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	<title>Comments on: Texas: not so doomed?</title>
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	<description>I am an astronomer, writer, and skeptic. I likes reality the way it is, and I aims to keep it that way. My real name is Phil Plait, and I run the Bad Astronomy blog.</description>
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		<title>By: Gynophile</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/08/texas-not-so-doomed-2/comment-page-2/#comment-185291</link>
		<dc:creator>Gynophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 23:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m currently enrolled in a Texas high school, in a city, which is also a public school and, actually, I haven&#039;t had any science teachers who vehemently argue that evolution doesn&#039;t exist and that the Earth was made by a &quot;creator&quot; merely 6,000 year ago or any of that ludicrous junk. I have had devout Christian teachers, but they never push their religion into their lessons or try to favor their own opinions over the required course teachings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m currently enrolled in a Texas high school, in a city, which is also a public school and, actually, I haven&#8217;t had any science teachers who vehemently argue that evolution doesn&#8217;t exist and that the Earth was made by a &#8220;creator&#8221; merely 6,000 year ago or any of that ludicrous junk. I have had devout Christian teachers, but they never push their religion into their lessons or try to favor their own opinions over the required course teachings.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas: fight for science &#124; MamentoMori</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/08/texas-not-so-doomed-2/comment-page-2/#comment-149311</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas: fight for science &#124; MamentoMori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 02:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When I last wrote about Texas, things were improving. A set of science standards for schools had been drafted that removed creationist weasel words about academic freedom (creationist code for letting them teach religion in the classroom). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When I last wrote about Texas, things were improving. A set of science standards for schools had been drafted that removed creationist weasel words about academic freedom (creationist code for letting them teach religion in the classroom). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Texas: fight for science &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/08/texas-not-so-doomed-2/comment-page-1/#comment-149124</link>
		<dc:creator>Texas: fight for science &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] When I last wrote about Texas, things were improving. A set of science standards for schools had been drafted that removed creationist weasel words about academic freedom (creationist code for letting them teach religion in the classroom). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] When I last wrote about Texas, things were improving. A set of science standards for schools had been drafted that removed creationist weasel words about academic freedom (creationist code for letting them teach religion in the classroom). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 00:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:)</description>
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		<title>By: Todd W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Darth Robo

There, there...just suspend your &quot;logic&quot; and &quot;research&quot; and you&#039;ll be happier.</description>
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<p>There, there&#8230;just suspend your &#8220;logic&#8221; and &#8220;research&#8221; and you&#8217;ll be happier.</p>
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		<title>By: Darth Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah well, I guess I&#039;m not gonna get all my questions answered after all, since creationontheweb didn&#039;t answer them for me.

:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah well, I guess I&#8217;m not gonna get all my questions answered after all, since creationontheweb didn&#8217;t answer them for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas kicks creationism to the curb. - Page 2 - Debate Politics Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas kicks creationism to the curb. - Page 2 - Debate Politics Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] universe was made possible because 2 of our ancestors had a conversation with a talking snake?   Article is here.    When did Texas public ever teach creationism? I&#039;ve been here for years and never heard of it in [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Darth Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:04:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you&#039;ve never heard of the Clergy Letter Project?  There are many religious people who accept evolution, and, as you&#039;ve just pointed out, the ONLY reason to reject the scientific evidence for evolution is a literal interpretation of the Bible.  So a very important question I have to ask is:  Why do you insist on placing limits on the Almighty?  

There are NUMEROUS problems with your site which supposedly &quot;demoslishes Darwinism&quot;; first thing I noticed was it thinks the Earth is a mere 6,000 years old.  Which means you are not only denying evolution, but also geology, archaeology, astrophysics, pretty much all of science to be honest.  The OTHER problem is this:

http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/43/61/

In other words, their conclusion comes first.  Not very scientific.  But then, you&#039;re not here to argue about science, are you?  Neither are they.  

