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	<title>Comments on: How far away is the horizon?</title>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 19:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also the other simple quick approximation
.#miles=   sqrt(1.5*height in feet) 
which a fairly accurate because the ratio of the Earth&#039;s diameter in miles to the number of feet in a mile is very close to 3/2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also the other simple quick approximation<br />
.#miles=   sqrt(1.5*height in feet)<br />
which a fairly accurate because the ratio of the Earth&#8217;s diameter in miles to the number of feet in a mile is very close to 3/2.</p>
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		<title>By: Ella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 01:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if you&#039;re on the ground, looking up at a plane, at say 1000 ft. Isn&#039;t the horizon longer, because it&#039;s higher up? How do you calculate that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if you&#8217;re on the ground, looking up at a plane, at say 1000 ft. Isn&#8217;t the horizon longer, because it&#8217;s higher up? How do you calculate that?</p>
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		<title>By: What a falling star looks like… from space!</title>
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		<dc:creator>What a falling star looks like… from space!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 18:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] like we can see over if we go to a tip of a building). The additional volume seen is really roughly twice a area of a &#8220;meteor umbrella&#8221; seen from a ground. So, from a ISS, you’d see roughly twice as [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What a falling star looks like… from space! &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Space News Center</title>
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		<dc:creator>What a falling star looks like… from space! &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Space News Center</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 13:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you can see farther if you go to the top of a building). The additional amount seen is very roughly twice the area of the &#8220;meteor umbrella&#8221; seen from the ground. So, from the ISS, you’d see roughly [...]</description>
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		<title>By: eyrieowl</title>
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		<dc:creator>eyrieowl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, if I understand Bob and Jerome correctly, would that not mean that if I want to find the maximum distance at which an item of altitude A can see an item of altitude B that I would do maxDistance = sqrt(altA * (d * altA)) + sqrt(altB * (d * altB))  ?  I think that is the answer for Bill&#039;s oil-rig question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, if I understand Bob and Jerome correctly, would that not mean that if I want to find the maximum distance at which an item of altitude A can see an item of altitude B that I would do maxDistance = sqrt(altA * (d * altA)) + sqrt(altB * (d * altB))  ?  I think that is the answer for Bill&#8217;s oil-rig question.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Robertson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 18:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>30.   Harold Says:
January 15th, 2009 at 10:55 am
...The concept of the “horizon” being at ground level has always escaped me....

What this mean is, if an observer is looking straight out and level (that is, at a 90 degree angle to a line from his feet to the center of the Earth, the visible horizon will always appear to be at his own eye level.  You can check this easily by standing on the beach and looking out level, then going to the top of a tall building and looking out level, and then go up in a jet liner and looking out. Sure enough, the horizon line will seem to rise up with you, at least up to jetliner height - 30,000 feet.

Now here&#039;s my question. If you were to go high enough, up to the level of the space station, say, it seems like the horizon would eventually have to drop below your eye line - I mean, the Earth&#039;s only so big.

Has anyone out there (an astronaut or a U2 pilot?) seen if this happens? And if it does, how high do you have to go before it kicks in? 

