reading stopjenny.com. When I first read this, I thought “Wow, Jenny McCarthy is a real jack-ass”. Then I followed those links to “stopjenny.com”. Any true skeptic would be ashamed of that site. I don’t know, it seems like what Jenny is doing is fairly noble.

I’m as suspicious of the anti-vac. crowd as any rational person but she doesn’t really seem to be pushing that agenda. At least not at http://www.generationrescue.com, which has some pretty border line statements at times but no where does it say “don’t vaccinate”. Yes she has said some stupid stuff but, for example, her interview at http://www.pr.com/article/1076 is generally pretty good with some bad mixed in. Sure we can cherry pick the bad but few of us are perfect.

Perhaps I didn’t dig deep enough, I guess my “B.S. meter” (to quote Carl Sagan) hit full tilt when reading stopjenny.com.

]]> By: quasidog http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/comment-page-1/#comment-144526 quasidog Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:01:08 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/#comment-144526 .. actually am I agreeing with Julian? or was I agreeing with the poster whom Julain referenced? .. doh :) .. actually am I agreeing with Julian? or was I agreeing with the poster whom Julain referenced? .. doh :)

]]> By: quasidog http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/comment-page-1/#comment-144524 quasidog Thu, 01 Jan 2009 01:59:55 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/#comment-144524 I agree Julian ... Robert Mugabe would have to be one of the foremost evil, idiot, terrorist a$%#holes the world has ever known ... yet his reign continues.. even in the obvious light of him being a little Hitler clone. Everyone knows he is responsible for the record corruption of his economy .... how many million percent inflation is it now, and still rising at an exponential rate? Amazing .. *shakes head in disgust* How many million people are being affected by disease and starvation .. primarily due to his idiot power mongering polocies now ? George Bush might be a douche (with weapons and money) but imagine Robert Mugabe with the same amount of power under his belt. OMFG the world would be over tomorrow!!! Kick this man out!!! Put this man in a prison!!! If it was my list I would put him at #1 on the Top Ten Jackasses for sure, but he isn't American so nobody cares. Sadly invading Zimbabwe, rescuing their people and wiping him out (ala Saddam Hussein style) would cost too much and reap nothing. He has no oil. I agree Julian …

Robert Mugabe would have to be one of the foremost evil, idiot, terrorist a$%#holes the world has ever known … yet his reign continues.. even in the obvious light of him being a little Hitler clone.

Everyone knows he is responsible for the record corruption of his economy …. how many million percent inflation is it now, and still rising at an exponential rate? Amazing .. *shakes head in disgust* How many million people are being affected by disease and starvation .. primarily due to his idiot power mongering polocies now ? George Bush might be a douche (with weapons and money) but imagine Robert Mugabe with the same amount of power under his belt. OMFG the world would be over tomorrow!!! Kick this man out!!! Put this man in a prison!!!

If it was my list I would put him at #1 on the Top Ten Jackasses for sure, but he isn’t American so nobody cares. Sadly invading Zimbabwe, rescuing their people and wiping him out (ala Saddam Hussein style) would cost too much and reap nothing. He has no oil.

]]> By: Torbjörn Larsson, OM http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/comment-page-1/#comment-144432 Torbjörn Larsson, OM Wed, 31 Dec 2008 19:26:30 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/#comment-144432 <blockquote> Belittlement is nessesarry so it can be mapped in it’s entirety. </blockquote> Touché! ... and after having used that figure of speech in this context I have to take out my brain and wash it.

Belittlement is nessesarry so it can be mapped in it’s entirety.

Touché!

… and after having used that figure of speech in this context I have to take out my brain and wash it.

]]> By: Julian http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/comment-page-1/#comment-144406 Julian Wed, 31 Dec 2008 17:33:21 +0000 http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2008/12/30/skepchicks-top-tens-wherein-i-boot-booty/#comment-144406 "Always with the bias. Somehow, Bush and Palin make the list, but Robert Mugabe doesn’t?" Mugabe's field of influence is very limited. While he's rained hell (through poor leadership, inaction and all around douchiness) down on the people of his country, his power outside of it is very limited whereas the likes of Palin, as second to the 'leader of the free world,' could have been a disaster. At least that's the way I rationalize it. :p The list is very much Western probably because those who compiled it are very much part of the West. (btw, India is part of the West however much it may want to pretend it isn't an Anglicized Country) “Always with the bias. Somehow, Bush and Palin make the list, but Robert Mugabe doesn’t?”

Mugabe’s field of influence is very limited. While he’s rained hell (through poor leadership, inaction and all around douchiness) down on the people of his country, his power outside of it is very limited whereas the likes of Palin, as second to the ‘leader of the free world,’ could have been a disaster. At least that’s the way I rationalize it. :p

The list is very much Western probably because those who compiled it are very much part of the West. (btw, India is part of the West however much it may want to pretend it isn’t an Anglicized Country)

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