And if you truly believe that evolution is a violation of the Constitution, then why do you not take that to court?  In the end, no-one is telling you what you can or cannot believe, but unfortunately whether you like it or not, evolution is part of the scientific curriculum.  It also makes NO claims as to whether or not there is a &quot;God&quot;, in the same way the rest of science makes no religious claims.  You are free to not believe in evolution (or any other scientific discipline, but public school science classes are for science.  Not for religious apologetics, which is all you&#039;re promoting here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you&#8217;ve never heard of the Clergy Letter Project?  There are many religious people who accept evolution, and, as you&#8217;ve just pointed out, the ONLY reason to reject the scientific evidence for evolution is a literal interpretation of the Bible.  So a very important question I have to ask is:  Why do you insist on placing limits on the Almighty?  </p>
<p>There are NUMEROUS problems with your site which supposedly &#8220;demoslishes Darwinism&#8221;; first thing I noticed was it thinks the Earth is a mere 6,000 years old.  Which means you are not only denying evolution, but also geology, archaeology, astrophysics, pretty much all of science to be honest.  The OTHER problem is this:</p>
<p><a href="http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/43/61/" rel="nofollow">http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/43/61/</a></p>
<p>In other words, their conclusion comes first.  Not very scientific.  But then, you&#8217;re not here to argue about science, are you?  Neither are they.  </p>
<p>And if you truly believe that evolution is a violation of the Constitution, then why do you not take that to court?  In the end, no-one is telling you what you can or cannot believe, but unfortunately whether you like it or not, evolution is part of the scientific curriculum.  It also makes NO claims as to whether or not there is a &#8220;God&#8221;, in the same way the rest of science makes no religious claims.  You are free to not believe in evolution (or any other scientific discipline, but public school science classes are for science.  Not for religious apologetics, which is all you&#8217;re promoting here.</p>
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		<title>By: Will of People = Faith!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will of People = Faith!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 07:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Darth Robo asked me : 

@Will of people = Faith!,

1. What does evolution have to do with atheism? 

A lot! Evolution is athiests means of attacking religion specifically Christanity. All of the outspoken atheists put their faith in their dubious theory of evolution and evolution is used as a wedge by our Adversary to try and convince people the Bible is false. Evolution denies any place for the Creator God and the Risen Lord Jesus Christ. More importantly, the Bible, the literal Gospel Truth utterly denies evolution! 

2. What does God have to do with science? 

Aha -you make it very clear here that you wish the answer to be &#039;nothing&#039; that you like other evolutionists reject any role for the Almighty. In truth, God is in all things and the answer for everything. 

3. What does Liberalism or atheism have to do with hating America?

It is common knowledge that liberals are anti-American and that Liberalism and its fellow ideology of socilaism are against patriotism, nationalism, capitalism and the American way. Many, if not all prominent liberals speak very badly about their country and display no pride in it or its conduct around the world. The same far-left liberals that made excuses for and cheered on the Communists are now cheering on our terrorist Jihadist enmeies again. And we all know it.

4. Since America has the First Amendment, if you don’t like it, why don’t YOU move? 

I never said I disliked the First Amendment. I love our constitution as much if not more than you do. If you mean  the part about &quot;Congress making no law respecting religion&quot; you need to note atheism too is a religion - the irrational and false belief that there is no God. Compelling students to belive atheism - and evolutionism - is, in fact, violating the Constitution! What the First Amendment was made for was ensuring no religious  hatred and warfare within the framework of a Christian nation - under and before God - NOT denying Christianity altogether and substituting Dawkinism in His place. 

Atheists and Dawkinists suppose themselves to be without God(s) when in fact the false idols they worship are those they see reflected in a mirror -themsleves. They think they are smarter than the Creator Himself -and of course, are entirely wrong in this godlessness delusion.

Oh and I&#039;m a patriotic American, one of the silent majority who loves his country and knows it to still be (for all its flaws &amp; atheist liberal white-anters) a good Christian land.

5. If “God-fearing Christians” have the “ultimate say” then how can you call America, a place where last I heard that EVERYONE is free to believe in ANY religion they wish (or not), a democracy? If you are so “happy” then why do you fear your God? 

Because the Almighty is the Almighty; All-powerful and All-knowing. If you do not fear God then you are a fool. If you do not Love God with all your heart - you are lost.