This has been bothering me for years, which will give you an idea of what a quiet life I lead.... answers would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>30.   Harold Says:<br />
January 15th, 2009 at 10:55 am<br />
&#8230;The concept of the “horizon” being at ground level has always escaped me&#8230;.</p>
<p>What this mean is, if an observer is looking straight out and level (that is, at a 90 degree angle to a line from his feet to the center of the Earth, the visible horizon will always appear to be at his own eye level.  You can check this easily by standing on the beach and looking out level, then going to the top of a tall building and looking out level, and then go up in a jet liner and looking out. Sure enough, the horizon line will seem to rise up with you, at least up to jetliner height &#8211; 30,000 feet.</p>
<p>Now here&#8217;s my question. If you were to go high enough, up to the level of the space station, say, it seems like the horizon would eventually have to drop below your eye line &#8211; I mean, the Earth&#8217;s only so big.</p>
<p>Has anyone out there (an astronaut or a U2 pilot?) seen if this happens? And if it does, how high do you have to go before it kicks in? </p>
<p>This has been bothering me for years, which will give you an idea of what a quiet life I lead&#8230;. answers would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Need help with a similar but slightly more complex question.  If an object is 100 feet tall out on the ocean and I am 10 feet above the waters surface, approximately how far away can it been seen?  Basically I am trying to figure out if an oil plat form can be easily seen 10 miles out from the shore</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Need help with a similar but slightly more complex question.  If an object is 100 feet tall out on the ocean and I am 10 feet above the waters surface, approximately how far away can it been seen?  Basically I am trying to figure out if an oil plat form can be easily seen 10 miles out from the shore</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I accidentally happened onto this website and found it very interesting since I, too, have arrived at a formula to find the distance to the horizon from a certain altitude above a given sphere.

It is a very accurate and quite simple formula when compared to those shown above. It doesn&#039;t get any simpler than this.

It reads: distance to the horizon equals the square root of altitude (a) times (diameter of the sphere (s) plus altitude (a)):

     d=sqrt&#124;(a(s+a)&#124;
 
     a= altitude above sphere
     s= diameter of sphere
     d= distance to horizon

For example: 

At an altitude(a)of 1 mile above Earth(s),7910 miles in diameter,the distance(d)to the horizon would be 88.9438 miles.
or
At an altitude(a)of 1 mile above the Moon(s),2160 miles in diameter, the distance(d)to the horizon would be 46.4865 miles.
or
At an altitude(a) of 1 mile above the Sun(s),864,000 miles in diameter, the distance(d)to the horizon would be 929.5165 miles.

This formula, in its simplicity, can be used with any unit of measurement, size of sphere or altitude, however small or large.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I accidentally happened onto this website and found it very interesting since I, too, have arrived at a formula to find the distance to the horizon from a certain altitude above a given sphere.</p>
<p>It is a very accurate and quite simple formula when compared to those shown above. It doesn&#8217;t get any simpler than this.</p>
<p>It reads: distance to the horizon equals the square root of altitude (a) times (diameter of the sphere (s) plus altitude (a)):</p>
<p>     d=sqrt|(a(s+a)|</p>
<p>     a= altitude above sphere<br />
     s= diameter of sphere<br />
     d= distance to horizon</p>
<p>For example: </p>
<p>At an altitude(a)of 1 mile above Earth(s),7910 miles in diameter,the distance(d)to the horizon would be 88.9438 miles.<br />
or<br />
At an altitude(a)of 1 mile above the Moon(s),2160 miles in diameter, the distance(d)to the horizon would be 46.4865 miles.<br />
or<br />
At an altitude(a) of 1 mile above the Sun(s),864,000 miles in diameter, the distance(d)to the horizon would be 929.5165 miles.</p>
<p>This formula, in its simplicity, can be used with any unit of measurement, size of sphere or altitude, however small or large.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 22:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very interesting indeed.  Although I don&#039;t really have a scientific or even mathematical mind,  I&#039;m starting to doubt my cousin&#039;s contention that the land is so flat around his Wyoming home, that he can watch his dog run away for 3 days. 
He is either pulling my leg, or he has a very tall dog.</description>
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He is either pulling my leg, or he has a very tall dog.</p>
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		<title>By: Jérôme ^</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jérôme ^</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a simpler way to compute the horizon distance: let Γ be a circle of center O and radius r and A any point. Then, for any line Δ through A crossing Γ at the two points M and M&#039;, we have AM.AM&#039; = OA²-r²; this number is called the power of A relatively to Γ, and note that it does not depend on the line Δ.