6. And finally, (quite a pertinent question I might add) many “God-fearing” Christians quite happily accept evolution and indeed all science has to offer. Is there any reason why one cannot both accept modern science AND believe in God, aside from a literal interpretation of ancient superstitious texts? Many people do. In fact, “evolutionists” may not necessarily be as much of a minority as you think…

The polls, statistics and Reality outside says otherwise! 

Incidentally, click on my name for linking to a website FAQ that utterly and comprehensively demolishes Evolutionism. It will answer all your other questions - I&#039;m going to bed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darth Robo asked me : </p>
<p>@Will of people = Faith!,</p>
<p>1. What does evolution have to do with atheism? </p>
<p>A lot! Evolution is athiests means of attacking religion specifically Christanity. All of the outspoken atheists put their faith in their dubious theory of evolution and evolution is used as a wedge by our Adversary to try and convince people the Bible is false. Evolution denies any place for the Creator God and the Risen Lord Jesus Christ. More importantly, the Bible, the literal Gospel Truth utterly denies evolution! </p>
<p>2. What does God have to do with science? </p>
<p>Aha -you make it very clear here that you wish the answer to be &#8216;nothing&#8217; that you like other evolutionists reject any role for the Almighty. In truth, God is in all things and the answer for everything. </p>
<p>3. What does Liberalism or atheism have to do with hating America?</p>
<p>It is common knowledge that liberals are anti-American and that Liberalism and its fellow ideology of socilaism are against patriotism, nationalism, capitalism and the American way. Many, if not all prominent liberals speak very badly about their country and display no pride in it or its conduct around the world. The same far-left liberals that made excuses for and cheered on the Communists are now cheering on our terrorist Jihadist enmeies again. And we all know it.</p>
<p>4. Since America has the First Amendment, if you don’t like it, why don’t YOU move? </p>
<p>I never said I disliked the First Amendment. I love our constitution as much if not more than you do. If you mean  the part about &#8220;Congress making no law respecting religion&#8221; you need to note atheism too is a religion &#8211; the irrational and false belief that there is no God. Compelling students to belive atheism &#8211; and evolutionism &#8211; is, in fact, violating the Constitution! What the First Amendment was made for was ensuring no religious  hatred and warfare within the framework of a Christian nation &#8211; under and before God &#8211; NOT denying Christianity altogether and substituting Dawkinism in His place. </p>
<p>Atheists and Dawkinists suppose themselves to be without God(s) when in fact the false idols they worship are those they see reflected in a mirror -themsleves. They think they are smarter than the Creator Himself -and of course, are entirely wrong in this godlessness delusion.</p>
<p>Oh and I&#8217;m a patriotic American, one of the silent majority who loves his country and knows it to still be (for all its flaws &#038; atheist liberal white-anters) a good Christian land.</p>
<p>5. If “God-fearing Christians” have the “ultimate say” then how can you call America, a place where last I heard that EVERYONE is free to believe in ANY religion they wish (or not), a democracy? If you are so “happy” then why do you fear your God? </p>
<p>Because the Almighty is the Almighty; All-powerful and All-knowing. If you do not fear God then you are a fool. If you do not Love God with all your heart &#8211; you are lost.</p>
<p>6. And finally, (quite a pertinent question I might add) many “God-fearing” Christians quite happily accept evolution and indeed all science has to offer. Is there any reason why one cannot both accept modern science AND believe in God, aside from a literal interpretation of ancient superstitious texts? Many people do. In fact, “evolutionists” may not necessarily be as much of a minority as you think…</p>
<p>The polls, statistics and Reality outside says otherwise! </p>
<p>Incidentally, click on my name for linking to a website FAQ that utterly and comprehensively demolishes Evolutionism. It will answer all your other questions &#8211; I&#8217;m going to bed!</p>
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		<title>By: Texas kicks creationism to the curb. - Debate Politics Forums</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas kicks creationism to the curb. - Debate Politics Forums</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 04:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] universe was made possible because 2 of our ancestors had a conversation with a talking snake?   Article is here.  __________________ Jack Kevorkian for President&#039;s Physician: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Darth Robo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darth Robo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 22:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Will of people = Faith!,

What does evolution have to do with atheism?  

What does God have to do with science?  

What does Liberalism or atheism have to do with hating America?

Since America has the First Amendment, if you don&#039;t like it, why don&#039;t YOU move?  

If &quot;God-fearing Christians&quot; have the &quot;ultimate say&quot; then how can you call America, a place where last I heard that EVERYONE is free to believe in ANY religion they wish (or not), a democracy?  

If you are so &quot;happy&quot; then why do you fear your God?  

And finally, (quite a pertinent question I might add) many &quot;God-fearing&quot; Christians quite happily accept evolution and indeed all science has to offer.  Is there any reason why one cannot both accept modern science AND believe in God, aside from a literal interpretation of ancient superstitious texts?  Many people do.  In fact, &quot;evolutionists&quot; may not necessarily be as much of a minority as you think...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Will of people = Faith!,</p>
<p>What does evolution have to do with atheism?  </p>
<p>What does God have to do with science?  </p>
<p>What does Liberalism or atheism have to do with hating America?</p>
<p>Since America has the First Amendment, if you don&#8217;t like it, why don&#8217;t YOU move?  </p>
<p>If &#8220;God-fearing Christians&#8221; have the &#8220;ultimate say&#8221; then how can you call America, a place where last I heard that EVERYONE is free to believe in ANY religion they wish (or not), a democracy?  </p>
<p>If you are so &#8220;happy&#8221; then why do you fear your God?  </p>
<p>And finally, (quite a pertinent question I might add) many &#8220;God-fearing&#8221; Christians quite happily accept evolution and indeed all science has to offer.  Is there any reason why one cannot both accept modern science AND believe in God, aside from a literal interpretation of ancient superstitious texts?  Many people do.  In fact, &#8220;evolutionists&#8221; may not necessarily be as much of a minority as you think&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Todd W.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Todd W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just gotta say, one of the things I love about the U.S. is the separation of church/religion and state/secular society that is erected by the First Amendment.  It helps to ensure both good government and good religion.  Any mixing of the two dooms both.

Here&#039;s hoping that Texas uses some common sense and avoids any costly and preventable lawsuits down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just gotta say, one of the things I love about the U.S. is the separation of church/religion and state/secular society that is erected by the First Amendment.  It helps to ensure both good government and good religion.  Any mixing of the two dooms both.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s hoping that Texas uses some common sense and avoids any costly and preventable lawsuits down the road.</p>
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		<title>By: Asimov Fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Asimov Fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Quiet Desperation&lt;/b&gt; Said on Jan 8th, 2009 at 11:56 am : 

&lt;i&gt; &quot;If they insist upon teaching the supernatural then I must contest that supermassive black holes are really Gods who have shaped our galaxy and seeded life.

Confess. You’re Stephen Baxter in disguise.&quot; &lt;/i&gt; 

Awesome! Stephen Baxter reading and posting on this blog? Now that&#039;d be superluminous -ie. beyond mere brilliance! 8)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Quiet Desperation</b> Said on Jan 8th, 2009 at 11:56 am : </p>
<p><i> &#8220;If they insist upon teaching the supernatural then I must contest that supermassive black holes are really Gods who have shaped our galaxy and seeded life.</p>
<p>Confess. You’re Stephen Baxter in disguise.&#8221; </i> </p>
<p>Awesome! Stephen Baxter reading and posting on this blog? Now that&#8217;d be superluminous -ie. beyond mere brilliance! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Will of people = Faith!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will of people = Faith!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 16:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The majority of the American people belive in God and in the Biblical Creation. 

America is a Democracy. 

Evolutionists are a minority - and that this small athiest evvolutionist elite look down their noses at ordinary people doesn&#039;t make the evolutionists right or give them ther right to enforce their views. 

If the majority of people have faith in God - to be precise in Jesus Christ and the Christian faith - doesn&#039;t that tell you something in itself? 

Apart from merely and pertinantly here that you&#039;re outvoted?