In the present case, A = you, Γ = Earth, and you can compute the power by using two different lines Δ, namely the tangent line and the vertical line; this directly yields

(distance to horizon)² = (altitude).(diameter of Earth + altitude)

or, if you are in a plane or lower (and thus altitude is negligible compared to the diameter of the Earth),

(distance to horizon) = √(altitude.diameter of Earth)

Thus, at low altitudes, when going four times higher, you see twice further.

Of course, this is assuming that the Earth is a perfect sphere. When you are on the beach, you are probably actually a bit above sea level (on a jetty) and looking at an object that itself is above sea level (island, ship mast). To see that object, there must be some horizon that both you and the target are able to see, and thus you need to add the horizon distances for you and the target. For example, one pirate ship could see (from the crow&#039;s nest, 30m above sea level) up to 20 km away, thus two such ships would see each other from 40 km apart.

And as far as window seats go, my favourite one was flying over (and actually, around) the western Himalaya range, including the conflictual zones of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Man, those mountains in the background are *high*.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a simpler way to compute the horizon distance: let Γ be a circle of center O and radius r and A any point. Then, for any line Δ through A crossing Γ at the two points M and M&#8217;, we have AM.AM&#8217; = OA²-r²; this number is called the power of A relatively to Γ, and note that it does not depend on the line Δ.</p>
<p>In the present case, A = you, Γ = Earth, and you can compute the power by using two different lines Δ, namely the tangent line and the vertical line; this directly yields</p>
<p>(distance to horizon)² = (altitude).(diameter of Earth + altitude)</p>
<p>or, if you are in a plane or lower (and thus altitude is negligible compared to the diameter of the Earth),</p>
<p>(distance to horizon) = √(altitude.diameter of Earth)</p>
<p>Thus, at low altitudes, when going four times higher, you see twice further.</p>
<p>Of course, this is assuming that the Earth is a perfect sphere. When you are on the beach, you are probably actually a bit above sea level (on a jetty) and looking at an object that itself is above sea level (island, ship mast). To see that object, there must be some horizon that both you and the target are able to see, and thus you need to add the horizon distances for you and the target. For example, one pirate ship could see (from the crow&#8217;s nest, 30m above sea level) up to 20 km away, thus two such ships would see each other from 40 km apart.</p>
<p>And as far as window seats go, my favourite one was flying over (and actually, around) the western Himalaya range, including the conflictual zones of Pakistan and Afghanistan. Man, those mountains in the background are *high*.</p>
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		<title>By: alan</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 01:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are not seeing the total height of the island. The shore level of the island is over the horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not seeing the total height of the island. The shore level of the island is over the horizon.</p>
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		<title>By: Mickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was standing on the shoreline in Huntington Beach, Ca and looking out over the ocean at Catalina Island at least 20 miles away. I think I saw pretty close to the bottom of the island. How&#039;s that possible if I should not be able to see the horizon past 5 or 6 miles?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was standing on the shoreline in Huntington Beach, Ca and looking out over the ocean at Catalina Island at least 20 miles away. I think I saw pretty close to the bottom of the island. How&#8217;s that possible if I should not be able to see the horizon past 5 or 6 miles?</p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I was asking a simple question! Wow, I didn&#039;t realize it was so complicated to figure out.No wonder everyone I asked didn&#039;t have a clue.Thanks for the info. Although it was way more than I needed. And way more than I could understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was asking a simple question! Wow, I didn&#8217;t realize it was so complicated to figure out.No wonder everyone I asked didn&#8217;t have a clue.Thanks for the info. Although it was way more than I needed. And way more than I could understand.</p>