Instead of jumping up and down and trying to deny and insult what most  people &lt;i&gt;(and these are good, decent, Amercian people who work and play hard &amp; generally live pretty well and wisely ) &lt;/i&gt; think and strongly believe in; why not think about why they belive and accept that they may have good reasons exceeding the vain logic (&amp; logic can &quot;prove&quot; anything if twisted enough) and limited understanding of the god-hating, often America-hating, atheist liberal minority? 

If the majority will of the people is to teach God&#039;s Word as well as - or even instead of - that of the evolutionist theoreticans then that&#039;s how it _should_ be in our Democracy!   

If the athiests don&#039;t like it then they can either just lump it or move somewhere where their ideology is in power. Funnily enough few if any of those athiest countries are Democracies and most are totalitarian dictatorships. 

Russia, I beleive was atheist - why not move there? No, wait it failed under fanatically atheist Communism and converted back to Christianity again. 

Lets see - China - yeah that&#039;s still athiest - so&#039;s Cuba and North Korea. Rather live there athiests? If so, then move! 

Rather not? Then accept you&#039;re an out-voted minority and that in a Democracy where most people are God fearing Christians then the God-Fearing Christians have the ultimate say &amp; not you. 

Then maybe, just maybe, you might try asking them or reading the Bible and searching your own hearts as to why they&#039;re so &quot;common&quot; and &quot;popular&quot; and you&#039;re such a small unpopular, unhappy group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The majority of the American people belive in God and in the Biblical Creation. </p>
<p>America is a Democracy. </p>
<p>Evolutionists are a minority &#8211; and that this small athiest evvolutionist elite look down their noses at ordinary people doesn&#8217;t make the evolutionists right or give them ther right to enforce their views. </p>
<p>If the majority of people have faith in God &#8211; to be precise in Jesus Christ and the Christian faith &#8211; doesn&#8217;t that tell you something in itself? </p>
<p>Apart from merely and pertinantly here that you&#8217;re outvoted?</p>
<p>Instead of jumping up and down and trying to deny and insult what most  people <i>(and these are good, decent, Amercian people who work and play hard &#038; generally live pretty well and wisely ) </i> think and strongly believe in; why not think about why they belive and accept that they may have good reasons exceeding the vain logic (&#038; logic can &#8220;prove&#8221; anything if twisted enough) and limited understanding of the god-hating, often America-hating, atheist liberal minority? </p>
<p>If the majority will of the people is to teach God&#8217;s Word as well as &#8211; or even instead of &#8211; that of the evolutionist theoreticans then that&#8217;s how it _should_ be in our Democracy!   </p>
<p>If the athiests don&#8217;t like it then they can either just lump it or move somewhere where their ideology is in power. Funnily enough few if any of those athiest countries are Democracies and most are totalitarian dictatorships. </p>
<p>Russia, I beleive was atheist &#8211; why not move there? No, wait it failed under fanatically atheist Communism and converted back to Christianity again. </p>
<p>Lets see &#8211; China &#8211; yeah that&#8217;s still athiest &#8211; so&#8217;s Cuba and North Korea. Rather live there athiests? If so, then move! </p>
<p>Rather not? Then accept you&#8217;re an out-voted minority and that in a Democracy where most people are God fearing Christians then the God-Fearing Christians have the ultimate say &#038; not you. </p>
<p>Then maybe, just maybe, you might try asking them or reading the Bible and searching your own hearts as to why they&#8217;re so &#8220;common&#8221; and &#8220;popular&#8221; and you&#8217;re such a small unpopular, unhappy group.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat lover - second swipe!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat lover - second swipe!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taking a second swipe to pounce on those nasty typos ..Yeck, I&#039;d rather have furballs than typos! ;-)
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Cat lover Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation. 
January 10th, 2009 at 8:33 am 

… As well as miniature missile launchers apparently .. Mee- OWWW!!  No fair! 

Incidentally, why are there 3 dogs in the sky - the Big (Canis Major) the little (Canis Minor) and the obscure (Hunting dogs - Canes Venatici) yet no Felis the cat! 

Lalande (I think?) tried to introduce that one cat constellation  but failed .. pity &amp; again no fair! Sigh. 

Still we&#039;ve always got Leo and Lynx .. Purr. ;-) 

Oh as for the Creationist fools - go get ‘em tiger Phil!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taking a second swipe to pounce on those nasty typos ..Yeck, I&#8217;d rather have furballs than typos! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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<p>Cat lover Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.<br />
January 10th, 2009 at 8:33 am </p>
<p>… As well as miniature missile launchers apparently .. Mee- OWWW!!  No fair! </p>
<p>Incidentally, why are there 3 dogs in the sky &#8211; the Big (Canis Major) the little (Canis Minor) and the obscure (Hunting dogs &#8211; Canes Venatici) yet no Felis the cat! </p>
<p>Lalande (I think?) tried to introduce that one cat constellation  but failed .. pity &#038; again no fair! Sigh. </p>
<p>Still we&#8217;ve always got Leo and Lynx .. Purr. <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Oh as for the Creationist fools &#8211; go get ‘em tiger Phil!</p>
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		<title>By: Cat lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... As well as miniature missile launchers apparently .. 

Mee- OWWW!! :-( No fair! 

Incidentally, why three dogs inthe sky - theBig (Canis Major) the little (CanisMinor and theobscure (Huntinmg dogs -Canes Venatici) yet no Fe;lis the cat! 

Lalande (i think?) tried to introduce a constellation cat butfailed .. pity &amp; again no fair! Sigh.

Oh as for the Creationist fools - go get &#039;em tiger Phil! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; As well as miniature missile launchers apparently .. </p>
<p>Mee- OWWW!! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />  No fair! </p>
<p>Incidentally, why three dogs inthe sky &#8211; theBig (Canis Major) the little (CanisMinor and theobscure (Huntinmg dogs -Canes Venatici) yet no Fe;lis the cat! </p>
<p>Lalande (i think?) tried to introduce a constellation cat butfailed .. pity &#038; again no fair! Sigh.</p>
<p>Oh as for the Creationist fools &#8211; go get &#8216;em tiger Phil! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Cat lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! Poor cat! :-(  

Personally, I think we&#039;re doomed only if the cat loses - mice carry bubonic plague remember! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! Poor cat! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Personally, I think we&#8217;re doomed only if the cat loses &#8211; mice carry bubonic plague remember! <img src='http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ByeByeTexas</title>
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		<dc:creator>ByeByeTexas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 15:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jim Howard

False choice: there are no Chicago politicians looking to be in charge of Texas education.

What we do have are a lot of supersitious, ignorant people here who would rather teach those superstitions in the schools instead of actual science.

Sorry, there are still enough stupid, rude, phony-religious people in Texas. I don&#039;t really know how less-doomed it is, but it may be easier to see once we leave. That cannot happen too soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim Howard</p>
<p>False choice: there are no Chicago politicians looking to be in charge of Texas education.</p>
<p>What we do have are a lot of supersitious, ignorant people here who would rather teach those superstitions in the schools instead of actual science.</p>
<p>Sorry, there are still enough stupid, rude, phony-religious people in Texas. I don&#8217;t really know how less-doomed it is, but it may be easier to see once we leave. That cannot happen too soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Winter Solstice Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Winter Solstice Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:32:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Texas is slowly getting smarter because the Village Idiot hasn&#039;t been ruling there since 2001.

Of course in a few days they will get him back, so watch out.

A new President who is smart, articulate, and makes good choices - I don&#039;t know if I can deal with the shock after 8 years of the Dark Ages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Texas is slowly getting smarter because the Village Idiot hasn&#8217;t been ruling there since 2001.</p>
<p>Of course in a few days they will get him back, so watch out.</p>
<p>A new President who is smart, articulate, and makes good choices &#8211; I don&#8217;t know if I can deal with the shock after 8 years of the Dark Ages.</p>
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		<title>By: Grand Lunar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Grand Lunar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 12:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Don McLeroy, the state board’s chairman, has said that science should admit the possibly [sic] of the supernatural when natural explanations fail. &quot;

This reminds me of what was read about Newton, when he worked on planetary motions. Over long periods of time, it seemed the system would come apart. So, he felt a supernatural intervention was needed.

Later, another individual (have to look up the name) refined the work, and saw the problem was self correcting. No need for the supernatural.