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		<title>By: sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:42:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I was asking a simple question! Wow, I didn&#039;t know it was that complicated. No wonder everyone I asked couldn&#039;t come up with the answer.Thanks for all the info.Although it was way more than I needed or could understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was asking a simple question! Wow, I didn&#8217;t know it was that complicated. No wonder everyone I asked couldn&#8217;t come up with the answer.Thanks for all the info.Although it was way more than I needed or could understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always enjoyed this concept, even though I do not have a scientific mind whatsoever, I do appreciate the formula above...very interesting.  One example of this topic, outside of watching the horizon line from inside an airplane, was standing on top of Pikes Peak and seeing downtown Denver to the north and Raton Pass to the south, well over a 200 mile spread.  Thanks again for the info...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always enjoyed this concept, even though I do not have a scientific mind whatsoever, I do appreciate the formula above&#8230;very interesting.  One example of this topic, outside of watching the horizon line from inside an airplane, was standing on top of Pikes Peak and seeing downtown Denver to the north and Raton Pass to the south, well over a 200 mile spread.  Thanks again for the info&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the maths, go to the beach and have a look. I can stand on the beach at Fremantle in Western Australia and clearly see Rottnest Island that I know is 12 miles away. I can see the beaches and the boats in the bay with my binoculars. When ships sail past Rottnest, heading towards India, I can see them sailing away for over 1/2 hour. I suggest the horizon, while standing at  sea level and from eye height(approx 5 ft) in more like 25 miles, not 3 miles like all the scientist appear to have calculated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the maths, go to the beach and have a look. I can stand on the beach at Fremantle in Western Australia and clearly see Rottnest Island that I know is 12 miles away. I can see the beaches and the boats in the bay with my binoculars. When ships sail past Rottnest, heading towards India, I can see them sailing away for over 1/2 hour. I suggest the horizon, while standing at  sea level and from eye height(approx 5 ft) in more like 25 miles, not 3 miles like all the scientist appear to have calculated.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurie Dhue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laurie Dhue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if I am in a warship and my radar dish is 65 feet above the water, then my detection range is less than ten miles if the target is a submarine mast, Hmm Interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if I am in a warship and my radar dish is 65 feet above the water, then my detection range is less than ten miles if the target is a submarine mast, Hmm Interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: How far away is the horizon? &#124; Halil YeTGiN's BloG</title>
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		<dc:creator>How far away is the horizon? &#124; Halil YeTGiN's BloG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you’re not exactly the same height as me you can figure out how far away the horizon is using a series of calculations. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: I love Geometry &#171; A Man With A Ph.D.</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/15/how-far-away-is-the-horizon/comment-page-2/#comment-173519</link>
		<dc:creator>I love Geometry &#171; A Man With A Ph.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 20:04:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Photoshop is more a tool for manipulating images, not creating them. But the need to create a circle appeared because of an earlier blog entry, one which wanted to determine the distance to the horizon. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Photoshop is more a tool for manipulating images, not creating them. But the need to create a circle appeared because of an earlier blog entry, one which wanted to determine the distance to the horizon. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How to draw a circle in Photoshop &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/15/how-far-away-is-the-horizon/comment-page-2/#comment-173235</link>
		<dc:creator>How to draw a circle in Photoshop &#124; Bad Astronomy &#124; Discover Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 20:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] confusing, weird, or just plain incorrect methods. However, I recently wanted to draw a circle for my post on the distance to the horizon, and decided to ask an expert: The Little Astronomer, who showed me how to do it in about 20 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] confusing, weird, or just plain incorrect methods. However, I recently wanted to draw a circle for my post on the distance to the horizon, and decided to ask an expert: The Little Astronomer, who showed me how to do it in about 20 [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Benoît</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benoît</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 08:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always wondered if the horizon is the result of the curvature of the earth or the limitations of our eyes.

Isn&#039;t perspective causing things to shrink the further they are away. Imagine a long straight lane with lamp posts next to it, each  of the same height. You will see that each lamp posts gets smaller than the one in front of it. This causes our feeling of perspective.  Now, could the horizon simply be the location where these lampposts become so small, we can&#039;t see them anymore?

Just a question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always wondered if the horizon is the result of the curvature of the earth or the limitations of our eyes.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t perspective causing things to shrink the further they are away. Imagine a long straight lane with lamp posts next to it, each  of the same height. You will see that each lamp posts gets smaller than the one in front of it. This causes our feeling of perspective.  Now, could the horizon simply be the location where these lampposts become so small, we can&#8217;t see them anymore?</p>
<p>Just a question!</p>
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		<title>By: The all-new geography quiz - Page 82 - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>The all-new geography quiz - Page 82 - Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 20:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is an attempt.   Theoretically, the distance to the horizon of a sphere with 8371 km radius from 8.840 km above the ground is 272 km.  To the East and West, we [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TheOtherPhil</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/15/how-far-away-is-the-horizon/comment-page-2/#comment-149877</link>
		<dc:creator>TheOtherPhil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 22:01:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil, I always enjoy your posts and this one&#039;s no different, but I&#039;ve got to get on your case for the &quot;Amurcan&quot; crap.  I spend a lot of time online and in any discussion this kind of thing pops up.  I don&#039;t think you&#039;re using it in an intentionally insulting way here but it is anyway.  &quot;You were born in a particular spot on the globe, therefore you&#039;re too dumb to speak correctly / figure out a chart / etc...&quot; 
I know it&#039;s a cliche and it shouldn&#039;t bother me, but as I see it, you should be  above that kind of thing.
Everyone already hit all of the math permutations, so I had to post something different.

Alright everyone - Flame on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil, I always enjoy your posts and this one&#8217;s no different, but I&#8217;ve got to get on your case for the &#8220;Amurcan&#8221; crap.  I spend a lot of time online and in any discussion this kind of thing pops up.  I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re using it in an intentionally insulting way here but it is anyway.  &#8220;You were born in a particular spot on the globe, therefore you&#8217;re too dumb to speak correctly / figure out a chart / etc&#8230;&#8221;<br />
I know it&#8217;s a cliche and it shouldn&#8217;t bother me, but as I see it, you should be  above that kind of thing.<br />
Everyone already hit all of the math permutations, so I had to post something different.</p>
<p>Alright everyone &#8211; Flame on!</p>
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		<title>By: SoSaysSunny</title>
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		<dc:creator>SoSaysSunny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 08:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One year I thought I was going to have to miss the Perseid Meteor Shower because I was going out of town.  I turned out that my window seat from Atlanta to Boston happened to be the front row seat for viewing it!

I was above the haze, clouds, and light pollution -- and I had nothing better to do.  I pulled the navy Delta Airlines blanket over my head and peered out the window.  There was a &#039;boy scout&#039; looking little boy in the row in front of me who asked what I was doing.  He also got a blanket and we &quot;ooh&quot;-ed and &quot;ahh&quot;-ed the whole way.

Best meteor shower, ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One year I thought I was going to have to miss the Perseid Meteor Shower because I was going out of town.  I turned out that my window seat from Atlanta to Boston happened to be the front row seat for viewing it!</p>
<p>I was above the haze, clouds, and light pollution &#8212; and I had nothing better to do.  I pulled the navy Delta Airlines blanket over my head and peered out the window.  There was a &#8216;boy scout&#8217; looking little boy in the row in front of me who asked what I was doing.  He also got a blanket and we &#8220;ooh&#8221;-ed and &#8220;ahh&#8221;-ed the whole way.</p>
<p>Best meteor shower, ever!</p>
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		<title>By: IVAN3MAN</title>
		<link>http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/01/15/how-far-away-is-the-horizon/comment-page-2/#comment-149332</link>
		<dc:creator>IVAN3MAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It has been nearly four days&#039; now since Dr. Phil Plait posted this article, and I&#039;m surprised to find that Tom Marking still hasn&#039;t showed up on this thread with his usual long list of equations and data... yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been nearly four days&#8217; now since Dr. Phil Plait posted this article, and I&#8217;m surprised to find that Tom Marking still hasn&#8217;t showed up on this thread with his usual long list of equations and data&#8230; yet!</p>
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