McLeroy should take heed of this lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Don McLeroy, the state board’s chairman, has said that science should admit the possibly [sic] of the supernatural when natural explanations fail. &#8221;</p>
<p>This reminds me of what was read about Newton, when he worked on planetary motions. Over long periods of time, it seemed the system would come apart. So, he felt a supernatural intervention was needed.</p>
<p>Later, another individual (have to look up the name) refined the work, and saw the problem was self correcting. No need for the supernatural.</p>
<p>McLeroy should take heed of this lesson.</p>
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		<title>By: News From Around The Blogosphere 01.08.09 &#171; Skepacabra</title>
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		<dc:creator>News From Around The Blogosphere 01.08.09 &#171; Skepacabra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But Texas on the other hand might soon be safe again from creationists - The final proposed science standards for the state actually strengthen science and deprive creationists of their favorite tool, language manipulation. Way to go y&#8217;all in Texas! I am slightly less afraid of your state. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But Texas on the other hand might soon be safe again from creationists &#8211; The final proposed science standards for the state actually strengthen science and deprive creationists of their favorite tool, language manipulation. Way to go y&#8217;all in Texas! I am slightly less afraid of your state. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Skepacabra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skepacabra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But Texas on the other hand might soon be safe again from creationists - The final proposed science standards for the state actually strengthen science and deprive creationists of their favorite tool, language manipulation. Way to go y&#8217;all in Texas! I am slightly less afraid of your state. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] But Texas on the other hand might soon be safe again from creationists &#8211; The final proposed science standards for the state actually strengthen science and deprive creationists of their favorite tool, language manipulation. Way to go y&#8217;all in Texas! I am slightly less afraid of your state. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Luke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real problem is lack of quality teachers in city schools. (suburbs tend to be very good) It isn&#039;t lack of pay or benefits that is the problem (at least in Wisconsin where a teacher can make $45,000.00 per year and that includes teaching two study halls, along with 2 personal periods, making only 5 45 minute classes per day) The problem is bigger and parents need to demand their kids do well, and I beleive that teachers at the high school level should have to pass basic competency exams on a regular basis (This could be as easy as a 101 final in the subjects they teach)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real problem is lack of quality teachers in city schools. (suburbs tend to be very good) It isn&#8217;t lack of pay or benefits that is the problem (at least in Wisconsin where a teacher can make $45,000.00 per year and that includes teaching two study halls, along with 2 personal periods, making only 5 45 minute classes per day) The problem is bigger and parents need to demand their kids do well, and I beleive that teachers at the high school level should have to pass basic competency exams on a regular basis (This could be as easy as a 101 final in the subjects they teach)</p>
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		<title>By: tamar</title>
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		<dc:creator>tamar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with James. Whatever the board decides, I will NOT give any credence to intelligent design in my classroom. I honestly don&#039;t see how they could make any argument that it belongs there, but this IS Texas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with James. Whatever the board decides, I will NOT give any credence to intelligent design in my classroom. I honestly don&#8217;t see how they could make any argument that it belongs there, but this IS Texas.</p>
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		<title>By: Geek Goddess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geek Goddess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Houston Skeptics Society meeting (January 14, link:  http://www.meetup.com/HoustonSkeptics/calendar/9435463/)  will be discussing the school board and science education.  We will also have Richard Sucgang, PhD from Columbia and current Asst. Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Baylor College of Medicine, who will give a talk on the evidence for evolution in genome sequences, tailored to the lay audience.

By the way, they teach evolution at Baylor University and at their medical school, not creationism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Houston Skeptics Society meeting (January 14, link:  <a href="http://www.meetup.com/HoustonSkeptics/calendar/9435463/" rel="nofollow">http://www.meetup.com/HoustonSkeptics/calendar/9435463/</a>)  will be discussing the school board and science education.  We will also have Richard Sucgang, PhD from Columbia and current Asst. Professor of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology at Baylor College of Medicine, who will give a talk on the evidence for evolution in genome sequences, tailored to the lay audience.</p>
<p>By the way, they teach evolution at Baylor University and at their medical school, not creationism.</p>
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